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My wife's company is giving us an all expenses paid trip to Maui in January, which is great and we are happy for, but the Hawaiian Islands have never been on our radar.  What is there to do on Maui? Preferably along the lines of sailing, surfing, snorkeling, and drinking, in that order.

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January West Maui tends to have more surf north of Kaanapali. But surfing and snorkeling don't mix well due to fine sand bottom in bays so snorkeling may then be better South Maui or off a boat  Windsurfing too, along coast by Spreckelsville.

Bare boat sailboat charters few. Some snorkel sails. Drinking most anywhere but must be very discreet on beaches since it's not allowed.

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59 minutes ago, mookiesurfs said:

My wife's company is giving us an all expenses paid trip to Maui in January, which is great and we are happy for, but the Hawaiian Islands have never been on our radar.  What is there to do on Maui? Preferably along the lines of sailing, surfing, snorkeling, and drinking, in that order.

You gotta go eat at Mama's Fish house. Most Ono food on the island. There are snorkel trips to Molokini but January is high surf season and it is hard to say if you will be able to get a clear water window. Surfing is no joke in January. Ho'okipa State Park (Scroll out) is a great place to watch kite and windsurfers when it gets windy and the surf is big. Skip the drive to Hana. Boring and dangerous when it rains.  One MUST DO is the ride down Haleakala on bikes. You will swear you are on the surface of the moon based on the landscape views. Some companies are better than others so check out this link for which tour is best for you.

If you want to do a sunset cruise or daysail I can ask some friends that work charters there what is best. It is prime whale watching season so Pacific Whale Foundation might be there call there.

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try the musubi...   leave the locals alone,  they're a pissy bunch...     the flight from honolulu is interesting , you take off and 5 minutes later you start to land..

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I have been aboard Paragon out of Laihana and it was just a great day on the water at a reasonable price. The sea turtles did not show up for the snorkeling phase of the trip, but we did hit 25 knots. Yeah, it is a tourist day charter-but both the sailing and snorkeling are high quality. The state of Hawaii takes very good care of their beaches and ocean. This is what leads to the reputation of Hawaii as unfriendly to pleasure boating-no you cannot drag your anchor through their coral, nor shit in their sea, nor poach their fish. The locals can be aloof at best, but I don't think they are dangerous or anything like that. 

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Costco's right outside the airport.

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Plant your butts on bar stools at the Lahaina YC and enjoy some of the local color, may find s local going for a sail who would like to take some fellow anarchists out.

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There are surprisingly few boat harbors in all of Hawaii and even fewer bareboat charters. What few bareboat charters there are tend to be incredibly expensive.  Not really the best cruising grounds either unless you know the area well.  Unless it's your life dream to bareboat in Hawaii and don't mind spending some serious cash your time would be better spent going on one of the many snorkel or dinner cruises.  I know the dinner and snorkel charters sound touristy but they're actually really fun.  Maui is one of the best places anywhere for windsurfing or kite boarding and it's way cheaper and less hassle than a bareboat charter.  If you've never kite boarded or windsurfed there's tons of places that offer lessons and gear.

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+1 on the bike ride down from Haleakala.  If you only go to Maui once, do it where you're up there for sunrise.  It's an early morning but pretty cool.  And +1 on dinner at Mama's

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31 minutes ago, some dude said:

+1 on the bike ride down from Haleakala.  If you only go to Maui once, do it where you're up there for sunrise.  It's an early morning but pretty cool.  And +1 on dinner at Mama's

If you do the ride at dawn, dress ridiculously warm or you will freeze.  

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5 minutes ago, Cal20sailor said:

If you do the ride at dawn, dress ridiculously warm or you will freeze.  

We did it through https://www.bikemaui.com/.  We did the Self Tour, and later in the morning.  They take you up to the top for the Summit, then drive you outside the gate.  It's usually cold up there, at 10,023", but a light jacket will do as your only up there for a short bit.  Outside the park gate, they give you your bike.  It's a granny single gear bike with disc brakes, and its all you need.  If you pay attention on the way up, they tell you where the three places you may need to pedal are, Listen!  If you keep enough momentum, you can coast over them with little or no pedaling!  Stop along the way to do the zip line, or have lunch.  Enjoy the sights and have fun.  Don't ride like a dick!  

