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That's a good list. Definitely don't put any more cities on that list.

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28 minutes ago, ProRailMeat said:

Combination of best sailing scene and great place to live in general.

Newport? San Diego? Boston? Charleston? Chicago?

Akron.

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Small waterfront town in eastern North Carolina. Ours is one of several. Sailing can be year-round.  Dockage is super low cost, and the livin' is easy.  We have running and cycling groups, a handful of good restaurants, coffee shops and lots of good people. 

Only two hours' drive to an international airport and all the big-metro benefits slings and arrows.  But far enough away to enjoy the big outdoors...

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This is like 'What's the best boat to buy?'  Retiring? Working from home? Cruising? Racing? Mix?  Can you do snow and ice? or must it be balmy and/or tropical?  Small boats?  Large boat?

Need.More.Input.

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My favorite place for beercans:

Huntington Bay, Long Island

There are also a bunch of nice weekend distance races on Long Island Sound. There's often a wind shortage, but you don't get waves, either.

I'd most like to cuise the San Juan Islands in Washington.

The real answer to "best place to sail?" Is definitely "Near to your house", though.

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Way too many variables without further input.

Is a great sailing town some place way out in BFE where a slip is $100/yr and a house is $50K but you have the only sailboat within 100 miles?

Is it Annapolis/Newport/San Francisco/San Diego where every kind of sailing goes on but everything is expensive because everyone wants to be there?

 

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Chicago? Not sure why. The weather is crappy much of the time and its expensive to keep a boat. Also there are few places to sail a dingy.

Newport and Annapolis come to mind. Charlestown is also nice. SF bay if you can afford it.

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Charleston is easily in my top two cities in America, but fuck sailing there.

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5 minutes ago, doghouse said:

Charleston is easily in my top two cities in America, but fuck sailing there.

The Virginia Beach area presents a some good sailing opportunities, but experience varies widely based on type of boat, where you live and where you sail from.  (Which is the issue with a lot of the cities.)

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Just now, Israel Hands said:

The Virginia Beach area presents a some good sailing opportunities, but experience varies widely based on type of boat, where you live and where you sail from.  (Which is the issue with a lot of the cities.)

I would not recommend VB if you are looking for sailing. Hampton maybe, but I would not personally want to live there.

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Vancouver, BC

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Look over there!  Look at that city!  Squirrel!

(Don't look over here.)

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Close to big water. Doesn't get on any lists but if you like consistently big wind it's Corpus Christi, blows in the high teens every afternoon.  (I don't live there). Galveston Bay is fine, waters is muddy, 8' of keel is pushing it but we get some nice races in Jan and Feb. Summer? I do evening races. Period.

And of course wondering why a poster who has been here a year starts this thread with his 3rd post. It's how I roll. 

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15 minutes ago, jerseyguy said:

Vancouver, BC

No - or Seattle.

No wind, rains all the time, water is freezing cold all year - generally a lousy place for a sailor to live.

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Of all the US locations, I'd say Port Townsend on the west and on the east, Gloucester, MA, Oriental, NC & Camden, Maine/Islesboro are all pretty special places IMO.

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25 minutes ago, d'ranger said:

Close to big water. Doesn't get on any lists but if you like consistently big wind it's Corpus Christi, blows in the high teens every afternoon.  (I don't live there). Galveston Bay is fine, waters is muddy, 8' of keel is pushing it but we get some nice races in Jan and Feb. Summer? I do evening races. Period.

And of course wondering why a poster who has been here a year starts this thread with his 3rd post. It's how I roll. 

He said ‘great place to live’ also 

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3 hours ago, shubrook said:

My favorite place for beercans:

Huntington Bay, Long Island

There are also a bunch of nice weekend distance races on Long Island Sound. There's often a wind shortage, but you don't get waves, either.

Surely you jest Mr. Vanderbilt. Trying to sell your home again? 

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18 minutes ago, SloopJonB said:

No - or Seattle.

No wind, rains all the time, water is freezing cold all year - generally a lousy place for a sailor to live.

IT RAINS ALL THE TIME!!!!

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12 minutes ago, Miffy said:

Of all the US locations, I'd say Port Townsend on the west and on the east, Gloucester, MA, Oriental, NC & Camden, Maine/Islesboro are all pretty special places IMO.

Fixed that.  

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6 minutes ago, MakePHRFGreatAgain said:

Surely you jest Mr. Vanderbilt. Trying to sell your home again? 

