Annapolis - Powerboat on Sailboat Crime

[trimfast 71]

Well this happened today in Annapolis apparently.

[Christian 72]

Doesn't look to be consensual....................

[BlondeWithFreeBoat 61]

Hey, you scratched my anchor!

[nuttin honey 3]

I said starboard, u dipwad!!  I do hope no one was injured. 

[suider 80]

Jesus. The mind boggles. 

[mojorizing 0]

Fish On !

 

Guy on powerboat "  Fish finder says we got a big one right below us....."

[Bump-n-Grind 729]

fortunately no injuries reported. but that had to be by inches.

 

[SailRacer 95]

I call it threat with bodily harm or even attempted murder. If he spilled any oil, hit him with OPA 90’. 

Sail Safe!

[ropetrick 76]

The guys on the fishin' machine have life jackets on, the sailor is on the cell phone to his lawyer.

Glad that there were no serious injuries.

Fucking fisheads.  I hope the charter captain loses his license.

[ROADKILL666 323]

WHAT A FUCKING DICK.

[Marcjsmith 459]

here is another pic.  Looks like the J may have been on Port tack when it was hit based on the way the jib is sheeted.  I could be wrong.  J is still upright and afloat with mast still attached   good construction or just a one in a million hit?

[Bus Driver 4,199]

Oh, this will just add to the mystique of the 105.

[Bus Driver 4,199]

Just now, Marcjsmith said:

here is another pic.  Looks like the J may have been on Port tack when it was hit based on the way the jib is sheeted.  I could be wrong.  J is still upright and afloat with mast still attached   good construction or just a one in a million hit?

Pardon me.  But, why does it matter on which tack a sailboat is sailing when it gets hits by a powerboat?

[ROADKILL666 323]

JUST SHOWS THAT ANY ASSHAT CAN GET A CAPTIAN'S LICENCE A BIG FUCK YOU TO HIM

[Topmast 49]

I like how everyone is so nonchalant about it, just standing around..

[Tax Man 165]

Not quite mast abeam.

[Q Ball 0]

What charter boat company is that?

 

[Marcjsmith 459]

13 minutes ago, Bus Driver said:

Pardon me.  But, why does it matter on which tack a sailboat is sailing when it gets hits by a powerboat?

It doesn't just wanted to post another pic.  but it could have been a complete surprise coming from the leeward side. and not like the J had any were to go to avoid

FB video

 

[eli 1]

https://wjla.com/news/local/boat-crash-chesapeake-bay-annapolis

[Just A Skosh 72]

Just now, eli said:

https://wjla.com/news/local/boat-crash-chesapeake-bay-annapolis

That'll buff out

[ROADKILL666 323]

SAD TO SEE THE DEATH OF A GOOD SAILBOAT.

[herbie verstinx 43]

I hope the power boater isn't a deputy sheriff!

[RKoch 1,004]

20 minutes ago, Marcjsmith said:

here is another pic.  Looks like the J may have been on Port tack when it was hit based on the way the jib is sheeted.  I could be wrong.  J is still upright and afloat with mast still attached   good construction or just a one in a million hit?

I'm sure there's extensive damage. Glad no one was hurt.

[Bash24 8]

Glad no one was hurt.  

Am I the only one seeing the humor in the fact that the powerboat propped up so nicely on top of a J105 named, "Levitation?"

 

[ROADKILL666 323]

I WONDER IF THE CHARTER BOAT CAPTAIN WAS DRUNK?

[Moonduster 312]

If the yacht was motor sailing, the fishing boat had right-of-way, no?

 

[Left Shift 2,752]

Had that exact thing happen to me and a friend on his Ensign on Long Island Sound years ago.  We were heading to a race off of Manhasset on a Saturday.  Guy on his 30'+ sport fisherman was on autopilot cleaning his fish when he came through our boom at probably 10 knots.  Rig stayed up and we got towed in bruised and battered.  Not sunk, but the boat was totalled. 

We were on also port.  Didn't seem to matter to the cops or the insurance company.

He offered us a fish.  To make it all better.  

[Barley 0]

8 minutes ago, Left Shift said:

Had that exact thing happen to me and a friend on his Ensign on Long Island Sound years ago.  We were heading to a race off of Manhasset on a Saturday.  Guy on his 30'+ sport fisherman was on autopilot cleaning his fish when he came through our boom at probably 10 knots.  Rig stayed up and we got towed in bruised and battered.  Not sunk, but the boat was totalled. 

