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Spending hours in the kitchen today cooking for company and using it to get some quality time in with my music collection. Pour yourself your favorite beverage, grab whomever is special to you, or just close your eyes and enjoy six minutes of bliss. RIP, Stevie.

 

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^^^ Probably best blues guitarist to have lived.

Doesn't get much better than this intro (which lasts 1 1/2 minutes).

 

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24 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:

Doesn't get much better than this intro (which lasts 1 1/2 minutes)

Juste wantned ti macke siurre you diddentte wantte it, butte needed it.                         :)

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And one of the weirdest stories in music. This Detroit singer/songwriter recorded this stuff nearly 50 years ago, then rumored to have committed suicide on stage and not really discovered (outside Sth Africa and Australia) until 30 years later working as a builders labourer. Still touring aged 76.

 

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3 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:

And one of the weirdest stories in music. This Detroit singer/songwriter recorded this stuff nearly 50 years ago, then rumored to have committed suicide and not discovered (outside Sth Africa and Australia) until 30 years later working as a builders labourer. Still touring aged 76.

Goode stuffe, I halve the doctrumentrey;

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Maybe not the best but probably still the fastest:

 

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29 minutes ago, Fleetwood said:

Maybe not the best but probably still the fastest:

 

And don't forget Jorma...

https://youtu.be/jSyuTxMq4Pg

BTW.. I am having trouble embedding videos from my phone (regardless of http vs https). Any tips?

 

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Clapton.  As huge as is his reputation, I'll argue that he's actually underrated. If you take into the whole of his career, there are a host of black bluesmen who worked in obscurity until Clapton began promoting and championing their music. Unlike Page, he always gave credit where credit was due. From Hideaway with Bluesbreakers, to the solo on Whole My Guitar Gently Weeps, to Tales of Brave Ulysses, and more recently check out Sensitive Kind if you want to dampen your wife's panties, the guy always plays with impeccable taste. Yeah, he can't go to places he used to go, but his recent stuff is so tasteful that you forget that.

I'm also glad I was on the planet at the same time and got to see BB King. Thank you, Lucille!

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Rachel Flowers, she is beyond great.  Please give her a listen.  When she plays she becomes the music.

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1 hour ago, Cruisin Loser said:

Clapton.  As huge as is his reputation, I'll argue that he's actually underrated. 

I agree. Love his lyrics where one of the interesting things was how he used his song writing to deal with the grief of his son dieing with numbers like Tears In Heaven, Signe, Circus and My Father's Eyes. If you were ever asked to name two people you wanted to show up at a party he and Stevie Ray Vaughan were top of the list.

I first saw him playing with Cream (Clapton, Bruce & Baker and after being with John Myall in the Bluesbreakers) who formed in 1966 disbanding a couple of years later. Bands didn't have a long lifespan back then even though Cream were arguably the world's first super group. 

They did this one off gig in 2005 nearly 40 years later.

 

 

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This Canadian girl from Naniamo....

 

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4 hours ago, jack_sparrow said:

I agree. Love his lyrics where one of the interesting things was how he used his song writing to deal with the grief of his son dieing with numbers like Tears In Heaven, Signe, Circus and My Father's Eyes. If you were ever asked to name two people you wanted to show up at a party he and Stevie Ray Vaughan were top of the list.

I first saw him playing with Cream (Clapton, Bruce & Baker and after being with John Myall in the Bluesbreakers) who formed in 1966 disbanding a couple of years later. Bands didn't have a long lifespan back then even though Cream were arguably the world's first super group. 

They did this one off gig in 2005 nearly 40 years later.

 

 

Wheels of Fire - first record I ever bought>

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Those were the days!

I had a vinyl of Rodriguez way back when. Always glad to be reminded to play it now. CD version of course...
My favourites in no particular order

Mark Knoeffler

Steve Hunter

Jan Akkerman

Rodriguez

All time best song? Arlo Guthrie. Alices Restaurant!

