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Yacht washes up in Boat Harbour (Sydney) -- Man dead

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A man is dead after a yacht capsized in Sydney's south on Monday morning.

Police said a woman managed to swim to shore at Boat Harbour, near Kurnell, about 5am and raise the alarm with emergency services.

https://www.9news.com.au/2018/09/24/07/03/one-dead-cronulla-boat-capsized-wanda-beach

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Not particularly knarly last night - 20-30 from the South. But I don't imagine that tub points too well off a lee shore with no main and a large furling genoa.

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Capsized with the main still in the cover? Something is missing from this story.

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1 minute ago, Baldur said:

Capsized with the main still in the cover? Something is missing from this story.

Hard to see if its still there in the photo but maybe the keel fell off?  Sad story

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The news video clearly shows the main under its cover.

“We believe she was about 20 to 30 metres off shore,” NSW Police Acting Inspector Melissa Thompson said.
So maybe capsized in the surf? "The vessel remains washed up near Wanda Beach because the conditions are too hazardous to remove it at this stage."

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The boat has no keel so either it snapped off or was designed as a centreboarder. It looks about 32 ft and is called CC Rider. Does anyone know it ?

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ok - I think we can assume the news report is mostly bogus. Anything will 'capsize' once its in the surf.

Looks to me like they were out in a little bit of wind, had the main down with the just furling genoa out - nice cruisy downwind rig (probably heading north, its been blowing from the South all Sunday), and stuffed up their nav - ending up in Bate Bay.

Couldn't get off the lee shore in a S/SE with that rig up..  then the usual clusterfuck of lines in the water, fouled prop... end up on the beach.

Does Merries break  in 2m swell? 

 

more info: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-09-24/man-dies-and-woman-swims-to-shore-after-yacht-capsizes-in-sydney/10297296

 

The man who died after his yacht capsized at Boat Harbour in Sydney's south had just bought the vessel.

The ABC understands the man was originally from Bundaberg, Queensland, and was in Sydney to sail the boat to Queensland.

A woman he was with swam to shore after the yacht overturned about 5:00am and notified paramedics.

It is understood the man was in his mid-70s.

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The yacht, named C.C. Rider, had been docked at a wharf at Greenwell Point before the new owner picked it up yesterday

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, duncan (the other one) said:

Does Merries break  in 2m swell

If boat ended up at Wanda and she swam ashore at Boat Harbour in a SE then you would think that near that reef is where things went pear shaped.

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It’s a Contessa 26.

Full keel, transom hung rudder.

Looks like the roller furler was stuck and pulled it ashore. Too bad for the couple 

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Merries reef will break on the fourth reef at low tide in a big swell..nav gone bad..sad news

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22 minutes ago, Sail4beer said:

It’s a Contessa 26.

Full keel, transom hung rudder.

Looks like the roller furler was stuck and pulled it ashore. Too bad for the couple 

No a Van de stadt 29

The missing guy was a poster on Seabreeze.com.au

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2 hours ago, duncan (the other one) said:

ok - I think we can assume the news report is mostly bogus. Anything will 'capsize' once its in the surf.

Looks to me like they were out in a little bit of wind, had the main down with the just furling genoa out - nice cruisy downwind rig (probably heading north, its been blowing from the South all Sunday), and stuffed up their nav - ending up in Bate Bay.

Couldn't get off the lee shore in a S/SE with that rig up..  then the usual clusterfuck of lines in the water, fouled prop... end up on the beach.

Does Merries break  in 2m swell? 

 

more info: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-09-24/man-dies-and-woman-swims-to-shore-after-yacht-capsizes-in-sydney/10297296

 

The man who died after his yacht capsized at Boat Harbour in Sydney's south had just bought the vessel.

The ABC understands the man was originally from Bundaberg, Queensland, and was in Sydney to sail the boat to Queensland.

A woman he was with swam to shore after the yacht overturned about 5:00am and notified paramedics.

It is understood the man was in his mid-70s.

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The yacht, named C.C. Rider, had been docked at a wharf at Greenwell Point before the new owner picked it up yesterday

 

 

 

Just bought the boat, doing a delivery back home, up north to Bundy in a fresh southerly (bloody cold out there last night!) with just two on board an unfamiliar small boat??

Another, apparently ill-considered,  tragedy......

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3 minutes ago, Fleetwood said:

Just bought the boat, doing a delivery back home, up north to Bundy in a fresh southerly (bloody cold out there last night!) with just two on board an unfamiliar small boat??

Another, apparently ill-considered,  tragedy......

