Antrim 27's, how many

[Mike in CT 15]

Curious if anyone knows how many Antrim 27's were made

[Raz'r 3,264]

Not sure, but I hear there’s a new one being built. Carbon.

[Mike in CT 15]

Wow, that will be cool but pricey. I guess it makes sense since there do not seem to be any used ones available. 

[SuddenlyBrown 23]

I believe there are at least 25 hulls made. One popped up for sale over the winter and I was able to snatch it up. A very spontaneous decision as I will a two boat owner now, second boat is a U20 

[Mike in CT 15]

In my search for a new boat I was thinking an A27 would fit the bill and was surprised to see there are none available. 

 

[Je Prefere 5]

Try bellingham, wa craigslist

 

[Mike in CT 15]

Ha! of course. Murphy's law is in full affect in my boat search. Any boat I'm even remotely interested in will inevitably be as far away as possible.  

[SuddenlyBrown 23]

If you really are set on an A27, you should just get that one in WA. They do not come up all too often. Maybe the happiness of a new boat will counter the stress of getting it transported across the country.

[Mike in CT 15]

25 minutes ago, SuddenlyBrown said:

If you really are set on an A27, you should just get that one in WA. They do not come up all too often. Maybe the happiness of a new boat will counter the stress of getting it transported across the country.

You are probably right. 

[pilotdave 8]

I bet it won't cost too much on uship.com !

[Aquila11 11]

On 4/9/2019 at 9:09 AM, Mike in CT said:

Curious if anyone knows how many Antrim 27's were made

The owners group website shows 27 were built. I've got hull #11.

[#13 27]

Aloha, one and all!  Seem to recall that 26 were made, and a 27 is being made out of carbon right now, with the purpose of being raced doublehanded to Hawaii in 2020.  If she's kept in Hawaii, that will make 3 there.

I'm the original owner of hull 13, "Cascade", on SF Bay.  Aquila11, hoping to sail with you this July 4th when I'm in your neck of the woods.

Best place to exchange information is our FB page:  https://www.facebook.com/Antrim-27-Association-122443377775275/

Cheers,

[Pointy End 22]

[inboard 1]

Hull number 4 happily lake sailing in the okanogan ,if you like sailing get the Antrim if you you want to save money I'm sure there's probably a mcgregger closer to your neck of the woods 

[#13 27]

4 hours ago, inboard said:

Hull number 4 happily lake sailing in the okanogan ,if you like sailing get the Antrim if you you want to save money I'm sure there's probably a mcgregger closer to your neck of the woods 

What is she currently named?  Original name was "Owslarah", from Watership Down, the next owner (Graham) played off that by naming her "Killer Rabbit". 

[inboard 1]

Hull#4   BAD DOG

[#13 27]

Nicely done.  Did you change from stainless to aluminum stanchions and pulpits?  If so, most of us switch to vertical stern pulpits, as getting weight aft on SF Bay is important.  Pics over on the FB page of mine.

[Varan 1,727]

Is bad dog doing WIRW again?

[inboard 1]

#13, no just painted the stainless stantions and I can see why you'd go to a vertical rear pulpit but we here on the lake probably on a rule get less breeze than the bay mostly between 10- 15 knots and as much as the Dog loves a breeze we really sail light air the majority of the time . Varan, won't be doing Whidbey (sad) but there's a good chance of doing the new race next year in Point Roberts

[#13 27]

Thanks inboard.  Make sure you guys are linked to us in Facebook and the Yahoo group online.

[Varan 1,727]

4 hours ago, inboard said:

#13, no just painted the stainless stantions and I can see why you'd go to a vertical rear pulpit but we here on the lake probably on a rule get less breeze than the bay mostly between 10- 15 knots and as much as the Dog loves a breeze we really sail light air the majority of the time . Varan, won't be doing Whidbey (sad) but there's a good chance of doing the new race next year in Point Roberts

Hope to see y'all at Point Roberts. Cheers.

[Golfinaspen 3]

Surprisingly there are two sailing on Ruedi Reservoir in Basalt CO.  One of them is an inboard, owned by Tom Morrison. The Aspen Yacht Club actively races there.

[89Tiger 12]

On 4/10/2019 at 10:01 AM, Je Prefere said:

Try bellingham, wa craigslist

 

Well that one is apparently gone :-(

[stinky 105]

I'm hoping Jim, Jim or Buzz will post some build pics of the new one.

 

[#13 27]

4 hours ago, stinky said:

I'm hoping Jim, Jim or Buzz will post some build pics of the new one.

 

Not likely, though they might get posted on our FB page.  I'll check in with him.

[#13 27]

Check the Antrim 27 FB page for some pics of the new carbon 27 winning the 3 Bridge Fiasco.  First to finish!

[#13 27]

[Raz'r 3,264]

just another pedestrian ride for a couple 70 year olds to sail to Hawaii this summer (their description of themselves...)