We were on also port.  Didn't seem to matter to the cops or the insurance company.

He offered us a fish.  To make it all better.  

Sounds reasonable

[Bus Driver 4,199]

19 minutes ago, Moonduster said:

If the yacht was motor sailing, the fishing boat had right-of-way, no?

Has anyone reported the sailboat was motor-sailing?

Besides, wouldn't ROW be granted to a powerboat trolling?  This one had to be hauling ass to get that far aboard.

[Bsquared 24]

I don't think the definition of "fishing" in the rules includes a recreational boat (or even a charter boat) pulling trolling lines; you have to be pulling substantial gear that restricts your ability to maneuver.  Besides, that guy wasn't trolling at the speed needed to ride over the top.  Damn lucky no one got squashed.

[NaptimeAgain 261]

If the sailboat was heeling I suppose a relatively slow moving powerboat could climb up the beam. 

[Schnappi 60]

1 hour ago, trimfast said:

Well this happened today in Annapolis apparently.

Letterbox takedown 

[NaptimeAgain 261]

A couple threads in a powerboat forum The Hull Truth in the regional section. Apparently near Thomas Point. 

[NaptimeAgain 261]

Nice to know it floats even with another boat on top. 

[TJSoCal 134]

1 minute ago, Bsquared said:

I don't think the definition of "fishing" in the rules includes a recreational boat (or even a charter boat) pulling trolling lines; you have to be pulling substantial gear that restricts your ability to maneuver.  Besides, that guy wasn't trolling at the speed needed to ride over the top.  Damn lucky no one got squashed.

COLREGS 3(d): "The term “vessel engaged in fishing” means any vessel fishing with nets, lines, trawls or other fishing apparatus which restrict manoeuvrability, but does not include a vessel fishing with trolling lines or other fishing apparatus which do not restrict manoeuvrability."

28 minutes ago, Moonduster said:

If the yacht was motor sailing, the fishing boat had right-of-way, no?

No. COLREGS don't give anyone "right of way."

If the J105 was motorsailing (doubtful that she was if the jib was up, I think) then she would have been "give-way" vessel obligated to maneuver to avoid collision. Powerboat would have been "stand-on" vessel, obligated to maintain course and speed unless/until it became apparent that the give-way vessel was not taking sufficient action to avoid collision.

[Bump-n-Grind 729]

boat is at Mullers if anyone wants to go touch it LOL

 

[Bump-n-Grind 729]

apparently the fishing boat was doing about 25 kts when they hit.. going home from fishing..

 

this from someone aboard the 105 .... the 105 is a jport club owned boat and was out daysailing.. guess their day got cut a bit short.

 

[BeerDidClam 23]

25 minutes ago, Schnappi said:

Letterbox takedown 

And we have a winner!

[Stiffler's Mom 8]

Not the 1st time. We got leveled at the J/80 worlds in Santander by the media boat. 

[clubbabyseals 2]

No one's reported that this guy prevented a hit and run.

[J Peterman 0]

Hey thats my Buddy Snells. 

[Bump-n-Grind 729]

1 hour ago, Moonduster said:

If the yacht was motor sailing, the fishing boat had right-of-way, no?

 

I rarely see even J105s motor sailing with their jib up. not saying it doesn't happen, but cmon dude

 

[Rasputin22 2,662]

Must be the tender to DONNYBROOK.

[CruiserJim 109]

2 hours ago, herbie verstinx said:

I hope the power boater isn't a deputy sheriff!

Agreed, and hope the guy at the helm of the J wasn't holding a beer. 

[pulpit 192]

3 hours ago, trimfast said:

Well this happened today in Annapolis apparently.

See, I told you to put the fenders away when we left the dock.

 

Other wise people think they can raft up any time.

[Kevlar Edge 3]

1 hour ago, Schnappi said:

Letterbox takedown 

Winner!! 

[RKoch 1,004]

2 hours ago, ROADKILL666 said:

I WONDER IF THE CHARTER BOAT CAPTAIN WAS DRUNK?

More likely distracted by electronic devices, or taking selfies.

[NaptimeAgain 261]

Many charter boats have a mate who takes care of fish cleaning and general tasks. Don't know the case here. 

