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9 hours ago, SloopJonB said:

I've never seen cradles put on blocks like that.

Why would anyone do it?

As mentioned above, it allows the hydraulic trailer to 'escape' after placing the boat. Using hydraulic trailers lets the marina operator store the boats much closer together than would be possible when placing the boats with the Travelift. More importantly, blocking allows leveling the cradle on uneven ground and permits adjusting the boat's 'bow up' or 'bow down' trim so the cockpit drains properly. Some places 'skid' the cradles around the yard with a tractor; this is the only way to eliminate the blocks that I am aware of.

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9 hours ago, TwoLegged said:

I saw some comment above that it was so some lift machine could get under the cradles.

But whatever the reason, bad bad idea. The insurers will not be pleased when they see that arrangement

Insurers around here would be more concerned if the cradles were not blocked to permit proper draining of decks and cockpits, resulting in freezing and water damage to the boat... leveling the cradle on blocks, or sitting the keel on blocks if using boat stands, is standard operating procedure in my part of the world.

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18 hours ago, SloopJonB said:

:o

Sounds like a warranty claim to me.

That must have been one rough ride, even with 30 odd tons under you.

Very rough, very slow, 35~45 over the deck for most of the trip, largest waves were in the 20 foot range.  The worst were the waves with no back.

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5 hours ago, Jim in Halifax said:

Insurers around here would be more concerned if the cradles were not blocked to permit proper draining of decks and cockpits, resulting in freezing and water damage to the boat... leveling the cradle on blocks, or sitting the keel on blocks if using boat stands, is standard operating procedure in my part of the world.

Same done around here. Our marina operator has started welding 8” sections of C beam on the cradle corners to eliminate need to block with timber. Still has to use 2x8 sometimes to shim for forward/aft or side to side for drainage, depending on the ground. 
 

In addition to having a few boats blown over last week, there was a boat fire in one of the storage compounds early morning yesterday that destroyed 2 boats and damaged 3. Under investigation by the fire marshal. 2020 just keeps on giving. 

 


 

 

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6 hours ago, Jim in Halifax said:

As mentioned above, it allows the hydraulic trailer to 'escape' after placing the boat. Using hydraulic trailers lets the marina operator store the boats much closer together than would be possible when placing the boats with the Travelift. More importantly, blocking allows leveling the cradle on uneven ground and permits adjusting the boat's 'bow up' or 'bow down' trim so the cockpit drains properly. Some places 'skid' the cradles around the yard with a tractor; this is the only way to eliminate the blocks that I am aware of.

In the yard I frequent I -Beam "feet" on the corners of the cradle allow the big forklift to get under the cradles. They can fork boats up to about 10,000 Lbs.

Screw jacks on each strut of the cradle take care of levelling. The only wood used is heavy blocking under the keels.

A much better system IMO.

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For those that don't understand the concept, our cradle just scrapes into the thing, we are as wide as it can handle. The red frame thing looks like a giant tuning fork from above and is back up onto the boat cradle, then locked and lifted.

You can see our cradle has mandatory welded on feet to elevate the cradle for the lifting rig. on the lifting cart you can see the grey flip in feet things hanging down at the bottom that will swing under our cradle, get locked in to lift everything.

How you ask does it lift it? Well the wheels get hydraulically pushed down relative to the red frame. so the frame and the boat go up and then everything can be moved. In our case it all gets towed behind a tractor trailer, in the other yard it just gets moved by a regular tractor.

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Our last trip of the season into downtown Baltimore.. pic from the boat, not of the boat (not sailing...)

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On November 21, 2020 at 6:29 AM, Bryanjb said:

Very rough, very slow, 35~45 over the deck for most of the trip, largest waves were in the 20 foot range.  The worst were the waves with no back.

Would have been way not fun on a lot of other boats. You're big, with a lot of lead, on a boat that is as good upwind as any. If you had a rough time, it was rough.

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13 hours ago, bgytr said:

Our last trip of the season into downtown Baltimore.. pic from the boat, not of the boat (not sailing...)

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These days, I wouldn't get any closer to Baltimore than that.

