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2018 Rolex Sydney Hobart Yacht Race: The Race Committee has lodged a protest against Wild Oats XI

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16 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:

He hasn't played in Aust for around 2 years with the Bad Seeds. He is touring at the moment but not a traditional gig. Just he on stage and a piano taking questions from the audience and playing songs. Very few artists can pull off this sort of revelatory approach. Well worth attending I'm told.

just heard about it today. Sadly no tickets for either night in Melbourne

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3 minutes ago, hoppy said:

just heard about it today. Sadly no tickets for either night in Melbourne

Nor here in Adelaide. I'm on the wait list. 

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6 hours ago, DickDastardly said:

The Saints were not really broken in the UK, they effectively died there however.  They only really lasted a couple of years but thankfully Ed and Chris are still soldiering on doing good things.

Yes I was using an economy of words. After some initial sucess in Aust the Go Between founders Robert Forster and Grant McLennan (RIP) sent copies to record labels around the world in late 70's, leaving Australia with a plan to shop their songs. It was their hometown band the Saints sucess in the UK in 1976/77 period that gave them the courage to make that plunge.

The UK was where they first generated interest returning to Australia and cranking things up, disbanding in the 90's then reforming in 2000 until Grants death in 2006. To many to list but one that will interest is the band's first official album, Send Me a Lullaby, released in 1981. The single "After the Fireworks" was recorded in collaboration with The Birthday Party's Nick Cave on vocals.

The Brisbane connection really came in 1988 with their single "Streets of Your Town" on  the more commercial 16 Lovers Lane album just before they disbanded the first time. The lyrics of Streets are very Brisbane centric, hence I give it the Brisbane title. Like Paul Kelly (a great mate) their songwriting identified close to their interests and roots such as the single Cattle and Cane ( McLennan grew up in Nth Qld) from their album Before Hollywood, released as a single in the UK and we'll recieved, but ironically not in Australia until much later when released. Mainstream recognition came with the album Oceans Apart winning an ARIA award for 'Best Adult Contemporary Album in 2005'. The next year Grant was dead.

Grants death was a huge loss, I attended his funeral and many in the Aust music scene in attendance obviously thought likewise.

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6 hours ago, LB 15 said:

Anyway gang its been a fun day but got to go. Its the Child brides birthday today so the boys and I are off to pick her up from work and take her out to dinner. If MR calls send me a PM. Shit - I better remember to feed Randumb before I go. I hate taking the gimp mask off him, he always tries to bite me.

Is the child bride from Queensland?....... what did Warne think?

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12 hours ago, jack_sparrow said:

He hasn't played in Aust for around 2 years with the Bad Seeds. He is touring at the moment but not a traditional gig. Just he on stage and a piano taking questions from the audience and playing songs. Very few artists can pull off this sort of revelatory approach. Well worth attending I'm told.

I saw the Sydney gig on Tuesday.  Pretty cool but after a couple of hours talking and plunking and a couple of inane questions from the audience Nick baled out.  Still was huge fun though.

 

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13 hours ago, paps49 said:

That's the thing LB, they are all lying cunts.

No argument from me mate. It’s an ALP thing I guess. 

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12 hours ago, paps49 said:

Or possiblibly narcissm , a retainer perhaps.?

Both in fact. Sandy has offered me a Wild Oats cap and T-shirt. Can’t wait to wear them down to the Yacht house next Wednesday. 

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12 hours ago, EddyAllTime said:

I sorta like the idea of a thread where it's a competition to move as far away form the original intent as possible via a series of logical, incremental steps.

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10 hours ago, frant said:

Is the child bride from Queensland?....... what did Warne think?

Oh course she is - we Queenslanders prefer attractive women. Coincidentally she has just finished reading His autobiography, which given her dislike of cricket is amazing. She really enjoyed it- said he seemed like an average bloke that worked hard to achieve every thing he got. Like Liz Hurley ( no relation to Ken Hurling (: ) But you will have to do better than that to get under my skin mate. This is the big league of shit canning. Lift your game!

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2 minutes ago, DickDastardly said:

I sorta like the idea of a thread where it's a competition to move as far away form the original intent as possible via a series of logical, incremental steps.

I think it was BJ (Porter not Harburg) that said threads on this forum often take on a life of there own.

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14 hours ago, paps49 said:

That's the thing LB, they are all lying cunts.

