Sydney to Hobart 2020

[Dark Cloud 303]

13 hours ago, Gweudo in oz said:

Dark Knight - "and your point of difference from normal being???"

SA-normal

[SCANAS 504]

Tasmania ain’t playing! 
10 walkers from SA on Tasmania’s Three Capes Track have been escorted from the track to begin their self-isolation. 6 walkers on the Overland Track will also be contacted 

[TUBBY 299]

Hmm, if you were a SA boat would you be reconsidering your delivery?

One hopes that the time on the delivery & in Sydney would be enough quarantine,  but if you are intending to fly in Christmas Day you might have problems.

Our (Sydney), boat was withdrawn a couple of weeks ago for any number of reasons,  so unless someone is desperate for some "grey hair" experience on board it looks like I get to watch it on TV,  assuming Channel 7 bothers with no Wild Oats!

[Fintho 12]

12 hours ago, TUBBY said:

Hmm, if you were a SA boat would you be reconsidering your delivery?

There was a chance I was doing the delivery home for an SA yacht, seeming more and more unlikely now unfortunately. Ah well, maybe someone needs help getting back to the east coast then

[SCANAS 504]

21 hours ago, SCANAS said:

Tasmania ain’t playing! 
10 walkers from SA on Tasmania’s Three Capes Track have been escorted from the track to begin their self-isolation. 6 walkers on the Overland Track will also be contacted 

Backflip coming soon - 

Mr Gutwein said 

"Subject to circumstances continuing favourably, we would hope that as of tomorrow those visitors [from South Australia] would be able to return to normal activities but we will provide an update tomorrow," he said.

[SPORTSCAR 690]

On 11/16/2020 at 10:13 PM, TUBBY said:

Hmm, if you were a SA boat would you be reconsidering your delivery?

One hopes that the time on the delivery & in Sydney would be enough quarantine,  but if you are intending to fly in Christmas Day you might have problems.

Our (Sydney), boat was withdrawn a couple of weeks ago for any number of reasons,  so unless someone is desperate for some "grey hair" experience on board it looks like I get to watch it on TV,  assuming Channel 7 bothers with no Wild Oats!

They will probably film their start coverage live from inside Oats storage shed to maintain the required content and effective social distancing.

 

[DickDastardly 227]

10 hours ago, SPORTSCAR said:

They will probably film their start coverage live from inside Oats storage shed to maintain the required content and effective social distancing.

 

Either that or chuck a logo on to Infotrack...

[Rawhide 84]

On 11/18/2020 at 9:40 AM, DickDastardly said:

Either that or chuck a logo on to Infotrack...

Nah just repeatedly cut to stock footage of Oats from past years, plus have MR commentating

[astro 730]

1 hour ago, Rawhide said:

Nah just repeatedly cut to stock footage of Oats from past years, plus have MR commentating

Did someone say MR?

STARBOARD!!!!!!!

[DickDastardly 227]

4 hours ago, Rawhide said:

Nah just repeatedly cut to stock footage of Oats from past years, plus have MR commentating

You’re a wise man sir. 

[Gweudo in oz 10]

speaking of Sydney / Hobart icons, "Willo" of Bacardi fame passed away during the week.

Condolences to the family.

 

[Dark Cloud 303]

56 minutes ago, Gweudo in oz said:

speaking of Sydney / Hobart icons, "Willo" of Bacardi fame passed away during the week.

Condolences to the family.

 

+1

[TUBBY 299]

Sad news,  even more so at this time of year.

I think most sailor who have found their way to Hobart have probably enjoyed a beer with him.

[PIL66 - XL2 884]

Big boat coming up but why bother with 5 or so boats....... maybe should have asked the TP's

[DtM 529]

The two handed exclusion from the Tattersalls Cup is going to a protest tomorrow.

I hope they win the protest.

[Trovão 442]

22 hours ago, DtM said:

The two handed exclusion from the Tattersalls Cup is going to a protest tomorrow.