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5 hours ago, Ajax said:

 

These days, I wouldn't get any closer to Baltimore than that.

O cmon now...  we had a great time over the weekend, got some food at a couple federal hill locales, walked along the waterfront.. Bmore is a great city, let's hope the new leadership makes headway cleaning things up.

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My son the cop and his GF were in B'More a year ago. They booked with a major hotel chain but when they got there they found the area was so sketchy that they changed hotels the next day.

They liked some areas of the city but won't be back.

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14 hours ago, SloopJonB said:

My son the cop and his GF were in B'More a year ago. They booked with a major hotel chain but when they got there they found the area was so sketchy that they changed hotels the next day.

They liked some areas of the city but won't be back.

Typical of any city, no?  Some good some not so good spots.

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A major chain hotel in a "not-so-good" spot?

I've never seen that.

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23 minutes ago, SloopJonB said:

A major chain hotel in a "not-so-good" spot?

I've never seen that.

I'm guessing you haven't traveled the I-95 corridor between Richmond and central Connecticut.

I've stayed in several that featured screaming drunken brawls in the wee hours, parking lot shootings, and business girls handing out condoms in the lobby.

Part of the fun and excitement of travel... they say it's educational....

- DSK

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2 hours ago, SloopJonB said:

A major chain hotel in a "not-so-good" spot?

I've never seen that.

maybe it wasn't not-so-good when they first established? or was a new/recent build?

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On 11/24/2020 at 9:29 AM, Ajax said:

These days, I wouldn't get any closer to Baltimore than that.

I recently spent a month on a work assignment in Baltimore.  There is a thread about it in GA.  

The waterfront area of Baltimore (shown above) is clean, safe, tourist-friendly and a nice place to hang out (although most things are shut down due to COVID).   There certainly are areas in Baltimore where I felt uncomfortable.  I think that is true of most major cities.  

I played tourist in the surrounding area by visiting small towns, historic sites and places that tourists generally go.  I found the whole area very pleasant and the people generally kind and friendly.   I expect my employer will send me back there in January.  I am not dreading returning by any means.  

So, let's see more pictures of boats not sailing.  My boat is covered in snow right now so not much to see.....

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I like visiting Baltimore and I will continue to do so, but I have noticed that there doesn't seem to be a real obvious, to outsiders at least, delineation between "good" and "bad" parts of town. This seems to be a bit easier to sort out in some other big cities I've been to. 

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1 hour ago, Slick470 said:

I like visiting Baltimore and I will continue to do so, but I have noticed that there doesn't seem to be a real obvious, to outsiders at least, delineation between "good" and "bad" parts of town. This seems to be a bit easier to sort out in some other big cities I've been to. 

I was walking along the street in search of coffee and up ahead (in front of a fast-food place) some crackhead was on the street accosting passers-by and yelling "BUY ME SOMETHING TO EAT.  I AM STARVING".  I took that as an indication I was heading towards the wrong part of town and turned around.....  

But, yeah, Baltimore is the 'city of neighborhoods'.  For an outsider, its not clear which are the good ones and which are not.  

 

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51 minutes ago, Bugsy said:

I was walking along the street in search of coffee and up ahead (in front of a fast-food place) some crackhead was on the street accosting passers-by and yelling "BUY ME SOMETHING TO EAT.  I AM STARVING".  I took that as an indication I was heading towards the wrong part of town and turned around.....  

But, yeah, Baltimore is the 'city of neighborhoods'.  For an outsider, its not clear which are the good ones and which are not.  

Agree, I've had times when walking or driving around and suddenly realizing I'm in an iffy part of town, but then also realizing if I go another block I'll be past it.  

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Before we owned her but almost exactly the way she looked bringing her back from Titusville, less some air in the dink.

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12 hours ago, Jules said:

Before we owned her but almost exactly the way she looked bringing her back from Titusville, less some air in the dink.

Niagara 35?

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2 hours ago, Jim in Halifax said:

Niagara 35?

You got the designer right. 

It's an Aloha 32.

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1 hour ago, Jules said:

You got the designer right. 

It's an Aloha 32.

Nice boat. Friends had one and loved it. Basically the little brother of the Niagara 35.