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Led Zeppelin from their heyday, 1973

Since I've been loving you.Supreme blues rock.

 

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And it was thanks to Clapton I got to see Muddy Waters.

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I'm seeing a lot more to John Mayer. His finger and thumb playing gives an amazing sound.

 

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1 hour ago, JimC said:

And it was thanks to Clapton I got to see Muddy Waters.

Now we are talking REAL legend!

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4 hours ago, cosmicsedso said:

Those were the days!

I had a vinyl of Rodriguez way back when. Always glad to be reminded to play it now. CD version of course...

Cosmic I think you and I are one of a select few on planet earth to still have vinyls of Rodriguez. However God has not yet invented a marine friendly turntable.

So on my expedition boat my music library is all on a marinised NAS Drive with two Amps, one AC the other DC, high end wired stereo speakers throughout with individual zone/cabin/saloon/cockpit selection and then artist selection via Sonas Connect so anyone can library browse and play wirelessly using any Smart Device no matter where they are. So yes I do like my music and encourage others to partake no matter their preference.

Net result of that music fixation is I have parked up in some places where the locals two generations ago were eating each other but I left them humming the lyrics of Mick Hucknall's "Money to Tight" to explain my cruising finances. Not sure how the next cruiser lot to arrive understood that Simply Red beat them to that place in the middle of nowhere. My hope was if they arrived playing Jimmy Buffet shit the locals just ate them.

3 hours ago, SPORTSCAR said:

Led Zeppelin from their heyday, 1973

A period of heydays for many musicians.

My children and their friends are probably the biggest benefactors of my music choices. Notwithstanding not being born in the era they appreciate and discovered music from the 60's to the 80's more than their peers. A hint I get to that is everytime I fire up the BBQ on the pushpit they put on Deep Purples "Smoke Over the Water" knowing I was at that Zappa concert at the Casino  in Montreux with a girl who wasn't their mother..we got seperated by the fire...something I do regret as she was hotter than toast and didn't speak a word of English, the exception being them kids.

If you don't love music you are a dead man walking.


 

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Putting aside the history of Chicago blues and wanking on esoterically about music influences some 50 years plus old blah blah..let us not forget the cathartic influences of more recent "one hit wonders" and their connection with sailing.

For instance. Beating to windward in over 30k TWS and a horrible seaway.. a green crew who are throwing up green stuff..you round the corner and things go calm and there is a beach in front ..you then crank up this 1980 or totally forgotten 40 year old  number..yet suddenly those sick people at deaths door all crawl out out of the rack and start dancing.

When the sun goes down on your beach of choice.

 

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2 hours ago, Terrorvision said:

I'm seeing a lot more to John Mayer.

Seems like people are going the blues route.  Clapton on John Mayer pretty much sums it up:

 

Also, Hendrix deserves every bit of credit he gets.  There is no way to listen to the Voodoo Chile on Electric Ladyland and not say theres anyone out there much better now or then.  George Harrison should be on this list too IMO

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34 minutes ago, Owen said:

Any way you slice it, it's quite a story.

Owen my guess your "anyway you slice it" comment is you question the forgotten aspect of the Rodriguez story ? Forgive me if I have got that wrong.

Everyone forgets how Sth Africa pre apartheid collapsing was a country censored to the extreme, particularly music (and like many other countries in the world pre internet) and did not have a clue what was happening outside their bubble. It was that environment which gave birth to the idea in Sth Africa that Rodriguez was dead and they didn't find out otherwise for decades.

Bit like the residents of Tennessee today thinking their still voting for JFK.

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Gimme Zappa. Every time. 

No one, bar perhaps the Captain, gets anywhere close to his musicianship and inventiveness.

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1 hour ago, Alan Crawford said:

Neil Young. One of just a "few" examples

Neil Percival Young is one of God's gifts..