Trying to maintain your record of never being right about anything? 

The Vanderbilts never lived on Long Island and probably hoped never to visit there.  It was (and is) too full of social climbers like Jay Gatsby.  

And way too close to Queens for anyone's comfort.

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36 minutes ago, SloopJonB said:

No - or Seattle.

No wind, rains all the time, water is freezing cold all year - generally a lousy place for a sailor to live.

So all those boats in Coal Harbour and False Creek are just there to impress the tourists?  Who knew!

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Check my "location" in my avitar. I think this is the best combo. 2.5 hour non stop, 3 times a day. Sailboat racing, check. Amazing cruising, check. Great places to live, check.

 

 

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The ideal setup would be Miami (Oct. through May), Harbor Springs, Michigan (June through Sept.)

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1 hour ago, jerseyguy said:

So all those boats in Coal Harbour and False Creek are just there to impress the tourists?  Who knew!

A veritable Potemkin village of yachts.  They are all made of cardboard or cardboard derivatives.   The mountains are just green screen projections.  Do NOT be fooled.

Plus they talk funny.  

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Just now, Left Shift said:

A veritable Potemkin village of yachts.  They are all made of cardboard or cardboard derivatives.   The mountains are just green screen projections.  Do NOT be fooled.

Plus they talk funny.  

And their money is funny looking and sounding.  Loonies and toonies?

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53 minutes ago, Ross said:

Newport. Either one will do really.

Which one?

1) Newport, AR (Jackson County) 
2) Newport, KY (Campbell County) 
3) Newport, OR (Lincoln County) 
4) Newport, RI (Newport County) 
5) Newport, TN (Cocke County) 
6) Newport, DE (Newcastle County) 
7) Newport, IN (Vermillion County) 
8) Newport, MD (Charles County) 
9) Newport, ME (Penobscot County) 
10)Newport, MN (Washington County) 
11) Newport, NH (Sullivan County) 
12) Newport, NY (Herkimer County) 
13) Newport, NC (Carteret County) 
14) Newport, PA (Perry County) 
15) Newport, SC (York County) 
16) Newport, VT (Orleans County) 
17) Newport, WA (Pend Oreille County) 
18) Newport, NJ (Hunterdon County) 
19) Newport, MI (Detroit) 
20) Newport News, VA (Warwick County?) 
21) Newport Beach, CA (Orange County) 
22) Newport, OH (Washington County) 
23) Newport, WV (Wood County) 
24) Newport, WA (King County) 
25) Newport, VA (Page County) 
26) Newport, VA (Augusta County) 
27) Newport, VA (Giles County) 
28) Newport, UT 
29) Newport, TX 
30) Newport, PA (Lawrence County) 
31) Newport, OK 
32) Newport, OH (Shelby County) 
33) Newport, OH (Tuscarawas County) 
34) Newport, OH (Madison County) 
35) Newport, NY (Onondaga County) 
36) Newport, NY (Monroe County) 
37) Newport, NY (Orange County) 
38) Newport, NE 
39) Newport, NJ (Cumberland County) 
40) Newport, MO 
41) Newport, MD (Worcester County) 
42) Newport, LA 
43) Newport, IL 
44) Newport, IA (Louisa County) 
45) Newport, IA (Jones County) 
46) Newport, IA (Johnson County) 
47) Newport, GA 
48) Newport, FL (Monroe County) 
49) Newport, FL (Wakulla County) 
50) Newport, AR (Calhoun County) 

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7 minutes ago, Left Shift said:

Which one?

