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On 8/1/2019 at 11:44 AM, smackdaddy said:

Have you ever seen a freakin' Spirit 17? It's the funkiest boat I've ever encountered. It's like some weird combo of Prindle and Hobie. This is how we found her:

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And this is her after we'd finished the restore - but with the original trashed sails that came with her (battens pulled - but Spirit logo visible):

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I'll yell at the boys about their lackluster rigging. Fools!

Yeah, that is some sort of bastard between the Hobie and Prindle, with maybe a stroke of Aqua-Cat thrown in the mix! Must have been a wild three way...

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Just now, Rasputin22 said:

Yeah, that is some sort of bastard between the Hobie and Prindle, with maybe a stroke of Aqua-Cat thrown in the mix! Must have been a wild three way...

I've done a lot of research and haven't been able to find any info about the company, etc. Even tried searching the hull number - nothing.

But she's fun to sail...even if she's a complete frankenboat.

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Lot of beach cat dna all mixed in there together, maybe it should have been named 'Alley Cat'. Glad you had fun with it! I started at the age of 8 on an Aqua-Cat 12 but I was the proudest kid on the bay!

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Ahead of the spectacular racing, an exciting pre-show will take place, when local sailors will have the chance to share the waters with the F50s and showcase their talents in front of the SailGP Grandstand. Working with the Royal Yachting Association and the UK Sailing Academy, the young sailors will go head to head as part of the SailGP Inspire programme - SailGP’s community outreach initiative that aims to use sailing as a force for good - which launches at the event.

I hope they make some of that footage available either via the app or through their other channels. Pretty cool.

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That photo of the foiling cat in front of the chalk cliffs is truly exceptional! Thanks for posting here.

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Just noticed this little tidbit in the article I posted above...

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For the first time in the UK, racing will be live on the SailGP APP. In addition to watching on BT Sport, fans can download the next generation mobile application, giving an unprecedented insight into the revolutionary new sailing league. Along with watching the live racing, the SailGP APP allows fans to view live data and video, track performance, compare athletes, change viewing angles, zoom in on the action and watch replays - bringing them closer to the sport than ever before.

Now we can watch this stuff live in the app? Hell yeah!

 

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Not sure this link will work - but here Slingers giving a good perspective on it all...

And sounds like he's officially retired from the Olypmics...first time he's mentioned it.

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Always cool to see how the local media covers stuff like this...

https://www.countypress.co.uk/sport/17813042.grand-prix-yacht-racing----sailgp----feature-cowes-week/

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“There’s no doubt many thousands of our competitors and spectators will want to experience these incredible flying boats up close and, with planned courses just off the Green in Cowes, the view from the shore will be absolutely stunning.”

 

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Practicing in Cowes - and I'd say that sums it up...(click image for vid)

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And another installment of the really good behind-the-scenes vids from the Aussies...

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GBR just posted ...

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Absolutely stoked to have hit 49.54 knots (boat speed) on the Solent today 

Fastest speed yet recorded on the Solent... the 50 is within touching distance. Let's do this! 

 

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WTH; one guy talking to himself??  Are they kicking the ACA loonies out and sending them to MA?  The new Doug Lord at least without the crazy colors and caps...  :blink:

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Heh. If I'm interested* - I post. You don't want to talk about it? Who cares?

As a wise person once said...

"Now shut-up and go play."

(*I'm not interested in the AC.)

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The Barrier Has Been Broken - By GBR

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Scott Babbage - SailGP Data Analyst - visited the Great Britain SailGP Team tech base during the team debrief post sailing today and had some pretty exciting news...

50dogballs knots (boat speed) confirmed! 

Congrats fellas.

Now - who was saying it would never happen? Hmm.

PS - SA's above autocorrect translation of "50 point 2 2" knots to "50dogballs" is about as good as it gets. Telling I must say. Heh.

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7 hours ago, Wess said:

WTH; one guy talking to himself??  Are they kicking the ACA loonies out and sending them to MA?  The new Doug Lord at least without the crazy colors and caps...  :blink:

I’ve got nothing. You’re right, this is like Doug 2.0. It’s just kind of creepy. 

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Again, Monkey - whether or not you or Wess or Thom or anyone else wants to join a discussion about foiling multis breaking the 50 knot barrier for the first time in history is completely your business. I don't really care one way or the other. And though I've heard the name Doug Lord a couple of times in my years here, I never really read any of his stuff. So that means nothing to me as well.

The bottom line is I think SailGP is pretty awesome, and I think it is truly (and obviously) taking the racing of multis (or any boat for that matter) to the next level. So, I'm following it and I'm posting what I find to be of interest - in the correct forum.