I grew up never seeing a proper picture  of him. The media commentators of the day explained that by saying he was shy and didn't think he was good looking enough to be a rock star. Interestingly that view in the 1990's morphed into Neil Young being the pioneer of "grunge" ahead of bands like Nirvana, Pearl Jam and Foo Fighters etc having lead band members with heads only a mother would love.

It is hard to pick a favourite song or one performance he has done since his first major band Buffalo Springfield that he formed with Stephen Stills in the mid 60's...they are simply all standouts. However if forced to pick one it is a reminisce performance in 2014 at Carnegie Hall where he played a lot for earllier work many unplayed live for years. 

Here is a snapshot.

 

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55 minutes ago, kippermoose said:

No one, bar perhaps the Captain, gets anywhere close to his musicianship and inventiveness.

Are you sure about that?? I threw up in my mouth and Tennille with those teeth and rotating head put me off saying yes to a blow job for years.

 

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Just now, jack_sparrow said:

Are you sure about that?? I threw up in my mouth and Tennille with those teeth put me off saying yes to a blow job for years.

 

Captain Beefheart...I think was the reference 

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And for the acoustic fans there is always Leo Kotke. Also hat's off to James Taylor as well.

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3 minutes ago, SailBlueH2O said:

Captain Beefheart...I think was the reference 

I was being facetious..I think I was the only one of my friends stoned enough to listen to the Capt and think a song called  Making Love To A Vampire With A Monkey On My Knee was going to be  a potential classic. I then went to AA.

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I have to go with Pete Townsend  

 

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^^^ Satatana were slow starters having to westernise their sound starting with getting a gig at Woodstock followed by the single Evil Ways played there but a pretty crude version, then a couple of years to release the album Abraxas which blew everyone's minds and gave way to a world tour. I made money selling weed to the visiting music scene to pay for my university tuition. When those guys arrived not only did consumption skyrocket the government coincidently with their tour scrapped uni fees. I was then able to buy my first wholly owned boat. My girlfriend at the time said I should call it Mary Jane..which I nearly did but thought better of it and called it Boat.

 

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Leon Russell

Funny as heck, great musician, good attitude, succeeded with a wide variety of styles & types of music.

One of my favorites.... actually my favorite version of -this- song is live with Newgrass Revival, but this one really honks

Also, I think he was the first to don a clown-y top hat as part of his rock-star costume.

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I'll put this thread to bed .........................

 

 

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10 minutes ago, Steam Flyer said:

Leon Russell....Also, I think he was the first to don a clown-y top hat as part of his rock-star costume.

Steam you have forgotten Frank Sinatra? Slash (Guns n Roses), Tom Petty and other copycats come to mind. Stevie Nicks looked the best.

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^^^  BB King who was guitar self taught, credited his style to a guy called T-Bone Walker.

In Rollings Stones Top 100 Guitarists BB King is #6 behind at #1 Hendrix followed by Clapton, Page, Richards and Beck. Poor old T-Bone didn't even make the list.

Does that mean in say another 50 years all the above are forgotten and this kid is #1??

 

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1 hour ago, jack_sparrow said:

Are you sure about that?? I threw up in my mouth and Tennille with those teeth and rotating head put me off saying yes to a blow job for years.

 

The Captain (Daryl Dragon) was actually a very good keyboard player, bassist and drummer who played with The Beachboys, and Dennis Wilson.... His brother Dennis Dragon formed the Surf Punks.

 

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21 hours ago, IStream said:

Spending hours in the kitchen today cooking for company and using it to get some quality time in with my music collection. Pour yourself your favorite beverage, grab whomever is special to you, or just close your eyes and enjoy six minutes of bliss. RIP, Stevie.

 

SRV. Wow what an incredible musician. Managed to see him three times before he passed. The last time a double bill with Joe Cocker. The first time I heard his version of Little Wing was walking out of an A Bros show in which Warren Haynes was playing lead. As the fans filed out, Little Wing came on the P.A. I remember thinking, well there ya go, only guy other than E.C. good enough or tasteful enough to even touch this tune...another time watched half a show of Stevie's brother's band before I realized it was The Fabulous Thunderbirds. Great to see Jimmy Vaughn sit in there with E.C., and in recent years B.B.