1) Newport, AR (Jackson County) 
2) Newport, KY (Campbell County) 
3) Newport, OR (Lincoln County) 
4) Newport, RI (Newport County) 
5) Newport, TN (Cocke County) 
6) Newport, DE (Newcastle County) 
7) Newport, IN (Vermillion County) 
8) Newport, MD (Charles County) 
9) Newport, ME (Penobscot County) 
10)Newport, MN (Washington County) 
11) Newport, NH (Sullivan County) 
12) Newport, NY (Herkimer County) 
13) Newport, NC (Carteret County) 
14) Newport, PA (Perry County) 
15) Newport, SC (York County) 
16) Newport, VT (Orleans County) 
17) Newport, WA (Pend Oreille County) 
18) Newport, NJ (Hunterdon County) 
19) Newport, MI (Detroit) 
20) Newport News, VA (Warwick County?) 
21) Newport Beach, CA (Orange County) 
22) Newport, OH (Washington County) 
23) Newport, WV (Wood County) 
24) Newport, WA (King County) 
25) Newport, VA (Page County) 
26) Newport, VA (Augusta County) 
27) Newport, VA (Giles County) 
28) Newport, UT 
29) Newport, TX 
30) Newport, PA (Lawrence County) 
31) Newport, OK 
32) Newport, OH (Shelby County) 
33) Newport, OH (Tuscarawas County) 
34) Newport, OH (Madison County) 
35) Newport, NY (Onondaga County) 
36) Newport, NY (Monroe County) 
37) Newport, NY (Orange County) 
38) Newport, NE 
39) Newport, NJ (Cumberland County) 
40) Newport, MO 
41) Newport, MD (Worcester County) 
42) Newport, LA 
43) Newport, IL 
44) Newport, IA (Louisa County) 
45) Newport, IA (Jones County) 
46) Newport, IA (Johnson County) 
47) Newport, GA 
48) Newport, FL (Monroe County) 
49) Newport, FL (Wakulla County) 
50) Newport, AR (Calhoun County) 

California and RI lol.

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How much money do you have? How old are you? Do you need to work? If so, what kind of work do you do? What kind of sailing do you want to do? St. John in the USVI is a pretty tranquil place to live under the US flag, with easy, fun and beautiful sailing year round. Not the easiest place to make a living IMHO, expensive as hell, and you need to be able to get off the rock when you get "rock fever." Lotsa expats become pretty serious lushes in fairly short order. Keeping your boat up to snuff ain't easy or cheap either. And of course hurricanes suck.

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I've lived, sailed and cruised in Maine, Hawaii, SoCal, PNW.  Spent considerable 'water' time in FL, and AK, done the ICW a few times..... still looking for that perfect combo...

Love the Salish Sea, but sailing?.....meh...

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3 hours ago, Left Shift said:

Trying to maintain your record of never being right about anything? 

The Vanderbilts never lived on Long Island and probably hoped never to visit there.  It was (and is) too full of social climbers like Jay Gatsby.  

And way too close to Queens for anyone's comfort.

Care to put your money where your mouth is?

Do you  have Venmo?

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Oh, Lordy.  We have a commenter without a sense of humor in our midst.  Well, probably it's my fault for not going for the purple font, because going back and reading that, that post does come off flat. 

There's a decent book called the Great Estates of Long Island on my bookshelf.  It details the Vanderbilt follies among many other "great families" of the robber baron era.  The Vanderbilts pretty much succeeded on Long Island only in burning down their first estate a couple of times, abandoning another and leave much of their holdings in a shambles, demolished  or donated to colleges and the to the state for parks.  Fortunately their architectural legacy in Newport and North Carolina lives on, unlike a whole pile of their money and most of their L.I. piles.  (And for the record, one of my family's addresses used to be The Point, King's Point, NY. so I've been around there a bit.   Just for a little street cred.)

Since this thread is about great places to live and sail, I will add that Long Island - north or south shore - is most certainly not one of them.  The thermal blockade of the island's roads and roofs pretty much turns the Sound into a becalmed pond. 

 

BTW, As soon as you succeed in making PHRF great again, let me know.  M'kay?  I might bet you that you have more success than tRumpy.

And thanks for the personal message.  I will treasure it forever.

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18 minutes ago, Left Shift said:

Oh, Lordy.  We have a commenter without a sense of humor in our midst.  Well, probably it's my fault for not going for the purple font, because going back and reading that, that post does come off flat. 

There's a decent book called the Great Estates of Long Island on my bookshelf.  It details the Vanderbilt follies among many other "great families" of the robber baron era.  The Vanderbilts pretty much succeeded on Long Island only in burning down their first estate a couple of times, abandoning another and leave much of their holdings in a shambles, demolished  or donated to colleges and the to the state for parks.  Fortunately their architectural legacy in Newport and North Carolina lives on, unlike a whole pile of their money and most of their L.I. piles.  (And for the record, one of my family's addresses used to be The Point, King's Point, NY. so I've been around there a bit.   Just for a little street cred.)

Since this thread is about great places to live and sail, I will add that Long Island - north or south shore - is most certainly not one of them.  The thermal blockade of the island's roads and roofs pretty much turns the Sound into a becalmed pond. 