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Thanks a million; you guys are awesome.  Perfect.  So far, Mrs is totally psyched to mountain bike down Haleakala after watching the sunrise, do some whale watching, and eat at Mamas.  We weren't really looking to bare boat, someone had mentioned snorkel cruises were good so we were looking into that. That's a good point about underwater visibility and waves.  Assumed a rocky volcanic bottom and hadn't though about that.  Lahaina YC in on MY list, and we'll go.  She is very patient while I look at what she calls "boat porn".

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Besides Lanai, there are catamaran snorkel trips that leave off the beach at Kaanapali and go north. They get you to clearer water than shore entry would.  Molokini is better in theory than practice, pretty overcrowded and not prime anymore.

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16 hours ago, Cal20sailor said:

If you do the ride at dawn, dress ridiculously warm or you will freeze.  

True that.  Its the only time on the trip you'll need jeans and a fleece, and only for about 1/2 hour, but worth the space in the bag.  They'll offer you rain gear.  Put that on too.  Then you shed layers on the way down

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Some other ideas, depending on what you're interested in.

-- While at Lahaina YC, wandering the rest of Front St. is pretty fun.  touristy, but fun
-- sundowners in the beach bar at the Sheraton (black rock) is a little cliche, but a nice evening
-- the Maui Ocean Center (aquarium) was pretty cool
-- agree about the drive to Hana, but the drive around the other end is really pretty.  Stop for the banana bread if the shack at Honokohau is open
-- if you want a decent beach to chill without stepping over a ton of people, try Oneloa...

Oh, and if you want to go sailing there's a SC-50 (Scotch Mist) that sails out of Lahaina.  Yeah, it's a cattle-car ride, *you* won't actually get to do any of the sailing, but it can be fun, and they do snorkeling trips and sunset cruises.

Main thing, though.. it's Maui.  Don't pack it full of "things to do"... make time to chill.  wiggle your feet in the water.  Have a shave ice.  watch the sun set over Lanai.  breathe....

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Star Noodle, Aloha Mixed Plate, and Leoda’s pies are owned by the same group.  Nice grub in the Lahaina area!  Many of the Luau shows are good.  Breakfast at The Gazebo in Napili.  

A walk up the Iao Valley is a nice, cheap date!  Bring a light rain jacket!  Cool, easy walk.  An Octogenarian with a bum foot was able to do most of it with us!  

As sledracr said, the aquarium is great!

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January is peak whale season so there is plenty to watch no matter what boat you go out on.  At night you can hear them singing.

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Been a few years, but I found Maui to be a big playground.  You can do a very wide range of fun activities.  The shuttle buses line up at hotels early, and get back in time for dinner.  

As an alternative to the bike ride down Haleakala, we did the horse ride from the rim to the crater and back; an amazing trip, reserve in advance.

We found great snorkeling off beaches all over.  Get the kind of wetsuit booties with thick soles for the coral and volcanic rock. I was a bit disaponited in molokini, the whole center is dying.  

Have fun (it'll be difficult not to).

 

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All restaurants are overpriced on the islands but I found Mama's to be egregiously expensive...

