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18 hours ago, Ishmael said:

Why do right-wingers not possess a functioning sense of humour?

I know it wasn't serious, I was just playing the stupidity out.  And it's not humor, it's the embarrassment of being obviously wrong masquerading as a bad joke.

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Going home... If going home is an option they would never have qualified as refugees anyway. Despicable what the organizers of this humanitarian nightmare have done.

"Members of the Central American migrant caravan slumped in a line late afternoon to ask for return passage, after traveling for more than a month and trekking thousands of miles by foot, by bus and crammed into the beds of trucks for days".

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/border-baja-california/sd-me-two-tents-20181126-story.html

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2 hours ago, Dog said:

Going home... If going home is an option they would never have qualified as refugees anyway.

Incorrect. Going home is not the same as going home and it being safe to do so. An honest person would not pretend otherwise as you're doing.

 

2 hours ago, Dog said:

Despicable what the organizers of this humanitarian nightmare have done.

Despicable what the US has done to those in this humanitarian nightmare. I mean, I never thought I'd see the day that you yanks would justify tear-gassing children, but your president said it was OK and the craven party loyalists follow in lock-step. Truly, reprehensibly, despicable what your nation has done to them.

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4 minutes ago, Bent Sailor said:
2 hours ago, Dog said:

Going home... If going home is an option they would never have qualified as refugees anyway.

Incorrect. Going home is not the same as going home and it being safe to do so. An honest person would not pretend otherwise as you're doing.

 

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Despicable what the organizers of this humanitarian nightmare have done.

Despicable what the US has done to those in this humanitarian nightmare. I mean, I never thought I'd see the day that you yanks would justify tear-gassing children, but your president said it was OK and the craven party loyalists follow in lock-step. Truly, reprehensibly, despicable what your nation has done to them.

"When you see a picture of the caravan composed of women and children you're being duped."

(actual @Dog quote)

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3 minutes ago, Bent Sailor said:

Incorrect. Going home is not the same as going home and it being safe to do so. An honest person would not pretend otherwise as you're doing.

 

Despicable what the US has done to those in this humanitarian nightmare. I mean, I never thought I'd see the day that you yanks would justify tear-gassing children, but your president said it was OK and the craven party loyalists follow in lock-step. Truly, reprehensibly, despicable what your nation has done to them.

It’s truly a shit sandwich, and the righties are eating with a grin.

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1 hour ago, Bent Sailor said:

Incorrect. Going home is not the same as going home and it being safe to do so. An honest person would not pretend otherwise as you're doing.

 

Despicable what the US has done to those in this humanitarian nightmare. I mean, I never thought I'd see the day that you yanks would justify tear-gassing children, but your president said it was OK and the craven party loyalists follow in lock-step. Truly, reprehensibly, despicable what your nation has done to them.

You are not instrumental in, or really even relevant to, the decision making process. As such, your opinion isn't relevant"....Bent Sailor 

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1 hour ago, Raz'r said:

It’s truly a shit sandwich, and the righties are eating with a grin.

It's truly a humanitarian nightmare the leftist organizers have perpetrated on these poor people.

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7 minutes ago, Dog said:

You are not instrumental in, or really even relevant to, the decision making process. As such, your opinion isn't relevant"....Bent Sailor 

And yet you continue to pay my opinion heed, and therefore it is relevant to you here. Thanks for, once again, proving you didn't get the point then and still haven't a clue now. :lol:

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1 hour ago, Bus Driver said:

"When you see a picture of the caravan composed of women and children you're being duped."

(actual @Dog quote)

Since only about 25% of the caravaners are women & children, @Dog is correct.  The caravan is composed overwhelming of men, mostly in their 20’s and 30’s.

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2 hours ago, Bent Sailor said:

Incorrect. Going home is not the same as going home and it being safe to do so. An honest person would not pretend otherwise as you're doing.

 

Despicable what the US has done to those in this humanitarian nightmare. I mean, I never thought I'd see the day that you yanks would justify tear-gassing children, but your president said it was OK and the craven party loyalists follow in lock-step. Truly, reprehensibly, despicable what your nation has done to them.

