F1 2019 and E too

[vibroman 110]

That Time again. Why not include Formula E in here too. 

Ferrari revealing  Feb 15

Racing point (force india) Feb 13 at Toronto Motorshow

Questions of the year

How will Kubica hold up?

Will Vettel spit the dummy when lecerc pushes him

Will RBR be any  quicker more reliable with Honda.

Is this the year that Renault are baaaaack

Will Kimi bring Sauber to the top end of the grid

Will driving for daddy's team help LS be a better  driver?

 

Only 59 sleeps till Barcelona  !!

Liked the formula E thing... need to dump fan boost and develop attack mode more. Maybe its just because I am new to it but the liveries were not real distinctive.

 

[animeproblem 211]

Good job being "E" inclusive" I must confess never watched but considering if I suddenly became wealthy enough to replace the creaking antique 94 escort "E" is my first choice (& this coming from a guy that has owned 69 & 70 Road Runners!).

[derelicte 23]

could this be the year ferrari claims at least one title? I hope so! I'm hoping some new blood will invigorate them. 

[Soley 37]

Just watched the First Formula E on Youtube for the 2018/19 season.

Lots of good things, I forgot how much it reminds me of Indycar Street racing.

Racing was generally good it was nice to see that rubbing doesn't equal demolition of the car and immediately being taken out. 

Reverse gear actually works! Being able to easily back out of a minor incident is key, one of the biggest annoyances of F1 is that they rarely use reverse.

Attack mode is good, although lasts too long. 

 

Timing and scoring needs work, not enough time info. Who cares about battery life until the last 10 minutes of the race.

Team colors need work. More block colors needed, too much black. 

Fan boost has to go. Far too arbitrary based on well known drivers and not their on track performance for the day.

Penalties were bullshit as well. JEV and Lotterer given penalties for harvesting too much brake regeneration? WTF

Also Massa being penalised for using Fanboost at the wrong time and using too much. How is this even possible. Pretty simple programming by the FIA to not even make this an issue. Then giving him a point on his license for a technical issue?? That is just dumb.

FE is likely to be a great series but stinks way too much of the old guard at the FIA.

 

[anthonyvop 4]

12 hours ago, Soley said:

Just watched the First Formula E on Youtube for the 2018/19 season.

Lots of good things, I forgot how much it reminds me of Indycar Street racing.

FE is likely to be a great series but stinks way too much of the old guard at the FIA.

 

You mean slow and spec?

[derelicte 23]

I don't think the penalties are necessarily a bad thing. The are limits to everything on the car and some teams violated them. It is just with all the logging they do it is easier to catch. In a couple of instances the penalties appeared due to either be software bugs or conditions they hadn't covered yet. Or maybe not. 

The fan boost is too artificial and easily gamed imo. I guess I see how they are trying engage the fans more, but I don't agree with the approach.

I forgot about the commentators, too. I thought they were boring. The kept talking over the radio and there there was a lot of dead air.

[Soley 37]

9 hours ago, anthonyvop said:

You mean slow and spec?

More the spec aspect that speed. Its not F1 it's not going to be as fast you have to accept that. Also that roll hoop jjust makes the cars look odd. Also what is the light inside the hoop for?? 

The commentating did suck balls. Sounds like no prep work was put into it.

[derelicte 23]

you mean the lights on the halo? they can represent different modes. for example, attack mode:

I think there is fan boost mode too.

Of all the halo implementations, I think fe does it best.

 

[Soley 37]

I get the fanboost (still bullshit) and attack mode that lightup the halo but inside the roll hoop behind the driver there is a small light. I saw it go yellow for a full course yellow flag but no clue what else its for. Also is it glowing yellow to notify drivers of the course yellow or the spectators.

[derelicte 23]

oh. f1 cars have a light to alert corner workers if the car is safe to approach. maybe this is the same thing?

http://www.racecar-engineering.com/technology-explained/f1-2014-explained-what-are-the-lights-on-the-roll-hoop-for/

 

[Innocent Bystander 839]

4 hours ago, Soley said:

More the spec aspect that speed. Its not F1 it's not going to be as fast you have to accept that. Also that roll hoop jjust makes the cars look odd. Also what is the light inside the hoop for?? 