I have a never fading memory of seeing Stevie on some public T.V. station in N.Y.C. playing a big blues festival. On stage with him was Buddy Guy, B.B. King, Robert Cray, Albert Collins and Albert King. In the big closing tune, each guitarist took a turn at a twelve bar solo and passed it off to the next guy. The last guy left standing was Stevie Ray. He went through about four 12 bar turnarounds of absolutely smoking soloing, with all the other guitarists forming a semi-circle, bowing in unison, to the music, to Stevie. They were acknowledging, in a way, the new king of blues guitar. 

A ton of great guitarists came out of Texas. Freddie King, Johnny Winter, Billie Gibbons, Roy Buchanan, Albert Collins, Roy Gaines, Cornell Dupree, T-Bone Walker, Lowell Fulson to name a few...these days Gary Clarke Jr., Doyle Bramhall to name a couple. But when the dust settles, it always seems to be SRV, sounding better than the first time I ever heard him play.

 

 

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The performance Prince did at the tribute to Harrison was remarkable, the others on stage were clearly blown away. Some of my faves are Zappa, Vai, Bonnamassa,  Steve Miller,  Steve Hackett,  Howe, Beck, House, Page, Frampton, Leifson, DeGarmo, EVH, Iommi, SRV, all gods and game changers for sure. Too many more to count for sure, Man I love music!

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1 minute ago, Coolerking said:

The performance Prince did at the tribute to Harrison was remarkable, the others on stage were clearly blown away. Some of my faves are Zappa, Vai, Bonnamassa,  Steve Miller,  Steve Hackett,  Howe, Beck, House, Page, Frampton, Leifson, DeGarmo, EVH, Iommi, SRV, all gods and game changers for sure. Too many more to count for sure, Man I love music!

is that the one that Jeff Lynne hosted?  Outstanding if so.  Harrison's songs remain my favorite Beatle tunes.  

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Frank Zappa – City Of Tiny Lights

As far as I am concerned, Frank Zappa is the greatest guitarist ever. He can milk more out of three notes than anyone else can with an entire fretboard.

 

https://www.loudersound.com/features/the-top-10-best-guitar-solos-of-all-time-as-chosen-by-amplifiers-sel-balamir

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11 minutes ago, Cal20sailor said:

is that the one that Jeff Lynne hosted?  Outstanding if so.  Harrison's songs remain my favorite Beatle tunes.  

Yea I think that was it, for the record, there are so many amazing people, guitarists and Bassists that are just remarkable.  Please keep this going, that way I can re up my playlist! 

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2 minutes ago, Coolerking said:

Yea I think that was it, for the record, there are so many amazing people, guitarists and Bassists that are just remarkable.  Please keep this going, that way I can re up my playlist! 

His kid played with everyone and if ever the apple didn't fall far from the tree.  They were twins separated by 30yrs.  

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6 hours ago, jack_sparrow said:

Owen my guess your "anyway you slice it" comment is you question the forgotten aspect of the Rodriguez story ? Forgive me if I have got that wrong.

Everyone forgets how Sth Africa pre apartheid collapsing was a country censored to the extreme, particularly music (and like many other countries in the world pre internet) and did not have a clue what was happening outside their bubble. It was that environment which gave birth to the idea in Sth Africa that Rodriguez was dead and they didn't find out otherwise for decades.

Bit like the residents of Tennessee today thinking their still voting for JFK.

Ha, no, I was clowning on Snaggletooth's note ( "Goode stuffe, I halve the doctrumentrey;" )...   Heh. heh. Yeah.  

I probably wouldn't have noticed the Rodriguez film when it came out because I'm a soulless Philistine, but I have a longtime colleague from Zimbabwe who let me know about what a story it was.  