It would have been mighty cold out there. Probably around 8c.

There certainly was some yellow rope around the prop. Probably that polypropylene stuff that fishermen use.

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3 hours ago, DOGSBALLS said:

Channel 9 video shows a rope around the prop. 

 That would explain it.  

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1 hour ago, lydia said:

No a Van de stadt 29

The missing guy was a poster on Seabreeze.com.au

Experienced sailor? 

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3 hours ago, Fleetwood said:

Dirty bottom too?

Too right it was dirty. One shot showed weed about 4" thick which would have cut the speed in half.

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9 hours ago, savoir said:

This is a Van de Stadt 29. It has very pronounced chines and a spade rudder.

 

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I recently learned that some Van de Stadt models were built in hard chine and round bilge versions.

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We are short a few stale 'keel fell off' comments. Only two so far.

It was funny how many of those comments were made on my Oyster thread a while back. When oyster had one boat that had some bad engineering or specs on a single refurb.

About as stale as the rimas chicken choking jokes

 

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18 hours ago, savoir said:

This is a Van de Stadt 29. It has very pronounced chines and a spade rudder.

 

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There are lot of Van de Stadt 29 designs.

One of the most prolific designers in history.

The relevant boat looks like a smaller version of the Pioneer 10.

 

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On 9/24/2018 at 9:23 AM, Baldur said:

Capsized with the main still in the cover? Something is missing from this story.

Australian Journalists are some of the laziest on earth. All sailboat incidents involve a 'capsize' just as a person is always 'rushed' to hospital and all football games are a 'clash'. 

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1 hour ago, LB 15 said:

Australian Journalists are some of the laziest on earth. All sailboat incidents involve a 'capsize' just as a person is always 'rushed' to hospital and all football games are a 'clash'. 

And don't forget "smoke inhalation".

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5 hours ago, LB 15 said:

Australian Journalists are some of the laziest on earth. All sailboat incidents involve a 'capsize' just as a person is always 'rushed' to hospital and all football games are a 'clash'. 

Just as all losing tennis players are "bundled out"

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2 hours ago, SPORTSCAR said:

Just as all losing tennis players are "bundled out"

I was going to say that.

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1 minute ago, random said:

But how does one die in that incident?

Boat rolls or capsizes on breaking reef, guy gets tangled and drowned..... could have also been a heart attack.

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7 minutes ago, Tornado_ALIVE said:

Boat rolls or capsizes on breaking reef, guy gets tangled and drowned..... could have also been a heart attack.

Shame to see a fatality when the boat is essentially intact.

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51 minutes ago, Tornado_ALIVE said:

 could have also been a heart attack.

brought on by the young lass he was sailing with...

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2 minutes ago, Marcjsmith said:

brought on by the young lass he was sailing with...

Thumbs up...... Great way to respect the dead.

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It’s a damned shame that they were unable to stay with the boat and that Terry’s life was lost. However, this is Sailing Anarchy and the condition of the bottom and the overall situation deserves to be discussed.

Markjsmith has done nothing to offend me and if the skipper were alive in the hospital, he would likely chuckle.

 

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7 hours ago, Mark Set said:

Press F to pay respects

Press Alt/F4 to connect to the complaint department.

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Does that line around the prop look like a line off the boat or a fu#king fish trap ?

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CC Rider is a pretty docile little cruiser, I spent 7 day's on her about 18 months ago. The then owner wanted her moved from Wollongong to St Kilda.

She was a little unloved and had been sitting at Wollongong for a couple of years without being used. I found it a good solid hull, motor was crap but functional, bottom dirty which the then owner cleaned as best he could and the rig and lines were all in reasonable nick. The boat then had only a basic depth sounder, no nav equipment at all.

After getting as far as Eden where the  motor was spent (exhaust manifold crumbled), the tiller pilot working 2 minutes over an hour I headed back North and anchored the boat at Greenwall point (owner's choice) with a list of items requiring attention. Sailing single handed she balanced very well and was able to use a single line to hold the tiller for prolonged periods and hold course +/- 3 degrees.

Can't see any obvious reason as to what has ended with the boat on the beach with the skipper deceased. The motor would be useless in any sea state (if the original single stroke ducati still fitted), but looks like it was functional and used at some stage to have the line around it. Only other observation is that the boat hadn't been out of the water and the bottom cleaned. Otherwise the boat looks intact on the beach.

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1 hour ago, upwind said:

Does that line around the prop look like a line off the boat or a fu#king fish trap ?

Looks like a fish trap marker line to me.

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