You know you are really a politician when you start believing your own bullshit...

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1 hour ago, LB 15 said:

Both in fact. Sandy has offered me a Wild Oats cap and T-shirt. Can’t wait to wear them down to the Yacht house next Wednesday. 

Have they printed the new T-Shirts already?

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The Si's don't say you can't leave green Cape to port. You just have to text your mum as you pass it. 

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15 hours ago, EddyAllTime said:

You're defending Bill Shorten? The guy that sexually assaulted a 16 year old... 

I imagined you to be older. 

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19 hours ago, LB 15 said:

Anyway gang its been a fun day but got to go. Its the Child brides birthday today so the boys and I are off to pick her up from work and take her out to dinner. If MR calls send me a PM. Shit - I better remember to feed Randumb before I go. I hate taking the gimp mask off him, he always tries to bite me.

Just blend it and use a straw, or administer with said straw in the other orifice. Apparently it’s preferable that way for him. 

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3 hours ago, LB 15 said:

No argument from me mate. It’s an ALP thing I guess. 

Sometimes politicians and voters of the opposite political pursuasion become strange bedfellows. Conservatives who believe in less government intrusion and empowerment of the individual. Socialists advocating collective or governmental ownership and intervention in the production and distribution of goods and services.

So there is the self employed taxi operator whose Govt issued licence(s) used to be worth $500k sees it drop to $150k courtesy of ride sharing. All because governments of all political pursuasions were not game to take on their followers all hooked on Uber Heroin.

In the same theme I see the Socialist West Australian Government are going to issue more crayfishing licences but retain the majority themselves. That will cause the value of existing licences to drop and allow 1,700 tonne more crayfish to be caught or an increase of 28% . Like their taxi cousins cray fisherman are pretty pissed off. Why is the Govt doing this? Seems the price of crayfish has hit $60/kg wholesale and 97% of the catch is going to China. The locals 3% is also of a lessor grade. The new Govt retained licences and catch increase will not be allowed to be exported.

So the Greens will shout and yell about a natural resource being plundered and Conservatives will decry the erosion of individual commercial endeavour by Socialists nationalising the distribution of goods?

My guess is they will all say fuck all around election time. After all who is going to vote for anyone who supports a $80 taxi fare to eat $120 restaurant crayfish.

In the end we all end up looking just like the cunty politicians we despise.

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50 minutes ago, mad said:

Just blend it and use a straw, or administer with said straw in the other orifice. Apparently it’s preferable that way for him. 

I have let him out for an hour this morning now that the Ritalin has kicked in. He started to get a bit agitated when a plane flew over the house so I have chained him up again.

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1 hour ago, LB 15 said:

The Si's don't say you can't leave green Cape to port. You just have to text your mum as you pass it. 

The bowman must have had a pick and shovel.

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30 minutes ago, Trickypig said:

The bowman must have had a pick and shovel.

I was wondering where my beach trolley went.  

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did braindumb get the boot around here? his sock is all that's left?

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1 hour ago, jack_sparrow said:

 

So there is the self employed taxi operator whose Govt issued licence(s) used to be worth $500k sees it drop to $150k courtesy of ride sharing. All because governments of all political pursuasions were not game to take on their followers all hooked on Uber Heroin.

that particular clusterfuck was the making of the taxi industry and government. Restriction on the number of issued taxi plates inflated their value..  Uber disrupted that.

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2 hours ago, LB 15 said:

The Si's don't say you can't leave green Cape to port. You just have to text your mum as you pass it. 

Strangely, you don't have to leave the mainland to stb, but you do need to round Tassie to port.

 

You can do your Green Cape report from somewhere South of Albany if you like.

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2 hours ago, LB 15 said:

The Si's don't say you can't leave green Cape to port. You just have to text your mum as you pass it. 

I think WOXI learnt their lesson from 2010 when the HF "turned on didn't do on" and surviving a protest over that. This year to be safe they they sent the RC a telegram from the Wonboyn Post Office, though that is slightly south of Green Cape.

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1 hour ago, duncan (the other one) said:

that particular clusterfuck was the making of the taxi industry and government. Restriction on the number of issued taxi plates inflated their value..  Uber disrupted that.

