smackdaddy 295 #4901 Posted July 13, 2020 16 minutes ago, Sailbydate said: ^^But history will show we're never there long, Smack. It's what makes us so strong. ;-) I always hold out hope that New Zealand is just being shat and spewed upon by the KiWhingersTM here who assure us that the entire country believes what they believe - and that it isn't true. Judging by your own much more reasonable discourse herein, SBD, perhaps theirs is a somewhat smaller pool of sewage and bile than they would have us all believe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barfy 1,053 #4902 Posted July 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Forourselves said: . He was offered a position Identified as being crucial and turned it down, which is absolutely fine, but don’t act like a brat and bag the CEO or the team because you didn’t get your way. This 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stingray~ 1,223 #4903 Posted July 13, 2020 We could start a throw-uppage hatred list thread for NZ extremists, just 4ourselves fun. The most recent additions might include the M&C spies, MBIE’s Twyford, Mayor Goff, and that f’ing traitor DB who just invaded. How soon will IM be on the hit-list? I heard he is an Ozzie? And what about that Nanny, does she speak Hungarian? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barfy 1,053 #4904 Posted July 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Stingray~ said: We could start a throw-uppage hatred list thread for NZ extremists, just 4ourselves fun. The most recent additions might include the M&C spies, MBIE’s Twyford, Mayor Goff, and that f’ing traitor who just invaded DB of course. How soon will IM be on the hit-list? I heard he is an Ozzie? YOU Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stingray~ 1,223 #4905 Posted July 13, 2020 1 minute ago, barfy said: YOU Okay Barf fly! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smackdaddy 295 #4906 Posted July 13, 2020 Actually, I think Barfy's avatar would make a fitting icon for New Zealand's next tourism campaign... Come to Auckland and soak up our bile! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stingray~ 1,223 #4907 Posted July 13, 2020 Very strange avatar, I agree! Lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stingray~ 1,223 #4908 Posted July 13, 2020 Something fresh and fun America's Cup: Team New Zealand proving Te Aihe's reliability in Auckland's winter https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/americas-cup/122113672/americas-cup-team-new-zealand-proving-te-aihes-reliability-in-aucklands-winter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikenz2 1,536 #4909 Posted July 13, 2020 Just 15mins of the team out sailing 12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uflux 571 #4910 Posted July 13, 2020 ^^ “It’s amazing, it’s a great place to sail. It’s tricky and you need a boat that is very manoeuvrable and able to be controlled.” GD 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smackdaddy 295 #4911 Posted July 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, Forourselves said: Without Dalton, there would be no ETNZ. Well, hopefully the High Court will send down a righteous verdict and we'll be done with it all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uflux 571 #4912 Posted July 13, 2020 9 minutes ago, smackdaddy said: Well, hopefully the High Court will send down a righteous verdict and we'll be done with it all. I doubt any sleep is being lost... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weta27 3,955 #4913 Posted July 13, 2020 1 hour ago, mikenz2 said: Just 15mins of the team out sailing Thanks mikenz2, she looks good 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tornado-Cat 810 #4914 Posted July 13, 2020 1 hour ago, smackdaddy said: Well, hopefully the High Court will send down a righteous verdict and we'll be done with it all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apterix 85 #4915 Posted July 13, 2020 3 hours ago, mikenz2 said: Just 15mins of the team out sailing Thanks for the update - they're looking pretty comfortable and remain airborne through most manoeuvres. It'll be interesting to see AM and TNZ sailing in the same water - the first chance to see how they stack up speed and VMGwise across a range of windspeeds sea states. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ex-yachtie 1,462 #4916 Posted July 13, 2020 4 hours ago, barfy said: This Mayo and Calder should have taken note. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ex-yachtie 1,462 #4917 Posted July 13, 2020 Just to drag this shit out... Its worth noting that under the leadership of Coutts and Co, Team NZ had a culture of loyalty and mateship. It was very much boys looking after their boys. Rumour had it that when OK sailor (ie non-Olympic) and Dixon tactician was appointed as High Performance director at Yachting NZ, Coutts and his tight five held a minutes silence at a team briefing. They actively maintained a black list and demanded loyalty from their team. Coutts and Barker directly benefited from a culture of bullying and non questioning loyalty. The irony of course is that when they left the team (in both cases of their own accord), they betrayed the very values they had held up for so long. The Loyal campaign was aimed to cut much deeper than having a go at a few sailors who sold out. I don’t see any of the same culture in the current team, led by others. Team NZ had a sticker on their AC50 saying “No Wankers”. I don’t think that Dean, Russell and their mates would qualify. