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1 hour ago, BruceH-NZ said:

Wondering why there isn't a thread here for the Mini-Transat 2019, so I started one. :) 

Start is at La Boulangère on 22 September 2019

https://www.minitransat.fr/en/news

https://www.minitransat.fr/en/skippers

La Boulangère is the main sponsor of the event 

Start city is La Rochelle.

For the race itself it will be interesting if the foilers will be far enough along with their development to battle against the well proven scows like 865 and the lombard pseudo scows like 945 

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Isn't La Rochelle is being renamed for the day?  (Attempt at a comeback, an embarrassing cut and paste incident. :o  My bad.)  

2 minutes ago, ctutmark said:

For the race itself it will be interesting if the foilers will be far enough along with their development to battle against the well proven scows like 865 and the lombard pseudo scows like 945 

Agreed. Wondering how foiling works when napping.

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5 minutes ago, BruceH-NZ said:

Isn't La Rochelle is being renamed for the day?  (Attempt at a comeback, an embarrassing cut and paste incident. :o  My bad.)  

Agreed. Wondering how foiling works when napping.

I did read about the foiling scows having softer "landings' than the more standard boats. Sort of envision a stone skipping across the water. 

 

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2 minutes ago, ctutmark said:

I did read about the foiling scows having softer "landings' than the more standard boats. Sort of envision a stone skipping across the water. 

Agreed. You don't want to go down the mine at speed, ever, on Mini.

The designs have changed a lot in the last 15 years.

Image result for chris sayer mini transat navman

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Not sure how on the pace Seair is, but it's a good picture of 2019 thinking.

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Those publicity pictures were from 2 years ago. The boat has done nothing of significance since and is for sale. 

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10 hours ago, Miffy said:

Those publicity pictures were from 2 years ago. The boat has done nothing of significance since and is for sale. 

I'm playing catchup. Was involved managing the sponsorship back in 1999.

Am trying to get over these bows.

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1 hour ago, BruceH-NZ said:

I'm playing catchup. Was involved managing the sponsorship back in 1999.

Am trying to get over these bows.

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love that huge rig. one of the coolest classes ever.

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865 and 945 have been inseparable at the top of the fleet all season, with the exception of the Fastnet where Axel pulled out a bigger lead so the Transat could go either way, the foilers have yet to make much of an impact but the Pogo Foiler is very new, but will have to wait until 2021 for a shot at the transat

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Rubs salt into the wound of not having been able to qualify in time as I'd probably have been high up enough to have been one of the extra admitted :(

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1 hour ago, JonRowe said:

Rubs salt into the wound of not having been able to qualify in time as I'd probably have been high up enough to have been one of the extra admitted :(

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2 hours ago, JonRowe said:

Rubs salt into the wound of not having been able to qualify in time as I'd probably have been high up enough to have been one of the extra admitted :(

Bummer, hopefully you will be able to get the pieces in place for 2021. It is truly a very special event

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#967 Pogo foiler is qualified ..that was unexpected. I see this boat to win if all is going well.

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On 9/6/2019 at 8:44 PM, troll99 said:

#967 Pogo foiler is qualified ..that was unexpected. I see this boat to win if all is going well.

He asked for an received dispensation to sail an additional qualifying course, will be interesting to see versus the current top boats!

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18 minutes ago, JonRowe said:

He asked for an received dispensation to sail an additional qualifying course, will be interesting to see versus the current top boats!

Yes it was the last minute. It did well in Transcoigne, particularly in light winds. It was very close to #800. So drag is no problem.

In stable trade winds, it could extend the lead easily but reliability is not his strong card at the  moment. Top trio are 969, 865 and 945. 

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3 hours ago, troll99 said:

Yes it was the last minute. It did well in Transcoigne, particularly in light winds. It was very close to #800. So drag is no problem.

In stable trade winds, it could extend the lead easily but reliability is not his strong card at the  moment. Top trio are 969, 865 and 945. 

I'm crossing my fingers for Axel and 945!

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Hmm, interesting to calculate what happens if you split the bulb weight in 3 , and ad 1/3 to a foil :)
Damn stability with ballast in worst place rules though...