Please share how you expressed your outrage at the frequent use of tear gas (actually CS gas) by Border Patrol agents under the direction of the Obama administration on immigrants attempting to cross the border illegally.  Actually the policy employed by the Border Patrol on the use of CS gas and pepper spray was written by the Obama administration.

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1 hour ago, J28 said:

Please share how you expressed your outrage at the frequent use of tear gas (actually CS gas) by Border Patrol agents under the direction of the Obama administration on immigrants attempting to cross the border illegally.  Actually the policy employed by the Border Patrol on the use of CS gas and pepper spray was written by the Obama administration.

Try again, but this time in English..... Please.

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1 hour ago, Mrleft8 said:

Try again, but this time in English..... Please.

Your lack of comprehension ain’t my problem.

RIF

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Mexico asks US to investigate use of tear gas on migrants along border

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WASHINGTON/TIJUANA, Mexico (Reuters) - Mexico’s foreign ministry presented a diplomatic note to the U.S. government on Monday calling for “a full investigation” into what it described as non-lethal weapons directed toward Mexican territory on Sunday, a statement from the ministry said.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration/mexico-calls-for-full-investigation-of-us-tear-gas-at-border-idUSKCN1NV1MU

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29 minutes ago, VOA said:

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Clearly should be shot. Wait, he’s not on American soil. Should we shoot across a border?

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32 minutes ago, VOA said:

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Careful, your racist misogyny is showing...

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35 minutes ago, VOA said:

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still showing

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1 hour ago, Raz'r said:

Clearly should be shot. Wait, he’s not on American soil. Should we shoot across a border?

Should?

We did. 

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13 minutes ago, Bus Driver said:

Should?

We did. 

which has got to be illegal....

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3 hours ago, VOA said:

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Your kids?

why do you think that your kids have a right to citizenship in australia..because they are your kids?

Why are you so hateful about another women trying to give her kids a better life?

Is it about kids or is it about you? Your precious seed being more valuable than the seed of a brown person.

Why are your kids more precious than hers?

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3 hours ago, Bus Driver said:

Should?

We did. 

Are you guys under the impression that the fence they were assaulting was built exactly on the border?

It is generally many yards from the actual line of demarcation.

 

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1 minute ago, Saorsa said:

Are you guys under the impression that the fence they were assaulting was built exactly on the border?

It is generally many yards from the actual line of demarcation.

 

Keep justifying gassing kids old man.

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1 minute ago, Dog said:

Dupe

Don’t you love the sound of kids crying when gassed? Must make you smile inside.

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Just now, Raz'r said:

Don’t you love the sound of kids crying when gassed? Must make you smile inside.

Fuck you're a dupe. When it comes to this topic you've been wrong about everything.

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16 hours ago, Bent Sailor said:

Despicable what the US has done to those in this humanitarian nightmare. I mean, I never thought I'd see the day that you yanks would justify tear-gassing children, but your president said it was OK and the craven party loyalists follow in lock-step. Truly, reprehensibly, despicable what your nation has done to them.

Yes, totally despicable what some nations do to asylum seekers....

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Don’t suppose you noticed that overall illegal population in the US is down, again. The system is working. It would work better if we invested more in the legal system to process them. In a timely way.

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Just now, SailBlueH2O said:

 

None of your cites have “truth.” Especially ones starting with “The truth about...”

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6 hours ago, Shootist Jeff said:

 Yes, totally despicable what some nations do to asylum seekers....

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Yup. That's despicable. I don't deny that it's despicable, I fight to change that, and I don't justify it.

Would you like to support my point some more or do you think you've rogered yourself enough for the morning?

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On 11/28/2018 at 6:29 AM, Raz'r said:

Don’t you love the sound of kids crying when gassed? Must make you smile inside.

Oh, now we are really getting into the rhythm of it.  Nothing like a wrist tattoo to say "Be Best".

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On 11/28/2018 at 1:53 AM, Bent Sailor said:

Despicable what AUS has done to those in this humanitarian nightmare. I mean, I never thought I'd see the day that we Bogans would justify tear-gassing children, but our Prime Minister said it was OK and the craven party loyalists follow in lock-step. Truly, reprehensibly, despicable what our nation has done to them.