The commentating did suck balls. Sounds like no prep work was put into it.

I think a big part of it is that the manufacturers put a lot of pressure on FIA to contain costs.  So we get all weather (well, all condition) tires that have to last all day, limited cameras and a small production staff.  There is no side show with a couple of car races going on" as there is in F-1 or even Indycar.   Hopefully, that will improve as the series gains more interest.  

[Soley 37]

I said it reminds me of Indy Car, while I don't watch it, I don't hate it. 

I understand that this is a power train development Formula and I quite like that. Outside of power train there should be tight cost control.

I do think that they are hurting themselves by using the all weather tires although I am sure you would see the same lock ups and torque swerves but at higher speeds with slicks.

 

 

[derelicte 23]

I too wish they had dry and wet tires. But the multipurpose also keep costs down as well as eliminate the need for pit stops.

[Soley 37]

1 hour ago, derelicte said:

oh. f1 cars have a light to alert corner workers if the car is safe to approach. maybe this is the same thing?

http://www.racecar-engineering.com/technology-explained/f1-2014-explained-what-are-the-lights-on-the-roll-hoop-for/

 

Maybe it is the same thing and it may have that function but I don't think that is the primary use.

[Soley 37]

5 minutes ago, derelicte said:

I too wish they had dry and wet tires. But the multipurpose also keep costs down as well as eliminate the need for pit stops.

Why does there need to be pitstops? If there is a chance of rain, cars race on Wets, if no rain cars race on slicks. FIA makes the decision half an hour before racing always erring on the side of caution.

[derelicte 23]

I guess they could do that. 

[vibroman 110]

On 12/18/2018 at 10:40 AM, Soley said:

 

Racing was generally good it was nice to see that rubbing doesn't equal demolition of the car and immediately being taken out. 

 

I think that was one of the better things. Plenty of close quarter stuff added to the spice. 

Track was pretty Narrow too.  Which helped

[vibroman 110]

2 hours ago, Soley said:

Why does there need to be pitstops? If there is a chance of rain, cars race on Wets, if no rain cars race on slicks. FIA makes the decision half an hour before racing always erring on the side of caution.

Pit stops add to the strategy game which is kind of missing in this format. I get that that will add significantly to the cost though

[Meat Wad 533]

Give it a break, The New Year aint even started yet.

 

[Soley 37]

3 hours ago, vibroman said:

Pit stops add to the strategy game which is kind of missing in this format. I get that that will add significantly to the cost though

In a 45 minute race I don't think that there is a need to have a pit stop and the strategy that goes along with it.

Thinking back it was quite interesting when one of the drivers went for but missed the attack mode activation zone. And then the tactial use of attack right at the end. Maybe the attack activation zone could be harder to access. Also pretty good strategy of when to use it.

[Rain Man 744]

7 hours ago, Soley said:

Why does there need to be pitstops? If there is a chance of rain, cars race on Wets, if no rain cars race on slicks. FIA makes the decision half an hour before racing always erring on the side of caution.

One can imagine that in a few years the cars will be able to run for a lot more than 45 minutes at a time, and making tires that can last that long may not be in the sport's interest.  Changing tires makes the racing more strategic and that is why it is done in F1.  However, it is not as environmentally sound, so unless they have found a way to completely recycle the tires it would defeat the purpose of FE.