I prefer the Paia Fish Market

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I'm there now, aaaah.  We have a time share in Kihei and go every other year.  I usually sing the praises of the Paragon Lanai trip.  However they have bought a new larger cattlemaran for that trip and the company calls itself Sail Maui.  The smaller, sportier, Conser 47 catamarans do not go to Lanai now, they do the closer to shore trips up and down the coast.  The bigger boat Alihilani is a 65' Gold Coast build that I heard used to work in St Croix.  It is a very nice boat and over all is actually better suited for that trip (see below) but it is not the exhilarating experience of the smaller boats named Paragon and Paragon II.  So I was considerably disappointed about not getting my fast sailing fix when I took the Lanai picnic & snorkel trip this week,  (wife and I do it every visit for the usual speedy sailing).   The plus side is that it cruises 15 knots if there is no wind (often in the morning) so you get to Lanai faster quieter & smoother or if there is even a bit of wind they can stay out and sail longer knowing they can get back on time with the big diesels.  And if it really kicks up it is a very comfortable boat compared to the 47 footers, that is if you are not into the sporty speed sail thing.  They still try to sail the big boat as much as they can and do so before, and long after, any of the other big cattlemaran companies.  (In January you will likely have good strong trades so maybe this is moot).  When we came back it was very light so we motored leisurely looking for wind.  Found about 8 knots for a half hour or so and up went the sails and we were doing 5+ in the low swell on a reach.  It soon died and the twin ~300 hp yanmars (per Capt Patrick) got us back to Lahina on schedule.  Gawd that is a lot of HP for this small trimaran, 9.9 Honda, guy. 

IME the snorkel off the Manele harbor of Lanai is not that great.  Good if you've never seen coral before but not if you've seen healthy stuff from back in the day.  Plenty of colorful fish though.  The 10 minute walk to Hulopoe Bay for lunch is nice and you can swim or snorkel off the beautiful beach, or hike the point or walk around the huge fancy 4 Seasons Hotel on the other side.  I once was surrounded by 100's of spinner dolphins leaping or spinning in that bay.   That is rare but I always go back hoping it will happen again.  

So if you are looking for a sail with a snorkel on the side and a full day excursion on a more comfortable boat the Lanai trip is a good choice.  No other cattlemaran will sail more hours.

If you are looking for as sporty as possible sailing I think the Molokini morning trip is a better bet for wind and speed in the smaller Paragon catamarans.  Plus you do get to snorkel in the very interesting Molokini crater.  The West Maui trip might be better if the trades are predicted later, rather than earlier, in the day.  I am no Hawaii expert on this I just look at Windy for the highest (reasonable) winds of my week and go with that one.  Snorkeling will not be as good on or just after the windiest days due to the sand being kicked up by waves.  I think this is less a problem on Molokini.  

I also drive the Hana road, though it is a chore.  Then hike up the 7 pools and the cool bamboo forest beyond, then continue on around the island, despite what others say.  I'm used to driving gravel mountain roads and this is a piece of cake.  Its a long day though so start early.  Or you can do the van tours if your driving stamina is not  average or better.

Def drive the Haleakala.  I think go early (6am) as the cloud cap may not be as much as later in the day.  Getting up early is not that bad coming from the west coast.

Check out a tour book at the local library (or buy) and bring it along.  We have Maui Revealed.

Have fun.

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On 11/12/2019 at 7:27 AM, Grande Mastere Dreade said:

try the musubi...   leave the locals alone,  they're a pissy bunch...     the flight from honolulu is interesting , you take off and 5 minutes later you start to land..

Smoke some weed with the locals, they are great. You just have to loosen up and meet on similar terms.

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and if you DO want to get out sailing look up Keahi Ho on the Lidgard36 GungHo! - an IMS racer nicely converted for performance daysailing.  Whatever it his rate is will be worth it,  you'd have to try really hard and be lucky to find a nicer guy.

 

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57 minutes ago, eric1207 said:

. The smaller, sportier, Conser 47 catamarans do not go to Lanai now, they do the closer to shore trips up and down the coast.  The bigger boat Alihilani is a 65' Gold Coast build that I heard used to work in St Croix.  It is a very nice boat and over all is actually better suited for that trip (see below) but it is not the exhilarating experience of the smaller boats named Paragon and Paragon II.  So I was considerably disappointed about not getting my fast sailing fix when...

Yeah,  they manged to flip over the Conser a couple years back, so... (to be entirely fair, it DOES get windy as Hell central Maui sometimes)

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On 11/13/2019 at 10:00 AM, silent bob said:

Star Noodle, Aloha Mixed Plate, and Leoda’s pies are owned by the same group.  Nice grub in the Lahaina area!  Many of the Luau shows are good.  Breakfast at The Gazebo in Napili.  

A walk up the Iao Valley is a nice, cheap date!  Bring a light rain jacket!  Cool, easy walk.  An Octogenarian with a bum foot was able to do most of it with us!  