FIFY

Stones, glass houses.  Just saying.

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"TIJUANA, Mexico – After declaring the migrant caravan a “humanitarian crisis” this week, Mayor Juan Manuel Gastélum told Fox News that he can no longer continue to fund the municipal effort to shelter them without federal assistance.

Mayor Gastélum blames the organizers for whom he cannot identify. He said they should be held accountable. He said the leaders of the caravan should face criminal charges.

“Those are the real criminals because they're dealing with the lives of people,” he says".

https://www.foxnews.com/world/tijuana-mayor-vows-to-stop-funding-migrant-caravan-not-going-to-break-public-services-to-solve-this-problem

 

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2 hours ago, Dog said:

"TIJUANA, Mexico – After declaring the migrant caravan a “humanitarian crisis” this week, Mayor Juan Manuel Gastélum told Fox News that he can no longer continue to fund the municipal effort to shelter them without federal assistance.

Mayor Gastélum blames the organizers for whom he cannot identify. He said they should be held accountable. He said the leaders of the caravan should face criminal charges.

“Those are the real criminals because they're dealing with the lives of people,” he says".

https://www.foxnews.com/world/tijuana-mayor-vows-to-stop-funding-migrant-caravan-not-going-to-break-public-services-to-solve-this-problem

 

But, but, there are no organizers, haven't you seen the propoganda?

 

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On 11/29/2018 at 2:22 AM, SailBlueH2O said:

 

Well fuck me, this shit stinks all the way to Australia.

Fucking CIA operation and funding if ever there was one.

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"In one of his first acts in office, Mexican President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador has signed an agreement with his counterparts from three Central American countries to establish a development plan to stem the flow of migrants seeking asylum in the U.S.

The Foreign Ministry said Saturday that the plan includes a fund to generate jobs in the region and aims to attack the structural causes of migration from El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras. Thousands of migrants, mostly Hondurans, have joined caravans in recent weeks in an effort to speed through Mexico to request refuge at the U.S. border.

 Dozens of migrants interviewed by The Associated Press have said they are fleeing poverty and violence in their countries of origin".

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/dec/2/andres-manuel-lopez-obrador-mexicos-new-president-/

 

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On 12/1/2018 at 4:45 PM, Shootist Jeff said:

 FIFY

Stones, glass houses.  Just saying.

So in order to have your "aha, gotcha" moment you need to not only ignore what I said, but make up the opposite position from what I hold. Well done. Your whole "single white female" schtick with Tom progresses on schedule. :rolleyes:

Get back to us when you find me justifying the despicable acts of my country if you want to talk glass houses. The USA acted despicably, Australia has acted despicably. Only one of us is defending &/or trying to deflect from those facts. It's funny how gutless some of you yanks get about acknowledging your country being less than perfect. Almost like your self-esteem rests on what we think about you... which is really depressing.

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I thought the caravan was over now that the republicans lost the house.......

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35 minutes ago, Bent Sailor said:

Almost like your self-esteem rests on what we think about you... which is really depressing.

Don’t be depressed.  I don’t give a fuck what you think of us.

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1 minute ago, J28 said:

Don’t be depressed.  I don’t give a fuck what you think of us.

Good because, until you post stupid shit, we don't think about you at all.

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46 minutes ago, Mrleft8 said:

Good because, until you post stupid shit, we don't think about you at all.

And until people like you quote the little worm, some of us don't know nor care what he's posting at all. 

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1 hour ago, Shootist Jeff said:

AUS who????

It's the nation you care about so much you explicitly comment on it's refugee policy & what you think about it.

Put down the crack-pipe, Princess, it's affecting your short-term memory. ;) 

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2 hours ago, Bent Sailor said:

And until people like you quote the little worm, some of us don't know nor care what he's posting at all. 

Sorry.

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2 minutes ago, SailBlueH2O said:

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You don't see the difference? Really?

"Deportation of illegal aliens who are arrested for crimes" is a bit different from "building concentration camps for children."