[Mohammed Bin Lyin 71]

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F1 - Formula E ’slower than Formula Ford’ - Hamilton "I hope at least in my time it’s always going to be a fuel car" Lewis Hamilton says he is not interested in Formula E because of the lack of petrol power, sound and speed. Formula E is gaining in popularity and current McLaren driver Stoffel Vandoorne will drive for the new works Mercedes team in the forthcoming season. "It’s great to see all the top brands - Audi, BMW, Mercedes - all heavily investing, but it’s a difficult one because I’m conflicted," said five time world champion Hamilton. "The gasses we emit with our cars are not particularly helpful, so on one side that’s a concern but on the other side, I’m a petrol head. "I hope at least in my time it’s always going to be a fuel car with at least some sort of V-shaped engine with some sort of sound," the Mercedes driver added. Hamilton also said F1 and Formula E don’t compare in terms of performance. "Maybe in five, ten years. But the technology that we have, it’s quite far advanced compared to them. They’re slower than Formula Ford at the moment so they’ve got a long way to catch the speed of a formula one car," he added. Red Bull driver Max Verstappen agrees with Hamilton, insisting he will be one of the people vying to "buy the last barrels of oil in the world". https://motorsport.nextgen-auto.com/Formula-E-slower-than-Formula-Ford-Hamilton,132660.html

 

I think Honda will improve next year they have copied the split turbo pioneered by Mercedes, lots of benefits with that configuration main one being cooler intake temps allowing leaner mixtures which is fairly important with limited fuel capacity.

 

[vibroman 110]

Renault not revealing DR's new ride until the fist day of testing.

Fernando bored already? Talks with McLaren about a testing role https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/mclaren-talks-alonso-2019-test/4315345/

[Chris in Santa Cruz, CA 373]

On 12/19/2018 at 1:49 PM, Soley said:

I said it reminds me of Indy Car, while I don't watch it, I don't hate it. 

I understand that this is a power train development Formula and I quite like that. Outside of power train there should be tight cost control.

I do think that they are hurting themselves by using the all weather tires although I am sure you would see the same lock ups and torque swerves but at higher speeds with slicks.

 

 

Indy car is coming back up to the level competition wise it was before Tony George shat in its hat. Its worth a check out next year. If Alonso and Massa signed up for full time rides that series would take off even more. Alexander Rossi put the hammer down last year and drove some incredible races like he was driving a different car. Lots of full lap in car stuff when the drivers are driving quali like laps in the race. Just wish they would pitch the refueling but maybe thats hard with ethanol.

[derelicte 23]

Arrivabene is out at ferrari:

https://www.planetf1.com/news/binotto-to-replace-arrivabene-as-ferrari-boss/

Too bad as I kind of liked him. He definitely has passion and I'm not sure both losses were really his fault, but they don't fire drivers at ferrari, just team principals so I guess he had to go.

 

[vibroman 110]

Not sure Binotto is the answer either. Always struck me a good behind the scenes guy not necessarily the figurehead.

Only 42 sleeps till testing

 

 

 

[Marcjsmith 402]

On 12/20/2018 at 7:13 PM, Chris in Santa Cruz, CA said:

 Just wish they would pitch the refueling but maybe thats hard with ethanol.

everyone has to fill up, the fill rate is determined by indy so all cars fill at the same rate... if a driver can save fuel and end up with a quicker stop,  potential advantage on the course...

bring back fuel stops in F1.  let em burn as much fuel as they want....

[Chris in Santa Cruz, CA 373]

3 hours ago, Marcjsmith said:

everyone has to fill up, the fill rate is determined by indy so all cars fill at the same rate... if a driver can save fuel and end up with a quicker stop,  potential advantage on the course...

bring back fuel stops in F1.  let em burn as much fuel as they want....

I agree there's some strategy and driver skill involved in this but the combo with the safety car is really bad sport at times for me anyway.

[Marcjsmith 402]

2 hours ago, Chris in Santa Cruz, CA said:

I agree there's some strategy and driver skill involved in this but the combo with the safety car is really bad sport at times for me anyway.

if there is a bad enough accident,  you gotta slow the cars down somehow to protect the course workers.

Iguess you could  put some sort of radio control throttle on the cars so that way race control could slow them all down the same amount and no one gains any advantage.

[Trovão 436]

57 minutes ago, Marcjsmith said:

if there is a bad enough accident,  you gotta slow the cars down somehow to protect the course workers.

Iguess you could  put some sort of radio control throttle on the cars so that way race control could slow them all down the same amount and no one gains any advantage.

while at that, you could completely remove the pilots and have all the cars to be driven by remote control <sarcasm font>

[Marcjsmith 402]

Trovao. 