That and State Governments taking a couple of years to work out that the unregulated disrupter didn't have pesky things like insurance and passenger safety devices etc. The first to have the penny drop were State Police forces when looking for Ubers phone number to help them with criminal investigations but finding shock horror they didn't have contact, camera and tracking device records like the regulated players had. By the time they got off their arse, the Uber Genie was out of the bottle.

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54 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:

I think WOXI learnt their lesson from 2010 when the HF "turned on didn't do on" and surviving a protest over that. This year to be safe they they sent the RC a telegram from the Wonboyn Post Office, though that is slightly south of Green Cape.

has anyone got the full back catalogue of the 'yeh, but our situation was different' regarding WOXI... there have been quite a few.

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32 minutes ago, duncan (the other one) said:

has anyone got the full back catalogue of the 'yeh, but our situation was different' regarding WOXI... there have been quite a few.

I recall protest was faulty HF RX, then going past Green Cape to adjacent Gabo or 1/2 hr or so before getting HF operational and getting OK from RC to continue? I can only assume RC gave OK to continue but were looking to impose a time penalty for continuing before that OK?

One would normally mark that experience for any potential safety infringement of the electronic variety in future races.

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Still hearing crickets!

Maybe the transmission link to Hammo is on the fritz......

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38 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:

I recall protest was faulty HF RX, then going past Green Cape to adjacent Gabo or 1/2 hr or so before getting HF operational and getting OK from RC to continue? I can only assume RC gave OK to continue but were looking to impose a time penalty for continuing before that OK?

One would normally mark that experience for any potential safety infringement of the electronic variety in future races.

Was WOXI buzzed by a helicopter back then? Just asking for a friend......

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53 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:

I recall protest was faulty HF RX, then going past Green Cape to adjacent Gabo or 1/2 hr or so before getting HF operational and getting OK from RC to continue? I can only assume RC gave OK to continue but were looking to impose a time penalty for continuing before that OK?

One would normally mark that experience for any potential safety infringement of the electronic variety in future races.

I looked it up - there was satellite comms, HF fix and then an ok to proceed past Gabo.. so maybe not as nefarious as I have implied.

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56 minutes ago, Sidecar said:

Was WOXI buzzed by a helicopter back then? Just asking for a friend......

That was the SAILGATE dismissed protest re Cocko on Loyal asking a helo about sails WOXI had flying. Think dismissal was based upon him was asking in capacity as WOXI's sailmaker checking if his workmanship was still flying after a sporty night? Year or two after HFGATE.

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25 minutes ago, duncan (the other one) said:

I looked it up - there was satellite comms, HF fix and then an ok to proceed past Gabo.. so maybe not as nefarious as I have implied.

Didn't seem to be nefarious but odd that RC protested presumably seeking a time penalty for proceeding without OK up to time RC gave the OK to proceed and or WOXI's HF was still not fully functioning. The IJ didn't think so. A comparison is some have not been allowed past Green Cape without a fully functioning HF and DSQ'd or Retired. There was one instance last year I recall.

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57 minutes ago, paps49 said:

Still hearing crickets!

Maybe the transmission link to Hammo is on the fritz......

This Just in...

Rushcutters Bay Times, Friday 11th Jan 2019.

The Skipper of this years Sydney to Hobart Line Honers winner, Mark Richards has just released the following Statement-

In response to fucking intense fucking speculation and fucking misinformation on the fucking Sailing Anarchy fucking website, I on behalf of the owners and connections of Wild Oats XI, wish to fucking well address the fucking issue of our fucking AIS fucking transmissions during last years fucking Hobart fucking race. Shortly before the fucking start, the fucking helicopter was fucking hovering just above our fucking masthead, making it fucking hard for the fucking crew to fucking hear my calm fucking instructions and playing fucking havoc with my fucking hair. One of the fucking roter blades fucking hit our fucking aerial and obviously fucked it.

The fucking thing was fucking split right down the fucking middle, resulting in it only fucking receiving, not fucking transmitting. As we fucking approached the fucking finish fucking line, one of those fucking great big fucking Tasmanian seagulls fucking shat on the fucking thing and that glued it back into one piece, and the fucking thing started working again.