[Wess 2,439]

2 hours ago, BeerDidClam said:

And we have a winner!

OK, my Laser can't do that!  Hats off to whoever built that J105.  Wow!!

[RKoch 1,004]

http://www.capitalgazette.com/news/annapolis/ac-cn-boat-collision-20180817-story.html

[Sailabout 76]

Clearly the Yacht tacked and didnt give the powerboat room and time, lol

[Flick 6]

Isn't there something about "a fishing vessel engaged in fishing" being the stand-on vessel?  (Of course, in this case, it's the vessel that's "standing on" the sailboat . . . )

(Ooops!  Not the first to suggest this.  Sorry!)

 

 

[Swanno 142]

How long until the boat shows up on a new "I got a cheap boat" thread 

Glad there were no injuries. 

[RKoch 1,004]

16 minutes ago, Flick said:

Isn't there something about "a fishing vessel engaged in fishing" being the stand-on vessel?  (Of course, in this case, it's the vessel that's "standing on" the sailboat . . . )

(Ooops!  Not the first to suggest this.  Sorry!)

 

 

1) They were reportedly heading back from fishing, not engaging in fishing. Speed was estimated 25 knots.

2) Rules of the road exclude trolling fishing lines from "fishing vessels".  Only if they're dragging nets or trawls, or handling a longline...which limits their ability to maneuver.

[Superkilt 1]

There are easier ways of making an open-footed main.   

[jgulli4d 1]

If that had happened on Clear Lake in California, the sailboat driver would be in jail.

[Philen 0]

6 hours ago, trimfast said:

Well this happened today in Annapolis apparently.

What does it rate ?

[-Dino 11]

It's just good no one was hurt or killed - sad day for that nice Jboat.

[unShirley 114]

10 minutes ago, Philen said:

What does it rate ?

would that be an ORCA multihull rating?

[monsoon 328]

6 hours ago, trimfast said:

Well this happened today in Annapolis apparently.

Thats a really ugly catamaran.

[weightless 491]

3 minutes ago, monsoon said:

Thats a really ugly catamaran.

Pacific proa.

[Laurent 1,705]

16 minutes ago, weightless said:

Pacific proa.

Didn't find that approach very pacific...

[Keith 893]

Fish on!!!!

[quecatsofai 4]

[quecatsofai 4]

[Hitchhiker 869]

All that Horsepower and the 105 still won't plane........

[captnjoe 41]

The J105 owner had thought about installing a bow thruster,  but didn't want to put a hole in the hull, so tried this instead.

[Christian 72]

7 hours ago, Marcjsmith said:

here is another pic.  Looks like the J may have been on Port tack when it was hit based on the way the jib is sheeted.  I could be wrong.  J is still upright and afloat with mast still attached   good construction or just a one in a million hit?

And this matters why?

[Grande Mastere Dreade 2,163]

didn;t take long

 

[Priscilla 2,321]

Pretty obvious the yacht drifted up on the launch.

 

[NaptimeAgain 261]

The "sailboat" is a new type of slow attack sub developed at the USNA a couple miles up the bay, and surfaced under the fishing boat. That's a periscope, not a mast. Subs have sails too.

[ALGEDI 2]

Glad I wasn't sitting on the rail

[Sgt Hulka 0]

Believe me, someone on that powerboat thought that slower speed yields right-of-way.

[Marcjsmith 459]

7 hours ago, Christian said:

And this matters why?

Sheesh tough crowd.   I make a factual comment about a picture and gets roasted twice over it.   Well on port tack the starboard rail would have lower making it easier for the fishing boat to launch it self up and onto the j.  Port tack.  The skipper would have been likely on the windward rail with presumably much of the crew. So it’s possible they may not have seen the power boat  barreling down on them.  Still no excuse for the power boat 

[random 160]

16 hours ago, trimfast said:

Well this happened today in Annapolis apparently.

Rich White Cunt runs into Rich White Cunt.  Angels are crying.

[SCANAS 523]

No day shapes = not fishing. 

[Sail4beer 2,089]

16 hours ago, ROADKILL666 said:

JUST SHOWS THAT ANY ASSHAT CAN GET A CAPTIAN'S LICENCE A BIG FUCK YOU TO HIM

And it just shows that the same Asshat can get his Captain’s Liscence taken away for doing what he does best!