I apprciate the sarcasm....  I’m not a fan of dumbing down the the sport.   Quite the opposite.  Part of the allure to motor sports is the danger...

[derelicte 23]

the last formula e race has finally been posted to youtube. I guess there was a 1 week blackout of something in the us. 

it was a pretty entertaining race. 

[vibroman 110]

Latest Launch Dates

February 11: Toro Rosso launch

February 12: Renault launch

February 13: Mercedes launch

February 13: Racing Point launch

February 14: McLaren launch

February 15: Ferrari launch

February 18: Sauber launch; first pre-season test begins

February 26-March 1: Second pre-season test

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/mercedes-date-first-run-w10/4330680/

19 sleeps

[vibroman 110]

Does not look like your typical F1 primary sponsor. 

Car looks Good though hope its quick

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/haas-rich-energy-doubters-moon-landing/4333920/

11 sleeps

[WCB 380]

Renault launches their new car.  https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/renault-launches-2019-car-rs19/4336193/ 

Williams launches theirs...  https://jalopnik.com/williams-f1-team-unveils-a-new-title-sponsor-and-a-new-1832556583 

[Soley 37]

On 2/7/2019 at 12:45 PM, vibroman said:

Does not look like your typical F1 primary sponsor. 

Car looks Good though hope its quick

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/haas-rich-energy-doubters-moon-landing/4333920/

11 sleeps

William Storey was an F1 fan from a kid mesmorised by the JPS lotus livery. Probably a Brexiteer as well.

Even their logo is stolen from the bike company Whyte USA.

I hope Haas got the cash up front.

 

[WCB 380]

31 minutes ago, Soley said:

William Storey was an F1 fan from a kid mesmorised by the JPS lotus livery. Probably a Brexiteer as well.

Even their logo is stolen from the bike company Whyte USA.

I hope Haas got the cash up front.

 

Wow, that wasn't even a subtle rip off

[vibroman 110]

No Doubt we will get used to the humungous new front wings but my first reaction to this was ugh

I wonder if this is RBR's final livery? or just some Dazzle Paint to put off the competition?

[billy backstay 943]

1 hour ago, vibroman said:

No Doubt we will get used to the humungous new front wings but my first reaction to this was ugh

I wonder if this is RBR's final livery? or just some Dazzle Paint to put off the competition?

 

Front wing looks much larger than last year??  EDIT,  sorry my bad, someone already mentioned it....

[Movable Ballast 166]

A few of those wings will get trashed early in the season before the guys figure out where they are! Max will need to give a bit more "room".

[El Capitano 3]

The change in the front wings is to reverse the engineering that made the cars wake slow down the car behind. Wing design is not just making the car its attached to faster, it also includes making cars behind slower.

[suider 42]

I don't put too much in the 'Indy v. F1' argument... and the Indy guys are JUST getting used to the track... but watching the side by side at COTA is at least interesting...

 

[Innocent Bystander 839]

1 hour ago, suider said:

I don't put too much in the 'Indy v. F1' argument... and the Indy guys are JUST getting used to the track... but watching the side by side at COTA is at least interesting...

 

Don't disagree but there is a huge difference in F-1 and Indy car.  F-1's are refined, temperamental and exotic beast and cost is generally not a consideration.  Indy-Cars are spec racers designed to cost and budgets at a small percentage of what even a third tier F-1 team manages.  Up close, the Indy-Cars are pretty agricultural.  They are "fast enough" and close enough to each other that the racing is pretty good with lots of passing.  PTP is the low tech DRS.  

[Mr. Squirrel 88]

I love the new Alfa Romeo livery

MS

[Mr. Squirrel 88]

Cool comparison of the MCL33 to MCL34.  Just drag the slider L-R / R-L to see the difference

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/formula-one-mclaren-new-car-slide-view/4337668/

MS

[Happy 1,366]

I'm hoping that Renault turn out to be the surprise of the season in power, reliability, handling and tactics.

(Disclaimer: I don't give a shit about Renault the team, their shit road cars, their general Frenchness. I just want Ricciardo to have a good car!)