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21 hours ago, -Dino said:

Jimmy Page is my favorite of all time:

Since this thread is about reputations, I have to disagree, regrettably, on Jimmy Page.

Normally I am loath to speak ill of anyone, but Led Zep had a bad habit of taking blues songs and covering them without giving songwriting credit to the original authors. Muddy Waters, the estate of Howlin' Wolf, and Willie Dixon all had to sue to receive royalties.

Contrast this to Clapton and the Stones, who have always generously acknowledged original sources and paid royalties without complaint.

Nobody has mentioned the Stones, and that is perhaps understandable. Their reputation is so huge, how could anyone actually live up to the hype of "The World's Greatest Rock'n Roll Band"?

In my opinion, for a 4 album period, Beggar's Banquet, Let It Bleed, Sticky Fingers, and Exiles On Main Street, they came damn close. An astounding run of great studio records, with two terrific live albums of the period, Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out, and Brussels Affair.

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Mick Taylor.

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I love lots of the musicians mentioned here, love me some Zappa.

But the best musician of his generation is Prince. Hands down. Pure musicianship, he played them all well. His reputation is 100% deserved, if anything he is underappreciated for his skill because of the fact that as a front man he was the James Brown of his generation.

Most of his albums he did all the music in studio his bands were for touring. He did all the studio music for the Time as well. When they start to clear out his vault I think we will be shocked at the depth of music he recorded in a variety of styles. 

 

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4 hours ago, jack_sparrow said:
4 hours ago, Steam Flyer said:

Leon Russell....Also, I think he was the first to don a clown-y top hat as part of his rock-star costume.

Steam you have forgotten Frank Sinatra? Slash (Guns n Roses), Tom Petty and other copycats come to mind. Stevie Nicks looked the best.

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She's a cutie all right. I always liked her singing.

I don't think Sinatra wore an oversized clowny-looking top hat. And if he did, he didn't play an electric guitar while wearing one. OTOH he didn't need gimmicks!

And I didn't say Leon was the only one, just that he might have been the first. He was darn sure doing it long before Stevie or G&R...... were they even born yet ??

-DSK

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5 hours ago, Mid said:

I'll put this thread to bed .........................

 

 

Making fine use of the Peter Green Les Paul there. RIP GM. He was a great one.

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Leon Russell was the best keyboard player/pianist of our times.... Elton John, and others withered in his presence.

 Even Marcia Ball bowed down to Leon.....

 But he was very underappreciated.

 

 

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Van Morrison was great with "THEM"..... But in the last 40 years, he's been a nothing.

 (Actually, I liked a few songs on "Enlightenment")

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1 hour ago, Mrleft8 said:

Van Morrison was great with "THEM"..... But in the last 40 years, he's been a nothing.

 (Actually, I liked a few songs on "Enlightenment")

Astral Weeks was a great recording. I have to disagree with you on Van. Virtually the only musician that I kept all my vinyl.

 

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And nobody has mentioned Jeff Beck yet. Still kicking ass.

 

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10 minutes ago, Ishmael said:

And nobody has mentioned Jeff Beck yet. Still kicking ass.

Thank you Ish!  I was going to point that out as well.  A huge reputation, and completely deserved, not just for what he's done in the past, but for the fact that he keeps stretching.  Some hits, some misses (IMO), but he's always worth listening to.

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Clapton reckons Beck is the best. I agree.

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3 hours ago, Mrleft8 said:

Van Morrison was great with "THEM"..... But in the last 40 years, he's been a nothing.

 

2 hours ago, Ishmael said:

Astral Weeks was a great recording. I have to disagree with you on Van. Virtually the only musician that I kept all my vinyl.

I can't think of an artist that generates such polarised opinions as Van the Man.  It is easy to to bracket him as a sullen, indulgent and obnoxious prick. His total lack of connection with his audience, monosyllabic interviews and paying big bucks to his concerts to find the door shut the moment he starts and then it him facing the band....and yes post 1980 most of his stuff has been crap, though an improvement in latter years.