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4 hours ago, LeoV said:

Hmm, interesting to calculate what happens if you split the bulb weight in 3 , and ad 1/3 to a foil :)
Damn stability with ballast in worst place rules though...

Not much air time in the video and so new they probably have a lot to learn on settings.  Should be interesting to follow them.

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On 9/8/2019 at 6:56 PM, JonRowe said:

I'm crossing my fingers for Axel and 945!

He deserves it as he did build everything from the scratch which is impressive. 

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On 9/11/2019 at 1:53 PM, LeoV said:

Hmm, interesting to calculate what happens if you split the bulb weight in 3 , and ad 1/3 to a foil :)
Damn stability with ballast in worst place rules though...

Hm it's better avoid drag in foils than add weight in these. Why not generate lift with longer foils shafts which gives more stability. 3m beam rule makes it more complicated though.  I like the idea of C foils so you can put inside within the 3 meter rule. 

I believe more on longer shafts. For foil bulb style , you'd stuck with 1/3 weight on wrong side.

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Apologies if this has been posted before.  Mainsail luffs and they crash but still impressive.

 

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NO RACE START THIS WEEKEND
 
 
The 22nd edition of the Mini-Transat La Boulangère will not now be able to set sail this weekend. The narrow weather window has closed and the expected forecast in the Bay of Biscay over the coming days is such that the huge fleet of Mini 6.50s cannot be safely released.
 
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Denis Hugues, Race Director for the Mini-Transat La Boulangère explains the reasoning for this latest postponement: “We summoned the racers today because we really believed that there was an opportunity to set sail. If a weather window presented itself, it was important to snap it up. Unfortunately, conditions have deteriorated overnight and the front expected to roll through on Tuesday has become a lot more active. We’re expecting 30-knot winds, gusting to 40 knots, and waves of 3.5 to 4 metres.” Christian Dumard, the race’s meteorologist corroborates this viewpoint: “The front is sweeping across the whole of the Bay of Biscay and it’s not possible to dip to the South of it, even by putting in place waypoints.
 
“Very complicated to set off before Wednesday”
 
So when can we envisage a new weather window so the 22nd edition can kick off? “It would seem very complicated to release the boats before Wednesday”, points out Denis Hugues. “We’re also keeping a close eye on the trajectory of Hurricane Lorenzo, which remains unsettled. Some models suggest it will have an impact on the Bay of Biscay late next week, whipping up winds in excess of 50 knots.” We’ll just have to wait and see…
Whatever happens, the stopover in Las Palmas de Gran Canaria, together with the start date for the second leg (2 November), are not called into question.

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They are talking of a Saturday start :

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"Hurricane Lorenzo should pass by the Azores Wednesday morning before heading towards western Ireland, which it should reach by Thursday night. It doesn't intersect the Minis' trajectory and shouldn't send strong winds on the fleet. There are still some uncertainties regarding Lorenzo's final moments. The major issue for the fleet of the Mini-Transat regards the waves that are generated in its wake. These waves can travel hundreds of miles. On Wednesday, 14-meter waves are forecasted close to its eye, north of the Azores. By Friday 4th October, even though we are over 500 miles away from its eye, models are forecasting 3,5 to 4 meter waves in the Bay of Biscay. We are not excluding a start on Friday, but unless conditions don't improve favorably, a start on Saturday seems wiser. After Lorenzo, the sole uncertainty is the small front that could sweep over La Rochelle in the night of Saturday to Sunday. It is less active than in previous forecasts and as of today does not justify to postpone the start once more, but we are keeping an eye on it. "

https://www.minitransat.fr/en/news/weather-update-christian-dumard

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the fan switched off......and then Erwan to the east...can he make up the difference... too far behind or will there be enough breeze

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wow... Erwan has really missed out..... and the leading three continuing there battle .....but great to see Marie work her way back up ,from a hiccup back a bit 

It is great to see the series boats all close by as they have all caught up to the light stuff....

   cant wait for the day they have drone footage from the chase boats...or how ever the tech allows us to see a glimpse more than our minds eye

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Interesting results from 1st leg.

Protos: 1st is relatively conventional bow, then scow, then foiler.

Series: Pogo 3, Pogo 3, Pogo 3.

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