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10 hours ago, J28 said:

Butt out asshole.  I was referring to a post made by someone else, you insignificant fool.

Manners!..you insignificant obsolete tool. 

Someone needs to slap down some of these socks, they're getting above themselves. 

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4 hours ago, Navig8tor said:

Do you honestly think Donnie did not help it grow?

No the tea partiers started the divide, trump just ensured the division.

Think the pendulum is swinging back now hopefully.

I never said he didn't help it grow.  Of course he did.  As has every administration and congress since - well forever in recent history.  

This most definitely did not start with the Party O' Tea.

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"As has every administration and congress since - well forever in recent history.  "

This is, I think, false equivalency. What it Clinton  do that was as divisive as Newt's shutdown or impeachment over a blowjob; what did Obama do that was as divisive as "Our only job is to make him a one term president" or the hold up of Garland? Not talking about policy disagreement but the venomous personal attacks. "Both sides do it" is generally a weak excuse for bad behavior.

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1 hour ago, Shortforbob said:

Manners!..you insignificant obsolete tool. 

Someone needs to slap down some of these socks, they're getting above themselves. 

There is NO ONE more insignificant than you Meli, including dear departed Boo (RIP).

Down under clown....

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40 minutes ago, J28 said:

There is NO ONE more insignificant than you Meli, including dear departed Boo (RIP).

Down under clown....

Kicking a poor woman's dead dog? How Trumpian of you.

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2 hours ago, Shootist Jeff said:

I never said he didn't help it grow.  Of course he did.  As has every administration and congress since - well forever in recent history.  

This most definitely did not start with the Party O' Tea.

Nope, the mindless partisan shrieking of hatred against Democrat Presidents began sometime around Woodrow Wilson.

The impeachment of Nixon accelerated it, as did the incredible wealth harvested by Rush Limbaugh.

It's a rough parallel to the TV preachers hollerin' bullshit fer Jeeeeezus, getting showered with dollars by all the fearful dumbasses.

There really isn't a Democratic Party equivalent, although there's a fair amount of leftie assholishness nowadays in response. A lot of people were really fed up by the Republican response to Obama. IMHO it's not a good way to go.

-DSK

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4 hours ago, Bus Driver said:

The divide really started with the 1994 election cycle. 

I was going to argue that it started in earnest when Burr killed Hamilton.  But then there was the Revolutionary war, and Tories hanging around, and the Whiskey tax rebellion, and slavery, and it’s war actual war.  I’d say the sides have been set for a long time, even if their names have changed.  Think about Roosevelt’s quip “I welcome their hate.”  They are still here, rooting for Trump.  

 

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6 hours ago, Bus Driver said:

The divide really started with the 1994 election cycle. 

You have to look at 1994 as coming out of the 1992 election of Bill Clinton and the marketed narrative amongst Republicans that GHWBush lost the presidency because he wasn't ideologically pure enough. It was an effective, and very self-interested, narrative for the political elite. Since then it's mostly been a virtuous cycle of increasing extremism for the Republican party - that they've coupled with a strong, loyal, organized national party.

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6 hours ago, Bus Driver said:

The divide really started with the 1994 election cycle. 

Exactly - the real blame can be laid at the feet of Gingrich.

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2 hours ago, badlatitude said:
3 hours ago, J28 said:

There is NO ONE more insignificant than you Meli, including dear departed Boo (RIP).

Down under clown....

Kicking a poor woman's dead dog? How Trumpian of you.

No-one here combines stupid AND nasty quite as well as Jerk28

I mean really - of all the numerous different boats J-Boats has built, he selects the single biggest dog.

'Nuff said.

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"Exactly - the real blame can be laid at the feet of Gingrich."

I agree that the modern version certainly has his, as well as Hastert's, fingerprints all over.

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3 hours ago, badlatitude said:
4 hours ago, J28 said:

There is NO ONE more insignificant than you Meli, including dear departed Boo (RIP).

Down under clown....

Kicking a poor woman's dead dog? How Trumpian of you.

BOO IS DEAD????  WTF???

Meli, what the hell did you do to Boo??

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8 minutes ago, Shootist Jeff said:

BOO IS DEAD????  WTF???

Meli, what the hell did you do to Boo??

Last seen running from a butcher in North Melbourne

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1 hour ago, learningJ24 said:

"Exactly - the real blame can be laid at the feet of Gingrich."

I agree that the modern version certainly has his, as well as Hastert's, fingerprints all over.

Spiro Agnew was the role model for where the right is now, warts and all.

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Great - use a guy who was literally taking bribes in the WH while VP as your role model.

The party of Christian morality. :rolleyes:

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I’ve always wondered how predators fit into the CHRISTIAN WORLD VIEW.  Any evangelicals here who support Trump?

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“A defiant Pelosi starts to swim to Afghanistan.”

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27 minutes ago, Amati said:

I’ve always wondered how predators fit into the CHRISTIAN WORLD VIEW.  Any evangelicals here who support Trump?

God Forbid.

Evangelicals on this heathen website?