But wow what a fuckin voice and 5 decades later you can place yourself exactly upon first hearing JFK had been shot and hearing Astral Weeks.

Linky is a review in the New Yorker earllier this year about something rarer than rockinghorse shit, a book about the Van and the making of that album.

The launguage used in the expert opinions on this album are nearly on par with the album itself... “a mystical document”...“a beacon, a light on the far shores of the murk.”... “a sense of the divine.” ...and equating it to Bob Beamon’s record-shattering long-jump performance at the Mexico City Olympics, a singular achievement that was “way outside of history.”

I haven't read the book but recall being told that his recording instructions are "Follow me and don't get in the way". I believe that as you can often see that impatience with his fellow musicians when on stage.

I just wish the prick would get rid of the fuckin hat and turn around so I could watch his lips move.

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/the-miracle-of-van-morrisons-astral-weeks

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0735221340/ref=as_at?creativeASIN=0735221340&linkCode=w61&imprToken=ljKcGCKA.JUZ7UwohHr76g&slotNum=0&tag=thneyo0f-20

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One of my favorites is the recently deceased Otis Rush.  He was the man that gave Buddy Guy his first shot, SRV took his song "Double Trouble" for his band name, and Eric Clapton credits Otis with much of his style of blues.

 

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12 hours ago, jack_sparrow said:

Neil Percival Young is one of God's gifts..

I grew up never seeing a proper picture  of him. The media commentators of the day explained that by saying he was shy and didn't think he was good looking enough to be a rock star. Interestingly that view in the 1990's morphed into Neil Young being the pioneer of "grunge" ahead of bands like Nirvana, Pearl Jam and Foo Fighters etc having lead band members with heads only a mother would love.

It is hard to pick a favourite song or one performance he has done since his first major band Buffalo Springfield that he formed with Stephen Stills in the mid 60's...they are simply all standouts. However if forced to pick one it is a reminisce performance in 2014 at Carnegie Hall where he played a lot for earllier work many unplayed live for years. 

Here is a snapshot.

 

+  a googol

 

Live at Massey Hall when he still had a voice is nothing short of a masterpiece.  Ohio on that album is my favorite 

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10 minutes ago, Cal20sailor said:

+  a googol

 

Live at Massey Hall when he still had a voice is nothing short of a masterpiece.  Ohio on that album is my favorite 

Yes it was good and the missus on stage too. Back to Carnegie I laugh where at the end he says "I'm almost ready to play my hit now"...(played Heart of Gold).

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2 hours ago, Happy said:

Clapton reckons Beck is the best. I agree.

When asked in an interview how it felt to be the worlds best guitarist, Clapton famously replied, I have no idea, why don't you ask Prince?

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1 minute ago, SPORTSCAR said:

When asked in an interview how it felt to be the worlds best guitarist, Clapton famously replied, I have no idea, why don't you ask Prince?

Before that, Clapton's reply was "Why don't you ask Jeff Beck?"

And Paul McCartney, asked how it felt to be the world's best songwriter, said "I don't know, you should ask Neil Finn."

I'm pretty sure this is an archetypal apocryphal quote.

But hell yeah, Prince was an amazing guitarist (and all-around musician). If you can find any of his "Live at Montreux 2009" videos you should grab them while you can.  As soon as they pop up on YouTube they get deleted, but they are a great look at an amazing musician and performer.

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Good lord, how would anyone ever choose......there are so many. Elton John, Linda Ronstadt..........okay......how about Jackson Brown? Of course everyone thinks of the Load Out/Stay........but this always struck a chord with me.......now more than ever.

 

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I wore this album out...several times. Rod Stewart “Every Picture Tells a Story”. My two favorite songs were Mandolin Wind and this.......

 

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The Rolling Stones...what a phenomenon. Love Charlie's drums.

 

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And then there's The BAND.

 

 

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