Wait until somebody you know is arrested by ICE for being suspected of being an illegal alien.

-DSK

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On 12/2/2018 at 9:29 PM, Mrleft8 said:

Sorry.

You let an Aussie bully you!

Incel

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3 minutes ago, SailBlueH2O said:

Sorry about your friend...if there were not 22,000,000 illegal aliens inside our country we wouldn't need ICE...if your friend/example was carrying proper ID's he probably would not have been arrested......tough shit for the children of illegal aliens in detention/concentration camp/centers....

Can you point to the part of the US Constitution which says, a citizen must carry federally-approved ID on his person at all times, or be subject to arrest & involuntary shipment overseas?

Also, I hope you're not saying you're really in favor of concentration camps for kids

-DSK

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6 minutes ago, SailBlueH2O said:

Sorry about your friend...if there were not 22,000,000 illegal aliens inside our country we wouldn't need ICE...if your friend/example was carrying proper ID's he probably would not have been arrested......tough shit for the children of illegal aliens in detention/concentration camp/centers....

According to Wikipedia, just over 11 million illegals.

1 minute ago, Steam Flyer said:

Can you point to the part of the US Constitution which says, a citizen must carry federally-approved ID on his person at all times, or be subject to arrest & involuntary shipment overseas?

Also, I hope you're not saying you're really in favor of concentration camps for kids

-DSK

Yes he is. He also thinks blacks should be second-class citizens.

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E3s for Irish, deportation, and detention centers for Hondurans..... Makes perfect sense. Lot's of Irish picking lettuce and strawberries in the central valley, and working in construction in Texas....

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1 minute ago, SailBlueH2O said:

not my writing or post

May not be "your writing", but it's your quote from your post. Own it.

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31 minutes ago, Ishmael said:

Byrd was a card-carrying KKK member, he'd fit the new Republican party well.

You quoted it, I called you on it, own it.

He was a Democratic Senator up until he died just 8 years ago.

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4 hours ago, Not guilty said:

This weekend alone, Border Patrol Agents made close to 1,900 arrests throughout the Rio Grande Valley.

Again proving the wall, works.  Thanks for that.

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11 minutes ago, VOA said:

Lefties have to label the enemy 

Byrd provided his own labels.

 

King of Pork being one of them

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3 minutes ago, VOA said:

What wall?

Don't you recall what Trump said?

 

You know:
 

"We don't need a 2,000-mile wall," Trump said Tuesday -- in remarks similar to those he had made in July and again in September -- during bipartisan talks. He'd suggested in those summer comments that the structure needs to be transparent, lest smugglers heave "sacks of drugs over" the top --"60 pounds of stuff" -- and onto unsuspecting American heads.
In addition to possible transparent and fencing portions will be natural barriers already in existence.
"We don't need a wall where you have rivers and mountains and everything else protecting it," Trump added, addressing the roundtable of congressional officials.
"But we do need a wall for a fairly good portion."

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1 minute ago, Raz'r said:

Don't you recall what Trump said?

Oh..... The wall the Mexicans are going to build.....

 Talented masons, and finishers in Mexico. Good idea to have them build it. Hard workers too..... Too bad they'll need visas to build the wall on US land, because Donald   twoface won't let them in to work.

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47 minutes ago, Ishmael said:

Byrd was a card-carrying KKK member, he'd fit the new Republican party well.

You quoted it, I called you on it, own it.

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Byrd is the one on the left.

 

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10 minutes ago, Saorsa said:

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Byrd is the one on the left.

 

Byrd renounced his affiliation with the KKK, and admitted that he'd been a misinformed, and bigoted person in his youth (even into middle age), but came to realize the error of his ways, apologized to the world, and tried to make amends for his actions in the past.

 You seem to have no such inclination.

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21 minutes ago, Mrleft8 said:

Byrd renounced his affiliation with the KKK, and admitted that he'd been a misinformed, and bigoted person in his youth (even into middle age), but came to realize the error of his ways, apologized to the world, and tried to make amends for his actions in the past.

 You seem to have no such inclination.

Of course he did.

 

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Just now, Saorsa said:

Of course he did.

