Nailing Malarkey Too

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7 hours ago, Recidivist said:

.  To be sure, as Toecutter pointed out, temperature isn't the only factor as the article he linked shows.

You aren't doing yourself any favours by sticking to your dogma (hey, finally a link to religion!) just because you DON'T WANT to recognise that climate change is a real thing.

Climate change is real. Sea level rises 2.2mm per year.  Temp increases steadily since the last mini ice age.

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33 minutes ago, warbird said:

Climate change is real. Sea level rises 2.2mm per year.  Temp increases steadily since the last mini ice age.

The only part I deny is :

  1. That science is ever settled.
  2. That bias only infects skeptics
  3. That Climate Change is more science than policy
  4. That any currently proposed solution will have any impact on the climate of the future.
  5. That all anthropologically induced feedbacks are positive. i.e I believe the planet it better at regulating its temperature than we are at disrupting it. 
  6. That climate science is a pure search for the truth and not goal driven with the conclusion already determined. 
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27 minutes ago, warbird said:

Climate change is real. Sea level rises 2.2mm per year.  Temp increases steadily since the last mini ice age.

Steady? Look at the last 50 years, anything like that in the preceding 22000 years?

https://xkcd.com/1732/

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19 minutes ago, VhmSays said:

Steady? Look at the last 50 years, anything like that in the preceding 22000 years?

https://xkcd.com/1732/

Look at the last 170 years of unadjusted data.

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"How good would your healthcare system be without the medicines, equipment, diagnostics, and procedures created within the American Capitalist For-Profit World? "

As good as the medicine in the countries with socialized medicine. 

Country and regions Both sexes
rank
Both sexes life
expectancy
Female 
rank
Female life 
expectancy
Male 
rank
Male life 
expectancy
Both sexes
rank (HALE)
Both sexes life
expectancy (HALE)
23px-Flag_of_Japan.svg.png Japan 1 83.7 1 86.8 6 80.5 1 74.9
16px-Flag_of_Switzerland.svg.png  Switzerland 2 83.4 6 85.3 1 81.3 4 73.1
23px-Flag_of_Singapore.svg.png Singapore 3 83.1 2 86.1 10 80.0 2 73.9
23px-Flag_of_Australia.svg.png Australia 4 82.8 7 84.8 3 80.9 15 71.9
23px-Flag_of_Spain.svg.png Spain 4 82.8 3 85.5 9 80.1 9 72.4
21px-Flag_of_Iceland.svg.png Iceland 6 82.7 10 84.1 2 81.2 7 72.7
23px-Flag_of_Italy.svg.png Italy 6 82.7 7 84.8 6 80.5 5 72.8
21px-Flag_of_Israel.svg.png Israel 8 82.5 9 84.3 5 80.6 5 72.8
23px-Flag_of_Sweden.svg.png Sweden 9 82.4 12 84.0 4 80.7 12 72.0
23px-Flag_of_France.svg.png France 9 82.4 5 85.4 16 79.4 8 72.6
23px-Flag_of_South_Korea.svg.png South Korea 11 82.3 3 85.5 20 78.8 3 73.2
23px-Flag_of_Canada.svg.png Canada 12 82.2 10 84.1 8 80.2 10 72.3
23px-Flag_of_Luxembourg.svg.png Luxembourg 13 82.0 12 84.0 13 79.8 17 71.8
23px-Flag_of_the_Netherlands.svg.png Netherlands 14 81.9 20 83.6 10 80.0 11 72.2
21px-Flag_of_Norway.svg.png Norway 15 81.8 17 83.7 13 79.8 12 72.0
23px-Flag_of_Malta.svg.png Malta 16 81.7 17 83.7 15 79.7 18 71.7
23px-Flag_of_New_Zealand.svg.png New Zealand 17 81.6 26 83.3 10 80.0 19 71.6
23px-Flag_of_Austria.svg.png Austria 18 81.5 14 83.9 19 79.0 12 72.0
23px-Flag_of_Ireland.svg.png Ireland 19 81.4 23 83.4 16 79.4 20 71.5
23px-Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom.svg.png United Kingdom 20 81.2 27 83.0 16 79.4 21 71.4
23px-Flag_of_Belgium_%28civil%29.svg.png Belgium 21 81.1 22 83.5 22 78.6 26 71.1
23px-Flag_of_Finland.svg.png Finland 21 81.1 16 83.8 24 78.3 28 71.0
23px-Flag_of_Portugal.svg.png Portugal 21 81.1 14 83.9 27 78.2 21 71.4
23px-Flag_of_Germany.svg.png Germany 24 81.0 23 83.4 21 78.7 23 71.3
23px-Flag_of_Greece.svg.png Greece 24 81.0 20 83.6 24 78.3 15 71.9
23px-Flag_of_Slovenia.svg.png Slovenia 26 80.8 17 83.7 28 77.9 26 71.1
20px-Flag_of_Denmark.svg.png Denmark 27 80.6 29 82.5 22 78.6 25 71.2
23px-Flag_of_Cyprus.svg.png Cyprus 28 80.5 28 82.7 24 78.3 23 71.3
23px-Flag_of_Chile.svg.png Chile 28 80.5 23 83.4 29 77.4 29 70.4
23px-Flag_of_Costa_Rica.svg.png Costa Rica 30 79.6 30 82.2 31 77.1 31 69.7
23px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png United States 31 79.3 33 81.6 32 76.9 36 69.1

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3 hours ago, Nailing Malarkey Too said:

The only part I deny is :

  1. That science is ever settled.
  2. That bias only infects skeptics
  3. That Climate Change is more science than policy
  4. That any currently proposed solution will have any impact on the climate of the future.
  5. That all anthropologically induced feedbacks are positive. i.e I believe the planet it better at regulating its temperature than we are at disrupting it. 
  6. That climate science is a pure search for the truth and not goal driven with the conclusion already determined. 

Germ theory denialism has similar arguments, go figure.

99 surgeons recommend surgery but there's 1 who thinks it's just due to your spine being out of alignment and recommends a chiropractionar or homeopathy or standing on your head till the hernia learns it's natural location what do you do?

Base policies on what the majority of the people who have spent their lives studying that subject tell us. Stop arguing about the grammar of a language you can neither read nor speak.

"A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything."
Friedrich Nietzsche

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8 hours ago, Nailing Malarkey Too said:

How good would your healthcare system be without the medicines, equipment, diagnostics, and procedures created within the American Capitalist For-Profit World? 

Deflection alert - you're an idiot. The Canadian hc system is just as capitalistic as US Medicare. 

You're not gonna defend those murderous (opiods) thieves at big Pharma too, are you? 

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And another thing that we must never forget about the US Reich . . 

They promised for years to abolish "Obamacare" and replace it with something "much better" (and not just Trump) 

They have done exactly NOTHING to implement their promises (they pledged to lower drug prices too). 

Well, their wrecking crew is still hard at work on abolishing, but the "better" system - nowhere in sight. 

Their evil duplicity has and is resulting in needless suffering and death - not to mention a million personal bankruptcies a year. 

And now they want to come off as all authoritative about health care . . 

Gag me - what scum they are, way beneath contempt. 

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