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From FareVela, the boat’s name Salamander harks back to a famous Dutch warship of the XVIIth century - apart from the Jesus lizard

FV also notes, not without reason, that the Dutch logo is much too similar to Il Moro’s

 

 

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I just think it's great that Chief Hopper has got his dream of a AC sailing team up and running. He's had quite a traumatic year with everything that's gone down in Hawkins and he deserves this. 

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Chief Hopper knows nothing of what is really going on in the Lowlands.

My cloggie source who is very much in the know, tells me that an arbitration panel will be convened in the next few days. Trouble already, anyone knows?

 

 

 

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Well the America's Cup has historically  been quite lucrative for lawyers

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Obvious choice for builder in the Netherlands is Holland Composites / &DNA. Great experience in building and developing cutting edge foiling boats.

They collaborate a lot with Mischa Heemskerk as well, who would be another obvious addition to the team.

 

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There hasn't been built a serious raceboat in the Netherlands since the ABN Amro Volvo 70's  though, and those where built by Killian Busche and his team.  Anything built so far in the Netherlands is either quite crude in comparison or has been seriously overweight. But yes, Holland composites is a great company, and might be able to pull it off. An other option is Rondal, they have people experienced with raceboats, but are as a company more builders of rigs and components.  The aerospace guys from Fokker and airborne might be a safer bet though, as they have more experience in tight tolerances and quality control. (But could they even build a boat?)

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But does anyone else have similar experience in foils and their control systems ?

I think that’s the area where their expertise is particularly relevant

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11 minutes ago, Varan said:

In case you missed it, Simeon is in Auckland checking out where their base will be.

https://www.sail-world.com/news/214699/Americas-Cup-team-proceeding-in-spite-of-dispute

Love the optimism, and Carolijn too.

Gladwell has his knockers, haters and critics here but I, for one, am glad he's on the case and keeping us current with stuff from the home of the next AC series that local media should be covering -- and isn't!

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Yawn - same script as previous umpteen wannabe contestants, that then fizzled away. Surprised ETNZ’s wasting everybody’s time

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On 2/19/2019 at 2:10 AM, Xlot said:

Yawn - same script as previous umpteen wannabe contestants, that then fizzled away. Surprised ETNZ’s wasting everybody’s time

Don't yawn too long or too often.  The pieces are falling into place.  The latest with today's Protocol amendment and solidarity announcement by Challenger and Defender. Of course the Dutch still need a big pile of the Green Stuff.  That could be their downfall.

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51 minutes ago, KiwiJoker said:

Don't yawn too long or too often.  The pieces are falling into place.  The latest with today's Protocol amendment and solidarity announcement by Challenger and Defender. Of course the Dutch still need a big pile of the Green Stuff.  That could be their downfall.

Green?

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3 minutes ago, IPLore said:

Green?

 

 

Well he specifically said 'green stuff', which when it comes to the Dutch must mean...

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Nothing beats Dutch optimism. Their promo video is quite funny. Look out New Zealand, The Dutch are coming.! It's not the boat that wins it's the team.! I would say if Ian Percy get's the nod for the Malta Challenge and puts his team together they will be ahead of the Dutch. Great to see a Dutch team though and if you believe in Santa Claus the Dutch can win the Americas Cup. Seriously though I hope they do well..!

 

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At least portions of the control systems will likely not be developed by the boat building company, be that Holland Composites or another one.  HC has built multihull boats with rudder controls, foils controls, etc but I would think the AC level would warrant separate specialists.  I hope they get the build.

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I thought the standard operating procedure was for the defender to pay for cash-strapped teams. We should ask ourselves, what would Larry have done?

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May be Larry could buy a few of these certificates? Perhaps Ernesto could buy some as well?

"The bump is the amount that we have to undertake in terms of obligations. "

I wonder what obligations he's referring to? The Reg fee? Performance bond? Design package? They look to be trying to raise 2.4 million euros with these certs, which in itself is not a huge amount with respect to an AC campaign, but it does seem very strange. I think the odds of these guys making the start line just blew out considerably. It might be dawning on a few people why the Dutch have never been in the AC before. They can't raise the cash.

 

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21 hours ago, Colomba said:

Doesn't look promising.. With just seven days before the funds have to hit the NZ bank, a desperate all-hands-to-the-pumps appeal!

"Behind the scenes we are feverishly securing the financing of the entire campaign. With governments, in the maritime sector, with the knowledge and innovation partner, and with institutions, funds, founding fathers and with private individuals. All in all it looks great, but what we can now use well is that a large group of private individuals say: I am participating now. I sign up for DutchSail certificates! We want to give that final boost with a large group of enthusiastic private individuals. Yes, those individuals are going to make the difference."

 

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Looking for some comments on the (very last minute) crowdfunding campaign, I spotted this rather unbelievable statement from Simeon Tienpont, in Clubracer

In Dutch:  https://www.clubracer.be/2019/3/21/simeon-tienpont-we-hebben-harde-deadline-1-april

Slightly redacted google translate of 1st April joke:

Clubracer: The Netherlands does not have data, which is why last month's visit to New Zealand by Simeon and managing director Eelco Blok was a key moment for  the campaign.

Simeon: “We found a partner in the kiwis here about that data. Until February 2021 we have an open data agreement with the New Zealand team about the design of the boat. ”

 
 
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I think most people doubted the Dutch announcement from day one and questioned Simeon's credentials. This latest news re funding only fuels the fire IMO. Let's be realistic I would like too know what Simeon is going to pay himself? 

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He's gonna sink some lead, slipped there I mean gold, into the endeavour.

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