I hope they win the protest.

me too. allow APs or ban the stored energy use for canting keels and power winches...

[speedless 0]

https://www.sail-world.com/news/233413/2020-RSHYR-offers-something-for-everyone

[Bill E Goat 268]

On 11/25/2020 at 8:56 AM, DtM said:

The two handed exclusion from the Tattersalls Cup is going to a protest tomorrow.

I hope they win the protest.

Looks like they were basing it on 

(d) RRS 52: RRS 52 does not apply to the adjustment and operation of sails or to the adjustment of movable appendages

in the NOR which has been changed in an amendment to a boats rudder may only be operated by power provided by the crew for the fully crewed boats

[Clipper 47]

Any outcomes to the protests yet?

[Livia 651]

Decisions are on the website.

Outcome as expected

AS protection racket continues.

Interesting make up of the Committee given the appearances for the parties.

[DtM 529]

Which website Livia?  Tried S2H and CYCA

[Livia 651]

Rolex Syd Hobart site

[trt131 168]

5 hours ago, Livia said:

Decisions are on the website.

Outcome as expected

AS protection racket continues.

Interesting make up of the Committee given the appearances for the parties.

It just shows your total ignorance of the rules and how they work.

[Couta 472]

The result was inevitable...and the real travesty was the about face so late in the game....the entry rules were clear right up until the Mafia started moaning....and suddenly the rules changed. So for those that bought boats, trained & prepped on the basis of being in the main event...only to have that taken away just weeks out?...well that's the standard of this race's management.

 

[LB 15 4,646]

14 hours ago, trt131 said:

It just shows your total ignorance of the rules and how they work.

[Livia 651]

14 hours ago, trt131 said:

It just shows your total ignorance of the rules and how they work.

The only ignorance here is yours

Get back to me when you do some research and see the problem.

Cheers

[bushsailor 67]

2 hours ago, Couta said:

The result was inevitable...and the real travesty was the about face so late in the game....the entry rules were clear right up until the Mafia started moaning....and suddenly the rules changed. So for those that bought boats, trained & prepped on the basis of being in the main event...only to have that taken away just weeks out?...well that's the standard of this race's management.

 

Yep,

And pretty much always has been the same. Quite strange that no other race has ever stepped up in Australia.

[Ncik 145]

On 11/26/2020 at 8:19 AM, Bill E Goat said:

a boats rudder may only be operated by power provided by the crew

store the power like an AC boat...problem solved...

[bushsailor 67]

19 minutes ago, Ncik said:

store the power like an AC boat...problem solved...

then we would have to ride a dam bike to hobart to generate enough power to run the autopilot

[SCANAS 504]

I think you’re all being a little harsh. It is the first year of DH. Can’t we cut them a little slack? 

[Couta 472]

4 hours ago, SCANAS said:

I think you’re all being a little harsh. It is the first year of DH. Can’t we cut them a little slack? 

It might be a "first " for the asshats at CYCA...but DH has been racing world wide with technological support for years.....that is the issue here...that they didn't do their research, didn't judge the pushback from the local mafia and didn't hesitate to buckle. The result is that punters spent big dollars and prepped in good faith, only to have the rug pulled just weeks out. Harsh? They couldn't give a shit! Business as usual...bank the bucks.

[SCANAS 504]

Allowing DH is a huge leap for the CYCA. I’m not at all surprised by their decisions. 

[LB 15 4,646]

On 11/30/2020 at 4:45 PM, SCANAS said:

I think you’re all being a little harsh. It is the first year of DH. Can’t we cut them a little slack? 

Is this the formal announcement of your run for Commodore or will there be a press conference at the club with cake, tea and coffee?

[LB 15 4,646]

On 11/30/2020 at 9:57 PM, SCANAS said:

Allowing DH is a huge leap for the CYCA. I’m not at all surprised by their decisions. 

I sold my hat after they punted me, otherwise I would have lent it to you. You should get one for election poster photograph.

