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19 minutes ago, Jules said:

If you have learned anything about women, you know women like this will...

Never mind.  You know.

Remember somewhere there is a guy who is sick of here shit.

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2 hours ago, Toecutter's Ghost said:

Bruce needs to get on the case.

Great..... I will go buy a carton of beer and drink myself into a stupor to miss that.

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1 hour ago, LB 15 said:

 

Remember somewhere there is a guy who is sick of her() shit.

Great... what's her phone number? I will exchange that carton of beer for Moet.

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Where is Bruce today? His mothers phone must have run out of data.

 

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From today's Australian

"Forestry industry, CFMEU Union united on logging, burns to take fight to bushfires - NSW  Government condidering stripping land management from Environment Department"

- Powerful Construction, Forestry,  Maritime, Mining & Energy Union (CFMEU) call for "fuel loads to be aggressively managed" through reduction burning and selective logging saying locking up forests not the answer and impacts upon ability to deal with fires. Spot on.

- Now some shitfuckery from the politicians right on cue. They are considering stripping land management and hazard reduction from the NSW Dept of Planning, Industry and Environment (Environmental Ministry) on the grounds the Environment Department is seen as "too conservationist." If enacted the role would fall solely within the responsibilities of the Rural Fire Service. So in short throwing under the bus the only agency the green lobby potentially have any regard for.

But hang on a moment.

"Cool/Control/Prescribed Burning" is proven to be of large environmental benefit?

It dramatically reduces the incidence and intensity of "Hot Fires" later in the dry season. This reduces the amount of damage done to ecosystems, shortens recovery  time, promotes  new growth, clears waste materials and reduces greenhouse gas emissions.

If politicians don't know this and accept it, how is the man in the street to know? Shouldn't they surely be publicising the fuck out of the environmental benefit, not hiding it in a cupboard?

Instead they are looking to put the role of lead decision making agency in the hands of those (the Rural Fire Service) that the public will naturally perceive as not having a "core" environmental interest as their mandate and expertise is fires and fires only, full stop.

Furthermore it will create tension between a conservative Government and left Opposition at a time when concensus is required. In fact it will create tension in the Government's own party between urban and rural representative members. That in turn makes vital community consensus a uphill battle.

What a bunch of myopic fools. No wonder nothing is ever achieved year in year out and the shitfuckery just repeats itself.

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14 hours ago, jack_sparrow said:
18 hours ago, Mohammed Bin Lyin said:

Main stream media need fucking up the arse dry.

This headline in the Australian newspaper is a classic example that gets trotted out every fire season.

The first reaction from the punter reading this shitfuckery is no arsonists equals no fires. Then competing with that thought is no climate change equals no fires. So shoot arsonists on the spot and buy a Tesla or put methanol fuel in your car and bush fires will suddenly stop. No wonder the average punter hasn't a fucking clue......

At least the Cartoonists are keeping up to speed.

 

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54 minutes ago, LB 15 said:

Where is Bruce today? His mothers phone must have run out of data.

 

Bruce is doing another Masters Degree this week I believe. Something about the "flammability index" and "velocity" of Gerbils.

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3 hours ago, LB 15 said:

Where is Bruce today? His mothers phone must have run out of data.

 

no, his nurses finally managed to get him to keep down his meds. 

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On ‎1‎/‎4‎/‎2020 at 3:21 PM, The Dark Knight said:

Various interest groups, be they factions within the major parties, Greens and other minor parties and independents.  

The opposition seems to be more focused on opposing everything proposed by the government rather than doing what is in the best interest for the country, which gives the minor parties and independents more power than they should have.

We need a government that has a single vision for the country, without factions tearing the vision apart from within and has a majority support of the voters in both houses.

 

Geez, where have I heard something like this before? Ahh, yes! Here in the States we call it "partisan gridlock". I call it sloganeering masquerading as governing.