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2 hours ago, Jules said:

You got the designer right. 

It's an Aloha 32.

You live aboard?

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1 hour ago, Jim in Halifax said:

Nice boat. Friends had one and loved it. Basically the little brother of the Niagara 35.

I've been surprised at the quality of the build.  They even lined the closets with teak. 

Before our boat search, I had never heard of Aloha.  I knew of Mark Ellis though. 

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It's that time of the year again.  Parade on dec 12th. 

Doing this gives the wife a thrill, and gets me out of buying a present (other than useful on the boat presents).

20 strings, (14 led and 6 in candescent). Pulls 230 watts on the inverter. 

 

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5 hours ago, Jules said:

I've been surprised at the quality of the build.  They even lined the closets with teak. 

Before our boat search, I had never heard of Aloha.  I knew of Mark Ellis though. 

aloha built a 27/28 foot perry design too.  a no non-sense, good quality, low volume builder i guess.

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Installed my new Furuno DRS4W radar yesterday.  Pulling the old wire out from my ancient Raytheon raster screen radar was...painful.  Pretty sure they heard me yelling in the marina office.  The PO, God love him, ran that fucking wire everywhere.  

Not sure how this wireless iPad only radar will work out but I'm going to see.  Replaced my old weather-beaten 6' pole with a Seaview 8' pole.  Have to say that the Seaview pole I bought from them is beautiful.  

I just ordered the rail standoff kit as well.  Thought I could get away from it but that extra two feet of pole just too much I think to not have something else holding it in place.  Going to attach it to the solar panel bars on top of the bimini.  That is the plan anyway.

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7 hours ago, Beer fueled Mayhem said:

Installed my new Furuno DRS4W radar yesterday.  Pulling the old wire out from my ancient Raytheon raster screen radar was...painful.  Pretty sure they heard me yelling in the marina office.  The PO, God love him, ran that fucking wire everywhere.  

Not sure how this wireless iPad only radar will work out but I'm going to see.  Replaced my old weather-beaten 6' pole with a Seaview 8' pole.  Have to say that the Seaview pole I bought from them is beautiful.  

I just ordered the rail standoff kit as well.  Thought I could get away from it but that extra two feet of pole just too much I think to not have something else holding it in place.  Going to attach it to the solar panel bars on top of the bimini.  That is the plan anyway.

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You're all set for the Med with your passerelle 

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7 hours ago, Beer fueled Mayhem said:

Installed my new Furuno DRS4W radar yesterday.  Pulling the old wire out from my ancient Raytheon raster screen radar was...painful.  Pretty sure they heard me yelling in the marina office.  The PO, God love him, ran that fucking wire everywhere.  

Not sure how this wireless iPad only radar will work out but I'm going to see.  Replaced my old weather-beaten 6' pole with a Seaview 8' pole.  Have to say that the Seaview pole I bought from them is beautiful.  

I just ordered the rail standoff kit as well.  Thought I could get away from it but that extra two feet of pole just too much I think to not have something else holding it in place.  Going to attach it to the solar panel bars on top of the bimini.  That is the plan anyway.

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Hard to tell from the photo but if that's your radar reflector and it's on the same plane as the dome, I'd suggest moving it out of the line of fire. 

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2 hours ago, IStream said:

Hard to tell from the photo but if that's your radar reflector and it's on the same plane as the dome, I'd suggest moving it out of the line of fire. 

Or lose it entirely and put a good reflector somewhere up the rig.

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4 minutes ago, Ishmael said:

Or lose it entirely and put a good reflector somewhere up the rig.

I read a bunch of tests and reviews and apparently the best performing reflector is still the ordinary Davis, round tetrahedron thing.

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33 minutes ago, Whinging Pom said:

Very interesting but the article is 15 years old and one of the best products (tri lens) seems to be discontinued. Heck, even the Plastimo diamond which was a highly recommended "budget" reflector isn't sold anymore.

Bummer.

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12 hours ago, Elegua said:

You're all set for the Med with your passerelle 

Right?  When I flip the boat around in the slip and put the cover on for winter (running a bit late this year, the weather has been incredible), we use that exactly as a passerelle.  The boy has already fallen off once and killed his phone in the process.  I laughed so hard, it was easy getting him another one.  That and insurance...