They would have to cleanse themselves afterwards.

A place where opinions and views are freely expressed without their pastors input?

No they behave themselves and they do what their pastor tells them to do.

Once they have heard their Pastor they send half their hard earned cash to him.

Then they settle in for an informative lecture on the perils of politics presented by Rush or Hannity.

They are not allowed to change channels because their Pastor has told them the others are sinful and promote immoral behaviour like actually thinking.:D

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I think George W. a better poster child for the right,  a do nothing 1st son  that 'came to Jesus" then ascended the political rungs on his granddaddy's and daddy's coattails without intent to do anything.

As for the Christian world view; the first observation has to be that Christianity is morally neutral. Anything from "Kill them all, God will know his own" to "As you treat the least of us so you treat me" is perfectly justifiable, and has been justified. Evangelicals carry an additional load in that they believe that ALL people are sinners (Hobbesian) and forgiveness unlimited. The worst examples of humanity JUSTIFY their world view of the sinfulness of humanity and the only unforgivable is not asking for forgiveness.  It's how a local pastor/legislator could justify luring a boy to a hotel room with promises of drugs and money and still be a godly person.

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22 hours ago, Barnacle Balls said:

 

the party who mandates healthcare for starters. 

I could list a hundred bullet points....but you'd poo poo them all.

Nobody mandated healthcare.  Obama, Pelosi and Reid mandated the purchase of Health Insurance.

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13 minutes ago, chum said:

 

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“A defiant Pelosi starts to swim to Afghanistan.”

You still going to try and pretend you aren't a fucking idiot rightwinger easily swung by memes and bullshit?

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I thought it was funny. I’ll try to find some funny lefty stuff.

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35 minutes ago, learningJ24 said:

I think George W. a better poster child for the right,  a do nothing 1st son  that 'came to Jesus" then ascended the political rungs on his granddaddy's and daddy's coattails without intent to do anything.

As for the Christian world view; the first observation has to be that Christianity is morally neutral. Anything from "Kill them all, God will know his own" to "As you treat the least of us so you treat me" is perfectly justifiable, and has been justified. Evangelicals carry an additional load in that they believe that ALL people are sinners (Hobbesian) and forgiveness unlimited. The worst examples of humanity JUSTIFY their world view of the sinfulness of humanity and the only unforgivable is not asking for forgiveness.  It's how a local pastor/legislator could justify luring a boy to a hotel room with promises of drugs and money and still be a godly person.

It is telling, then, that the parable with whichTrump regaled the crowd  (The Farmer and the Viper) ) is Aesopian and pre Christian-  not the Snake and the Farmer, which at least holds out the possibility of comity.

Trump is the Viper.  Why give him anything?  He will never change.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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40 minutes ago, chum said:

 

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“A defiant Pelosi starts to swim to Afghanistan.”

No, she was sure she could walk there.

 

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She can’t swim the ocean - those saggy tits would drag on the bottom.

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1 hour ago, J28 said:

She can’t swim the ocean - those saggy tits would drag on the bottom.

Tump on the other hand could float there like a Portuguese man of war.

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2 hours ago, d'ranger said:

Saorsa's comment was clever. Jrk28 was just another pathetic attempt to insult. 

Being clever requires intelligence. 

No wonder J28 comes up short. 

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5 hours ago, Saorsa said:

Nobody mandated healthcare.  Obama, Pelosi and Reid mandated the purchase of Health Insurance.

Nobody offered healthcare. They offered the possibility of healthcare, at a cost.

 It is the obligation of those who can, to do.

This is fundamental Christianity. If you have a loaf of bread, and a shank of meat and a family comes along hungry and tired... You share. If you have water, you share. You don't have to go to extremes and put yourself in jeopardy, but if you can spare, then share.

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4 hours ago, Bus Driver said:

Being clever requires intelligence. 

No wonder J28 comes up short. 

All the right wingers come up short.

That's why they never post anything funny.

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3 hours ago, Mrleft8 said:

Nobody offered healthcare. They offered the possibility of healthcare, at a cost.

 It is the obligation of those who can, to do.

This is fundamental Christianity. If you have a loaf of bread, and a shank of meat and a family comes along hungry and tired... You share. If you have water, you share. You don't have to go to extremes and put yourself in jeopardy, but if you can spare, then share.

Fuck that - the proper Republican attitude is More For Me.

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On 1/17/2019 at 5:16 PM, Fah Kiew Tu said:

Now just *why* do you guys keep giving the Senate fuckwit McConnell a free pass? If he put the legislation up for a vote things could progress.

Currently TRUMP is irrelevant if the Senate actually did its job. He'd only become relevant by vetoing the bill. Then it'd be a question of compromise or sufficient to override his veto.

McConnell is a spineless puppet and should either do his job or fuck off out of the way. His colleagues are equally gutless for not removing him.

FKT

Agreed but McConnell can go out for donuts and coffee it is probably all he is good for in any case. 