 

And of course you don't.

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So what's being claimed is that the post was just more bullshit whataboutism and not mirroring your thoughts?

Right. Far right.

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18 hours ago, SailBlueH2O said:

I didn't say he was arrested for NOT carrying proper ID, I said if he was he probably would not have been arrested for whatever ,you failed to mention. Concentration camps have a negative connotation  and word association with Nazi concentration camps...we have no such thing...but do have have concentration camps by definition...what do you suggest we do with them?

OK, so there is no requirement to carry federally-accepted ID..... but if you don't have one on your person, you could get arrested? Howzat work?

Are you cheerfully going down the path to chip all citizens, or maybe just tattoo a barcode on everyone?

Yes, concentration camps have a negative connotation. Because they are not nice places; that's why they put armed guards and barbed wire around, to keep people in. But that's what they are. Do you want your gov't to run concentration camps? I don't want mine to do so

-DSK

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15 minutes ago, Steam Flyer said:

OK, so there is no requirement to carry federally-accepted ID..... but if you don't have one on your person, you could get arrested? Howzat work?

Are you cheerfully going down the path to chip all citizens, or maybe just tattoo a barcode on everyone?

Yes, concentration camps have a negative connotation. Because they are not nice places; that's why they put armed guards and barbed wire around, to keep people in. But that's what they are. Do you want your gov't to run concentration camps? I don't want mine to do so

-DSK

In a concentration camp detainees are prevented from leaving. This is not the same thing as a detension center in which detainees are free to leave provided they return to their own country. If you object to these camps, and it seems you do, what do you propose we do with them?

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4 minutes ago, Dog said:

In a concentration camp detainees are prevented from leaving. This is not the same thing as a detension center in which detainees are free to leave provided they return to their own country. If you object to these camps, and it seems you do, what do you propose we do with them?

Oh yes, children under 12 will certainly buy plane tickets on their Mastercards

A few days ago, on another thread, I stated that people who support Trump aren't necessarily stupid. You really undermine that, thanks

-DSK

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1 minute ago, Steam Flyer said:

Oh yes, children under 12 will certainly buy plane tickets on their Mastercards

A few days ago, on another thread, I stated that people who support Trump aren't necessarily stupid. You really undermine that, thanks

-DSK

Stupid is calling them concentration camps. One more time, what do you suggest we do instead?

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9 minutes ago, Dog said:

Stupid is calling them concentration camps. One more time, what do you suggest we do instead?

When it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck...... I call it a fuckin' duck

You're Dog, you lie to make Republicans smell good. Not my problem

-DSK

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9 minutes ago, Steam Flyer said:

When it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck...... I call it a fuckin' duck

You're Dog, you lie to make Republicans smell good. Not my problem

-DSK

They're not concentration camps and it's a lie to call them that. What do you suggest we do instead?

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3 hours ago, Dog said:

They're not concentration camps and it's a lie to call them that. What do you suggest we do instead?

You've ignored the proposed solutions before. Why should we play your games now?

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4 hours ago, Dog said:

In a concentration camp detainees are prevented from leaving. This is not the same thing as a detension center in which detainees are free to leave provided they return to their own country. If you object to these camps, and it seems you do, what do you propose we do with them?

A detension center? Is that like a relaxation spa?

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11 minutes ago, Raz'r said:

You've ignored the proposed solutions before. Why should we play your games now?

No...I don't believe I've seen anyone offer an alternative to detension centers. What alternatives have been proposed?

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2 minutes ago, Ishmael said:

A detension center? Is that like a relaxation spa?

No.

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Internment camps  has a nice ring to it..... Kind of..... Oriental sounding, in a way......

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On 12/5/2018 at 9:16 AM, Dog said:

No...I don't believe I've seen anyone offer an alternative to detension centers. What alternatives have been proposed?

Follow US law.

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On 12/5/2018 at 1:53 PM, Mrleft8 said:

Internment camps  has a nice ring to it..... Kind of..... Oriental sounding, in a way......

Especially since interns work cheap or free even.

