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Richard Painter says Trump needs to resign

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Whoa! Richard Painter, GW's ethics lawyer (is that a contradiction in terms?) says that Trump should negotiate a plea and get out now.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/richard-painter-trump-way-out_us_5c11ca15e4b0449012f67e3c

“Donald Trump is in serious trouble. His lawyers ought to be telling him to negotiate a plea deal,” Painter said. “Get him out of the White House. Have him resign, plead guilty to lower charges and let’s move on as a country.” 

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No way. Not until Foxy News leaves him. That won’t happen unless he switches parties. 

Expect some full on distraction and lots of barking about Hillary. 

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There was an interesting interview on NPR this morning with former Republican Senator William Cohen (he was also Secretary of Defense under Clinton) who said that the Senate (meaning MitchCo) needs to rein in Trump because the route we're on "leads to tyranny or fascism."

It's getting real when even team R. is turning against their own White House.

 

I wonder how Doggy will style this?

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4 minutes ago, Remodel said:

There was an interesting interview on NPR this morning with former Republican Senator William Cohen (he was also Secretary of Defense under Clinton) who said that the Senate (meaning MitchCo) needs to rein in Trump because the route we're on "leads to tyranny or fascism."

It's getting real when even team R. is turning against their own White House.

 

I wonder how Doggy will style this?

 

Leads to???  We are halfway there when the Dolt 45 says he will shut down the government if he doesn't get his ridiculous wall!!

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17 minutes ago, billy backstay said:

Can't happen soon enough!!

But won't happen, Trump is incapable of admitting defeat and certainly not on something this important to his self-image. The only way he leaves is if his 'health' makes it impossible for him to carry on. Bone spurs won't do it this time but he needs something to blame.

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11 minutes ago, Bristol-Cruiser said:
31 minutes ago, billy backstay said:

Can't happen soon enough!!

But won't happen, Trump is incapable of admitting defeat and certainly not on something this important to his self-image. The only way he leaves is if his 'health' makes it impossible for him to carry on. Bone spurs won't do it this time but he needs something to blame.

Agree

He'll just say he's tired of winning. But the real key here is whether the Republican Senate turns on him. As long as Senator McConnell is propping him up, he truly -IS- bulletproof..... just not novichuk-proof. Once McConnell tells him that he's become a liability and his credit line is closed, he's out. Although he might just be egotistical/unhinged enough to try and find some generals to proclaim him "President For Eternity" but after what happened to Flynn and Kelley that might be a very small field.

He might resign and then announce he's running in 2020. He's got a lot of made-in-China GO TRUMP! merch to unload to the MAGA-ettes

-DSK

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He will not leave for the good of the country. Until it starts costing him money, prestige, or power he will stay. As soon as it starts costing real money, he will file a law suit saying the office of the presidency was misrepresented to him, and he is seeking damages of 2.9 Billion dollars.

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Bill Cohen is an example of the kind of Republican who, for all practical purposes, no longer exists. Moderate and principled.

Trump will turn in his keys when Hannity turns on him.

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"the end is near".  Every time I read an article about Donnie' s current demeanor, I think back to the reports on Nixon just before he resigned.  

 

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1 minute ago, Snore said:

"the end is near".  Every time I read an article about Donnie' s current demeanor, I think back to the reports on Nixon just before he resigned.  

 

And it's been that way for about a year and a half.

-DSK

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Just now, Steam Flyer said:

And it's been that way for about a year and a half.

-DSK

 

Kinda feel he's gone into the shitter in the past 2 months.  Hell- he didn't even comment on Cohen's sentencing- not during a executive order signing or twitter.  While I do NOT follow him on twitter, it looks like his tweets per day rate is down. 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Snore said:
5 minutes ago, Steam Flyer said:

And it's been that way for about a year and a half.

 

Kinda feel he's gone into the shitter in the past 2 months.  Hell- he didn't even comment on Cohen's sentencing- not during a executive order signing or twitter.  While I do NOT follow him on twitter, it looks like his tweets per day rate is down. 

I only know about his tweets from the news and seeing them here.

But it does seem like he's been on a downward trend, his public performances are fewer and loonier (although his inauguration speech really set the bar for public bizarro ranting).

-DSK

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1 hour ago, billy backstay said:

Leads to???  We are halfway there when the Dolt 45 says he will shut down the government if he doesn't get his ridiculous wall!!

I don't recall any other President saying they would shut down the government.  Did one?

Sure, they engaged in the silly and protracted charade that resulted in a shutdown, and (like Congress) pointed the finger and placed blame elsewhere.

But, actually stating he will do it seems new.  Some may find that type of unpolished non-politician type speech to be "refreshing".  I find it repugnant.

I believe he sees a potential shutdown as a win that will be popular with the people.  No doubt the "burn this bitch down" will applaud.

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7 minutes ago, Bus Driver said:

I believe he sees a potential shutdown as a win that will be popular with the people.  No doubt the "burn this bitch down" will applaud.

Popular right up to the point when people discover that their lives are affected.  I remember (vaguely) one shutdown where folks discovered that the only way to get passports renewed was to go to an issuing center in person, stand in a long line for hours, and pay some exorbitant fee.  Enthusiasm for a government shutdown waned rapidly.

There was a great old cartoon from 20 or so years ago.  Shows a guy sitting on the roof of his 2 story house with flood waters all around him.  A motor boat with the letters FEMA on the side arrives.  Guy on the roof says "Thank God,  a government bureaucrat."  But buried in the floodwaters are signs like"get the government off our backs," "down with FEMA."

Shutting down "the government" sounds attractive in theory.  In practice, not so much.

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7 minutes ago, jerseyguy said:

Popular right up to the point when people discover that their lives are affected.  I remember (vaguely) one shutdown where folks discovered that the only way to get passports renewed was to go to an issuing center in person, stand in a long line for hours, and pay some exorbitant fee.  Enthusiasm for a government shutdown waned rapidly.

There was a great old cartoon from 20 or so years ago.  Shows a guy sitting on the roof of his 2 story house with flood waters all around him.  A motor boat with the letters FEMA on the side arrives.  Guy on the roof says "Thank God,  a government bureaucrat."  But buried in the floodwaters are signs like"get the government off our backs," "down with FEMA."

Shutting down "the government" sounds attractive in theory.  In practice, not so much.

Damned socialists want somebody to do everything for them!

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1 hour ago, Bristol-Cruiser said:

he needs something to blame.

spot on the money .

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If it looks like a real R challenge for 2020, he may NEED that plea deal to avoid the clink.

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1 hour ago, Snore said:

"the end is near".  Every time I read an article about Donnie' s current demeanor, I think back to the reports on Nixon just before he resigned.  

 

It is starting to feel a bit more like Nixon, although Dickie was a damn site smarter than Donnie - although that is not hard to accomplish.

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3 hours ago, Remodel said:

There was an interesting interview on NPR this morning with former Republican Senator William Cohen (he was also Secretary of Defense under Clinton) who said that the Senate (meaning MitchCo) needs to rein in Trump because the route we're on "leads to tyranny or fascism."

It's getting real when even team R. is turning against their own White House.

 

I wonder how Doggy will style this?

By talking about Clinton. Team R is terrified of the Twitter and wrath of the Faithful for disloyalty. Dissent is akin to hugging Obama. Good Americans will remain in the fold. 

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Not a chance.

"Apres Moi, Le Deluge" is the only way he'll go.

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