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ex-yachtie 1,462 #4918 Posted July 13, 2020 35 minutes ago, Ex-yachtie said: OK sailor (ie non-Olympic) and Dixon tactician. ^Pete Lester Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Forourselves 996 #4919 Posted July 13, 2020 The General consensus in regards to Coutts and co is that they betrayed their team and their country. The country opened their hearts to that team. We watched them race the Americans. There was champagne breakfasts around the country on the final day. When they won, we welcomed them home as heroes, and celebrated them again as heroes when they defended. Then they left. Now, leaving on it’s own would not have been a problem. But the fact that they came back as largely the same team that won the cup, left Team NZ and were now competing against a severely depleted and still reeling young and inexperienced Team NZ was the kicker. No one saw it coming at the time. Yes Russell handed the helm over to Dean in the last race, but to think Russell and a large portion of critical team members would up and leave suddenly, only to return with a cashed up owner and compete was unthinkable. This is why they say 2003 was “the end of the innocence for Team NZ” 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ex-yachtie 1,462 #4920 Posted July 13, 2020 Looks slow here. 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teaky 140 #4921 Posted July 13, 2020 Love how busy it is. And that’s winter. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
44forty 162 #4922 Posted July 13, 2020 Shit that flyby will inspire many of those opti sailors ! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
44forty 162 #4923 Posted July 13, 2020 6 hours ago, smackdaddy said: I'm just looking forward to New Zealand's return to embittered obscurity. You all seem much healthier and happier stewing in your own existential bile. Looking forward to you giving Rome Kirby a “talking to “ I’m sure your time in Catalina 27s will have him shitting his pants 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NZL3481 370 #4924 Posted July 13, 2020 14 hours ago, Guvacine said: This is what I find the really saddest thing about the Kiwis - how they eat their own (should say incinerate their own). Dean Barker and Russell Coutts are two of the greatest sailors of the current generation and yet have been burned and disowned by this sad little country. It surprises me that Coutts and Barker have anything to do with NZ at all the way they have been treated. Coutts got addicted to money. Barker is a spoilt brat. Neither are something Kiwi's have a lot of time for. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boink 661 #4925 Posted July 13, 2020 49 minutes ago, Hawke said: That's how Peter Burling started out - in Opti's. He had the correct head gear even back then..... 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fish7yu 409 #4926 Posted July 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Ex-yachtie said: Looks slow here. Yep, what a dog! Looks like NZL-32 on foils? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crux 15 #4927 Posted July 13, 2020 Where is the dog - and a pity there is not a seagull in sight! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
astro 720 #4928 Posted July 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Ex-yachtie said: Looks slow here. Check out the action of the opti's video is slowed down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tropical Madness 71 #4929 Posted July 13, 2020 3 hours ago, Ex-yachtie said: Looks slow here. Look at the angle and speed of the RS and Laser.. so ETNZ is heading 150 down and 3-4 times windspeed? More? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barfy 1,053 #4930 Posted July 13, 2020 8 hours ago, mikenz2 said: Just 15mins of the team out sailing I think someone should call the seagull that flys by at 00:20 in for questioning. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Purple Headed Warrior 85 #4931 Posted July 13, 2020 That tacking is impressive! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smackdaddy 295 #4932 Posted July 13, 2020 7 hours ago, Forourselves said: This is why they say 2003 was “the end of the innocence for Team NZ” And 2020 will be sentencing phase. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RMac 294 #4933 Posted July 13, 2020 4 hours ago, Tropical Madness said: Look at the angle and speed of the RS and Laser.. so ETNZ is heading 150 down and 3-4 times windspeed? More? The RC flags, and the rig flip on the board make it look a little bit shallower than that, maybe 130deg, but there is not a lot of wind there... some of the boards are struggling to foil with what look like 8m sails... pretty powered up. How much are we actually going to see the zeroes out during racing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Forourselves 996 #4934 Posted July 13, 2020 3 hours ago, smackdaddy said: And 2020 will be sentencing phase. There’s only one sentence you’ll hear in March. “The America’s Cup is STILL New Zealand’s cup” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smackdaddy 295 #4935 Posted July 13, 2020 21 minutes ago, Forourselves said: There’s only one sentence you’ll hear in March. “The America’s Cup is STILL New Zealand’s cup” Heh. Like I said.