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12 hours ago, IStream said:

Hard to tell from the photo but if that's your radar reflector and it's on the same plane as the dome, I'd suggest moving it out of the line of fire. 

Great call.  Once I got it hooked up, I left and had a beer at Cloudburst.  Been working since.  I'll move that deflector this weekend.  Thanks!!  Probably would have not caught that!

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10 hours ago, Ishmael said:

Or lose it entirely and put a good reflector somewhere up the rig.

That thing is only there for Swiftsure.  I am not completely sold on the effectiveness.  I read the articles but...maybe I'll haul the boy up the mast.  Actually, he should haul me up.  I weigh less.

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3 minutes ago, Beer fueled Mayhem said:

Great call.  Once I got it hooked up, I left and had a beer at Cloudburst.  Been working since.  I'll move that deflector this weekend.  Thanks!!  Probably would have not caught that!

I'll probably be down on E dock all weekend rewiring my windlass and replacing my washdown pump. Give me a shout if you need a hand. 

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Um... I'll play.... New (to me), not sailing, survey haulout on an elevator with rails on it. Very interesting to watch when all I knew (in SoCal) was travellifts. 

 

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2 hours ago, Beer fueled Mayhem said:

That thing is only there for Swiftsure.  I am not completely sold on the effectiveness.  I read the articles but...maybe I'll haul the boy up the mast.  Actually, he should haul me up.  I weigh less.

I don't think wrapping yourself in tinfoil and having your son haul you up the mast will qualify as a radar reflector.

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14 hours ago, IStream said:

Nice. Is that a 42?

387. All that would fit in the slip (Dana Point, and they have rules, many rules....).

SWMBO really liked the aft cabin, so it became the boat. Old boat was an 1980 C-30, so a pretty good step up in comfort and speed. Heck, this one has intact gelcoat! (the C-30's deck was worn through to the glass in spots...)

 

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33 minutes ago, IStream said:

Condolences.

Thanks. In an oddly masochistic way I'm looking forward to the repair.

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44 minutes ago, justsomeguy! said:

Thanks. In an oddly masochistic way I'm looking forward to the repair.

Ouch. What boat us that?  Looks like an IP of some sort.  Good lock with the repair.  

Cheers 

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33 minutes ago, py26129 said:

Looks like an IP of some sort. Good lock with the repair.  

Thanks

Yep, an IP35.

 

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1 hour ago, justsomeguy! said:

Thanks. In an oddly masochistic way I'm looking forward to the repair.

Here's your opportunity to glass in a substantial knee for the chains and get rid of that shitty glassed in design.

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6 minutes ago, SloopJonB said:

Here's your opportunity to glass in a substantial knee for the chains and get rid of that shitty glassed in design.

Can you elucidate? Always willing to consider different ideas.

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56 minutes ago, justsomeguy! said:

Can you elucidate? Always willing to consider different ideas.

Something like this.

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If you search on "chainplate knee" and check the image files you'll see lots of variety.

I despise metal embedded in glass, particularly metal that is a maintenance item.

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7 minutes ago, SloopJonB said:

I despise metal embedded in glass, particularly metal that is a maintenance item.

Yah, I get that. ;)

Thanks for replying.

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4 hours ago, justsomeguy! said:

Thanks

Yep, an IP35.

 

I'll be doing that job, at some point in the future on my 31

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28 minutes ago, py26129 said:

I'll be doing that job, at some point in the future on my 31

What vintage is yours?

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7 hours ago, justsomeguy! said:

Can you elucidate? Always willing to consider different ideas.

Your original failure was due to "crevice corrosion" which happens when SS is in an anaerobic environment-- precisely what glassing in the chainplates creates. I had the same failure on my Soverel...  didn't glass in the replacements ;)

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11 hours ago, justsomeguy! said:

What vintage is yours?

Mine is a 1985.  Its spent all its llife in fresh water, so far.  We plan to change that in a few years

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Very long story told very short....Ever since a family trip to Costa Rica our family adventure vehicle of any sort has been adorned by a bit of mojo in the form of an "Adventure Monkey". Here's the latest mascot aboard Kolibri.