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We are in serious danger of encountering the same crisis here. It is now just about impossible to legally brush native habitat on private property in California even though Calfire and the local FDs constantly preach defensible space around structures. It's only anecdotal but a friend of mine once lived in a newly built residential subdivision in SoCal that backed up to open space that consisted largely of what we call chaparral fringed by areas of native grasses that cloaked the hillsides right up to his back fence. Chaparral is woody small trees and brush growing to a height of 5-8 feet and it burns HOT but takes a bit to get going. Grass burns FAST! Fast enough to overwhelm containment efforts. Well, my friend and his neighbors buzzed the grassy areas down to two inch stubble and, when a brush fire later broke out and started consuming the chaparral, a funny thing happened. It got to the stubble and stopped cold. You could see the completely blackened areas perfectly delineated at the boundary with the brown stubble. Only problem is if he tried that now he'd get a fine for illegal disruption of habitat. The tree huggers are a pestilence everywhere. If I ever moved to a rural area, the space around my house would go through an immaculate devegetation, most likely during the night when I have an airtight alibi and it'll be "Those midnight habitat rapers, if I ever catch them they'll pay for this."

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3 hours ago, kinardly said:

We are in serious danger of encountering the same crisis here. It is now just about impossible to legally brush native habitat on private property in California even though Calfire and the local FDs constantly preach defensible space around structures. It's only anecdotal but a friend of mine once lived in a newly built residential subdivision in SoCal that backed up to open space that consisted largely of what we call chaparral fringed by areas of native grasses that cloaked the hillsides right up to his back fence. Chaparral is woody small trees and brush growing to a height of 5-8 feet and it burns HOT but takes a bit to get going. Grass burns FAST! Fast enough to overwhelm containment efforts. Well, my friend and his neighbors buzzed the grassy areas down to two inch stubble and, when a brush fire later broke out and started consuming the chaparral, a funny thing happened. It got to the stubble and stopped cold. You could see the completely blackened areas perfectly delineated at the boundary with the brown stubble. Only problem is if he tried that now he'd get a fine for illegal disruption of habitat. The tree huggers are a pestilence everywhere. If I ever moved to a rural area, the space around my house would go through an immaculate devegetation, most likely during the night when I have an airtight alibi and it'll be "Those midnight habitat rapers, if I ever catch them they'll pay for this."

See if you can find the NPR story or better yet the American Indian who was intereviewed just a ouple days ago in taht story, about the use of fire in the pre-European days and the criminalization of traditional ways. Very interesting and seems parallel to the Australian issue. I knw that the Chaparall became a sore point because the very fast development of the 80s was eating it up very quickly but then of course nobody was thinkinga about the long term experiene of the peole who lived there for longest.

Humans are a strange creature.

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5 hours ago, kinardly said:

We are in serious danger of encountering the same crisis here. It is now just about impossible to legally brush native habitat on private property in California even though Calfire and the local FDs constantly preach defensible space around structures.....

.....Only problem is if he tried that now he'd get a fine for illegal disruption of habitat........The tree huggers are a pestilence everywhere. .....

 

1 hour ago, fastyacht said:

See if you can find the NPR story or better yet the American Indian who was intereviewed just a ouple days ago in taht story, about the use of fire in the pre-European days and the criminalization of traditional ways. Very interesting and seems parallel to the Australian issue..... nobody was thinkinga about the long term experiene of the peole who lived there for longest.

Humans are a strange creature.

In Australia's case it gets worse than just ignoring indigenous experience and practises. It also ignores modern practises. 

First remember the key indigenous principle is reducing the "fire load." When that fire load builds it doesn't just just do so in "quantum" to increase the intensity of uncontrolled "hot fires," but also it changes characteristics the longer it has been there. One of those characteristics is the rotting forrest floor level vegetation gives off methane that does wonderful things like increase the likelihood of ignition to providing no better fire accelerant you can find.

You know what most Rural Fire Services personal are discussing in the truck either going to try and tame a bushfire or in those rare occurences, undertaking control/prescribed burning? "Wonder what the fuel loads are on the ground?" That what determines the risk of them getting hurt or killed.

Anyway enough of the warm up (can't resist those puns). The world's driest continent and with natural vegetation species having some of the highest flammability indexes you would be forgiven for thinking that Australia is at the forefront of modern fire management practises beyond just indigenous ones such as Cool Burning. Unfortunately not.

Google a company called Global NRG an international outfit that specialises turning waste products into energy. What they do instead of using Cool Burning they have machinary designed to harvest forrest floors and do thinning to reduce the fuel build up.