[vibroman 110]

 +1 ^^

I kind of like the Alfa livery too. Unfortunately, like RBR that is not going to be the final livery for the season.

how ‘bout that Alpha front wing?

 

[WCB 380]

Ferrari with their new matte paint.  I will root against Vettel all season (maybe not Leclerc though), but this car looks sharp.

[WCB 380]

Williams looking good too

 

[vibroman 110]

Mexico E in the books

exciting finish caused by most running out of battery on last lap. Still not convinced vs  F1 yet.

1 more sleep to testing

Here is the lineup

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/barcelona-preseason-test-driver-lineup/4339071/

[Innocent Bystander 839]

Thoughts after the first 2.5 days at Barcelona?  Yeah, I know times don't mean much but some folks are showing pace.  

Both Ferrari drivers are laying down laps and quick times without resorting to qualifying trim.  

Kimi is quick in the Alfa (Sauber)

Perez solid in the Racing Point (Force India).  Stroll off the pace

Mclaren solid so far but down on laps compared to others.  

Renaults not showing tremendous speed  and broke a wing (DRS) yesterday (RIcciardo spun as a result managed to avoid a shunt) so running with DRS disables today.  Hulk about 1 second off the pace today with no DRS so what does that mean??

Mercedes soldiering on with their testing and data gathering as usual but not obviously pushing to lay down a super quick lap so no real hints on pace.

HAAS solidly near the top pf "the rest" as is Torro Rosso

RBR about the same as STR

And WIlliams.  Poster child for a team in trouble.  Just arrived with the car overnight and they just now turned  an installation lap.  Rumors of near revolt in that camp.  

All but WIlliams turning a respectable number of laps  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Movable Ballast 166]

It's horrible to see Williams falter like this. The car is not that bad, it's the people. The people of any team/company are responsible for success/failure. Williams needs to do some serious house cleaning and start with some new energy... 

[Trovão 436]

2 hours ago, Movable Ballast said:

It's horrible to see Williams falter like this. The car is not that bad, it's the people. The people of any team/company are responsible for success/failure. Williams needs to do some serious house cleaning and start with some new energy... 

it's been a couple of years already that williams, as a team, is on a downward spiral. lack of leadership, imho. because they have a bunch of pretty decent tech people.

[vibroman 110]

Ferrari look scary fast but then they always do in testing.

Nice to see Alpha and Kimi up there

It will be interesting to see how the 2 different front wing philosophies turn out. Pretty radically different right now

 

[Mr. Squirrel 88]

12 hours ago, Movable Ballast said:

It's horrible to see Williams falter like this. The car is not that bad, it's the people. The people of any team/company are responsible for success/failure. Williams needs to do some serious house cleaning and start with some new energy... 

They just brought Paddy Lowe in from Mercedes to be new Technical Director.  I would be curious to know if leaving was Smedley's idea or he was pushed out.  A brilliant engineer so me thinks he left of his own volition.  And showing up 2 days late for winter testing is pretty inexcusable.  Those 2 days are nearly impossible to make up.

Nice to see most of the cars are able to make decent runs without PU troubles - so far.  Then again, the wicks are hardly turned up

MS

[Innocent Bystander 839]

Interesting test results.  Nico was about 1.2 seconds off last year's race pole time so perhaps not turned up all of the way, but pretty quick.  From Sky Sports:

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The fastest laps of winter testing per driver