 

BTW, As soon as you succeed in making PHRF great again, let me know.  M'kay?  I might bet you that you have more success than tRumpy.

And thanks for the personal message.  I will treasure it forever.

Wow. Lots of words! Still fake news.  But you had a 6 degrees of separation connection to Kings Point! How nice!  You Da Man! 

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42 minutes ago, MakePHRFGreatAgain said:

Wow. Lots of words! Still fake news.  But you had a 6 degrees of separation connection to Kings Point! How nice!  You Da Man! 

You know nothing.

And the “fake news” trope is so last year.  

 

 

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40 minutes ago, fastyacht said:

That was funny.

I have 2.7 degrees of separation from the whole world haha.

Whereas PHRF has a degree of separation from rationality.

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Marblehead, where I grew up.  Racing 4 times a week for one-designs (Townies for me), and winter Frostbiting in “wicked good” competition.

This was in range for the middle class back then.  And we were the boomers who filled up Race Week.  Great cruising around Cape, Buzzards Bay, the Islands, and down East.

It’s more chi- chi now, fewer races and more expensive boats—and houses.

A “best place”  if you can afford it.  Fond memories.

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6 hours ago, Left Shift said:

Which one?

1) Newport, AR (Jackson County) 
2) Newport, KY (Campbell County) 
3) Newport, OR (Lincoln County) 
4) Newport, RI (Newport County) 
5) Newport, TN (Cocke County) 
6) Newport, DE (Newcastle County) 
7) Newport, IN (Vermillion County) 
8) Newport, MD (Charles County) 
9) Newport, ME (Penobscot County) 
10)Newport, MN (Washington County) 
11) Newport, NH (Sullivan County) 
12) Newport, NY (Herkimer County) 
13) Newport, NC (Carteret County) 
14) Newport, PA (Perry County) 
15) Newport, SC (York County) 
16) Newport, VT (Orleans County) 
17) Newport, WA (Pend Oreille County) 
18) Newport, NJ (Hunterdon County) 
19) Newport, MI (Detroit) 
20) Newport News, VA (Warwick County?) 
21) Newport Beach, CA (Orange County) 
22) Newport, OH (Washington County) 
23) Newport, WV (Wood County) 
24) Newport, WA (King County) 
25) Newport, VA (Page County) 
26) Newport, VA (Augusta County) 
27) Newport, VA (Giles County) 
28) Newport, UT 
29) Newport, TX 
30) Newport, PA (Lawrence County) 
31) Newport, OK 
32) Newport, OH (Shelby County) 
33) Newport, OH (Tuscarawas County) 
34) Newport, OH (Madison County) 
35) Newport, NY (Onondaga County) 
36) Newport, NY (Monroe County) 
37) Newport, NY (Orange County) 
38) Newport, NE 
39) Newport, NJ (Cumberland County) 
40) Newport, MO 
41) Newport, MD (Worcester County) 
42) Newport, LA 
43) Newport, IL 
44) Newport, IA (Louisa County) 
45) Newport, IA (Jones County) 
46) Newport, IA (Johnson County) 
47) Newport, GA 
48) Newport, FL (Monroe County) 
49) Newport, FL (Wakulla County) 
50) Newport, AR (Calhoun County) 

Don't be fatuous.

 

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Just now, Somebody Else said:

Don't be fatuous.

 

Ok, I’ll try harder to be lithe and limber.

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6 hours ago, nolatom said:

Marblehead, where I grew up.  Racing 4 times a week for one-designs (Townies for me), and winter Frostbiting in “wicked good” competition.

This was in range for the middle class back then.  And we were the boomers who filled up Race Week.  Great cruising around Cape, Buzzards Bay, the Islands, and down East.

It’s more chi- chi now, fewer races and more expensive boats—and houses.

A “best place”  if you can afford it.  Fond memories.

Your forgot a key piece of information..........NO WIND. 

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9 hours ago, poopie pants said:

San Francisco

Live in Tiburon  and keep a boat at Richmond YC

Make sure the house is in the water so you can park the Protector out front.  Easier to get to Richmond, or the Frantic

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14 minutes ago, some dude said:

Make sure the house is in the water so you can park the Protector out front.  Easier to get to Richmond, or the Frantic

in that zip code you're also required the range rover and porsche in the garage w/the obligatory yoga pants with puffy vest and leather boots (han solo look) wife who cups her starbucks latte's with both hands

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Maybe but that’s not how I remember it. Winter had decent breeze for the Interclubs.  Yeah, summer mornings could be calm, but afternoon sea breeze made things all right,, and the “smoky Sou’westers” gave delightful racing.