They take all the fallen organic material between the trees then turn it into gas (just as it was doing by itself uncontrollably) and a variety of products like kitty litter, BBQ briquettes or bio products used to artificially improve soil quality like that available from your local garden centre or for moisture retention in broad hectare farming techniques etc.

They do this shit in places like Alaska, Norway and Finland etc with proven results.  

They first pitched the concept to Australian State Governments 9 years ago in 2011, just after the "Black Saturday" Victorian Royal Commission Recommendations were published. Recommendations including greatly increasing the amount of control/prescribed burning to reduce fuel loads. To add insult to injury it also mentioned that the Government were identically advised this years before  Black Saturday and they ignored that (more on Victoria in another post now that I'm on fire so to speak)

Anyway those innovative and experienced people from Global NRG have made follow up visits down under over the last 9 years and toured meeting State departments and politicians. Trouble is it seems they all keep losing Global NRG's phone number or something??They have never been followed up!!!!

 @fastyacht you say "strange creatures" those humans in charge....  I say "dead cunts."

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1 hour ago, cosmicsedso said:

Follow the money!

Normally I would automatically agree if "greed" is a factor, but here I think you will find you are wrong for natural disasters like fires and floods. It is cyclical so "dumb" comes to mind before "greed". 

Mitigating natural disasters costs money largely from State budgets where spending is allocated according to Government policies. Then every 10 or 15 years a major natural disaster hits. The insurance industry then gets hit with a bill they can't jump over. 

They then directly and indirectly increase insurance premiums for everyone with an policy, regardless on what it is for. Even policies on those who own a boat, which is both immune to and a haven against bushfires and floods.

The cycle starts again with that State by State natural disaster budget allowance remaining unchanged....blah blah off we go again.

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On 1/7/2020 at 2:12 PM, dfw_sailor said:

Mapping transformations between 2d representations and various geoidal approximations of the earth.  Plugging numbers into the ol' hp would have been fine,  but no.... we had to know it all. In the exam it meant having to get from a starting formula to an end formula through about 3 handwritten pages of triple integrals and related derivations. All pure math, not applied.

The interesting stuff was least squares network adjustment theory and practice,  which is usd a lot in geodetic surveying,  but it's not terribly math heavy.

i have a maths degree (dynamic systems mostly).   I’d say the maths component of that was pretty tough.   just say’n

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On 1/9/2020 at 1:48 PM, jack_sparrow said:

Google a company called Global NRG an international outfit that specialises turning waste products into energy. What they do instead of using Cool Burning they have machinary designed to harvest forrest floors and do thinning to reduce the fuel build up.

They take all the fallen organic material between the trees then turn it into gas (just as it was doing by itself uncontrollably) and a variety of products like kitty litter, BBQ briquettes or bio products used to artificially improve soil quality like that available from your local garden centre or for moisture retention in broad hectare farming techniques etc.

They do this shit in places like Alaska, Norway and Finland etc with proven results.  

They first pitched the concept to Australian State Governments 9 years ago in 2011, just after the "Black Saturday" Victorian Royal Commission Recommendations were published. Recommendations including greatly increasing the amount of control/prescribed burning to reduce fuel loads. To add insult to injury it also mentioned that the Government were identically advised this years before  Black Saturday and they ignored that (more on Victoria in another post now that I'm on fire so to speak)

Anyway those innovative and experienced people from Global NRG have made follow up visits down under over the last 9 years and toured meeting State departments and politicians. Trouble is it seems they all keep losing Global NRG's phone number or something??They have never been followed up!!!!

Jack here in Albany we've installed a biomass boiler that's used to heat the pool at our Leisure and Aquatic centre. The Biomass boiler is provided by a local company, WA Biofuels, that provides a range of bioenergy services here in WA.  We also had a briquette plant a number of years ago that was exporting the briquettes for energy. We have a sizeable Blue Gum plantation industry within about 100km of Albany so all the waste wood, such as cuttings, are chipped down and then used for the biomass boiler. So it's being done just not by Global NRG. Could, and should, be done on a much larger scale.

