Xlot 66 #101 Posted January 29 From FareVela, the boat’s name Salamander harks back to a famous Dutch warship of the XVIIth century - apart from the Jesus lizard FV also notes, not without reason, that the Dutch logo is much too similar to Il Moro’s Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RobG 74 #102 Posted January 31 Carolijn Brouwer is to be the helm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tornado-Cat 88 #103 Posted January 31 1 hour ago, RobG said: Carolijn Brouwer is to be the helm. The best would have been, and by far, Mischa Heemskerk 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mozzy Sails 61 #104 Posted January 31 I just think it's great that Chief Hopper has got his dream of a AC sailing team up and running. He's had quite a traumatic year with everything that's gone down in Hawkins and he deserves this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fiji Bitter 750 #105 Posted February 1 Chief Hopper knows nothing of what is really going on in the Lowlands. My cloggie source who is very much in the know, tells me that an arbitration panel will be convened in the next few days. Trouble already, anyone knows? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barfy 102 #106 Posted February 1 The best lawyers, and the fastest boats. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeedAClew 42 #107 Posted February 1 Well the America's Cup has historically been quite lucrative for lawyers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alphafb552 51 #108 Posted February 5 Obvious choice for builder in the Netherlands is Holland Composites / &DNA. Great experience in building and developing cutting edge foiling boats. They collaborate a lot with Mischa Heemskerk as well, who would be another obvious addition to the team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johannos 0 #109 Posted February 5 There hasn't been built a serious raceboat in the Netherlands since the ABN Amro Volvo 70's though, and those where built by Killian Busche and his team. Anything built so far in the Netherlands is either quite crude in comparison or has been seriously overweight. But yes, Holland composites is a great company, and might be able to pull it off. An other option is Rondal, they have people experienced with raceboats, but are as a company more builders of rigs and components. The aerospace guys from Fokker and airborne might be a safer bet though, as they have more experience in tight tolerances and quality control. (But could they even build a boat?) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alphafb552 51 #110 Posted February 5 But does anyone else have similar experience in foils and their control systems ? I think that’s the area where their expertise is particularly relevant Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Varan 427 #111 Posted February 17 In case you missed it, Simeon is in Auckland checking out where their base will be. https://www.sail-world.com/news/214699/Americas-Cup-team-proceeding-in-spite-of-dispute Love the optimism, and Carolijn too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KiwiJoker 56 #112 Posted February 18 11 minutes ago, Varan said: In case you missed it, Simeon is in Auckland checking out where their base will be. https://www.sail-world.com/news/214699/Americas-Cup-team-proceeding-in-spite-of-dispute Love the optimism, and Carolijn too. Gladwell has his knockers, haters and critics here but I, for one, am glad he's on the case and keeping us current with stuff from the home of the next AC series that local media should be covering -- and isn't! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xlot 66 #113 Posted February 18 Yawn - same script as previous umpteen wannabe contestants, that then fizzled away. Surprised ETNZ’s wasting everybody’s time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Varan 427 #114 Posted March 4 Gotta love Carolijn... https://www.newsroom.co.nz/@lockerroom/2019/03/04/470579/the-woman-steering-towards-americas-cup-history Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KiwiJoker 56 #115 Posted March 5 On 2/19/2019 at 2:10 AM, Xlot said: Yawn - same script as previous umpteen wannabe contestants, that then fizzled away. Surprised ETNZ’s wasting everybody’s time Don't yawn too long or too often. The pieces are falling into place. The latest with today's Protocol amendment and solidarity announcement by Challenger and Defender. Of course the Dutch still need a big pile of the Green Stuff. That could be their downfall. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IPLore 203 #116 Posted March 5 51 minutes ago, KiwiJoker said: Don't yawn too long or too often. The pieces are falling into place. The latest with today's Protocol amendment and solidarity announcement by Challenger and Defender. Of course the Dutch still need a big pile of the Green Stuff. That could be their downfall. Green? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rh2600 182 #117 Posted March 5 3 minutes ago, IPLore said: Green? Well he specifically said 'green stuff', which when it comes to the Dutch must mean... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