 

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On 12/5/2018 at 12:16 PM, Dog said:

No...I don't believe I've seen anyone offer an alternative to detension centers. What alternatives have been proposed?

I was thinking 'consular encampment' in the space between the actual border and the wall.

The wall could have a pass-thorough from a Taco Bell carryout.

 

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"Two groups of Central American migrants made separate marches on the U.S. Consulate in Tijuana Tuesday, demanding that they be processed through the asylum system more quickly and in greater numbers, that deportations be halted and that President Trump either let them into the country or pay them $50,000 each to go home".

You get that... they claim to qualify for asylum based on real personal danger in their homeland but give them each $50,000 and it all good.

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/border-baja-california/sd-me-migrant-demands-12122018-story.html

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On 12/5/2018 at 7:57 AM, Steam Flyer said:

When it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck...... I call it a fuckin' duck

You're Dog, you lie to make Republicans smell good. Not my problem

-DSK

Focus on the positives and say nice things. Dog is more honest and has more integrity than the President of the United States. 

In 20 years or so, that statement will sound like an endorsement...for those willing to conceal context. 

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3 minutes ago, Sol Rosenberg said:
On 12/5/2018 at 7:57 AM, Steam Flyer said:

When it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck...... I call it a fuckin' duck

You're Dog, you lie to make Republicans smell good. Not my problem

-DSK

Focus on the positives and say nice things. Dog is more honest and has more integrity than the President of the United States. 

In 20 years or so, that statement will sound like an endorsement...for those willing to conceal context. 

Speaking of outdated memes..... the saying should be something like "if it's DNA assay is consistent with ducks to the 0.00001%ile, then I call it a motherfuckin' duck"

You're right about being honest while concealing context. But enough about little ol' me, let's get back to talkin' Dog

-DSK

 

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"Another migrant caravan — this one estimated at 15,000 people — is preparing to leave Honduras on Jan. 15, according to migrant rights advocates and Spanish-language media.

“They say they are even bigger and stronger than the last caravan,” said Irma Garrido, a member of the migrant advocacy group Reactiva Tijuana Foundation".

https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-new-migrant-caravan-20181227-story.html

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Just now, Dog said:

"Another migrant caravan — this one estimated at 15,000 people — is preparing to leave Honduras on Jan. 15, according to migrant rights advocates and Spanish-language media.

“They say they are even bigger and stronger than the last caravan,” said Irma Garrido, a member of the migrant advocacy group Reactiva Tijuana Foundation".

https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-new-migrant-caravan-20181227-story.html

Oh boy! Time to get scared! Almost as good as “Ebola, the Sequel!”

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Just now, Raz'r said:

Oh boy! Time to get scared! Almost as good as “Ebola, the Sequel!”

These caravans seem to pop up whenever Trump is making the case for better border security. It's almost as if he's behind them.

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4 minutes ago, Dog said:

These caravans seem to pop up whenever Trump is making the case for better border security. It's almost as if he's behind them.

When he needs something to distract the faithful - Locker her up has lost it's luster, build the wall is about the only arrow left in his little quiver.  He has now twittered he will shut down the border entirely, blah blah blah.  This really is not going to end well and the ensuing meltdown by the faithful is going to be sad.

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8 minutes ago, Dog said:

These caravans seem to pop up whenever Trump is making the case for better border security. It's almost as if he's behind them.

Welcome to the club.

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It's called a caravan dodge......

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1 hour ago, Raz'r said:

Welcome to the club.

No... I'm not in the club that believes shit like Trump is behind the caravans. I'll leave that foolishness to the likes of you and random.

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8 minutes ago, Dog said:

No... I'm not in the club that believes shit like Trump is behind the caravans. I'll leave that foolishness to the likes of you and random.

hahahaha

don't worry, Trump will so destroy the economy that no-one will want to live in the US

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Just now, SailBlueH2O said:

 

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what a liar

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Ahh, look at that, grump's got sand in his VJ again.

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16 hours ago, Dog said:

These caravans seem to pop up whenever Trump is making the case for better border security. It's almost as if he's behind them.

Funny thing is, were that to be the case, you'd find a way to defend him.

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