[LB 15 4,646]

On 11/30/2020 at 9:35 PM, Couta said:

It might be a "first " for the asshats at CYCA...but DH has been racing world wide with technological support for years.....that is the issue here...that they didn't do their research, didn't judge the pushback from the local mafia and didn't hesitate to buckle. The result is that punters spent big dollars and prepped in good faith, only to have the rug pulled just weeks out. Harsh? They couldn't give a shit! Business as usual...bank the bucks.

I am with the Catholic Youth Club on this. The S2H is the countries premiere sporting event. It can't be won by some fringe dwellers on their crappy little freak show boat. Having two middle aged chaps on a 35 footer beating 16 gym toned professional athletes on the TP'S is not a good look.

These people will just be a menace on the start. They probably don't even know the Port/Starboard rule.

[SCANAS 504]

21 minutes ago, LB 15 said:

Is this the formal announcement of your run for Commodore or will there be a press conference at the club with cake, tea and coffee?

I’m not a partner, AM, Lawyer or Dr so I’m not qualified. 

[LB 15 4,646]

3 minutes ago, SCANAS said:

I’m not a partner, AM, Lawyer or Dr so I’m not qualified. 

I believe that the unemployed, ex-public service shitkickers and toy makers are now allowed. And lets not forget property developers!

[SCANAS 504]

I thought we were talking CYCA c’dore! 

[Fintho 12]

1 hour ago, LB 15 said:

These people will just be a menace on the start. They probably don't even know the Port/Starboard rule.

To be fair, even the fully crewed 100andsomething foot J-Class boats get it wrong, if anything it'd make the start interesting now that there's only two supermaxis. 

Also every time I see this a little bit of my soul dies inside of me

[pulpit 189]

1 hour ago, LB 15 said:

I am with the Catholic Youth Club on this. The S2H is the countries premiere sporting event. It can't be won by some fringe dwellers on their crappy little freak show boat. Having two middle aged chaps on a 35 footer beating 16 gym toned professional athletes on the TP'S is not a good look.

These people will just be a menace on the start. They probably don't even know the Port/Starboard rule.

So LB,

Are we talking about the south of the boarder or north of the boarder Port / Starboard rules here ? 

 

Afterall we may need to change the notice of race again to make shore they can keep the Riff Raff out of the race and only the Catholic Youth Club members and those in favour  can win the race. 

 

Pulpit

[PIL66 - XL2 884]

beau geste has arrived in Brisvegas..... now quarantining 

[Frogman56 88]

Al lright then, let's go forward...

Last Hobart qualifier under way right now, Halvorsen Brothers trophy, 180 nm to Cabbage Tree Island and back.

Should be fun night, start in light N, cold front with ~30 tws through around midnight. For a change,  small boat should win IRC.

And the race tracker is working just fine!

[mad 3,709]

On 12/2/2020 at 1:47 AM, PIL66 - XL2 said:

beau geste has arrived in Brisvegas..... now quarantining 

I thought that had been sold? is it still a Karl and Gavin programme?

[SCANAS 504]

1 hour ago, mad said:

I thought that had been sold? is it still a Karl and Gavin programme?

Sold to a yank. Sold again to Aussies. 

[The Dark Knight 681]

Just looking at the leader boards and comparing full v 2h 

On IRC, Burning Palms should be 5th overall in IRC, Local Hero 6th on ORCi and 2nd on PHS.

D'em autopiloty thingies are the devils work...

 

[Frogman56 88]

The midsize boats are near the Island glassed out now, the big boats steal the chocolates again...

Good battle in the 60s, Whisper in front justifying the most recent $0.5m expenditure. Gweilo leading the TPs.

The minimum rater could still win, with good nne all day and corrected time for the biggest boats (Black Jack and Infotrack) up near 30 hours.

[Frogman56 88]

Now = 0700 local, i.e. at 12 hours elapsed.

[The Dark Knight 681]

LH to Infotrack.