 

 

 

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On 12/4/2020 at 1:48 PM, justsomeguy! said:

Thanks. In an oddly masochistic way I'm looking forward to the repair.

I just finished cutting out all my chain plates and the back stay. I hope you have more fun doing it then I did. 

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Looks like you had a pretty consistent 6" of water covering the bottom of that chainplate...

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1 hour ago, Off Watch said:

I hope you have more fun doing it then I did. 

Probably. I've got two backstays.

Thanks. ;)

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Please tell us you're not going to reinstall them that same horrid way.

Please.

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11 hours ago, SloopJonB said:

Please tell us you're not going to reinstall them that same horrid way.

Please.

I have spent a year mulling this over in my head. If I bolt the chain plates to the outside it changes the look of the boat too much, and yes aesthetics are important. I had also considered Installing knees like the photo but it would really ruin the pilot berth on the starboard side which is one of my favorite features on the boat and other issues. I also worry about insurance problems if I start changing the original design. Bottom line they have lasted 50 years and the last 20 were not with much maintenance. If they last only half as long with new ones then it won't be me that will be replacing them. 

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13 hours ago, SloopJonB said:

Please tell us you're not going to reinstall them that same horrid way.

Please.

You talkin' to me or @Off Watch?

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The Bucc isn't sailing for awhile. Unfortunately the DN's in the box aren't either. We still have a couple of deep lakes that haven't frozen yet so there is hope.

Fatbiking and skiing are good though.

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My Albin Vega  "LUCKY" anchored in Davis Bay inside Decatur Head Washington State in 2 fathoms.  Just south of a half-tide rock that attracts the seals.  July 2019.  Took a walk over to the excellent little store in the middle of the island.tgV1uVRjpEZKg7ZDpuwlCJRN-mYKQuZPIRrFmCBWYx8gV6ZlKBdVuyw_MvDLolupAOSYp4atE_Kym-cpniKhuFwT8hnW2_7vcvsZWEmRGORsZHyUM3-i5_6oBf16-09RZUtQivkcpTs3vJ7In_Z_6oSJY2FCXkKq09wiQSSk8udQwqqWY5rGvh0jJb6aHNPEe94ksxLTmZPepIA95fLw2-09uh4Jc3iMqwdo_7YlBTbkpu3afLYBQMW0itsHh8pbmvOEAt3V84QQvsTMWAIMZ0ij07mYj92ejTg8OKcFjEPWmlevYeFuonsaKwCp1gFUmWdz2Ma2X9gwiwxdTLCe92AkRxsYCOsVYTP7y6WLStFbpcUlvzStR6wR8hTEkMSyiXhCsyogFv3hzvlwGWDO-MYDL_6NTa0e4GLxHCA3W5ZpRkRuIkUHDa9eoyZCV2GGqeieJeBZJAgPT54-2v905ounLySS9rl3HUGKH1zYmESoKzxPE72aI6_LAwy8RJtHjEE4It3WwXHsHQj44lZxIAw9KyNVrlmq_f8Di16KF01cxzSClrU3zFy6TgBsb3LeCA8HyG_uytKtv9PsXJovzGuCoYA5OM2P-RxMKbRgLo3YPPS5zoE3QmeKF_h_DVHJpHsJYbRiG0sZdXAfY-vcktXUO0gLMpNK5g-q7Bi3qgl7EsUWnG98KB4WXmQy=w423-h239-no?authuser=0

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On 12/1/2020 at 5:42 PM, chester said:

aloha built a 27/28 foot perry design too.  a no non-sense, good quality, low volume builder i guess.

Yep. Perry designed the Aloha 26, also marketed as the 27, 8.2 and 271.

26' 9" LOA.

The last two were built by Dana Hunter Boatbuilding in Tatamagouche NS who bought the mould after Ouyang Yachts went under and were called the Parks 27. To this day I can access all of the templates stored inside said mould. Kind of handy to have.

We're alongside at the former Dundee Marina in Cape Breton, NS.

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