The fucking AIS was switched to fucking transmit but it is fucking clear that for much of the race the fucking fucker was fucked. We fucking resent the fucking allegations that we fucking cheated and we are demanding a fucking apology from fucking Yachting Australia, the fucking CYCA, Fucking Squwark and all the other fucking competitors, the fucking helicopter pilot, the fucking Australian Cricket fucking team, NSW fucking waterways, the Fucking state Premier, the entire fucking federal Government, Sydney fucking ferries, every fucking Palm beach owner, Jimmy fucking Spithill, fucking Jack Sparrow, Paps 49, 50 and 51 and that fucking cunt Mid.

Thank you all for your interest and support of this wonderful event.

Image result for mark richards sailor giving the finger

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The most credible explanation so far, and I’d swear like that too  if I all had to eat for the whole race was fried splitters......

 

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1 hour ago, jack_sparrow said:

Didn't seem to be nefarious but odd that RC protested presumably seeking a time penalty for proceeding without OK up to time RC gave the OK to proceed and or WOXI's HF was still not fully functioning. The IJ didn't think so. A comparison is some have not been allowed past Green Cape without a fully functioning HF and DSQ'd or Retired. There was one instance last year I recall.

I think we should reopen the Condor and Nirvana Protest from the 83 race.

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1 hour ago, jack_sparrow said:

Didn't seem to be nefarious but odd that RC protested presumably seeking a time penalty for proceeding without OK up to time RC gave the OK to proceed and or WOXI's HF was still not fully functioning. The IJ didn't think so. A comparison is some have not been allowed past Green Cape without a fully functioning HF and DSQ'd or Retired. There was one instance last year I recall.

very good point.. this year there was clearly a band you could give the ok in (Green Cape to Gabo).. previously it was a line.  I remember some grumbling amongst sailors that year.

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37 minutes ago, duncan (the other one) said:

protest not enough beer on board? Only one drinking.

Inappropriately short shorts. 20% time penalty.

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1 hour ago, LB 15 said:

This Just in...

Rushcutters Bay Times, Friday 11th Jan 2019.

The Skipper of this years Sydney to Hobart Line Honers winner, Mark Richards has just released the following Statement-

In response to fucking intense fucking speculation and fucking misinformation on the fucking Sailing Anarchy fucking website, I on behalf of the owners and connections of Wild Oats XI, wish to fucking well address the fucking issue of our fucking AIS fucking transmissions during last years fucking Hobart fucking race. Shortly before the fucking start, the fucking helicopter was fucking hovering just above our fucking masthead, making it fucking hard for the fucking crew to fucking hear my calm fucking instructions and playing fucking havoc with my fucking hair. One of the fucking roter blades fucking hit our fucking aerial and obviously fucked it.

The fucking thing was fucking split right down the fucking middle, resulting in it only fucking receiving, not fucking transmitting. As we fucking approached the fucking finish fucking line, one of those fucking great big fucking Tasmanian seagulls fucking shat on the fucking thing and that glued it back into one piece, and the fucking thing started working again.

The fucking AIS was switched to fucking transmit but it is fucking clear that for much of the race the fucking fucker was fucked. We fucking resent the fucking allegations that we fucking cheated and we are demanding a fucking apology from fucking Yachting Australia, the fucking CYCA, Fucking Squwark and all the other fucking competitors, the fucking helicopter pilot, the fucking Australian Cricket fucking team, NSW fucking waterways, the Fucking state Premier, the entire fucking federal Government, Sydney fucking ferries, every fucking Palm beach owner, Jimmy fucking Spithill, fucking Jack Sparrow, Paps 49, 50 and 51 and that fucking cunt Mid.

Thank you all for your interest and support of this wonderful event.

Image result for mark richards sailor giving the finger

Sorry LB not nearly as funny as Clarke and Dawe.

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13 minutes ago, LB 15 said:

Inappropriately short shorts. 20% time penalty.

Queenslanders, always missing the white shoes...

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I think Mark is so looking straight into Random's eyes in that pic,  I can see why your attracted.

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It must be about time for Eddy All Time to have his virtual jiss fest, excuse me if I don't stay.

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From the Random Pic Thread.

I think Hobot found the problem on WOXI :lol::lol:

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16 minutes ago, EddyAllTime said:

It's ok, the money shot will come sometime next week.

Just like Richos proof statement.
You virtually Jissed me more than 30 times tonight, how is that pissable?

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4 minutes ago, paps49 said:

Just like Richos proof statement.
You virtually Jissed me more than 30 times tonight, how is that pissable?

take a closer look , there's a sock 

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On 1/10/2019 at 10:44 AM, LB 15 said:

No but I did have the fuckwit out on the boat once

You missed a great opportunity to improve Australia there...