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I love Newport RI. There are neighborhoods that aren't too expensive, and further away are Tiverton and Little Compton salt water farms. Great cruising in all directions. Martha's Vineyard, Nantucket, Block Island, Shelter Island, Cuttyhunk etc. etc. 

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Seems like a lot of people I know from Newport, RI think they're better than everyone else because they are from Newport.  Sailing doesn't Start getting warm there until May and it's generally cold in early October. 

Annapolis gets a longer season but it's all inshore sailing with it's challenges but usually breeze fills in and a decent day is had.  Also, Annapolis people are cliquey and it's a small town where everyone's in ya business.   

Hampton Roads has great sailing and you can be on the water every night of the week, There's usually good breeze, good racing and good programs.  Hampton is pretty much the base of operations and the area there is cool but as Doghouse said, isn't a great place to find a normal priced house in a good area.

Charleston.  Current, all day, all night.  Powerboat, restaurant and sandbar scene are pretty top notch.

West coast, Newport beach, San Diego, Long beach area has warm weather, high taxes, women and wind.  Tons of boats and great clubs.  Same cliquey stuff and not as much of a superiority complex.  high $$ though.  

For what it's worth, warmth is key, fuck cold weather sailing, I don't care how many people say its great, it friggen sucks..

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20 hours ago, jerseyguy said:

Vancouver, BC

Just another windless summer day here in Vancouver. :( At least it's not smoky like last summer. 

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Strangely, this is the second day in a row with windless conditions on Sandusky Bay.  

Oh, that NW wind, she is light, shifty and fickle. 

Not for nothing did the Greeks call her "Zephyrus". 

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So I'm a native, but Newport RI makes all the sense in the world if you like to sail, or live.  You don't necessarily have to live in town, it's a big enough island and the prices vary greatly.  If that's too much, there are very cheap places to live within 30 minutes of the center of town.  Weather is pretty consistent (or as consistent as you can get in New England), generally very good to great sea breeze from May thru September.  During that time, you don't have to go anywhere, all the major regattas come to you.  What other site in the US can claim the number of World, NA and National championships that have been run out of Newport the last two decades?  And there's plenty of big boat sailing, NYYC puts on their annual, their OD weekend which had big boats as well and the summer regatta, Sail Newport has OD events non-stop across the summer, Ida Lewis sponsors a very popular distance Race, and Newport YC is home of the Bermuda One-Two and Solo-Twin.  If it's a regular day, you go 35 minutes out of Newport proper and you're on the Ocean.  If it's blowing dogs off you go up the Bay.  Current makes everything tricky but doesn't dominate the course like many other areas. And screw getting cold.  Frostbiting starts all over the Bay by the end of October and is fantastic until the middle of January when the water starts getting really cold, then from mid-March on the cycle starts again.  And from Newport you're within 2 hours of spring and fall sailing on LIS (the only time to sail there, really), Buzzards Bay or up in Marblemouth.  There's very active evening racing all over the Bay, it would be easy to sail every night of the week except Friday.  So yeah,  California and Miami have  year round sailing but who goes out in Miami in the summer, and who can afford to live in California.  Look at the turnout for the regattas in Newport and you'll see why it's the place to sail.

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Miami

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4 hours ago, aA said:

in that zip code you're also required the range rover and porsche in the garage w/the obligatory yoga pants with puffy vest and leather boots (han solo look) wife who cups her starbucks latte's with both hands

We don't have Starbucks. Too plebeian. The au pair makes the coffee.

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7 minutes ago, SF Woody Sailor said:

We don't have Starbucks. Too plebeian. The au pair makes the coffee.

 

that's only the first cup of the morning. their mid-day break at strawberry point has the obligatory latte induced gab session

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3 minutes ago, aA said:

 their mid-day break at strawberry point has the obligatory latte induced gab session

I remember when that was rum.

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8 minutes ago, aA said:

 

 

that's only the first cup of the morning. their mid-day break at strawberry point has the obligatory latte induced gab session

Mid-morning break is more properly taken between sets at TPC, and by that point in the day it is warm enough that yoga pants and puffy vest have given way to tennis skirt and Lacoste. The au pair took the kids to the Olympic Club in the hand me down X5.