 

[Sail4beer 2,089]

1 hour ago, random said:

Rich White Cunt runs into Rich White Cunt.  Angels are LAUGHING.

FIFY 

[McGyver 38]

Motorboat owner: Your Honor, that sailboat was just going TOO SLOW.

Judge: What sailboat was it?

Motorboat owner: A J-105, your Honor.

Judge: I find for the motorboat.  Sailboat to pay all damages.

[capt.carlos 0]

"What damage, that little scratch'll  buff right out"

It would be remarkable if no one got hurt in this cunning stunt.

And they all look sooo casual. Surreal.

[McGyver 38]

Motorboat owner: Your Honor, that sailboat was just going TOO SLOW.

Judge: What sailboat was it?

Motorboat owner: A J-105, your Honor,

Judge: I find for the motorboat.  Sailboat to pay for all damages.

[Maroon 0]

Did anybody catch the article in the paper about

"The powerboat slid over the sailboat, then came to rest with the cabin mounted across the middle of the deck, leaving a sizable dent." 

DENT 

[Captain 373 0]

Well,,,when you are being chased by a Meg,,,,you have the right of way!!!!!!!!

[IStream 2,315]

2 hours ago, McGyver said:

Motorboat owner: Your Honor, that sailboat was just going TOO SLOW.

Judge: What sailboat was it?

Motorboat owner: A J-105, your Honor,

Judge: I find for the motorboat.  Sailboat to pay for all damages.

It was funnier the first time.

[jerseyguy 1,210]

 

58 minutes ago, IStream said:

It was funnier the first time.

And it wasn't that funny then. And no, I do not own or sail on a 105.

[Ajax 2,034]

I look at these photos and I've read the news articles (which are short on detail.)

I'm trying very hard to play devil's advocate and see if there's a way that this could somehow be the sailboat's fault and I just can't find a way. The only way that powerboat could climb up onto the J/105 is with speed and momentum. 

The J/105 is also obligated to maneuver to avoid a collision no matter who is the stand-on vessel but was that even possible in the light breeze and given the fishing boat's high rate of speed?  It doesn't seem likely.

[lyvet 4]

I'm sorry:- I'm pleased that nobody was hurt but I've seen horrible results of similar collisions, in one instance involving a 14 year old girl losing her arm.

This is not a joking topic.

[RKoch 1,004]

3 hours ago, Ajax said:

I look at these photos and I've read the news articles (which are short on detail.)

I'm trying very hard to play devil's advocate and see if there's a way that this could somehow be the sailboat's fault and I just can't find a way. The only way that powerboat could climb up onto the J/105 is with speed and momentum. 

The J/105 is also obligated to maneuver to avoid a collision no matter who is the stand-on vessel but was that even possible in the light breeze and given the fishing boat's high rate of speed?  It doesn't seem likely.

A story I read (I think I linked to it up thread) the sailboat operator said they tried to alert the powerboat and attempted to avoid when it was apparent the powerboat was not going to give way. Sailboat = 6 knots, powerboat 25 knots. That's why the sailboat is the 'stand on' vessel. I suspect the powerboat driver was fucking with the chart plotter or texting, and no-one aboard was watching where they were going.

[Rasputin22 2,662]

Remember this one? Something about the skipper in his wheelchair driving and couldn't see over the bow! 

 

[Dilligaf0220 108]

On 8/17/2018 at 3:42 PM, eli said:

https://wjla.com/news/local/boat-crash-chesapeake-bay-annapolis

Rule #1 of any penetrating trauma, do NOT remove the implement until safely in a controlled environment!

2 hours ago, lyvet said:

This is not a joking topic.

Too late.

 

[Dilligaf0220 108]

9 minutes ago, Rasputin22 said:

Remember this one? Something about the skipper in his wheelchair driving and couldn't see over the bow! 

 

In a wheelchair, on his phone.

Truly qu'est ce que fuck.

[Rasputin22 2,662]

8 minutes ago, Dilligaf0220 said:

In a wheelchair, on his phone.

Truly qu'est ce que fuck.

Yeah, he should have had a defibrillator up his ass too!

   I am shocked (bad pun) that there is actually such a thing that showed up on a Google search! Who knew? It that thing couldn't keep one alert at the helm, nothing could.