What were the conditions overnight?

[The Dark Knight 681]

The big money teams would not have to fear being beaten by the 2h brigade if the results weren't separated.

[Frogman56 88]

From the tracker and other sources, looks like wind down to around 8 overnight, but the ne flow today far less than forecast by any of the models, full overcast sky...

Very dusty around Cabbage Tree from first light on....

[The Dark Knight 681]

Info & BJ are siting on top of the IRC table with 3rd placed Quest looking to fall nearly 2 hours short with 20nm to go.

 

Info is looking good for the double.

[Frogman56 88]

Correct!

[Bill E Goat 268]

News Alert -  The race WASN'T won by a TP52.  Next the CYCA is looking into weather based handicaps so when the TP52's get becalmed off Norah Head they get dispensation.

Anyway what a fuckup forecast to what happened.  Feel sorry (not really as the crew have a cabin not a bunk) for Drumfire who ended up 2 miles north of Cabbage Tree thanks to the set, was a great finish surrounded by thunder and lightening was very very exciting, wanted to knock on wood not carbon fibre

[LB 15 4,646]

Once again the BJ boys get to catch the bouquet instead of getting to throw it. Well done to the Quest boys and it must be comforting to know there will be no boats ignoring the port/starboard rule on Boxing Day this year. 

[PIL66 - XL2 884]

BJ wins the start but Info chipped away at BJ all the way there so very close but on the way home i'm told the angle was perfect for info playing with weight in, weight out and 10 sail changes. The boys did a solid job and earned the win....The shut down sealed the results.
Congrats to Rupert on the DH win.... 
BTW solid crew on info with Nico and mutter who both know the boat well...

[terrafirma 977]

Great to see Infotrack take the triple. They obviously have the legs when the breeze is up and when they can use their beam. 

 

[terrafirma 977]

On 12/2/2020 at 12:47 PM, PIL66 - XL2 said:

beau geste has arrived in Brisvegas..... now quarantining 

Are you referring to Wharro's new boat the Botin 80 now called Thunderstruck?

[oneiron 12]

2 hours ago, terrafirma said:

Great to see Infotrack take the triple. They obviously have the legs when the breeze is up and when they can use their beam. 

 

Info must be a heap lighter  than previous years.. They  were smoking off the line. Also Gwelio and others have  caught up to Ichi  in the main race. (HCP) Going to be an interesting race to Hobart...at both ends. I hope the weather suits the little guy for a change. 

[terrafirma 977]

Only 4 boats I think?

 

[terrafirma 977]

Breeze was up and Infotrack smoked Black Jack and even gave BJ the start. Whisper got past Moneypenny after MP had a chute issue. Good to see Infotrack going well. 

[Jethrow 132]

Shit publicity, I only heard it was on after it happened!

[PIL66 - XL2 884]

3 hours ago, terrafirma said:

Breeze was up and Infotrack smoked Black Jack and even gave BJ the start. Whisper got past Moneypenny after MP had a chute issue. Good to see Infotrack going well. 

MP went for a deeper chute than necessary and got carted off to chowder bay.... poor Sean had a few fuckups like the pictures tell at the end.
Other than being 4-5 seconds early for the start, Info was brilliant and the footage of the first lap was great and really showed the difference. it was even good in the lighter puffs.
Shame that there was only 4 of them

[Barman 3]

Good to see the Aussie boat win. 

[terrafirma 977]

Infotrack was nearly dead and buried a few years ago. It wasn't being given the love the other boats had. The RP Twins have had more plastic surgery than a Hollywood MILF. But she seems to be almost relishing the change in Maxi Scene? Who knows? I for one would like to see her do well given where she has come from. I'm not sure what they have done to the boat if anything other than sails? 

[oneiron 12]

34 minutes ago, terrafirma said:

Infotrack was nearly dead and buried a few years ago. It wasn't being given the love the other boats had. The RP Twins have had more plastic surgery than a Hollywood MILF. But she seems to be almost relishing the change in Maxi Scene? Who knows? I for one would like to see her do well given where she has come from. I'm not sure what they have done to the boat if anything other than sails? 