Are you new to this?

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2 minutes ago, SF Woody Sailor said:

Mid-morning break is more properly taken between sets at TPC, and by that point in the day it is warm enough that yoga pants and puffy vest have given way to tennis skirt and Lacoste. The au pair took the kids to the Olympic Club in the hand me down X5.

Are you new to this?

It is sad how this is not even funny! 

The SF Bay Area is one of the best places for sailing and many other outdoor activities, but the insane amount of money and the equally insane entitlement that comes with it brings this place down! 

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3 hours ago, SF Woody Sailor said:

Mid-morning break is more properly taken between sets at TPC, and by that point in the day it is warm enough that yoga pants and puffy vest have given way to tennis skirt and Lacoste. The au pair took the kids to the Olympic Club in the hand me down X5.

Are you new to this?

cut a guy some slack, it’s been a 15+ years since i regularly “ran the gauntlet” and rubbed elbows over that way. a once a year sam’s trip is about all i can stomach these days

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11 hours ago, Kack said:

For what it's worth, warmth is key, fuck cold weather sailing, I don't care how many people say its great, it friggen sucks..

I have to agree with this.

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On 7/25/2019 at 2:03 PM, Left Shift said:

Fixed that.  

Port Angeles, the PNW's hidden secret!!

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15 hours ago, aA said:

cut a guy some slack, it’s been a 15+ years since i regularly “ran the gauntlet” and rubbed elbows over that way. a once a year sam’s trip is about all i can stomach these days

Slack is hereby cut.

You can relax as the tennis pro is probably taking care of things for you.

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Let's put it this way: 

  • While in College/living with parents: Someplace you can learn to earn, which may or may not be prime sailing... 
    • Ivy League, Stanford, etc if you can do it
  • While generating an income: Maximizing your current and future sailing opportunities for 30-40 yrs
    • #1 SFBay Area (Alameda a good year round slip choice on wind/wave options)
      • Highest compensation (return on your time)
      • Unmatched real estate appreciation in a place you can live, sail and work within 60 minutes of each other
    • #2 Acela Corridor: Boston/NY/DC (Marblehead, Annapolis for slips and seasonal use) 
  • When you no longer need to work: With free time and some level of security and proximity to  family, transportation and health care if needed
    • New England: Newport RI through SouthWest Harbor Me for best cruising & racing  (Marblehead) for July-Sept
    • Chesapeake (Annapolis) Sept-November & May-June 
    • Someplace warmer (aka Hurricanes) December-April for winter sailing

At roughly 500 mile increments (a week's daylight cruise, 4 days non stop) that could be:

  • Narragansett Bay/Cape Cod/Islands
  • Annapolis
  • Wilmington/Myrtle Beach/Charleston
  • Florida 

We've already got Myrtle Beach & Annapolis places going; (with the appreciation from the Ca property on track to cash them out in < 5 years).

Looking at where on the Northern end it might make sense to setup a seasonal place:

  • sleep in a real bed
  • get mail 
  • stow gear/tools, and park a car. 

Perhaps Providence/Newport/New Bedford and rent to graduate students over the school year ? 

Disclosure: we have (g)kids in Maine and Northern VA. (g)

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5 hours ago, LionessRacing said:

#1 SFBay Area (Alameda a good year round slip choice on wind)

Hello Lioness,

You were doing fine up until this point. Alameda is fine for the occasional beer can or trip across the Estuary. However, if one wishes to actually sail or race then Belvedere is the answer. 

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21 hours ago, hobot said:

Port Angeles, the PNW's hidden secret!!

Forks is nice too.

 

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I'd rather have good water within a few yards of my slip, and the ability to chose what level of wind/wave I want to play in today. 

 

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Yeah but it's a looooong trip to the cityfront and pretty far even to the circle.  Nice pool at EYC though

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12 hours ago, Je Prefere said:

Forks is nice too.

Timothy Egan described the city thusly: ... Forks is to the Olympic Peninsula what a butt rash is to Venus.".

 

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7 hours ago, some dude said:

Nice pool at EYC though

Until you go skinny dipping with a bunch of girls Saturday night during the second season opener and some random guy steals your clothes.

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14 hours ago, Je Prefere said:

Forks is nice too.

For sailing?

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You were doing fine up until this point. Alameda is fine for the occasional beer can or trip across the Estuary. However, if one wishes to actually sail or race then Belvedere is the answer. 

