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Derek Zoolander in Capris gracefully holding the roller-furling line on the bow of some 50-ton 1970s battle wagon. 

I guess this is the kind of ad you can expect now that Musto is owned by a Canadian company better known as a purveyor of hockey nets and C$100 barbecues to rural Albertans? 

Amazed Seahorse would give this a two-page spread. Good stuff. 

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32 minutes ago, Ricky Craven said:

 

Amazed Seahorse would give this a two-page spread.

 

 

It's an easy thing to figure out. Canadian Tire gives Seahorse a ton of money, Seahorse prints ad to fund its magazine. Readers rejoice. 

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I sent them an e-mail as they seemed to have stopped making mid and base layers as none are available on their web site any more.  No reply I tried to buy some over the holidays but everything was sold out. Hope this isn't the death of a great brand...

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24 minutes ago, fan said:

I sent them an e-mail as they seemed to have stopped making mid and base layers as none are available on their web site any more.  No reply I tried to buy some over the holidays but everything was sold out. Hope this isn't the death of a great brand...

Probably are just in the process of rebranding Helly base layers with Musto. Give them a bit of time.

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BITD Musto and Henri Lloyd were the top of the line in high quality foul weather gear.  HL has fallen on hard times recently.  Now it seems Musto has also.  Is this a reflection of a lower demand for top quality gear, more competition (Gill, Zhik,  etc.), both, or something else completely?

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11 minutes ago, J28 said:

BITD Musto and Henri Lloyd were the top of the line in high quality foul weather gear.  HL has fallen on hard times recently.  Now it seems Musto has also.  Is this a reflection of a lower demand for top quality gear, more competition (Gill, Zhik,  etc.), both, or something else completely?

with musto it's been a lot of horsing around with trying to move their production to china, get into west marine, then gave up on both and moved production back to Poland. Then it got bought by HH. Not sure how much the competition is hurting them, it's only Musto and HL that are selling GoreTex, i think.... and if you're gonna spend several hundred dollars on gear I have trouble justifying not buying goretex (consequently, I don't own a goretex top layer because i won't spend several hundred.... just a few hundred). In other words, I wouldn't buy top of the line Gill because it's not goretex, if i did feel like spending money for top tier stuff. 

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Henri Lloyd has its own reorganization issues since it’s bankruptcy.  Their USA online sales website based in Georgia now says it is “Under Construction.”  Just a month ago they were having a 50% off sale on nearly everything.  Hope you got your gear back then.    

https://www.henrilloyd.com/blog/henri-lloyd-gears-up-for-premium-relaunch   

You can now expect prices to be 25% to 30% higher and with fewer approved HL retailers. 

“Sailing-inspired fashion brand Henri Lloyd is planning an upmarket relaunch under its new Swedish owners, Drapers can reveal. 

Established in Manchester in 1963, Henri Lloyd was bought in a pre-pack administration [bankruptcy] by Aligro UK, a subsidiary of Swedish firm Aligro Group, in June. [2018] 

Shortly afterwards, the former chief executive of Swedish sports fashion distributor Sportmanship, Magnus Liljeblad, was appointed CEO of Henri Lloyd, which is now headquartered in Gothenburg. 

Liljeblad is now moving the brand upmarket and imposing a renewed focus on quality and its sailing heritage. Although wholesale prices are yet to be finalised, they will rise by between 25% and 30% compared with its previous collections.” 

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HH seems to be shit recently too.

Several years back I bought some of their gear,  and it seemed to be top notch and I actually still wear it regularly.

Lately all I see from them is the crew jacket and really cheap duffels at cheap outlet malls.

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1 hour ago, Morgan Crewed said:

Henri Lloyd has its own reorganization issues since it’s bankruptcy.  Their USA online sales website based in Georgia now says it is “Under Construction.”  Just a month ago they were having a 50% off sale on nearly everything.  Hope you got your gear back then.    

https://www.henrilloyd.com/blog/henri-lloyd-gears-up-for-premium-relaunch   

You can now expect prices to be 25% to 30% higher and with fewer approved HL retailers. 

“Sailing-inspired fashion brand Henri Lloyd is planning an upmarket relaunch under its new Swedish owners, Drapers can reveal. 

Established in Manchester in 1963, Henri Lloyd was bought in a pre-pack administration [bankruptcy] by Aligro UK, a subsidiary of Swedish firm Aligro Group, in June. [2018] 

Shortly afterwards, the former chief executive of Swedish sports fashion distributor Sportmanship, Magnus Liljeblad, was appointed CEO of Henri Lloyd, which is now headquartered in Gothenburg. 

Liljeblad is now moving the brand upmarket and imposing a renewed focus on quality and its sailing heritage. Although wholesale prices are yet to be finalised, they will rise by between 25% and 30% compared with its previous collections.” 

I assume you man premium prices for HL gear since HH seems to have gone down market significantly recently. On the other hand the HL gear I have purchased the past few years does not come close in quality to the gear from more than 5 years ago.