There are quite a few here reading along. So it's all good.

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Dan Morris of USA gives a great explanation of what happens when you go too fast and get too high...

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Heh, I figured the Aussies wouldn't let GBR stay up for long...

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First day on the water and smashed the 50 knot barrier! 51.24 knots

Might have pushed a bit too hard as we have damage to the wing...stay tuned.

51.24 knots!

Just incredible what these boats and sailors are capable of. And this is all just getting started!

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Well, I went back and looked up DL. Now I remember. "The foil guy". As I said, I'd not really followed any of his stuff and can't be bothered to read it now since it seems to be really in the weeds about design, etc.

But I do have an honest question - are people here in MA really so dead set against foiling that they can't appreciate what's going on in SailGP with these cats? If that's the case, that's worse than what's going on over in the "ACA Loony" farm. It's not going to stop me posting about SailGP in this SailGP thread, of course - but it is a little mystifying.

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Keep compiling the data here.  It makes it easy to find.  these boats are interesting.

I still dont know what those pictures of the weird prindle with the raised platform, and tequilla sunrise hobie sails have to do with these 50's though.

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Now this is gold...

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Rome gettin' seriously salty, Slingers whinging about not being able to be out there too...then he goes out and breaks both the short-lived record and his freakin' boat "going for 60 knots". Classic.

I love it.

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17 hours ago, Monkey said:

I’ve got nothing. You’re right, this is like Doug 2.0. It’s just kind of creepy. 

Well, that's the trouble with anarchy; no rules.  In a non anarchist environment the queen would put a stop to it.  Concur, it is creepy.  Always seeing the same no content thread with the last word always by the guy who started the thread.  

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20 minutes ago, MultiThom said:

Well, that's the trouble with anarchy; no rules.  In a non anarchist environment the queen would put a stop to it.  Concur, it is creepy.  Always seeing the same no content thread with the last word always by the guy who started the thread.  

Usually there is at least an effort to use sock puppets! :p                                                                                                                                                                                                     

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50 minutes ago, randii said:

Usually there is at least an effort to use sock puppets! :p                                                                                                                                                                                                     

Are you trying to imply I’m a sock puppet?  I’ve been here for 14-15 years. 

I was just agreeing with him on that particular topic. I completely disagree with his dislike of foils. 

I just thought he was correct regarding SD’s bizarre, manic, posting. There really hasn’t been anyone that off the rails since DouG. 

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I'm calling no one a sock. I was saying that with this much solo discussion, usually there ARE socks involved. 

I'm gonna go stand in the corner for a bit... :p

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3 hours ago, dg_sailingfan said:

We could be very lucky or very unlucky with the Weather/Wind on the Weekend.

Yeah - Saturday is looking a bit nuclear. Sunday is definitely better.

I'll be honest - I would love to see them run even if it's horrible conditions. Do I understand correctly that they have "heavy weather wings and foils"? I assume that doesn't mean 40+ knot gusts - but does anyone know those limits? Keep the foils tucked and just get around the course. That would be a fun watch!

PS - This is the window:

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During 2019, new wing sails will be constructed with a new geometry and control systems, improving performance at both ends of the wind spectrum. The aim is to be able to effectively conduct competitive racing in wind speeds from 4-30 knots.

 

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As for Monkey - don't sweat him randii. He doesn't seem to understand that I don't really care about "discussion" per se. There was plenty of "discussion" over in the circus thread and 99.9% of it was worthless. Monkey's (or Thom's) "rules of etiquette" are theirs - not mine.

I'm not trying to sway anyone or make any specific point. I'm simply going to post here what interests me about SailGP. Judging by the views and a few comments here and there - a few people seem to be enjoying that. If other people want to whinge and complain for pages and pages and pages and pages - there's another thread just for that. They'll have plenty of company.

That said, and to your point, I do at least respect the fact that neither of them hid behind a sock. That's about as lame as it gets.

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3 hours ago, Lost in Translation said:

A lot of us love foiling.  And SailGP is the best thing on the screen for boat racing these days. 

+1

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1 hour ago, randii said:

I'm calling no one a sock. I was saying that with this much solo discussion, usually there ARE socks involved. 

I'm gonna go stand in the corner for a bit... :p

My bad. I totally misunderstood!  

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2 hours ago, smackdaddy said:

 Monkey's (or Thom's) "rules of etiquette" are theirs - not mine.