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46 minutes ago, albanyguy said:

Jack here in Albany we've installed a biomass boiler that's used to heat the pool at our Leisure and Aquatic centre. The Biomass boiler is provided by a local company, WA Biofuels,........so all the waste wood, such as cuttings, are chipped down and then used for the biomass boiler. So it's being done  just not by Global NRG. Could, and should, be done on a much larger scale.

Albany I'm quite sure. Maybe this a coincidence??? The Western Australian Govt "Red Book" is the fire reduction standard.

WA control/ prescribe burns around 10 times the Ha rate of any other state. The physical collection you speak of would be on top of/assist that. They must think this book in the east a piece of communist propaganda as no one in the eastern states appears to have read it.

 

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A lot of whinging on about climate change just continues to get published. I cannot fathom how that could possibly be a good use of political muscle when your country is burning. Obvious ly near term real solutions to fire are what matter, no?

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jan/04/australias-bushfires-politics-has-to-change-forever-when-your-own-citizens-cannot-sleep-or-breathe

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The Guardian is written by and for the members of the church. It is like the catholic leader.  

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Anyone got a gun.

PS. I would give them a 10 on the dress up though..very effective. Fonda still looks bangable but grumpy.

 

 

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A sensible statement on fires & climate change without the teen panic message...

 

https://www.science.org.au/news-and-events/news-and-media-releases/statement-regarding-australian-bushfires?fbclid=IwAR1F6Dj8pCQKcELoJWJtyjhbclPX1FytuNChjlwEPcg1Yh0zSGy-CqglGJY

 

Statement regarding Australian bushfires

January 10, 2020
johnshine-350.jpg Academy President Professor John Shine

The Australian Academy of Science acknowledges the devastating impact the Australian bushfires are having—and will continue to have—on people, our environment and our economy.

The scale of these bushfires is unprecedented anywhere in the world.

The Academy extends its support and sympathy to all those who have lost loved ones and whose lives are directly and indirectly impacted. We thank the many volunteers, individuals, leaders and foreign nations for their efforts and contributions.

As an independent and authoritative scientific adviser to the parliament and to the nation, the Academy draws on the scientific expertise of Australia’s leading scientists—the Fellows of the Academy.

The scientific evidence base shows that as the world warms due to human induced climate change, we experience an increase in the frequency and severity of extreme weather events.

As a nation, we must deal with extreme weather events more effectively than we currently do. As such events become more frequent and severe, we must adapt Australia and Australians accordingly, as well as strengthen mitigation efforts.

Bushfires, along with other weather and climate challenges, pose complex and wide-ranging problems. Population growth, climate change, temperature extremes, droughts, storms, wind and floods are intersecting in ways that are difficult to untangle and address.

The good news is that there is already abundant evidence available to help us understand the environment we live in and to design and build the future we want for Australia. There has never been a more important time to draw on that scientific evidence base to help guide Australia’s short- and long-term responses to the devastating bushfires ravaging our nation and that are causing uncertainty about our future.

The Academy’s Fellows are contributing and will continue to contribute their scientific expertise to government and other decision makers in the interest of advancing our nation.

The Academy is resolute that the response to the bushfires must extend beyond the immediate and essential need to rebuild and recover.

Everything, including urban planning; building standards; habitat restoration; biodiversity and species preservation; and land, water and wildlife management will need careful and measured consideration.

We must further improve our ability to forecast changing environmental threats and continually improve climate modelling predictions. We must improve our understanding of fire behaviour and other adverse weather events, and we must continually develop new technologies, practices and behaviours to assist our nation to respond and adapt to, manage, and mitigate against such extreme events.

All the while, Australia must take stronger action as its part of the worldwide commitment to limit global warming to 1.5° C above the long-term average to reduce the worst impacts of climate change.

To have the best chance of succeeding, we must draw on all the available evidence and knowledge, including working with Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples and undertaking further research where it will have the most benefit.

The Academy is aware that Australians are looking for trustworthy information and answers about the links between climate change and the bushfires. With much misinformation in the public domain about the cause and impacts of the bushfires, we urge Australians to continue to consult reputable sources of evidence-based information such as the Australian Academy of Science, CSIRO and the Bureau of Meteorology.

In this context, visits to the Academy's website are up 30 per cent compared to the same period last year, and the top visited page is What is Climate Change? Viewing and sharing of the Academy’s video series on this matter published across social media platforms are rapidly rising.