It's only an hour plus to the GGYC or Circle from Alameda for an ocean or city front race start, not bad.  It's warmer and flat in the Estuary if you want that and again, the central bay and ocean are not far away.  Also, not everyone wants to live in the north bay nor is it a good place to commute from for many jobs.

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Newport, RI or San Diego, Ca.

Really depends on the boat you have or want, the kind of sailor you are and the kind of sailing you want to do.

Ask again when it is early February, there is a hurricane churning up the east coast or rioters are attacking whoever they want because they know they can get away with it.

No obvious answers

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On 7/25/2019 at 2:26 PM, jerseyguy said:

Vancouver, BC

Great if you can stand weeks of rain.

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1 hour ago, solosailor said:

It's only an hour plus to the GGYC or Circle from Alameda for an ocean or city front race start, not bad.  It's warmer and flat in the Estuary if you want that and again, the central bay and ocean are not far away.  Also, not everyone wants to live in the north bay nor is it a good place to commute from for many jobs.

You are correct Alameda is warm and flat. So there is that. Meanwhile, instead of an hour plus motor to civilization Belvedere is 5 minutes from everything from 2-3 knots of wafting breeze for the tykes to 18 at a reliable 225.

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Alameda is really the best for most of us. The slip fees are quite reasonable. Who is really going to whine about an hour to Belvedere and Sausalito when it is so beautiful and often means a nice spin run back to the dock. Take an overnight slip in Marin if you want to join a Marin weekend. If you belong to a Bay Area yacht club, the reciprocals are really nice. Treasure island for an overnight cruise out. Sail up to Napa or delta for a warm comfortable summer cruise. Sail to Drakes Bay, half moon bay or Santa Cruz/Monterey for sea adventures  Most places consistent wind, few bugs, comfortable cabins and year around sailing. Competition is there year around if you want that. This is the place to hone your skills to sail a transpac, round the world or even live on a boat cheap while making all the money you may need for your sailing dream to come.

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2 hours ago, Black Jack said:

Alameda is really the best for most of us. The slip fees are quite reasonable. Who is really going to whine about an hour to Belvedere and Sausalito when it is so beautiful and often means a nice spin run back to the dock. Take an overnight slip in Marin if you want to join a Marin weekend. If you belong to a Bay Area yacht club, the reciprocals are really nice. Treasure island for an overnight cruise out. Sail up to Napa or delta for a warm comfortable summer cruise. Sail to Drakes Bay, half moon bay or Santa Cruz/Monterey for sea adventures  Most places consistent wind, few bugs, comfortable cabins and year around sailing. Competition is there year around if you want that. This is the place to hone your skills to sail a transpac, round the world or even live on a boat cheap while making all the money you may need for your sailing dream to come.

Of course, they don’t call it Taxifornia for nuthin’...    Bring 50% extra to pay your Fair Share.

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Take it to Political Anarchy......   there is a reason so many want to live here and vote with their pocketbooks.

 

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Belvedere is 5 minutes from everything

I'm not trying to argue but you are beyond exaggerating.  Belvedere is 5 minutes from where, Tiburon?   You can't even get to Angel Island in that time.    It's 4nm to the City Front and 4nm+ to the Olympic Circle....  where 90% of the racing starts happen.

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Belvedere is about 5 minutes from San Quentin isn't it? :D

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12 hours ago, SF Woody Sailor said:

Until you go skinny dipping with a bunch of girls Saturday night during the second season opener and some random guy steals your clothes.

That could happen anywhere

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5 hours ago, Veeger said:

Of course, they don’t call it Taxifornia for nuthin’...    Bring 50% extra to pay your Fair Share.

Waaaaaaaaa

HTFU and get a job

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16 hours ago, solosailor said:

Take it to Political Anarchy......   there is a reason so many want to live here and vote with their pocketbooks.

 

 

11 hours ago, some dude said:

Waaaaaaaaa

HTFU and get a job

Wow, not one but Two over reactions.  Guess it touched a raw spot....

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On 7/25/2019 at 12:26 PM, hmsmweasel said:

https://www.sailingworld.com/racing/good-life-five-great-sailing-towns-you-may-not-know-about/

 

Wayzata, MN come for the sailing in the summer, stay in the winter because your car won't start!

 

Wayzata is great because the club and the people are great. The lake is a shallow weedy mess;  a series of bays overrun with 50 foot powerboats and wakesurfers.

 

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