As sledracr said, the aquarium is great!

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+ 1 on Aloha Mix Plate. We usually eat there twice every time we go to Maui.

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Maui is one of the most beautiful places!

Don't think I could live there but there is so much to do for visitors.

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I wouldn't bother with a big catamaran trip full of fat people. Take a trip out of South Kehei boat ramp on one of the R.I.B.s  you'll get to see stuff that no one else gets to see.  

+1 on haleakala, I mtn biked down the shoulder 15 years ago. A solo poach. Unless you can take care of your self don't do that. But there are trips now.  

Whales watching. Just wow. Seeing them breach near by is awe inspiring.  

 

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Why hasn't anyone mentioned one of the best surfing waves in the world?  Is it taboo?  I got some of the best backside barrels of my life on Maui.

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Don't waste your time driving the road to Hana...can't see a damn thing !...once upon a time when it was new and not overgrown you could actually see some magnificent vista's ...no longer

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On 11/15/2019 at 9:37 AM, GTim said:

Maui is one of the most beautiful places!

Don't think I could live there but there is so much to do for visitors.

 

Living here is amazing.  Getting to windsurf/surf/scuba any day of the week depending on weather is great.  If you have a good job you can get away anytime you get bored and see all over Asia on vacations.  

 

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On 11/17/2019 at 12:15 PM, unShirley said:

Why hasn't anyone mentioned one of the best surfing waves in the world?  Is it taboo?  I got some of the best backside barrels of my life on Maui.

Honolua?

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Iao valley is beautiful.  .."eye o".  Windsurfing buddy got married there back in the day.

Go to the top of the mountain, Haleakala, for sunrise.  Awesome view of the island.  Gotta get up real early but it's worth it.

Best windsurfing in the world.  

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On 11/14/2019 at 7:45 PM, Varan said:

 

Smoke some weed with the locals, they are great. You just have to loosen up and meet on similar terms.

the original locals or the transplants?     

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5 hours ago, mookiesurfs said:

Honolua?

Thats the one.  You have to at least check it out if not surf it.  

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On 11/14/2019 at 10:42 AM, Liquid said:

All restaurants are overpriced on the islands but I found Mama's to be egregiously expensive...

I prefer the Paia Fish Market

I agree Mama's is "egregiously expensive" but it is so delicious!

Good recommendation on Paia Fish Market . . . the fish tacos are awesome.

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Doing the road to Hana was a hassle driving wise and did not find Hana all the great for the effort. The Pools at Ohe'o which are another 10 miles past Hana were are great experience.

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If you go to Honolua, if there aren't surfers ( because it is calming dur ro swell direction) there is snorkeling off to the right. Watch for slippery and urchin covered entry, though.

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Honolua?

Dang, I was thinking it was a reference to Peahi ("jaws").... probably the most famous break on Maui, but not one for the uninitiated...

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On 11/12/2019 at 3:25 PM, some dude said:

+1 on the bike ride down from Haleakala.  If you only go to Maui once, do it where you're up there for sunrise.  It's an early morning but pretty cool.  And +1 on dinner at Mama's

Book ahead for your first morning on the island you’re going to wake up at 0dark thirty anyway so you can at least do something productive. 

Do they still have the market in Kihei that sells the killer marinated ribs? 

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31 minutes ago, pbd said:

Book ahead for your first morning on the island you’re going to wake up at 0dark thirty anyway so you can at least do something productive. 

Do they still have the market in Kihei that sells the killer marinated ribs? 

Tamura's?

 

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1 hour ago, sledracr said:

Honolua?

Dang, I was thinking it was a reference to Peahi ("jaws").... probably the most famous break on Maui, but not one for the uninitiated...

Yeah, I spent all day today surfing, and have some time on the North Shore, but Peahi is out of my league. 

We'll drag one travel board with us. It's good up to maybe double overhead. After that, we'll probably be doing something else.

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Slaughterhouse not on anyone's radar?   Great reef, but probably odds against it in January.