Professor John Shine AC PresAA
President
Australian Academy of Science.

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Bushfires, along with other weather and climate challenges, pose complex and wide-ranging problems. From the article posted by the President of the Australian Academy of Sciences.

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5 hours ago, The Dark Knight said:

A sensible statement on fires & climate change without the teen panic message...

A lovely statement, probably took 5 PR firms to write it for him. What exactly have the Australian Academy of Science contributed to say the last 5 major bushfire enquiries in the last 20 years? It won't take you long reading that contribution. Another bushfire wanker.

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Flew over the south east Australian fires yesterday some areas extensively burnt out and other large areas untouched particularly south of eden

but got a good view of the wood chip fire and smoke but that is isolated

Bit puzzled why the panic to evacuate eden for instance and maybe emphasis of getting people out of harms way early which is new makes things sound a lot worse in some instances

but then again I live in a small town which had been completely burnt out four times since 1880

so nothing new

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The truth about Australia's fires — arsonists aren't responsible for many this season

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Only about 1 per cent of the land burnt in NSW this bushfire season can be officially attributed to arson, and it is even less in Victoria, the ABC can reveal.

 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-11/australias-fires-reveal-arson-not-a-major-cause/11855022

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Fuck you believe what the ABC says

i can’t help you

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Personally for me this Christmas the weather has been great

at 27 south there was 2 weeks of perfect light easterlies for being down the bay cruising 

and at 42 south being a great summer nice breeze and not too warm and no westerlies

it is just the bit in between that is troublesome 

but hey it is a big country

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27 minutes ago, lydia said:

Personally for me this Christmas the weather has been great

at 27 south there was 2 weeks of perfect light easterlies for being down the bay cruising 

and at 42 south being a great summer nice breeze and not too warm and no westerlies

it is just the bit in between that is troublesome 

but hey it is a big country

It's been pretty fucked in Melbourne. Normally you get 4-5 hot days in a row and the a SW change cooling it down. This year we get 1 really hot day and then the change.

We've had to put on the bloody heater twice within days of having the AC on full for our 1 day scorchers.

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30 minutes ago, The Dark Knight said:

It's been pretty fucked in Melbourne. Normally you get 4-5 hot days in a row and the a SW change cooling it down. This year we get 1 really hot day and then the change.

We've had to put on the bloody heater twice within days of having the AC on full for our 1 day scorchers.

It's Climate change buddy,  not global warming. 

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10 hours ago, The Dark Knight said:

A sensible statement on fires & climate change without the teen panic message...

 

https://www.science.org.au/news-and-events/news-and-media-releases/statement-regarding-australian-bushfires?fbclid=IwAR1F6Dj8pCQKcELoJWJtyjhbclPX1FytuNChjlwEPcg1Yh0zSGy-CqglGJY

 

Statement regarding Australian bushfires

January 10, 2020

johnshine-350.jpg Academy President Professor John Shine

The Australian Academy of Science acknowledges the devastating impact the Australian bushfires are having—and will continue to have—on people, our environment and our economy.

The scale of these bushfires is unprecedented anywhere in the world.

The Academy extends its support and sympathy to all those who have lost loved ones and whose lives are directly and indirectly impacted. We thank the many volunteers, individuals, leaders and foreign nations for their efforts and contributions.

As an independent and authoritative scientific adviser to the parliament and to the nation, the Academy draws on the scientific expertise of Australia’s leading scientists—the Fellows of the Academy.

The scientific evidence base shows that as the world warms due to human induced climate change, we experience an increase in the frequency and severity of extreme weather events.

As a nation, we must deal with extreme weather events more effectively than we currently do. As such events become more frequent and severe, we must adapt Australia and Australians accordingly, as well as strengthen mitigation efforts.

Bushfires, along with other weather and climate challenges, pose complex and wide-ranging problems. Population growth, climate change, temperature extremes, droughts, storms, wind and floods are intersecting in ways that are difficult to untangle and address.

The good news is that there is already abundant evidence available to help us understand the environment we live in and to design and build the future we want for Australia. There has never been a more important time to draw on that scientific evidence base to help guide Australia’s short- and long-term responses to the devastating bushfires ravaging our nation and that are causing uncertainty about our future.