FKT

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6 hours ago, jack_sparrow said:

I think WOXI learnt their lesson from 2010 when the HF "turned on didn't do on" and surviving a protest over that. This year to be safe they they sent the RC a telegram from the Wonboyn Post Office, though that is slightly south of Green Cape.

Fuck, there's a name from the past! I used to camp there and bush-bash down to the beach south of the lake entrance back in the 1970's. Used to be really great fishing.

Then there's Bittangabee Inlet a little north of Green Cape.

FKT

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3 hours ago, jack_sparrow said:

That was the SAILGATE dismissed protest re Cocko on Loyal asking a helo about sails WOXI had flying. Think dismissal was based upon him was asking in capacity as WOXI's sailmaker checking if his workmanship was still flying after a sporty night? Year or two after HFGATE.

Don’t forget RAGS ocs 2012

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3 hours ago, LB 15 said:

Thank you all for your interest and support of this wonderful event ...

and I invite you to buy a limited special edition WOXI T-Shirt that I have signed using the same pen I made our race declaration with dipped in lemon juice.

You will see @LB 15 at the back of the room ready to take your money, he is the two faced but wearing our T-Shirt guy The proceeds will go to towards furthering my amateur campaign which for convenience only requires you to turn on Channel 7 once a year to watch this one course wonder of mine and on account I get air sick and suffer from Offshore Sailing Nth Hemisphereitas, or OSNH.

Last but not least I have to tip my jewel encrusted Channel 7, Hamilton Is and WO Wines cap to those solders behind this 10th, sorry 9th LH win. Speaking of soldiers, Sandy reakons our first hire for the 75th should be Mark Wahlberg just to be safe as the RRS and SI's don't prohibit 50 calibre sniper rifles.

First the guys on BJ who must be getting a bit old as their ball sacks let go, hitting the pontoon stepping off then crushing their contents after crying in joy to microphones about their 2nd place. To the RC with no such infliction but neutered by the No 100' protest disease unless an infringement is seen by more than 50 people under the age of 3 in Nth Korea and live. The IJ who we all in the 100' Club affectionately call Dumb and Dumber who if there isn't  a Butler on board, no one in WS  has been killed. All you guys are the gems in my cap.

To WOXI's afterguard with more Olympic, RTW and AC accolades you can't find enough sticks to poke into a splitter. Thank God you guys think a splitter is something you employ just before the onset of winter as you huddle around the fireplace. Your loyalty and devotion to your contract "deaf mute" clause is a lesson to us all. It gave me 12 months grace to admit we fucked up and the IJ got it right last year. Sorry JC. A special thanks go to those two onboard members who attended the IJ hearing wearing this T-Shirt and wearing not much else, but knowing the obvious outcome, while I was tied up in a meeting with the RO and Channel 7 about our prospects of entering the 75th next year.

Let's not forget sailing is the winner here. Mums and Dads around the world will be zipping down to their local hardware store to fit a Splitter on their kids 49'er or Laser to try and achieve excellence at their respective forefronts of our sport, but obviously now looking for a model that doubles as a RRS shreader.

Ohhhh before you all rush off, a final thanks to the Oatley Family Trust. Their engagement of the Fake News Team and finding photos of Richard Gladwell with a sheep to cover up for my Tourettes syndrome was a godsend and he will now go silent. Like me saying the AIS TX wasn't mandatory but what I really meant was, from only having one sleep, was that the SI's said my iPod didn't have to be turned on. Or my silly promise to provide evidence of the TV Microwave Induced Fuckery zapping all electronics on board but all recovered save for AIS TX. That was in conjunction of course with my dumbfuck bagging the RO for making AIS TX compulsory this year and seeking an apology from the RO for them forgetting their place about the 100' Club's view on the RRS and SI's. That  club might be smaller if JC , who rumour says has had enough of this shit and will only be turning up in Brinders or Masseratti next year.

For two years in a row @LB 15 has promised me one of his socks to stick in my gob on getting to Hobart, but I keep forgetting the offer. My bad. For two years in a row he has been a online soldier defending Team WOXI with a online disrupter campaign using such things like the marital relations of a Labour Party leader and all should move on when I can't. That's genius. 

