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Mike Hunt

Farr 36 - Toy Story

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Not seriously interested but always looking...

What's the deal on Toy Story - the canting keep Farr 36 that's been for sale in Australia now for a while?  On paper the boat looks like good value...  

Does is sail to it's rating?  Is it in descent shape?  Is the keel system well sorted?

Thanks,

MH

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I have asked for more detail on the boat as it does look interesting to me - and enticing.

 

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1 minute ago, Hitchhiker said:

Wasn't there one of these in san Francisco.  War Pony??

I don't think it had a canting keel

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Quick boat reaching and downhill, uphill isn't bad but waterline is king, we used to beat it regularly club racing on a F40OD, was originally modded when Ian Oatley owned it.

Only problem they've had with the cant system since I've raced against it was forgetting to charge the batteries after Saturday racing, has a decent kit of North 3Di gear which they worked with Michael Coxon to develop. Hasn't done alot of IRC racing locally as I think it rates off the charts (as you might expect)

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2 minutes ago, Gorn FRANTIC!! said:

Quick boat reaching and downhill, uphill isn't bad but waterline is king, we used to beat it regularly club racing on a F40OD, was originally modded when Ian Oatley owned it.

Only problem they've had with the cant system since I've raced against it was forgetting to charge the batteries after Saturday racing, has a decent kit of North 3Di gear which they worked with Michael Coxon to develop. Hasn't done alot of IRC racing locally as I think it rates off the charts (as you might expect)

Thanks - good info

Since you are local - do you know what kind of nick the boat is in?

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Haven't seen it for a few months now, but I do know where it is, hasn't been sailed regularly for about 12 months so would need a general clean and tidy up i would imagine but no major works required.

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You say the you were beating it with a Farr 40 OD... How were the boats rated relatively speaking?  (it's understood that the IRC rating would be laughable)

 

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A Farr 40 would handle them around a W/L track pretty easily I imagine unless its nuking.

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I also raced an F40 against her. W/L they never trouble the F40s much.

 Anything that was a bit free & the bloody thing would just run away & doesn't need to hide because it's over the horizon.

I don't remember any serious problems with the boat, as with all boats built to the limit things do crop up but the current owner seems to run a pretty good maintenance program & any issues are dealt with quickly. 

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1 minute ago, Rawhide said:

Slower than a Melges 32 downwind, was a bargain last time it was sold

Really?  sounds a bit suspect

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Raced it in a HCW a few years ago in a M32, took time out of it every down wind, faster upwind as you might imagine. They did a Super 40 regatta with us a few months ago, cant recall seeing it on the course from the ker 40

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30 minutes ago, Rawhide said:

Slower than a Melges 32 downwind, was a bargain last time it was sold

Not any of the ones I sailed against. 

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1 hour ago, doghouse said:

Not any of the ones I sailed against. 

are you thinking Toy Story is an 11s? it's not.

 

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10 hours ago, Parma said:

are you thinking Toy Story is an 11s? it's not.

 

I've known the boat so long I still think of it as Bacardi. So no.

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6 hours ago, jackolantern said:

$95,000 USD? That's pretty cheap for a bit of an offshore capable rocket in good nick. 

That was my thought...

 

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4 hours ago, Mike Hunt said:

That was my thought...

 

Upkeep of a canter is not chump change

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On 9/19/2018 at 9:11 AM, Rawhide said:

Slower than a Melges 32 downwind, was a bargain last time it was sold

Only when you stopped broaching :P

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18 minutes ago, doghouse said:

Gotta imagine with that canter it's a good bit lower.

Yeah would guesstimate something in the -15 to -24 range

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On 9/19/2018 at 2:40 PM, jackolantern said:

$95,000 USD? That's pretty cheap for a bit of an offshore capable rocket in good nick. 

Why not just buy a Farr 40 for same or less?

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Farr 11s rated 1.34 under IRC - this should rate about 1.29-1.3 as no asymetric boards and a fair bit heavier.

The work done on the keel was top notch, as per everything in the Wild Oats programs....sailing this boat was what prompted me to have the 11s designed.  From design concept to launch rating went from 1.28 to 1.35, so was dead in IRC before it hit the water....but lots of fun to sail.

90K is way to much for an orphan like this ....

my 4 cents

 

 

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4 hours ago, MKF said:

 

90K is way to much for an orphan like this ....

 

 

 

I agree.

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7 hours ago, MKF said:

Farr 11s rated 1.34 under IRC - this should rate about 1.29-1.3 as no asymetric boards and a fair bit heavier.

The work done on the keel was top notch, as per everything in the Wild Oats programs....sailing this boat was what prompted me to have the 11s designed.  From design concept to launch rating went from 1.28 to 1.35, so was dead in IRC before it hit the water....but lots of fun to sail.

90K is way to much for an orphan like this ....

my 4 cents

 

 

No disagreement here but it is just an asking price - for the right price though it could be a great boat for shorter coastal jaunts like Annap-Newport, Vineyard, NPT-BER, Mac race and maybe even Pineapple cup and Transpac - sure as hell don't want to do a predominantly upwind race with it

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2 hours ago, Christian said:

No disagreement here but it is just an asking price - for the right price though it could be a great boat for shorter coastal jaunts like Annap-Newport, Vineyard, NPT-BER, Mac race and maybe even Pineapple cup and Transpac - sure as hell don't want to do a predominantly upwind race with it

Cost you over 30 K to ship it and land it in the states...

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2 hours ago, MKF said:

Cost you over 30 K to ship it and land it in the states...

Nah. You'd flat rack the boat and send rig separately 

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7 hours ago, sail2win said:

Doghouse,

What is your US dollar fair price estimate?

Depending on the sails, 65 to 75.

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2 hours ago, Gorn FRANTIC!! said:

Don't ask him, he touches himself a night.

Only when thinking about race boats 

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2 minutes ago, doghouse said:

Depending on the sails, 65 to 75.

I was seriously looking at War Pony before I purchased my Soto 40. This listing doesnt have the age of sails. I agree with doghouse, $70k. 

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32 minutes ago, TUBBY said:

OZ dollar is about 72 cents US.  So price is pretty much in your ballpark.

 

I didn't realize you guys were talking Oz dollars. I'd say it's in the ball park then.

31 minutes ago, TripleZeros said:

I was seriously looking at War Pony before I purchased my Soto 40. This listing doesnt have the age of sails. I agree with doghouse, $70k. 

War Pony has had a pretty rough life. They did do a very good job rebuilding it though, a friend of mine did a lot of the work.

 

It's stretching my memory a bit, but I think it was a Carroll boat too, which was part of the issue.

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Cost me 18k to ship the old one tonner from Brisbane to Dubai - flat rack and no mast. Everything in Oz is about twice the price of the States...

think you would be better off looking at Trouble, the 11s for sale in Nova Scotia, faster and younger...

used sails are there to learn, which ever boat you buy you will need at least a new main (go full battens, lady’s way longer)and jib.

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On 9/21/2018 at 4:45 PM, doghouse said:

Nah. You'd flat rack the boat and send rig separately 

I believe the mast is a 2-piece n' est pas?

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1 hour ago, Christian said:

I believe the mast is a 2-piece n' est pas?

Not unless it was custom. All the others are one piece  

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1 minute ago, doghouse said:

Not unless it was custom. All the others are one piece  

gotcha - thx

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On 9/22/2018 at 7:13 AM, doghouse said:

Only when thinking about race boats 

Or the proper topless sendoff we gave your 36

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23 minutes ago, Kack said:

Or the proper topless sendoff we gave your 36

Top five day on the water right there.

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