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23 hours ago, MauiPunter said:

Tamura's?

 

Been a long time maybe something like Azekals?

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21 minutes ago, pbd said:

Been a long time maybe something like Azekals?

Oh, yea...  that place closed.  It was right at the ACE hardware at Azeka Makai.

 

https://www.facebook.com/maui247/posts/remember-the-famous-azeka-ribs-it-all-started-with-bill-azeka-who-was-the-origin/1066500423429964/

 

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Do the drive out to Hana but do it on the south side of Haleakala. Easy, fast driving with beautiful wide open vistas and a couple of nice stops along the way. Not sure its any faster but it certainly feels it. You start out by heading upcountry then not turning to go on up to the crater - instead you hook around the western then southern flank of the volcano then traverse down to the southern shoreline. Think it’s route 37.

That time of year also you can go bodysurfing at Baldwin Beach which is just west of Paia. Get a session in before cocktails at Mamas.

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3 hours ago, Chrisatlantic said:

Do the drive out to Hana but do it on the south side of Haleakala. Easy, fast driving with beautiful wide open vistas and a couple of nice stops along the way. Not sure its any faster but it certainly feels it. You start out by heading upcountry then not turning to go on up to the crater - instead you hook around the western then southern flank of the volcano then traverse down to the southern shoreline. Think it’s route 37.

That time of year also you can go bodysurfing at Baldwin Beach which is just west of Paia. Get a session in before cocktails at Mamas.

Its twice as fast.  That's the way us locals go.  Especially if we just wanna get to Hana.

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7 hours ago, Chrisatlantic said:

Do the drive out to Hana but do it on the south side of Haleakala. Easy, fast driving with beautiful wide open vistas

It is a much nicer drive, with great scenery and fewer idiots in the way.  Plus, if you want to, you can continue on around thru Hana and up to Paia, with (probably) less traffic going that way.

Just know that most of the island rental-car companies "prohibit" that route, because they consider parts of it to be "off road".  Don't ask, don't tell (and don't break down out there)

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4 hours ago, sledracr said:

It is a much nicer drive, with great scenery and fewer idiots in the way.  Plus, if you want to, you can continue on around thru Hana and up to Paia, with (probably) less traffic going that way.

Just know that most of the island rental-car companies "prohibit" that route, because they consider parts of it to be "off road".  Don't ask, don't tell (and don't break down out there)

There is only like a 2mi section not paved now, but its still gravel.  Definitely do able in any kind of car.  

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Is it okay to hijack this thread and ask about Kauai? Never been there, but going there for a wedding next October and considering staying longer to check it out. BTW, who plans a wedding over a year in advance? Thought it was more instantaneous, Vegas style.

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Yes, Kauai is awesome, very laid back, quiet, and my favorite of the islands.... :wub:

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On Kauai check out the old Russian Fort/Compound.  It's a bit of a history from when the Russians occupied Hawaii.  Previously I had never known that the Russians came to Hawaii.

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One of the most amazing hikes we ever took was on Kauai on the Kalalau Trail from Wainiha along the Na Pali coast. Tough hike to do the whole thing, but gorgeous!

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Lumahai beach (don't swim out too far)...

Ke'e beach (DEFINITELY don't swim out too far)

Sunday brunch on the lanai overlooking Hanalei Bay at the St. Regis....

Sundowners on the patio at "the Beach House" down near Poipu...

Plate lunch and poke at the Koloa Fish Company

Shave ice in Waimea on the way up to the Canyon, or around the corner to Barking Sands...

 

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5 hours ago, Son of a Sailor said:

One of the most amazing hikes we ever took was on Kauai on the Kalalau Trail from Wainiha along the Na Pali coast. Tough hike to do the whole thing, but gorgeous!

I'm big into hiking, so will definitely give it a go. Thank you.

MauiPunter, I am not much of a history buff, but Russians? And before Trump too!  Interesting. Thank you too.

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You can hike to the base of Wailua Falls if you ignore all the signs telling you not to and you don’t mind real steep terrain.  There are ropes set up and you’ll need them. Pretty cool to get to the lagoon at the bottom.  

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