Anyway using my mate LB's disrupter lead to say goodbye to you all until next year I will borrow from ex Prime Minister Kevin  Rudd's good bye to Australia after getting the shaft. Though he did up our WOXI tax depreciation and marketing tax offsets a truckload to the extent 50 viewers on Channel 7 owned more of the wheel I was hanging onto this year. He said "And having said all that folks, we’ve got to zip".

So I will just say;  having said all that folks, we’ve got to split..

 

FIXED

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2 hours ago, LB 15 said:

I think we should reopen the Condor and Nirvana Protest from the 83 race.

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If that’s their AIS antenna on the right, not sure it passes the height requirements 

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13 minutes ago, olaf hart said:

I heard MR plans to claim the Raymarine defence....

 

A AIS RX only splitter. That won't go well.

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5 hours ago, jack_sparrow said:

Didn't seem to be nefarious but odd that RC protested presumably seeking a time penalty for proceeding without OK up to time RC gave the OK to proceed and or WOXI's HF was still not fully functioning. The IJ didn't think so. A comparison is some have not been allowed past Green Cape without a fully functioning HF and DSQ'd or Retired. There was one instance last year I recall.

 

3 hours ago, LB 15 said:

I think we should reopen the Condor and Nirvana Protest from the 83 race.

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LB you need to have a Bex and a lie down drawing your WOXI but blunt bow.

Putting aside you are drawing some comparison to a Protest heard by a Jury and decided nearly fucking 40 years ago and which both you and I know you were not on either boat, you now compare to a Protest 40 years later but never presented or heard? Give me strength.

If you want an aside Ted Turner was driving Condor who won the protest and Nirvana's being driven by Steve Colgate (sans Hutch overseeing) at the time of incident. The RC/Jury made a decision arguably on the basis who had the greater ability to make their life shit on a ruling between two OS boats.

The only thing you have got right posting that nonsense is in nearly 40 years nothing much has changed, except this is a local big boat gunfight now. It occurs no where else and people should wonder why.

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2 hours ago, albanyguy said:

From the Random Pic Thread.

I think Hobot found the problem on WOXI :lol::lol:

Chet-Huntley-with-Portable-Convention-Cam-1956.jpg

Albany that I think is a circa late 1950's overseas or Aust 1960's portable camera with a backpack microwave link. The only difference today is smaller camera, direct/live video and the backpack bit contains a auto focus transmitter to both comply with regulations regarding employing microwave in built up areas re interference and to avoid frying ones surrounds, albeit low powered and the backpack size now is around foolscape page size.

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3 hours ago, paps49 said:

I think Mark is so looking straight into Random's eyes in that pic,  I can see why your attracted.

That’s not nearly as funny as what I wrote. (:

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5 hours ago, paps49 said:

I think Mark is so looking straight into Random's eyes in that pic,  I can see why your attracted.

 

2 hours ago, LB 15 said:

That’s not nearly as funny as what I wrote. (:

I think you are both very wrong and very unfunny. This is very serious stuff.

If you closely follow the Tourettes trail, there are clearly two different oceans in one body happening here. I'm starting to think Randumb is the real MR having a outer body own-up I've done wrong experience via Randumb.

My guess is the only way to find out who is who, is check which one is wearing the 10, sorry 9 real Rolex's and not wearing the gimp gear.

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On 1/10/2019 at 2:06 PM, Mid said:

31 Dec 2018

We can prove, and will confirm in a week's time, that we were compromised by live-streaming from the helicopter.

Mark Richards

https://www.sail-world.com/news/213456/Wild-Oats-XIs-skipper-answers-critics-on-S2H-row

 

On 1/10/2019 at 3:18 PM, jack_sparrow said:

Mid stop bitchin and send Gladwell a text or email reminding him of this undertaking he got from MR and asking him if all his clocks are broken.

I should warn you Gladwell is a rules expert and stickler and my guess sees BJ as villian #1 in this saga. I therefore suspect he has a open mind like most should about WOXI, pending this evidence appearing.

Richard Gladwell

Mobile: +6421301030
Email: sailworldnzl@gmail.com or gladwell@icloud.com

Come on @Midit is time to get off your arse here. @DanimalNZ has got a techie ready to interrogate the techie here.

Mate drink a bucket of beer this weekend and send Gladwell that text or email that is burning a hole in your pocket as the OP to this thread.