Indeed, a good metaphor for old fat blokes around the world. A little bit of  love and we all come back to life at some point. A blue pill and off you go!!

[terrafirma 977]

14 minutes ago, oneiron said:

Indeed, a good metaphor for old fat blokes around the world. A little bit of  love and we all come back to life at some point. A blue pill and off you go!!

Maybe that's what it is? The Blue Pill..? I didn't even know they made Blue Pills for 100 Footers but you learn something new everyday.! 

[oneiron 12]

9 minutes ago, terrafirma said:

Maybe that's what it is? The Blue Pill..? I didn't even know they made Blue Pills for 100 Footers but you learn something new everyday.! 

It’s all about timing your run, just hope they haven’t ”peaked” too early.  

[terrafirma 977]

1 minute ago, oneiron said:

It’s all about timing your run, just hope they have”peaked” too early.  

Ha Ha for sure..! And it helps if the breeze is up too. I think we still know that Black Jack will be hard to beat if it's light. But nevertheless I'm sure Info-T will enjoy the new found confidence. Let's hope they have enough pills till a few days after Boxing Day.

[oneiron 12]

12 minutes ago, terrafirma said:

Ha Ha for sure..! And it helps if the breeze is up too. I think we still know that Black Jack will be hard to beat if it's light. But nevertheless I'm sure Info-T will enjoy the new found confidence. Let's hope they have enough pills till a few days after Boxing Day.

Indeed, especially around the lee of bum island...

[terrafirma 977]

24 minutes ago, oneiron said:

Indeed, especially around the lee of bum island...

And maybe 2 pills for the Derwent..?  

[oneiron 12]

9 minutes ago, terrafirma said:

And maybe 2 pills for the Derwent..?  

And some some penicillin for the house of pain..... (Covid safe of course)

[SCANAS 504]

2 hours ago, terrafirma said:

But she seems to be almost relishing the change in Maxi Scene? 

That’s one way to say the other three (four inc Leopard?) didn’t show up. But agree Beck has had the best bang for your buck in the 100’ scene. Seemed to do better when Larry Emder was replaced with Chris Nicholson IMO. He just needs to keep it one piece & he’s got two SH podiums in 3 starts for cents on the Aussie supermaxi dollar at current exchange rates. 

[terrafirma 977]

The new owner of Whisper has made a subtle change to the name of the boat.! Yes it was called "Chinese Whisper" . Perhaps a sign of the times.? Perhaps a co-incidence? Narr don't think so... I'm sticking with a sign of the times..... 

[JeronimoII 35]

Current weather situation as seen from Boris' co-skipper Will Harris

https://www.borisherrmannracing.com/vendee-globe-2020-blog/day-30-weather-and-strategy-update-8th-december/

[terrafirma 977]

5 minutes ago, JeronimoII said:

Current weather situation as seen from Boris' co-skipper Will Harris

https://www.borisherrmannracing.com/vendee-globe-2020-blog/day-30-weather-and-strategy-update-8th-december/

Wrong thread Jeronimoll.! LOL. I think you meant this for the Vendee Globe thread.? 

[JeronimoII 35]

27 minutes ago, terrafirma said:

Wrong thread Jeronimoll.! LOL. I think you meant this for the Vendee Globe thread.? 

ups,.. you are right... posting over there now

[PIL66 - XL2 884]

10 hours ago, terrafirma said:

The new owner of Whisper has made a subtle change to the name of the boat.! Yes it was called "Chinese Whisper" . Perhaps a sign of the times.? Perhaps a co-incidence? Narr don't think so... I'm sticking with a sign of the times..... 

He has spent a bomb with Cocko... (no one else was) and new keel so we will see how long he stays around after they all keep pinching his wallet...