Driver	Team	Test Day	Tyre	Lap Time
Nico Hulkenberg	Renault	Day Four	C5 (Softest)	1:17.393
Alex Albon	Toro Rosso	Day Four	C5 (Softest)	1:17.637
Daniil Kvyat	Toro Rosso	Day Three	C5 (Softest)	1:17.704
Kimi Raikkonen	Alfa Romeo	Day Three	C5 (Softest)	1:17.762
Daniel Ricciardo	Renault	Day Four	C5 (Softest)	1:17.785
Valtteri Bottas	Mercedes	Day Four	C5 (Softest)	1:17.857
Lewis Hamilton	Mercedes	Day Four	C4 (2nd softest)	1:17.977
Charles Leclerc	Ferrari	Day Four	C3 (Softs)	1:18.046
Sebastian Vettel	Ferrari	Day One	C3 (Softs)	1:18.161
Lando Norris	McLaren	Day Two	C4 (2nd softest)	1:18.431
Antonio Giovinazzi	Alfa Romeo	Day Four	C3 (Softs)	1:18.511
Romain Grosjean	Haas	Day Four	C3 (Softs)	1:18.563
Carlos Sainz	McLaren	Day One	C4 (2nd softest)	1:18.558
Kevin Magnussen	Haas	Day Four	C3 (Softs)	1:18.720
Pierre Gasly	Red Bull	Day Four	C3 (Softs)	1:18.780
Max Verstappen	Red Bull	Day Three	C3 (Softs)	1:18.787
Pietro Fittipaldi	Haas	Day Three	C4 (2nd softest)	1:19.249
Sergio Perez	Racing Point	Day One	C3 (Softs)	1:19.944
Lance Stroll	Racing Point	Day Four	C2 (2nd hardest)	1:19.664
George Russell	Williams	Day Four	C3 (Softs)	1:20.997
Robert Kubica	Williams	Day Four	C2 (2nd hardest)	1:21.542

Laps completes would suggest decent reliability, even Williams since they only had 1.5 days of running

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The most laps completed per team after Day Four

Team	Number of laps
Mercedes	610
Ferrari	598
Alfa Romeo	507
Toro Rosso	482
Red Bull	475
McLaren	445
Renault	433
Haas	384
Racing Point	348
Williams	88

 

[MR.CLEAN 3,813]

13 minutes ago, Innocent Bystander said:

Interesting test results.  Nico was about 1.2 seconds off last year's race pole time so perhaps not turned up all of the way,

Temperature easily explains 1.2 s or more.

 

Stroll looking quick!

[Chris in Santa Cruz, CA 373]

The Paddy Lowe deal is a mystery to me. Nothing has gotten better yet under his leadership.

[vibroman 110]

Paddy now gone at Williams. 

https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/47476566

Who replaces him?

[Chris in Santa Cruz, CA 373]

I'm busy right now.

[vibroman 110]

I wonder with paddy gone, Frank will change his mind and become the merc junior team ala alpha haas etc?

 

[suider 42]

Interesting rule change (expected) awarding a point for fastest lap- assuming said driver also finishes in the top 10...

https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/47497979

[billy backstay 943]

Daughter told me that there is a new F1 Documentary on Netflix now, and I plan on finding it to have a look see.

[vibroman 110]

^^ called drive to survive. Whole series just dropped. Just added to my watchlist.

 

[billy backstay 943]

26 minutes ago, vibroman said:

^^ called drive to survive. Whole series just dropped. Just added to my watchlist.

 

I have only briefly used Netflix.  I asked my daughter if I could record this on the Comcast DVR and she said no, and no need to, as apparently I can watch whatever I want, whenever I want to with Netflix.  Missus BB has been enjoying Frankie and Jonnie, I think it is with Lily Tomlin and Jane Fonda.......

[vibroman 110]

Just watched ep 1 not bad. The foley operators seemed to be taking some liberties. I swear I was hearing V10 s in a couple of clips showing v 6’s but on the whole a pretty good effort

[animeproblem 211]

5 hours ago, billy backstay said:

 

I have only briefly used Netflix.  I asked my daughter if I could record this on the Comcast DVR and she said no, and no need to, as apparently I can watch whatever I want, whenever I want to with Netflix.  Missus BB has been enjoying Frankie and Jonnie, I think it is with Lily Tomlin and Jane Fonda.......

Well that is that, I,m going to get Netflix back, I let it slide when I lost a wallet a while back & had to get new "magic pay for stuff cards" (& the little fuckers that "recovered" my wallet tried to charge a shitload of stuff too, banks were pretty quick to call bullshit on that action) since I'm back to work & flush with cash no reason not to, some DAMN fine Anime on there as well.