[Irrational 14 166]

That thing is killer! Should be a weapon.

What's it blowing in that pic, like 5 knots? Looks really powered up with that Monster Main - go big or go home.

[#13 27]

37 minutes ago, Irrational 14 said:

That thing is killer! Should be a weapon.

What's it blowing in that pic, like 5 knots? Looks really powered up with that Monster Main - go big or go home.

Probably 10 knots.

 

[Steam Flyer 4,835]

On 4/10/2019 at 10:52 AM, Mike in CT said:

Ha! of course. Murphy's law is in full affect in my boat search. Any boat I'm even remotely interested in will inevitably be as far away as possible.  

Yep

The other working principle is that the best boats sell the quickest, so by the time you find the boat, and make the time to check it out, somebody closer will snap it up.

FB- Doug

[Aquila11 11]

3 hours ago, #13 said:

I didn't need a new main for mine till seeing this...

[JimBowie 332]

Are those solar cells in the windows...or optical illusion

[Aquila11 11]

I believe the solar panels replaced the windows entirely.

[SuddenlyBrown 23]

Looks like a hank-on jib and bob stay for a code zero. Very cool.

 

[SuddenlyBrown 23]

Looks like a hank-on jib and bob stay for a code zero. Very cool.

 

[#13 27]

4 hours ago, Aquila11 said:

I believe the solar panels replaced the windows entirely.

Correct, and where you sail, that main would be a giant killer.  And only a 3 second a mile rating hit...

 

[solosailor 354]

3 second hit for both the mainsail increase and carbon lightweight hull.

[nroose 155]

Where did they build that A27c?

[Irrational 14 166]

47 minutes ago, solosailor said:

3 second hit for both the mainsail increase and carbon lightweight hull.

Umm, what? 

[#13 27]

14 hours ago, Irrational 14 said:

Umm, what? 

Displacement didn't change.  Built in Moss Landing, near Watsonville.

 

[port tack 12]

More weight in the Keel?  there had to be some weight savings going to carbon in the hull?  Right?

[#13 27]

13 minutes ago, port tack said:

More weight in the Keel?  there had to be some weight savings going to carbon in the hull?  Right?

Yes to both, resulting in the displacement remained the same.  Performance will be improved with both and particularly the square head main.

 

[port tack 12]

Nice

[solosailor 354]

Quote

Displacement didn't change.

Well I've heard 300lbs lighter in the hull thrown around by a few that heard first hand.    So again, a much lighter hull.....   you are now saying more in the keel so the displacements the same (a major increase in righting moment then),   And an increase in sail area.   Someone should buy a lottery ticket if they only got a 3 sec. hit.

[#13 27]

8 hours ago, solosailor said:

Well I've heard 300lbs lighter in the hull thrown around by a few that heard first hand.    So again, a much lighter hull.....   you are now saying more in the keel so the displacements the same (a major increase in righting moment then),   And an increase in sail area.   Someone should buy a lottery ticket if they only got a 3 sec. hit.

That's in the ballpark, though Jim feels that's an optimistic total savings.  And yes, buy a lotto ticket.  Surprised it was only a 3 second hit.

[SuddenlyBrown 23]

More pictures of the new boat.

 

 

http://www.tom-burden.com/new-carbon-antrim-27.html

 

 

[JimB 23]

Any Sailing updates? 

[stinky 105]

21 minutes ago, JimB said:

Any Sailing updates? 

It goes faster than -3 sec/mile. Sweet boat, gift rating.

Hope they build many more.

Built by Donovan in Moss Landing, finished by Giles in Richmond. Both did a really nice job.

[solosailor 354]

Don't forget EC6 rigging.   200lbs added to the bulb from the reduced hull weight.   Larger main, carbon rigging, increased bulb weight, lighter stiffer hull = 3 sec/mile.    

[jetfuel 31]

On 4/9/2019 at 9:47 AM, Mike in CT said:

Wow, that will be cool but pricey. I guess it makes sense since there do not seem to be any used ones available. 

One for sale in the classifieds north of Toronto 

[jackolantern 449]

 

On 10/3/2020 at 12:12 PM, solosailor said:

Don't forget EC6 rigging.   200lbs added to the bulb from the reduced hull weight.   Larger main, carbon rigging, increased bulb weight, lighter stiffer hull = 3 sec/mile.    

It's shit like this that make people complain about PHRF as much as they do.

In my book thats a 12 second hit, full stop. And still it's generous!!

[Mike in CT 15]

1 hour ago, jackolantern said:

 

It's shit like this that make people complain about PHRF as much as they do.

In my book thats a 12 second hit, full stop. And still it's generous!!

exactly.

when I was looking for an Antrim to buy and couldn't find one I bought a Carrera 280.  Nothing to do with that boat specifically, but I got fed up with PHRF, bought a viper 640 and have been much happier so far. 

P.S. Anyone want to buy a Carrera 280?