terrafirma 289 #118 Posted March 5 Nothing beats Dutch optimism. Their promo video is quite funny. Look out New Zealand, The Dutch are coming.! It's not the boat that wins it's the team.! I would say if Ian Percy get's the nod for the Malta Challenge and puts his team together they will be ahead of the Dutch. Great to see a Dutch team though and if you believe in Santa Claus the Dutch can win the Americas Cup. Seriously though I hope they do well..! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lost in Translation 16 #119 Posted March 7 At least portions of the control systems will likely not be developed by the boat building company, be that Holland Composites or another one. HC has built multihull boats with rudder controls, foils controls, etc but I would think the AC level would warrant separate specialists. I hope they get the build. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Colomba 19 #120 Posted Saturday at 11:55 AM https://www.zeilen.nl/nieuws/help-nederland-naar-americas-cup/?fbclid=IwAR2QmCXr9iTGNuxWhEsK3pxEXHSbCWRWYXOa--UaY5hapqIsltMeskrfirA Crowdfunded AC challenge? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horn Rock 76 #122 Posted Saturday at 02:44 PM 20 minutes ago, NeedAClew said: OMG. Oh my God indeed..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogwatch 258 #123 Posted Saturday at 03:28 PM I thought the standard operating procedure was for the defender to pay for cash-strapped teams. We should ask ourselves, what would Larry have done? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fiji Bitter 750 #124 Posted Saturday at 03:40 PM This says it all: Tienpont: “We starten pas met innen na 1 april, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horn Rock 76 #125 Posted Saturday at 05:23 PM May be Larry could buy a few of these certificates? Perhaps Ernesto could buy some as well? "The bump is the amount that we have to undertake in terms of obligations. " I wonder what obligations he's referring to? The Reg fee? Performance bond? Design package? They look to be trying to raise 2.4 million euros with these certs, which in itself is not a huge amount with respect to an AC campaign, but it does seem very strange. I think the odds of these guys making the start line just blew out considerably. It might be dawning on a few people why the Dutch have never been in the AC before. They can't raise the cash. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rskiff 10 #126 Posted Saturday at 07:57 PM Sailing Anarchys' AC fund that was raised years ago could be contibuted perhaps! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KiwiJoker 56 #127 Posted yesterday at 09:19 AM 21 hours ago, Colomba said: https://www.zeilen.nl/nieuws/help-nederland-naar-americas-cup/?fbclid=IwAR2QmCXr9iTGNuxWhEsK3pxEXHSbCWRWYXOa--UaY5hapqIsltMeskrfirA Crowdfunded AC challenge? Doesn't look promising.. With just seven days before the funds have to hit the NZ bank, a desperate all-hands-to-the-pumps appeal! "Behind the scenes we are feverishly securing the financing of the entire campaign. With governments, in the maritime sector, with the knowledge and innovation partner, and with institutions, funds, founding fathers and with private individuals. All in all it looks great, but what we can now use well is that a large group of private individuals say: I am participating now. I sign up for DutchSail certificates! We want to give that final boost with a large group of enthusiastic private individuals. Yes, those individuals are going to make the difference." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fiji Bitter 750 #128 Posted yesterday at 11:19 AM Looking for some comments on the (very last minute) crowdfunding campaign, I spotted this rather unbelievable statement from Simeon Tienpont, in Clubracer In Dutch: https://www.clubracer.be/2019/3/21/simeon-tienpont-we-hebben-harde-deadline-1-april Slightly redacted google translate of 1st April joke: Clubracer: The Netherlands does not have data, which is why last month's visit to New Zealand by Simeon and managing director Eelco Blok was a key moment for the campaign. Simeon: “We found a partner in the kiwis here about that data. Until February 2021 we have an open data agreement with the New Zealand team about the design of the boat. ” J Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
terrafirma 289 #129 Posted 17 hours ago I think most people doubted the Dutch announcement from day one and questioned Simeon's credentials. This latest news re funding only fuels the fire IMO. Let's be realistic I would like too know what Simeon is going to pay himself? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barfy 102 #130 Posted 11 hours ago He's gonna sink some lead, slipped there I mean gold, into the endeavour. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCARECROW 75 #131 Posted 8 hours ago I’d really like to think this was a joke at their expense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