The Academy’s Fellows are contributing and will continue to contribute their scientific expertise to government and other decision makers in the interest of advancing our nation.

The Academy is resolute that the response to the bushfires must extend beyond the immediate and essential need to rebuild and recover.

Everything, including urban planning; building standards; habitat restoration; biodiversity and species preservation; and land, water and wildlife management will need careful and measured consideration.

We must further improve our ability to forecast changing environmental threats and continually improve climate modelling predictions. We must improve our understanding of fire behaviour and other adverse weather events, and we must continually develop new technologies, practices and behaviours to assist our nation to respond and adapt to, manage, and mitigate against such extreme events.

All the while, Australia must take stronger action as its part of the worldwide commitment to limit global warming to 1.5° C above the long-term average to reduce the worst impacts of climate change.

To have the best chance of succeeding, we must draw on all the available evidence and knowledge, including working with Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples and undertaking further research where it will have the most benefit.

The Academy is aware that Australians are looking for trustworthy information and answers about the links between climate change and the bushfires. With much misinformation in the public domain about the cause and impacts of the bushfires, we urge Australians to continue to consult reputable sources of evidence-based information such as the Australian Academy of Science, CSIRO and the Bureau of Meteorology.

In this context, visits to the Academy's website are up 30 per cent compared to the same period last year, and the top visited page is What is Climate Change? Viewing and sharing of the Academy’s video series on this matter published across social media platforms are rapidly rising.

Professor John Shine AC PresAA
President
Australian Academy of Science.

Sensible?

 

It basically couches 'give us more money' between a couple of woke statements on climate and aboriginals.

 

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Just some sense of scale for you foreigners..

The brown and slightly-brown green patches on the coastal fringe are burnt.  Inland light brown is non-forested.

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4Jan was around the worst in SE Aus

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Read this on an offshore newsletter I get. Kudos to the crew.

Helping out at Mallacoota.

There’s been a lot of stories about the Army and Navy efforts in the area.

I’ve spent the week onboard the rig tender Far 
Saricon
. They arrived on scene days before the other 
services with a crew of 14 Aussie and Kiwi sailors. 
They have worked around the clock to keep us going. 
They worked tirelessly looking after sick people, the 
elderly, infants even special needs teenagers. They fed 
us. Gave us beds. Even made sure we had clean 
uniforms and underwear. They maintained our boats 
and kept an eye on them while we slept. They did this 
all while supplying Mallacoota with food, water and 
diesel. They did all of this on top of running the ship. 
This was the most organised and professional work 
place that I have ever seen. The ship was the most 
immaculately presented and maintained workplace 
that I’ve been to. On land or sea. I’m not trying to 
take away from the efforts of emergency services and 
military. The captain and crew of this ship deserve to 
be recognised. Their family and friends need to know 
how good they are at what they do and what they 
have done for the town of Mallacoota.

As you all know I’m not big on social media. If you’ve bothered to read to this point can you please help me spread the message and hopefully if makes it to some of the family and friends of this fantastic bunch of proud Australian sea faerers (By Chris John Nairey)

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Climate change. Let the protests begin

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RAIN FOR MOST CAPITALS

Thick bands of rain are creeping down both the west and east of the country, leaving only South Australia and the southern Northern Territory lacking in any noticeable moisture.

In the east, potentially as much as 50-100mm of rain could fall in some areas of the Queensland and NSW coasts and far into inland areas during the next week.

“It’s only light but rain is desperately needed and it will help to clear some smoke and ease fire dangers,” Ms Osborne said.

Brisbane will be soggy from Tuesday onwards with highs nudging 30C and some heavy showers. Cairns, in the tropics, is looking at about 50mm of rain this week.

The weather has settled in Sydney for the next few days with highs in the late 20Cs. But from Thursday onwards, storms might be seen above the Harbour City with 5-10mm falling each day.

 

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I just want to thank all the protesters. ScoMo heard you and made it rain. 

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6 minutes ago, LB 15 said:

I just want to thank all the protesters. ScoMo heard you and made it rain. 

Spooner the Cartoonist gets it....so there is hope.