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You foreigners apparently don’t understand how things work in Washington.  Perhaps you are not aware he’s the guy who is driving Trump’s judicial nominations - including 2 new justices - though the Senate, with potentially more to come.  So he’s not spineless,  or gutless, he’s not a puppet, and he’s extremely capable at what he is focused on. Taken together those nominations will have a negative  effect on the Democrat Party’s attempt to change law through interpretation in the courts rather than by passing legislation.

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28 minutes ago, HuronBouy said:
On 1/17/2019 at 5:16 PM, Fah Kiew Tu said:

Now just *why* do you guys keep giving the Senate fuckwit McConnell a free pass? If he put the legislation up for a vote things could progress.

Currently TRUMP is irrelevant if the Senate actually did its job. He'd only become relevant by vetoing the bill. Then it'd be a question of compromise or sufficient to override his veto.

McConnell is a spineless puppet and should either do his job or fuck off out of the way. His colleagues are equally gutless for not removing him.

FKT

Agreed but McConnell can go out for donuts and coffee it is probably all he is good for in any case. 

Sen. McConnell is a prty animal, first and foremost. His overriding concern, far above country and statesmanship, is to shepherd himself and his party towards the maximum attainable political power. Right now, anything he does is going to diminish it, because President Trump is carrying the ball.

From his point of view, it makes sense to just sit tight. Just like it made sense, from his point of view, to sit on Obama's Supreme Court nominations. Fuck the country, and double fuck Constitutional principles. That shit is for losers!

1 minute ago, J28 said:

You foreigners apparently don’t understand how things work in Washington.  Perhaps you are not aware he’s the guy who is driving Trump’s judicial nominations - including 2 new justices - though the Senate, with potentially more to come.  So he’s not spineless,  or gutless, he’s not a puppet, and he’s extremely capable at what he is focused on. Taken together those nominations will have a negative  effect on the Democrat Party’s attempt to change law through interpretation in the courts rather than by passing legislation.

Correct. For example, if the Supreme Court gives the Republican-controlled states a pass on gerrymandering, and a pass on vote supression, the Republican overlords can give up the pretense of democracy and NEVER surrender their power. A Democratic Congress can pass all the laws it wants, but as Supreme Court made up of Scalia-like assholes will just laugh and make sure those laws never have any effect. The lower judiciary has even more influence, but stuff will end up in front of the Supremes. It just keeps circling round and round until the gunz come out.

-DSK

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56 minutes ago, Steam Flyer said:

Sen. McConnell is a prty animal, first and foremost. His overriding concern, far above country and statesmanship, is to shepherd himself and his party towards the maximum attainable political power. Right now, anything he does is going to diminish it, because President Trump is carrying the ball.

From his point of view, it makes sense to just sit tight. Just like it made sense, from his point of view, to sit on Obama's Supreme Court nominations. Fuck the country, and double fuck Constitutional principles. That shit is for losers!

Correct. For example, if the Supreme Court gives the Republican-controlled states a pass on gerrymandering, and a pass on vote supression, the Republican overlords can give up the pretense of democracy and NEVER surrender their power. A Democratic Congress can pass all the laws it wants, but as Supreme Court made up of Scalia-like assholes will just laugh and make sure those laws never have any effect. The lower judiciary has even more influence, but stuff will end up in front of the Supremes. It just keeps circling round and round until the gunz come out.

-DSK

Share with the class the names of current Democrat Senate and House members who are not trying to attain “maximum attainable political power”.  (BTW - please check you confirmation bias at the door before you reply.)

TIA

 

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1 minute ago, J28 said:

Share with the class the names of current Democrat Senate and House members who are not trying to attain “maximum attainable political power”.  (BTW - please check you confirmation bias at the door before you reply.)

TIA

Priorities, dumbass.

Capitalism entails seeking mo' money. But what are your priorities in seeking it? When you get a gun and rob a bank, you've prioritized rather poorly.

Of course politicians seek power. But where do they place their highest priorities? McConnell puts pursuit of power above all else, above things like the health of his constituents and/or the good of the country. If there are any Democrats currently in the Congress that feel the same way, it's not as obvious.

-DSK

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2 hours ago, J28 said:

Share with the class the names of current Democrat Senate and House members who are not trying to attain “maximum attainable political power”.  (BTW - please check you confirmation bias at the door before you reply.)

TIA

 

In NJ, progressives stopped an effort to gerrymander the state in Democrats favor. So you see, it’s not just leadership who can drive change, it’s average citizens. Can you show an example of Republicans banding together to halt their leadership’s drive to gerrymander and attain hegemony?

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4 hours ago, Steam Flyer said:

Priorities, dumbass.

Capitalism entails seeking mo' money. But what are your priorities in seeking it? When you get a gun and rob a bank, you've prioritized rather poorly.

Of course politicians seek power. But where do they place their highest priorities? McConnell puts pursuit of power above all else, above things like the health of his constituents and/or the good of the country. If there are any Democrats currently in the Congress that feel the same way, it's not as obvious.

-DSK

Names....Still waiting for names.  Just one even.

TIA

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