 

 

 

 

 

Is it weird that every time I click on the link to this thread I say "whah -  whaah" (the old early 90s F1 intro/theme music)? IMHO that should NEVER have been changed.

[vibroman 110]

Just watched EP3 Monaco.

Scratch my previous musings about Williams becoming a junior team. Quoting Claire (and presumably Frank) "Over my dead body"

Interesting exchanges between LS senior and Claire. he seemed to be pretty involved in d2d which surprised me. I wonder how much LS Senior had to do with Rob Smedley's departure? Now the Strolls and Paddy have departed I wonder if the door opens back up for Smedley. Always had a ton of respect for him. 

[MR.CLEAN 3,813]

Danny Ric is on $49M, three times Verstappen's salary.  Nice one.

 

Lewis Hamilton (Mercedes) $73.74m

Sebastian Vettel (Ferrari) $56.23m

Daniel Ricciardo (Renault) $48.86m

Max Verstappen (Red Bull) $18.43m

Valtteri Bottas (Mercedes) $11.98m

 

https://au.sports.yahoo.com/daniel-ricciardos-staggering-renault-salary-revealed-221945576.html

 

 

[WCB 380]

1 hour ago, MR.CLEAN said:

Danny Ric is on $49M, three times Verstappen's salary.  Nice one.

 

Lewis Hamilton (Mercedes) $73.74m

Sebastian Vettel (Ferrari) $56.23m

Daniel Ricciardo (Renault) $48.86m

Max Verstappen (Red Bull) $18.43m

Valtteri Bottas (Mercedes) $11.98m

 

https://au.sports.yahoo.com/daniel-ricciardos-staggering-renault-salary-revealed-221945576.html

 

 

Good for Ricciardo, he's a much better driver than crashstappen

[vibroman 110]

As Christian Horner said to Cyril Abiteboul "Do you have enough money for your engine after spending that much on your driver?" 

I hope so, I would like to see Danny Ric (and Gasly) take it to Verstappen. He (Max) is an amazing talent but has an arrogant streak for one so youthful and and inexperienced. Without the steading influence of an older driver I wonder if he will develop at a slower rate. Needs to pay some dues

[Movable Ballast 166]

The Honda engine is going to Blow Max's mind after it fails a few times... 

[Soley 37]

That is a good series on Netflix. The absence of Mercedes and Ferrari is noticeable but the depth of the midfield stories is so much more because of it.

The brutal honesty of the teams, drivers and producers was refreshing when it is hard to get past the polished image during the season.

Also I always wondered about the radio transmissions that the F1 world feed puts up. Always late and not too frequent. Now you hear the swearing going on I can see how they have a hard time letting viewers hear the transmissions.

Well done to Liberty Media getting this produced. 

[suider 42]

Well, we are almost there, so I have to throw my hat in the ring for Bottas taking the championship... he's pissed after last year and I've been a fan of his since the Williams days... and I definitely don't think he is as weak as a driver as he showed last year. After the first couple races with no team orders I think he's level or ahead of LH and I still think Merc can develop faster than the other teams, even if they didn't look AS strong in testing.

I mean, it's no fun always expecting the favorites to win, right?

[MR.CLEAN 3,813]

Danny Ric FTW!

 

the only thing that would make me happier would be to see Kimi get the title

 

 

 

[suider 42]

21 hours ago, MR.CLEAN said:

Danny Ric FTW!

 

the only thing that would make me happier would be to see Kimi get the title

 

 

 

If my guy doesn't have what I think he does, neither of those choices would upset me- that's for sure!

[Meat Wad 533]

I like the Formula E, tighter racing for the whole race and many faces/name you will recognize. The car aerodynamic package is different to look at too.

Instead of fuel management, It's the energy management. Who cares about the roar of the engine. At least you don't need ear plugs.

Plenty of crashes at Mexico.

[captnjoe 35]

https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/47564762

Charlie Whiting: F1 race director dies aged 66 on eve of season-opener in Melbourne

Looks like they just lost their PRO, sad.