Note for Non-Aust: "Bandt" is the leader of the Greens in the Australian Parliament. 

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That lisp of his is bit of a giveaway.

NTTIAWWT.

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14 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:

Can't be an arse bandit..got a woman wifey.

Bet that cost him a few votes in inner city Melbourne.

 

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3 hours ago, jack_sparrow said:

Spooner the Cartoonist gets it....so there is hope.

Note for Non-Aust: "Bandt" is the leader of the Greens in the Australian Parliament. 

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Why does the Green leadership make me think of this product

 

https://shop.goop.com/shop/products/this-smells-like-my-vagina-candle?country=USA

 

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7 minutes ago, The Dark Knight said:

Why does the Green leadership make me think of this product

I thought they only promoted stuff that smelled and tasted like bum crack not front crack??

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51 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:

I thought they only promoted stuff that smelled and tasted like bum crack not front crack??

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The Greens and green left in Labour are on fire.

Australia's conservative government are responsible for the weather, the fires, the dry earth, scorching wind, death, destruction and doomsday predictions that measure in months. Then if there is a whimper of denial that is all lies as Australia was built by lying convicts.

Fuck who would want to be PM.

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On 1/11/2020 at 1:08 PM, jack_sparrow said:

A lovely statement, probably took 5 PR firms to write it for him. What exactly have the Australian Academy of Science contributed to say the last 5 major bushfire enquiries in the last 20 years? It won't take you long reading that contribution. Another bushfire wanker.

I once talked to a guy via ham radio--right across the Indian Ocean from me--using a wire dipole I made myself.

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43 minutes ago, fastyacht said:

Wait, what? You mean the weather isn't supposed to be the same every year?

The social media generation thinks it should be. Hence why every year is now the "new normal".

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Just now, Toecutter's Ghost said:

The social media generation thinks it should be. Hence why every year is now the "new normal".

to be fair - if your immediate life outlook is the next 5 minutes of twitter, then your long range forecast doesn't extend beyond tomorrow.

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2 hours ago, jack_sparrow said:

The green movement are wanting the word "dipole" banned.

 

They are more of an 'end on end' crowd I suspect. Saves destroying the planet by buying those unnecessary lazy sheets and braces.

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5 hours ago, fastyacht said:

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Hot enough to melt aluminium, then. Not bad, that's 660C for pure aluminium IIRC.

Glad I wasn't there. Even if it has been photoshopped.

FKT

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15 minutes ago, Fah Kiew Tu said:

Hot enough to melt aluminium, then. Not bad, that's 660C for pure aluminium IIRC.

Glad I wasn't there. Even if it has been photoshopped.

FKT

That's a New York Times image. I don't know what they do about verifying photos. Hopefully it is better than their copy editing.

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You can't make this shit up....

 

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Bots and trolls spread false arson claims in Australian fires ‘disinformation campaign’

Online posts exaggerating the role of arson are being used to undermine the link between bushfires and climate change

Bot and troll accounts are involved in a “disinformation campaign” exaggerating the role of arson in Australia’s bushfire disaster, social media analysis suggests.

The bushfires burning across the nation have been accompanied by repeated suggestions of an arson epidemic or “arson emergency”.

The false claims are, in some cases, used to undermine the link between the current bushfires and the longer, more intense fire seasons brought about by climate change.

The Queensland University of Technology senior lecturer on social network analysis Dr Timothy Graham examined content published on the #arsonemergency hashtag on Twitter, assessing 1,340 tweets, 1,203 of which were unique, published by 315 accounts.

First class bullshit at work. Not just a lecturer, but a senior lecturer no less, in "social network analysis" draws a conclusion from hashtag analysis of 1340 tweets (500 000 000 tweets made per day on average) and primarily 315 Twitter accounts (compared to 321 000 000 accounts in total)?

 

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41 minutes ago, Sidecar said:

It is possible. After the Dunalley Fire, I saw a melted “tinnie” or two and at least one roadside “trickle” sculpture is adorning a wall at a friend’s house..... I am sure that the Gippsland/ far south NSW fires were much worse....