 

Yah,  I understand being outlaw.  Especially in an anarchist desmesne.   But, I do hafta say that there are (or should) be some things that should not be tolerated.  For instance, child pornography; diddling in public (such as this thread); self aggrandizement (such as this thread); boring reposts of content we all could find if we wanted (like this thread)....lackwit content (like this thread).

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2 hours ago, MultiThom said:

anarchist desmesne

We may not agree on anything, Thom - but, seriously, that's pure poetry. Well done good sir!

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I'd say this is a well-earned statement:

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And to prove what super close means, check out the user video posted in the comments...

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Side-by-side shredding at 48 knots with USA and GBR. If you can't love this you're dead inside...

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And here is what it's like onboard at 50+

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Un-pucker is right.

 

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Though this is now the previous gen of the newer, faster boat, I always thought this was kind of cool...if not a bit mind-bending...

 

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In that video - Slingers is predicting more than 52 knots of speed if they get 25 knots. Doesn't think it will be a problem at all.

Holy crap.

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Slingers is a bit full of himself...sure...but check out the moment the wing folded on him after he 51.25 knots...

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You can certainly see why you don't want these boats out in 45.

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"Nathan on Speed"

I like Nathan, and his great explanation of what 50 knots feels like. But I really like his bold prediction for next season...

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Who knows - at this pace, they may see 53 knots THIS season!

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To me, one of the most interesting aspects of SailGP is this...

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So, these F50s are already the fastest racing cats on the planet - but they will continue to improve. That video of Nathan above where he is talking about the cavitation issue is very interesting to me. How do you solve that with these foils/rudders? What is the limit?

PS - You can see why the continual data pouring off all these boats is so important. I think there are some exciting times ahead.

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I love the looks on the faces during the vid. Great program...I may have to look at getting my boys involved next year!

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(Cheers for the heads-up Tornado-Cat)

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So, two things here:

1. If you're Slingsby and throwing shade at the other skippers/teams all the time - AND complaining about not getting time on the water - why the hell would you expect them to help you out when you stuff it up?

2. Besson is a very, very cool guy. I'd say his fan base is growing pretty quickly. Vive la France!

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Being a bit of a data nerd myself - I like this one. And I especially like the app up on her phone during the race. She's good!

Go the datachicks!

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And for those whinging about no racing today in high winds - it's clearly off the chain over there. It blew the paint right off this house!

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Seriously though Shirley does confirm something I was wondering about - they currently only have 1 wing option. There are 2 foil options for light and heavy winds, but the heavy air wings are slated for next season.

Very good vid.

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That above video toward the end also has a fascinating breakdown of the different styles and strategies between Outteridge and Slingsby. Great stuff.

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1 hour ago, smackdaddy said:

And for those whinging about no racing today in high winds - it's clearly off the chain over there. It blew the paint right off this house!

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Seriously though Shirley does confirm something I was wondering about - they currently only have 1 wing option. There are 2 foil options for light and heavy winds, but the heavy air wings are slated for next season.

Very good vid.

Yikes! It was blowing socks off today. You'll need to hold onto your hat here!

Unfortunately that means only 3 Races tomorrow and only 2 will be Fleet Racing if they don't modify the Schedule.

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Good on you Smack, keep it up and ignore the white noise.

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They are all now playing very conservatively.AUS/GBR/JPN at the top.

(I won't spoil.)

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Super choppy water. Now the boats are starting to ramp up. But that start was freakin' hectic.

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Something seems to be wrong with JPN. They are not at their usual pace.

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Woah, Tom Johnson on USA just about got flicked off USA when the bows stuffed.

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The winner came across the line right at 50 knots. Very cool.

This is FULL ON!

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3 minutes ago, smackdaddy said:

The winner came across the line right at 50 knots. Very cool.

This is FULL ON!

Did you see that Sommersault from Chris Draper:D Maybe he should go "Diving" and not "Sailing":D

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Good thing these guys are tethered! This speed is just insane. There's just never been anything like this in sailing. I love it!!

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There was LOTS of bow stuffing. 20 knots of wind and seriously sloppy water.

It's great to see these guys having to really fight.

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It's clear that the wing-trimmers are the most exposed. 2 flicks in 1 race.

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Chris Draper face-planted into Stu's helmet. Nasty. They went from 90K to 0 in a heartbeat.

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Okay, SailGP just announced the winner on FB so no spoiling here...

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AUS just freakin' sent it. BUT, they also played it very conservatively once in the lead. It's clear that they are seriously dominant here. 8 minutes to race 2.

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It's awesome to hear the crowds cheering as the finishers come across.

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