 

[SCARECROW 545]

On 3/13/2019 at 3:16 AM, Soley said:

That is a good series on Netflix. The absence of Mercedes and Ferrari is noticeable but the depth of the midfield stories is so much more because of it.

The brutal honesty of the teams, drivers and producers was refreshing when it is hard to get past the polished image during the season.

Also I always wondered about the radio transmissions that the F1 world feed puts up. Always late and not too frequent. Now you hear the swearing going on I can see how they have a hard time letting viewers hear the transmissions.

Well done to Liberty Media getting this produced. 

Story on Fox news about Max V not wanting to watch because of how he "might" be portrayed.  Some serious inner guilt there, but I thought they were pretty fair to him.  Showed him as the ambitions up and comer but that was all.

[vibroman 110]

5 hours ago, captnjoe said:

https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/47564762

Charlie Whiting: F1 race director dies aged 66 on eve of season-opener in Melbourne

Looks like they just lost their PRO, sad.

 

RIP Charlie

Not just the PRO but the regatta chair, chair of the rules committe, IJ’s, and world sailing all rolled into one. Big shoes to fill.

 

[vibroman 110]

A blast from the past...Last man standing

Something from Teaky's Desk if you can name all 4 teams without the aid of google (or the link below)

 

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news

[Trovão 436]

8 hours ago, vibroman said:

RIP Charlie

Not just the PRO but the regatta chair, chair of the rules committe, IJ’s, and world sailing all rolled into one. Big shoes to fill.

 

probably impossible to do by just one person.

[Movable Ballast 166]

On 3/12/2019 at 9:50 AM, suider said:

Well, we are almost there, so I have to throw my hat in the ring for Bottas taking the championship... he's pissed after last year and I've been a fan of his since the Williams days... and I definitely don't think he is as weak as a driver as he showed last year. After the first couple races with no team orders I think he's level or ahead of LH and I still think Merc can develop faster than the other teams, even if they didn't look AS strong in testing.

I mean, it's no fun always expecting the favorites to win, right?

Wolff would "spike" his car if he got too far ahead... 

[vibroman 110]

And so it begins

Merc showing friday pace

Ferrari Sandbagging

Kimi having flasbacks

Williams several seconds off with RK avoiding kerbs because the have no parts... Oh how the might have fallen.

[MR.CLEAN 3,813]

McLaren looks pretty good tho

 

[vibroman 110]

Not so sure about that, (or do i have a missing sarcasm font?) they are still at the tail end of the mid field. the only reason they are not propping up the timesheets is the woeful Williams. They're (McLaren) seem pretty upbeat so hopefully more to come. Not sure the Renault power unit is there yet. We shall see tomorrow.

[captnjoe 35]

Qualifying:

Nothing new, nothing to see go back home and wait for tomorrow's parade.

Hopefully I'm wrong.

 

[footlong 53]

Indy car

[WCB 380]

On 3/16/2019 at 11:04 AM, captnjoe said:

Qualifying:

Nothing new, nothing to see go back home and wait for tomorrow's parade.

Hopefully I'm wrong.

 

Not wrong unfortunately and man am I ticked about the Vettel/LeClerc episode. LeClerc clearly was going to blow on by Vettel and team orders forced him to go back and take a seat in fifth.  

I kind of had a laugh, sadly, after the race in the interviews when Hamilton said he wasn't concerned about Verstappen, that he had plenty left in the car.

[suider 42]

So, clearly, I’m happy with the way the race turned out...

...and we knew there wouldn’t be a ton of passing in Australia... but I actually thought it looked like there were more opportunities... what I mean is MAYBE the new aero and absurdly big front wing will actually help overtaking chances this year? Maybe? I do sort of miss the ridiculous cascade elements, though... although the vortices off the rear wing sort of made up for that...

I personally still wish they would let us know what actual compounds they are running this year too... even if on a number scale... like was yesterday last year’s hyper, super, and soft? Super, soft, and medium? Soft, medium, hard? My morbid curiosity wants to know!! And I personally didn’t find the ‘old’ system as confusing as the announcers tried to make it.