12 hours ago, terrafirma said:

Infotrack was nearly dead and buried a few years ago. It wasn't being given the love the other boats had. The RP Twins have had more plastic surgery than a Hollywood MILF. But she seems to be almost relishing the change in Maxi Scene? Who knows? I for one would like to see her do well given where she has come from. I'm not sure what they have done to the boat if anything other than sails? 

i'm told (From on board) that Christian is so happy he will keep going and give the boat even more love next year. The crew also really like him.
The boat is only hurting in the under 6-8 knots like Comanche. Anything above and the boys seem to have the answers... I'd back them to win.

[Monkey 1,215]

1 hour ago, PIL66 - XL2 said:

He has spent a bomb with Cocko... (no one else was) and new keel so we will see how long he stays around after they all keep pinching his wallet...

i'm told (From on board) that Christian is so happy he will keep going and give the boat even more love next year. The crew also really like him.
The boat is only hurting in the under 6-8 knots like Comanche. Anything above and the boys seem to have the answers... I'd back them to win.

Oh dear god. Are people going to have to deal with another Juan K boat that isn’t hated by its owner?!?  I’m not sure they’ll be able to cope!

[Bill E Goat 268]

I wonder how they are going to manage the need to register their travel via the Tas e-Travel system.  You can only register 72 hours before your arrival.  OK for the big boats but not so good for the little ones

[SCANAS 504]

Surely they’ll have some liaison with CYCA & with Tasman Island or Iron pot ETA + Tracker they can meet boats. 

[mad 3,709]

16 hours ago, terrafirma said:

The RP Twins have had more plastic surgery than a Hollywood MILF.

[SCANAS 504]

Bunch of Pedo’s, they are only 15! 

[Dark Cloud 303]

1 minute ago, SCANAS said:

Bunch of Pedo’s, they are only 15! 

yeah, but in boat years they're 105

[SCANAS 504]

9 hours ago, SCANAS said:

Surely they’ll have some liaison with CYCA & with Tasman Island or Iron pot ETA + Tracker they can meet boats. 

Following the finish. each boat will be escorted to Murray Street Pier where they will be met by Biosecurity and TAS Health (or a TAS Health approved & trained representative) to complete health screening before proceeding to the dock for berthing

[terrafirma 977]

Anyone know who bought the PAC52 Rio ..?  It's coming to Australia according to the front page?  These things didn't ever get good press because of the politics but the concept of an ocean going Hobart style TP52 like Ichi ban makes sense. Off course the $$$ question is what does it rate compared to IB and how fast does it go.? 

[PIL66 - XL2 884]

4 minutes ago, terrafirma said:

Anyone know who bought the PAC52 Rio ..?  It's coming to Australia according to the front page?  These things didn't ever get good press because of the politics but the concept of an ocean going Hobart style TP52 like Ichi ban makes sense. Off course the $$$ question is what does it rate compared to IB and how fast does it go.? 

Yep that is the question...... Throw Gweilo in that rating .... they seem to have it sorted

[Next Level 15]

4 hours ago, terrafirma said:

Anyone know who bought the PAC52 Rio ..?  It's coming to Australia according to the front page?  These things didn't ever get good press because of the politics but the concept of an ocean going Hobart style TP52 like Ichi ban makes sense. Off course the $$$ question is what does it rate compared to IB and how fast does it go.? 

SMB

[terrafirma 977]

29 minutes ago, Next Level said:

SMB

?? Secret Mens Bizz...? 

[trt131 168]

Isn't great that the TPs cant ocean race.  The TP stands for Trans Pacific, I doubt any TPs in class configuration would actually race the TransPac race.

[Next Level 15]

39 minutes ago, terrafirma said:

?? Secret Mens Bizz...? 

Apparently..

[SCANAS 504]

1 hour ago, trt131 said:

Isn't great that the TPs cant ocean race.  The TP stands for Trans Pacific, I doubt any TPs in class configuration would actually race the TransPac race.

Not to 43d South they aren’t anyway.