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Forourselves 996 #4936 Posted July 13, 2020 42 minutes ago, smackdaddy said: Heh. Like I said.... I don’t always reply to your shit. Only when I feel like it. You see, my terms, not yours. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stingray~ 1,223 #4937 Posted July 13, 2020 Recent pics by RG https://www.sail-world.com/news/230115/Americas-Cup-Spectacular-Images-of-Te-Aihe 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smackdaddy 295 #4938 Posted July 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, Stingray~ said: Recent pics by RG https://www.sail-world.com/news/230115/Americas-Cup-Spectacular-Images-of-Te-Aihe Gladwell is a horrible "journalist" - but he can take some nice photos here and there. I'll give him that. He should quit writing and just stick with the camera. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stingray~ 1,223 #4939 Posted July 13, 2020 21 minutes ago, smackdaddy said: Gladwell is a horrible "journalist" - but he can take some nice photos here and there. I'll give him that. He should quit writing and just stick with the camera. RG’s grammar could use some help at times, lol, but there’s no journo in NZ who knows the Cup and ETNZ better, he deserves credit for that along with his (yes, very good) photography efforts. He may also be the best we have for a long while to come, we may as well take all we can get. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ex-yachtie 1,462 #4940 Posted July 13, 2020 Talking of journalism skills... Sailing Illustrated: First with the news! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smackdaddy 295 #4941 Posted July 13, 2020 43 minutes ago, Stingray~ said: RG’s grammar could use some help at times, lol, but there’s no journo in NZ who knows the Cup and ETNZ better, he deserves credit for that along with his (yes, very good) photography efforts. He may also be the best we have for a long while to come, we may as well take all we can get. The chick on that podcast (Dana?) - is WAY better in virtually every category. If Gladwell is the best NZ sailing journalism can offer - that's pretty sad. Honestly, I think his is a common problem with sailing journalism today. These guys become so obsessed with "the relationships" and the "insider info" that they become toothless PR shills. That's been my complaint with Ehman as well. It's all just way too incestuous to be believable or even interesting story-telling. "Being on the inside" is more important than being objective. I guess that's just the problem with the niche/elitist aspect of our sport...especially with the "frat-boy" heritage of the AC. But fewer and fewer people in the general public care about this kind of stuff...and the AC is dying on the vine in terms of public interest as even those journalists in NZ confirm. That's another reason I think SailGP is going in exactly the right direction...in virtually every way. It's great for the sport. AC (especially this iteration) is not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indio 777 #4942 Posted July 13, 2020 On 7/13/2020 at 6:03 AM, Guvacine said: This is what I find the really saddest thing about the Kiwis - how they eat their own (should say incinerate their own). Dean Barker and Russell Coutts are two of the greatest sailors of the current generation and yet have been burned and disowned by this sad little country. It surprises me that Coutts and Barker have anything to do with NZ at all the way they have been treated. Getting labeled a "sad little country" by someone from a big dysfunctional country with the most corrupt government in history, who can't even look after their vulnerable people in a pandemic is a compliment. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sailbydate 2,394 #4943 Posted July 13, 2020 39 minutes ago, smackdaddy said: The chick on that podcast (Dana?) - is WAY better in virtually every category. If Gladwell is the best NZ sailing journalism can offer - that's pretty sad. Honestly, I think his is a common problem with sailing journalism today. These guys become so obsessed with "the relationships" and the "insider info" that they become toothless PR shills. That's been my complaint with Ehman as well. It's all just way too incestuous to be believable or even interesting story-telling. "Being on the inside" is more important than being objective. I guess that's just the problem with the niche/elitist aspect of our sport...especially with the "frat-boy" heritage of the AC. But fewer and fewer people in the general public care about this kind of stuff...and the AC is dying on the vine in terms of public interest as even those journalists in NZ confirm. That's another reason I think SailGP is going in exactly the right direction...in virtually every way. It's great for the sport. AC (especially this iteration) is not. There's a hell of lot more to "our sport" than the AC, Smack. Just look around SA, for example - or even get out on the water. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smackdaddy 295 #4944 Posted July 13, 2020 11 minutes ago, Sailbydate said: There's a hell of lot more to "our sport" than the AC, Smack. Just look around SA, for example - or even get out on the water. I know that. You know that. I'm talking about the general public. They don't know that...at least when it comes to racing. They do know about it when it comes to cruising (explosion of YT sailing channels over the past few years). And that presents an opportunity that's being missed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indio 777 #4945 Posted July 13, 2020 I wonder if this dispute between ETNZ and CoR "regarding obligations to meet costs connected to media production and the provision of race management systems for regattas under the Protocol" under their joint contract with Circle-O is behind all the betrayal by Mayo&Calder... ACAP36 08 - CircleO Dispute Final Order.pdf 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uflux 571 #4946 Posted July 13, 2020 9 minutes ago, smackdaddy said: I know that. You know that. I'm talking about the general public. They don't know that...at least when it comes to racing. They do know about it when it comes to cruising (explosion of YT sailing channels over the past few years). And that presents an opportunity that's being missed. AC is the pinnacle of sailing in the same way that F1 is the pinnacle of motor racing. It's not always pretty but it is undisputable Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smackdaddy 295 #4947 Posted July 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, Indio said: I wonder if this dispute between ETNZ and CoR "regarding obligations to meet costs connected to media production and the provision of race management systems for regattas under the Protocol" under their joint contract with Circle-O is behind all the betrayal by Mayo&Calder... ACAP36 08 - CircleO Dispute Final Order.pdf Already linked and discussed. See "pound sand". Keep up Indio. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smackdaddy 295 #4948 Posted July 13, 2020 7 minutes ago, uflux said: AC is the pinnacle of sailing in the same way that F1 is the pinnacle of motor racing. It's not always pretty but it is undisputable When these AC75s officially break 50.22 knots while racing - come see me. Until then - no. Not even close. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uflux 571 #4949 Posted July 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, smackdaddy said: When these AC75 officially break 50.22 knots while racing - come see me. Until then - no. Not even close. So I guess that is why we are all on here talking about the America's cup...mean while on the sailing GP 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smackdaddy 295 #4950 Posted July 13, 2020 Yeah that's true. SGP isn't racing right now. It's bummer...for everyone. Meanwhile, according to your own press, GD seems to be running the America's Cup right down the ethical (perhaps even criminal?) toilet causing even the NZ public to turn against the whole debacle. The fact that you guys are unquestionably screwing this all up so royally on every level is what I'm here to talk about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stingray~ 1,223 #4951 Posted July 13, 2020 I expect that, especially if the AC75’s add even more RM power through negative attack on the rudder foils, they will be able to hit F50 cavitation speeds, they may also go faster than the F50’s upwind. But dang, those F50’s are on a great development path too, there’s for sure room for both events. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uflux 571 #4952 Posted July 13, 2020 1 minute ago, smackdaddy said: Yeah that's true. SGP isn't racing right now. It's bummer...for everyone. Meanwhile, according to your own press, GD seems to be running the America's Cup right down the ethical (perhaps even criminal?) toilet causing even the NZ public to turn against the whole debacle. The fact that you guys are unquestionably screwing this all up so royally on every level is what I'm here to talk about. When trolls lose the argument...they change the subject 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smackdaddy 295 #4953 Posted July 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Stingray~ said: But dang, those F50’s are on a great development path too, there’s for sure room for both events. Agreed. If the AC can get back on an ethical and exciting path - it has some promise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smackdaddy 295 #4954 Posted July 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, uflux said: When trolls lose the argument...they change the subject Really? I guess I missed where you were showing me how the AC75s were breaking 50.22 knots to be at the "pinnacle of sailing". Flux - like Four, you're just too dumb to argue with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uflux 571 #4955 Posted July 13, 2020 1 minute ago, smackdaddy said: Really? I guess I missed where you were showing me how the AC75s were breaking 50.22 knots to be at the "pinnacle of sailing". Flux - like Four, you're just too dumb to argue with. If speed was the deciding factor. This would be the pinnacle of motorsport...ROCKET CAR YEAH BABY!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stingray~ 1,223 #4956 Posted July 13, 2020 1 minute ago, uflux said: If speed was the deciding factor. This would be the pinnacle of motorsport...ROCKET CAR YEAH BABY!!! What the hell is that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uflux 571 #4957 Posted July 13, 2020 I think it is pretty safe to say that history is on my side... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smackdaddy 295 #4958 Posted July 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, Stingray~ said: What the hell is that? Kiwi ingenuity. You can see echoes of it in Te Ahmed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uflux 571 #4959 Posted July 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, smackdaddy said: Kiwi ingenuity. You can see echoes of it in Te Ahmed. Is that all you have Troll?? Lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Alchemist 1,087 #4960 Posted July 13, 2020 19 hours ago, mikenz2 said: Just 15mins of the team out sailing Told you, they have improved a great deal since the first couple of sails with the re-launch of B1. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Forourselves 996 #4961 Posted July 13, 2020 24 minutes ago, smackdaddy said: Kiwi ingenuity. You can see echoes of it in Te Ahmed. It’s a pity you can’t see anything but a doomed campaign in Airbus French Magic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tornado-Cat 810 #4962 Posted July 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, Forourselves said: It’s a pity you can’t see anything but a doomed campaign in Airbus French Magic. Ah ah, so the US boat is as french as the Emirates one ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Alchemist 1,087 #4963 Posted July 13, 2020 15 hours ago, Teaky said: Love how busy it is. And that’s winter. Winter...ha, ha. That ain’t winter, this is frickn winter: 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Alchemist 1,087 #4964 Posted July 13, 2020 15 minutes ago, Forourselves said: It’s a pity you can’t see anything but a doomed campaign in Airbus French Magic. Seriously, back off on the drugs.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Forourselves 996 #4965 Posted July 13, 2020 10 minutes ago, Tornado-Cat said: Ah ah, so the US boat is as french as the Emirates one ? Is it? I guess you’ll be calling it French Magic then huh? I mean if we’re being consistent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uflux 571 #4966 Posted July 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, The_Alchemist said: Winter...ha, ha. That ain’t winter, this is frickn winter: Maybe a hull able to break ice would need to be introduced to the rules. Might be hard to find a COR 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tornado-Cat 810 #4967 Posted July 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, Forourselves said: Is it? I guess you’ll be calling it French Magic then huh? I mean if we’re being consistent. Airbus did not design AM as Verdier did. So we call call yours the french boat with emiratis money and kiwi crew, I mean.... for those who are not aussies Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smackdaddy 295 #4968 Posted July 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Tornado-Cat said: Airbus did not design AM as Verdier did. So we call call yours the french boat with emiratis money and kiwi crew, I mean.... for those who are not aussies It's right there on the sail - NZ is an Emirates Team - not a New Zealand Team. Now if NZ could just "Fly Better". Heh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Forourselves 996 #4969 Posted July 13, 2020 7 minutes ago, Tornado-Cat said: Airbus did not design AM as Verdier did. So we call call yours the french boat with emiratis money and kiwi crew, I mean.... for those who are not aussies So Verdier did it all on his own? Just him in his little office all by himself? I guess the rest of the design team did nothing huh? I’d love to be on Bernasconis salary to just do nothing the whole campaign. Air bus had nothing to do with the design of AM? Lol okay then. that’s not what Terry Hutchinson said... but hey, what ever floats your boat lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uflux 571 #4970 Posted July 13, 2020 Just now, smackdaddy said: It's right there on the sail - NZ is an Emirates Team - not a New Zealand Team. Now if NZ could just "Fly Better". Heh. Hey you finally found a splashdown good for you! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Alchemist 1,087 #4971 Posted July 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, Forourselves said: So Verdier did it all on his own? Just him in his little office all by himself? I guess the rest of the design team did nothing huh? I’d love to be on Bernasconis salary to just do nothing the whole campaign. Why, you obviously get paid for doing nothing where you are at... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phill_nz 638 #4972 Posted July 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Sailbydate said: That's another reason I think SailGP is going in exactly the right direction...in virtually every way. sorry sail please attribute quote to the knuckle dragger it belongs to ... ie .. smalldiddy but in this case he is correct the direction is .... its shelved Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JJD 69 #4973 Posted July 13, 2020 On 7/13/2020 at 9:17 AM, smackdaddy said: Raise your glasses to "dry laps"!!! Pre-start manoeuvre training. Theyve been doing it alot. This is what I love about your posts Smack, you always add in the odd comment that shows you know very little about the sport of sailing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smackdaddy 295 #4974 Posted July 13, 2020 And your feeble attempt at spin is almost as bad as Four's. Keep trying jj. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgunt_sailingfanny 22 #4975 Posted July 13, 2020 On 7/13/2020 at 9:17 AM, smackdaddy said: Raise your glasses to "dry laps"!!! HAHAHA I Agrees Car Crashes jokes is so funny Smack!! LOL ROFL :-D Those prolly Clowns! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phill_nz 638 #4976 Posted July 13, 2020 31 minutes ago, JJD said: This is what I love about your posts Smack, you always add in the odd comment that shows you know very little about the sport of sailing. proof he works for LE everything is full of bugs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sea Breeze 74 504 #4977 Posted July 14, 2020 16 hours ago, Ex-yachtie said: Looks slow here. Awesome video of people out enjoying the middle of winter. Wind surfers, Optis, Open Skiff, RS Feva, Laser .... oh and I even spotted an AC75 in the background! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horn Rock 1,196 #4978 Posted July 14, 2020 1 hour ago, JJD said: you always add in the odd comment that shows you know very little about the sport of sailing. That's why he likes the GP. It's targeted at people who nothing about sailing, and its hit the bullseye with Smack - TC as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tornado-Cat 810 #4979 Posted July 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Forourselves said: So Verdier did it all on his own? Just him in his little office all by himself? I guess the rest of the design team did nothing huh? I’d love to be on Bernasconis salary to just do nothing the whole campaign. The french and the brit. See Four, there is no kiwi genious doing miracles with small money but foreign design and foreign money. And the AC is only about design and money, you should know that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gissie 814 #4980 Posted July 14, 2020 9 minutes ago, Tornado-Cat said: The french and the brit. See Four, there is no kiwi genious doing miracles with small money but foreign design and foreign money. And the AC is only about design and money, you should know that. Desig, money and lawyers, can't forget them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Forourselves 996 #4982 Posted July 14, 2020 59 minutes ago, Tornado-Cat said: The french and the brit. See Four, there is no kiwi genious doing miracles with small money but foreign design and foreign money. And the AC is only about design and money, you should know that. Blah blah blah. No one cares where the money comes from. It’s irrelevant, like your troll posts lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tornado-Cat 810 #4983 Posted July 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Gissie said: Desig, money and lawyers, can't forget them. Well, that was missing in this AC until now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NZL3481 370 #4984 Posted July 14, 2020 6 hours ago, Stingray~ said: But dang, those F50’s are on a great development path too, there’s for sure room for both events. The problem is what they are now is what they needed to be in Bermuda when it mattered... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horn Rock 1,196 #4985 Posted July 14, 2020 19 minutes ago, NZL3481 said: The problem is what they are now is what they needed to be in Bermuda when it mattered... They didn't know what a fast cat looked like until ETNZ showed up. It was very educational for Russ and Jimmy. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JJD 69 #4986 Posted July 14, 2020 4 hours ago, smackdaddy said: And your feeble attempt at spin is almost as bad as Four's. Keep trying jj. Spin is not really my style. I get a giggle out of all your kiwi smack talk, but totally draw the line at being compared to Four Clarkey. I demand an apology...... FWIW, Ive watched ETNZ do pre start practice. My take is they will be waaaay more interesting and exciting than bermuda. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indio 777 #4987 Posted July 14, 2020 1 hour ago, NZL3481 said: The problem is what they are now is what they needed to be in Bermuda when it mattered... What they are now is 3 years too late.. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thetruth 44 #4988 Posted July 14, 2020 On 7/7/2020 at 6:37 PM, Hawke said: I was referring to their past record/experience. Somewhere in this long litigation by forum posts someone mentioned issues with VOR. Also this comment was mad about them following the World Rowing Champs: But one senior 2010 insider, told of Mayo's new job, said: "The rowing community all feel that if this guy had been put in charge of a business, and got it into that state inside two years, the shareholders and directors would boot him out, because he would've made it insolvent. "Why is it different in sport? Why does he walk away without any accountability?"..... There were also suggestions organisers missed a prime marketing opportunity by going on a team-building horse-riding exercise on the day that Rowing New Zealand named its team. The thing that stood out for me was the "surplus" from the AKl Volvo stopover, $200,000. Not a lot left Share this post Link to post Share on other sites