Your thread has just hit a mind splitting 50,000 views in 2 weeks. Time to step up mate, no time for "I'm splitting" thoughts anymore.

On 1/8/2019 at 10:56 AM, DanimalNZ said:

Has the reasoning come out yet? 

I know an ex tv network engineer experienced in live transmission/broadcasting keen to hear the detail

 

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On 1/9/2019 at 1:46 AM, LB 15 said:

however nothing. It has been resolved you silly cunt. What planet are you on? Oats is back in its berth. The trophy is back on Hammo and MR is back at work. True you are still sitting in your dark little flat, pounding the keyboard with a vein throbbing on your forehead but the only thing you are likely to change is hands. 

And just to help your meltdown along...

Triumphant: Mark Richards hoists the J.H. Illingworth trophy after Wild Oats XI arrived in Hobart.

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MR is on EPO? That explains why they are so much better than all the other 100’s.

Lance only won 7...not 9 like Richo. 

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Sorry, but why doesn't an AUS investigative reporter look into this, interview all involved including the Channel 7 copter which allegedly announced "we blew your comms out", look into the actual Tx power of all cams covering the start, get access to WOXI's splitter to see if it was truly fried, review WOXi's & other's AIS signal record during the race,  look up the records concerning "our AIS has always been Transmitting in all our previous races",  a basic look into how AIS works between boats within 5 miles of each other and its reliability, etc.  It would seem to be newsworthy to do so.

But nay,  the PC has ruled no valid protest(s) were filed, case closed, WOXI is the line honors boat.  I stand with Comanche's claim  that they were disadvantaged  by WOXI's dark AIS; it was a breach of the SIs and should have been penalized, but they stood tall and did not protest feeling the race was won on the water, not in the room.  So all parties are exonerated,  except WOXI's ridiculous post race assertions their AIS was "blown out", "did not know", "we have proof",  "will publicize next week" media blather.  A sad state of affairs in a premier world sailboat race where the line honor boat did not RAF when informed they broke an SI during the race.

The stakes are high of course and at the highest levels pushing the edge of the rules is mandatory to win line honors, but the 2018 S2H will always have an asterisk after WOXI's trophy placement due to shutting off their AIS for the race, a cheap shot. I don't think it was deliberate,  although AIS has been required for years on the race, this is the first year it had to be transmitting 24/7.  WOXI missed that and went dark as I would on any race where transmitting my exact Lat-Lon, SOG & COG would give an advantage to my competition within 5-10 miles of me.

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On 1/10/2019 at 7:15 PM, paps49 said:

Welcome back Jissy, thanks for tonight's virtual load.

 

12 hours ago, Mid said:

take a closer look , there's a sock 

Christ the sock has a sock!

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51 minutes ago, axolotl said:

Sorry, but why doesn't an AUS investigative reporter look into this,

Because the one day series against India and the Australian Tennis open start today and we have pretty robust libel laws in this country. Apart from a few angry WO haters on this site, no one gives a fuck about the Race anymore. The story about yet another rugby league player banging some deranged slut is trending now. For 99.9% of Australians it is just a distraction during the lunch break of the boxing day test, and most use the break to have a dump and restack the fridge. News about the Sydney to Hobart race went into the Garbage bin over a week ago.

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31 minutes ago, lydia said:

Gold!!!

It is porcelain actually.

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36 minutes ago, LB 15 said:

Because the one day series against India and the Australian Tennis open start today and we have pretty robust libel laws in this country. Apart from a few angry WO haters on this site, no one gives a fuck about the Race anymore. The story about yet another rugby league player banging some deranged slut is trending now. For 99.9% of Australians it is just a distraction during the lunch break of the boxing day test, and most use the break to have a dump and restack the fridge. News about the Sydney to Hobart race went into the Garbage bin over a week ago.

plus there are precious few journalists these days -- they all got sacked.  Everything else is pulled off the wire.

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15 minutes ago, duncan (the other one) said:

plus there are precious few journalists these days -- they all got sacked.  Everything else is pulled off the wire.

There would be more getting sacked if they wasted time and money investigating something that no one cares about.

even current affair couldn’t make anything with this story. Now the marital problems for th former Loyal owner is a post race story they could and probably did run with

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35 minutes ago, duncan (the other one) said:

plus there are precious few journalists these days -- they all got sacked.  Everything else is pulled off the wire.

