Albaker

Potential issue with TrailerTri 720 build

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I'm about to purchase a TT720, but the current owner just said something to me that has me concerned. "Builder would have built it with more fiberglass but he is here on the sea and not on an inland lake." That's a direct quote from a text. I'm planning on having it inspected tomorrow, but I've never built a boat and I have no idea how much fiberglass is needed or should be used. I presume more fiberglass means more strength. I'm worried about structural integrity, and my intent is to sail this boat in R2AK next year. Will a good surveyor catch anything that might be problematic, or will gel coat hide something? Would you walk away from the deal? I'm 2,000 miles away from the boat, so I simply can't run back and forth to deal with issues unfortunately. Thanks

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And put a few pics here or on the TT yahoo forum. Someone will know history or will recognise an issue. There are a couple of boats here in OZ that are regularly advertised as Farrier 720's and they are definitely not, although from a distance they look like one. I always try to get the advertisers to retract false claims, and get a myriad of interesting answers.

Pm me directly if concerned.

Peter H

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Thanks guys. The current owner has owned the boat over 2 years but has never taken it out. He’s repeating what he was told by the builder. I submitted  an earlier question about the trimaran to this forum, and somebody did post to reply and stated that he thought it had been refurbished a couple years ago and saw it up for sale then. He thought it had been re-furbished at that time. He’s also from the right part of the country.

Here is the link: https://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/boa/d/trimaran-tt720/6972340624.html

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Reading the ad, I would not place much value on that seller's statements. Sounds like they know almost nothing about boats or what they have. 

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A home built boat in unknown condition and a buyer without boat building skills doesn't sound like a good combination, especially for the R2AK. If you're not prepared to do major work on the boat, you probably shouldn't buy it. It may be in decent condition, and still not ready for the R2AK. How will you know? How much do you plan to sail it before the race?

People have done crazier things for the R2AK. YMMV.

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4 hours ago, plywoodboy said:

And put a few pics here or on the TT yahoo forum. Someone will know history or will recognise an issue. There are a couple of boats here in OZ that are regularly advertised as Farrier 720's and they are definitely not, although from a distance they look like one. I always try to get the advertisers to retract false claims, and get a myriad of interesting answers.

Pm me directly if concerned.

Peter H

This boat could be a well built gem or a piece of junk. Pictures posted here would really help you make your decision. I almost looked at this boat a month or so ago, but needed to hit the road.

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Might be ok, but needs close look at ABOVE waterline recesses especially beam recesses where rot forms. Even an overtightened bolt will have rot near it. Survey with a little hammer or wrong end of screwdriver. Tap every recess, need to hear a high pitched noise. When you hear low pitch, turn the screwdriver around and start digging out the compost. Sorry, but unless boat was inside a shed there will be some rot and the gathered mulch is not a hopeful indicator. 

If you go ahead,  rip off the above back end church pew looking timber and replace with stainless or ally structure. 

Our club has original plans available on CD.

Good luck,  I have been there! 

Peter H

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The NW Multihull Association, of which I am a newish member, may have folks who know this boat if it was built in the Puget Sound area.  I'm traveling and have spotty internet but PM me if you want some help and I'll see what I can do.   The more info you give the better help you get.  Where built, who built it, when, color, previous boat names, other boat history, etc..

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I've asked the seller for the builder and previous owner information last night, but I've not heard back yet. I was trying to get a surveyor out today, but I told him last night I needed to put a hold on this until I can get additional info. He read the ad and responded back that the "thin plywood" combined with "only a thin layer of fg" concerned him. He stated to save my dollars and get a better boat.

I was expecting to do some work on it, but I don't have time for a major overhaul.

We have a great sailing lake 15 minutes from the house. I've been sailing smaller boats (Capri 22 and Hobie 18) a couple times a week and intend to do so over the winter with the one to be used next year. 

At this point, I'm not going to pursue this any further until I can contact the builder and get some of the boat history. There just aren't that many trimarans for sale in the $10-12K range with a cabin, and I literally just paid for a wedding. Otherwise, a Corsair would be what I'd be looking at. 

Thanks again for everything. I've been hitting this forum a LOT over the past couple months, and it's been a wealth of information. 

 

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48 minutes ago, Albaker said:

I've asked the seller for the builder and previous owner information last night, but I've not heard back yet. I was trying to get a surveyor out today, but I told him last night I needed to put a hold on this until I can get additional info. He read the ad and responded back that the "thin plywood" combined with "only a thin layer of fg" concerned him. He stated to save my dollars and get a better boat.

I was expecting to do some work on it, but I don't have time for a major overhaul.

We have a great sailing lake 15 minutes from the house. I've been sailing smaller boats (Capri 22 and Hobie 18) a couple times a week and intend to do so over the winter with the one to be used next year. 

At this point, I'm not going to pursue this any further until I can contact the builder and get some of the boat history. There just aren't that many trimarans for sale in the $10-12K range with a cabin, and I literally just paid for a wedding. Otherwise, a Corsair would be what I'd be looking at. 

Thanks again for everything. I've been hitting this forum a LOT over the past couple months, and it's been a wealth of information. 

 

Best decision you could make.  Farrier designed many great boats.  Find a factory built one like his recent F22s and you know you are good.  But with a home build of anything you are always taking a chance. I don't mean they are all bad - there are some great ones I can think of - but I would sure want to know the individual who did the home build really really really well and know that Ian's plans were followed exactly and the boat well tested in real life.  This for sure is not something to jump into and do an R2AK.

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1 hour ago, Albaker said:

 He read the ad and responded back that the "thin plywood" combined with "only a thin layer of fg" concerned him. He stated to save my dollars and get a better boat.

 

When that type of construction is done right, it makes a fine boat.

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what makes me think that the OP is pushing it trying to do R2AK when he is asking these questions to start with. I have like 20 years experience on Multis ( F28R and F33 ) and would not even dream to do that race. I admire all the folks who do, but would feel totally incompetent myself. Any budget like that will end up in disaster in my opinion.  

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Maybe crew on a R2AK team for this next year and save your duckies.  Or if you are bent on doing R2AK in your own boat look at some monos... 

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