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I'm in a bit of a pickle, I'm in need of new gear. I'll pay for gore-tex having spent enough time wet and cold. What to buy??

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I have some Musto MOX that seems to be ok.if  it’s still Gore-Tex I would try it.

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if money was no object, I'd look into Mustang.  They have 3 and 4 layer membrane waterproofing for some of their kit.

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21 hours ago, Godzilla said:

HH seems to be shit recently too.... Lately all I see from them is the crew jacket and really cheap duffels at cheap outlet malls.

With super-tacky labeling plastered all over everything, too.

Is it really necessary to have large "HH" branding on the outside right collar, right bicep and left rear shoulder, as well as "Helly Hansen" emblazoned on the left sleeve cuff, right inside collar, and rear outside collar? :wacko:

helly_hansen_crew_jacket_navy.jpg

 

 

Helly-Hansen-Mens-Crew-Midlayer-Rain-and

 

If we must serve as a walking advertisement for their products, they can pay us for that privilege.

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I like my Musto, but I like hockey nets too, so it is all good.

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On 1/10/2019 at 6:53 PM, bloodshot said:

if money was no object, I'd look into Mustang.  They have 3 and 4 layer membrane waterproofing for some of their kit.

Their EP line?  I saw a “coastal” type jacket from that line on the Team One Newport website.  

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1 hour ago, J28 said:

Their EP line?  I saw a “coastal” type jacket from that line on the Team One Newport website.  

The EP looks amazing, but I'd  probably be fine with the Meris.

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22 hours ago, 10thTonner said:

I bought an MPX salopette last year. It's Gore-Tex. I just love it.

 

Holy shit!!  Just googled that and prices were $433 to $650!!!   I just hit the annual Defender Sale in March and get my gear on the cheap and often.  Name brand decent stuff for my mostly "fair weather" racing.  Henry Lloyd for 29 bucks.  And when I wore a hole in my $90 padded shorts, I took them to a canvas shop and had a new vinyl seat sewn on for $40.

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5 hours ago, billy backstay said:

 

Holy shit!!  Just googled that and prices were $433 to $650!!!   I just hit the annual Defender Sale in March and get my gear on the cheap and often.  Name brand decent stuff for my mostly "fair weather" racing.  Henry Lloyd for 29 bucks.  And when I wore a hole in my $90 padded shorts, I took them to a canvas shop and had a new vinyl seat sewn on for $40.

Mine was about 444€. Yes, thats expensive but I am planning to wear it until I die in it some 140 years from now. 

Seriuosly, I asked around and everybody told me if you want to sit in a wet place and keep your arse dry for longer periods of time, you'll have to spend at least 300 - 400. I have no-name gumboots that I throw away when they start to smell and I just disopsed of a 49€ Caterpillar jacket that was astonishingly good as long as it lasted. But don't mess with pants! I didn't regret buying that one for a second.  

 

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On 1/11/2019 at 10:05 AM, crankcall said:

I'm in a bit of a pickle, I'm in need of new gear. I'll pay for gore-tex having spent enough time wet and cold. What to buy??

plenty of NOS musto gear around .. worth a search.

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Canadian Tire now owns Musto??

Christ on a bike! 

I’ve been drunk longer than I thought.

Maybe now I pay for an offshore smock with all my old Canadian Tire money...

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On 1/10/2019 at 11:51 AM, mustang__1 said:

with musto it's been a lot of horsing around with trying to move their production to china, get into west marine, then gave up on both and moved production back to Poland. Then it got bought by HH. Not sure how much the competition is hurting them, it's only Musto and HL that are selling GoreTex, i think.... and if you're gonna spend several hundred dollars on gear I have trouble justifying not buying goretex (consequently, I don't own a goretex top layer because i won't spend several hundred.... just a few hundred). In other words, I wouldn't buy top of the line Gill because it's not goretex, if i did feel like spending money for top tier stuff. 

i wonder if this will find a way into sailing gear...

https://www.thenorthface.com/featured/futurelight.html

 

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In Fall 2019, we’re launching the world’s most advanced breathable-waterproof outerwear technology. Futurelight will redefine the future of technical outerwear and change how you experience waterproof performance.

 

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On 1/12/2019 at 7:39 AM, bloodshot said:

The EP looks amazing, but I'd  probably be fine with the Meris.

The EP is amazing! Dongfeng had some, Comanche wore it. That stuff is crazy good. The Meris is a rad alternative and at a much better price. Super bomber 4 layer kept me dry through a bunch of liquid sunshine days in the PNW. Highly recommend Mustang’s Meris.

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On 1/24/2019 at 12:42 PM, Grande Mastere Dreade said:

i wonder if this will find a way into sailing gear...

https://www.thenorthface.com/featured/futurelight.html

 

 

The issue with outdoor brands is the salt & durability issue of marine environments. If brands can solve those issues with future light then yeah, it’ll make it to foulies 

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