Yes, if any still exist that pen an inconvenient truth, will they soon be bought off or otherwise silenced?

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2 hours ago, axolotl said:

Sorry, but why doesn't an AUS investigative reporter look into this, interview all involved including the Channel 7 copter which allegedly announced "we blew your comms out", look into the actual Tx power of all cams covering the start, get access to WOXI's splitter to see if it was truly fried, review WOXi's & other's AIS signal record during the race,  look up the records concerning "our AIS has always been Transmitting in all our previous races",  a basic look into how AIS works between boats within 5 miles of each other and its reliability, etc.  It would seem to be newsworthy to do so

As you are serious the answer to that is three fold.

1. The general public have no interest in sailing and even if they did why would they possibly have any interest in questioning a result determined by an international jury. 

2. The sailing world is by and large a pretty conservative church. Many will accept that an IJ has made a decision and leave it at that. There may be many that have deciphered the damage done to the self policing aspect of sailing. However if they are coming to that conclusion honestly then WOXI is not the sole culprit.

All of the four 100 footers are guilty in varying degrees. Two idly standing by and doing nothing. One having a whinge but doing nothing. Finally in the absence of those three protesting, WOXI allowing it all to happen when they had the key to putting a stop to it by coming clean, particularly when the inevitable protest came from the RC. If what they said was true they had nothing to be fearful of in my opinion.

However WOXI took it a lot further by being highly critical of the RC for implementing the AIS provision in the race and for the RC protesting. The latter based upon the weird premise an invalid protest where nothing has been investigated and no ruling has been made has the same weight as one where it has. That's called bullying and appalling behaviour, not rule breaking.

Finally there is the aspect of the RC making arguably a weak protest knowing it was doomed to fail and taking nearly 12 hours to do so without collecting a shred of evidence to enable it to prosecute a valid protest independent of a competitor.

Notwithstanding that I think you would be hard pressed to find any member of the sailing public openly come out and push for an investigation and in fact why should they?

Isn't that the job of Australian Sailing and World Sailing if people are of that view? However I wouldn't want to be hanging by the nuts for administrators of this sport to prosecute an enquiry or even a protest under its own rules that may show its premier offshore event is rotting from the head down. If there is serious journalistic interest in the matter, then I would knocking on Australia Sailing's door, no-one elses.

3. With the above in mind WOXI might be the biggest villian but is not the only villian. The problem then is Australia is one of the few countries in the world with no history of witch hunting. It doesn't have a Salem Massachusetts, a Angéle de la Barthe from Toulouse, Petronilla de Meath from Kilkenny, or the Chelmsford and Pendle Witches of England.

So the prospects of there being a whip around to buy some matches are pretty low.

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2 hours ago, LB 15 said:

Apart from a few angry WO haters on this site, no one gives a fuck about the Race anymore.

 

1 hour ago, hoppy said:

There would be more getting sacked if they wasted time and money investigating something that no one cares about.

Well actually not quite right. This thread has been trending around 100 - 200 views an hour and on average 7 posts per  hour since inception.

There has only been a dozen posts in the last 10 hours, interestingly nearly half are from you two. Yet views are still around the 100 per hour.

Might not be punters, but someone out there is interested. That or a lot of people are stalking you both.

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1 hour ago, jack_sparrow said:

 

Well actually not quite right. This thread has been trending around 100 - 200 views an hour and on average 7 posts per  hour since inception.

There has only been a dozen posts in the last 10 hours, interestingly nearly half are from you two. Yet views are still around the 100 per hour.

Might not be punters, but someone out there is interested. That or a lot of people are stalking you both.

Jack just like the people who stop to stare at a car crash they are not interested in who is to blame, they only want to watch the carnage unfold. But scooter did send me a bunch of flowers this morning so we must be doing something right. 

Pity Randumb is not here to post pictures of people smoking and to call me a shill for Hammo island. Fuck - I forgot to fill his water bowl up this morning and give him his roofies. 

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9 minutes ago, LB 15 said:

Jack just like the people who stop to stare at a car crash they are not interested in who is to blame, they only want to watch the carnage unfold. But scooter did send me a bunch of flowers this morning so we must be doing something right. 

Pity Randumb is not here to post pictures of people smoking and to call me a shill for Hammo island. Fuck - I forgot to fill his water bowl up this morning and give him his roofies. 

Don’t forget the fish heads..

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