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/blaze-hot-enough-to-melt-metal-destroyed-nsw-street/ar-BBYwWAF

https://ecos.csiro.au/bushfire-in-australia-understanding-hell-on-earth/

Wood burns close to the melting point of aluminium. Probably a lot higher when fanned by wind. Tinnies and alloy mags are made of magnesium and silicon alloys of aluminium respectively, both of which melt at a lower temperature than 1100 series (pure) alloys. Silicon especially. And because aluminium is "hot short" it changes phase between being solid and liquid within a very narrow temperature band. Add to that the lower viscosity of silicon alloys and  presto! - rivers of molten shiny metal.

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UK Labour party MP's maiden speech yesterday in Westminister. I'm sure Australia and Indonesia really glad they helped her out with the copy. Shame Guy Fawkes got his matches wet.

 

 

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Escape disaster capitalism and build disaster socialism.

 

FIFY Zarah.

 

What a nice lass..

Try and stop me when the likes of Blair, Netanyahu and Bush die... The sooner they meet their creator the better. The concepts of justice and accountability don't truly exist in this life. Only in the next.

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23 minutes ago, duncan (the other one) said:

Escape disaster capitalism and build disaster socialism.

 

FIFY Zarah.

 

What a nice lass..

Try and stop me when the likes of Blair, Netanyahu and Bush die... The sooner they meet their creator the better. The concepts of justice and accountability don't truly exist in this life. Only in the next.

Another product of social media cluelessness.

These dill pickles need to pick up a history book or at least google some history before sprouting their Twitteresque crap.

I'd also suggest a field trip to a certain country located between China and South Korea representing itself as a model of socialist utopia wouldn't go astray, either.

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David Attenborough criticises Australian government, says 'moment of crisis' has come

 

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Noting the destruction being caused by Australia's current wave of bushfires, Attenborough criticised Canberra's approach to climate change, saying the government's support for coal mines showed the world it did not care about the environment.

"As I speak, south-east Australia is on fire. Why? Because the temperatures of the Earth are increasing," the 93-year-old told the BBC in an interview.

He said it was "palpable nonsense" for some politicians and commentators to suggest that the Australian fires were nothing to do with the world becoming warmer.

"We know perfectly well," he said, that human activity is behind the heating of the planet.

 

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messanger attack in 4 3 2 1 go

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2 hours ago, Mid said:

messanger attack in 4 3 2 1 go

From The Guardian

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I have always been entranced by Attenborough’s wildlife programmes, but astonished by his consistent failure to mount a coherent, truthful and effective defence of the living world he loves. His revelation of the wonders of nature has been a great public service. But withholding the knowledge we need to defend it is, I believe, a grave disservice.

And then there was  walrus-gate

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On 1/16/2020 at 11:21 AM, Toecutter's Ghost said:

...I'd also suggest a field trip to a certain country located between China and South Korea representing itself as a model of socialist utopia wouldn't go astray, either.

Such a field trip can be pretty cheap..providing your family/estate get a refund on your return ticket.

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13 hours ago, Mid said:

 

13 hours ago, Mid said:

messanger attack in 4 3 2 1 go

Why?

 

He is a well respected naturalist who is saying nothing that many of us already know and accept. He is not trying to cause a panic or asking us to do anything unrealistic.

No reason to attack him what so ever.

 

He is no undereducated panic merchant 16 year old Swedish girl with an attitude...

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Dalai Lama Expresses Sorrow Over Bushfire Devastation in Australia

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“It is simply heart-wrenching to see reports of these ferocious infernos, while the personal bravery of so many volunteers who have come together as firefighters is an inspiration,” the Tibetan spiritual leader wrote in a letter to Australian prime minister Scott Morrison. “I offer my condolences to the families of those who have died and to the many people who have lost their homes in these fires.” (His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama of Tibet)

https://www.buddhistdoor.net/news/dalai-lama-expresses-sorrow-over-bushfire-devastation-in-australia

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^^

 

so the problem is a 16 yr old speaking the truth as opposed to a well respected naturalist doing the same ...

 

 

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45 minutes ago, Mid said:

^^

 

so the problem is a 16 yr old speaking the truth as opposed to a well respected naturalist doing the same ...

 

 

No, the problem is a 16 year old girl with no credentials trying to spread a message of unnecessary panic and with an attitude and behaviour that alienates fence sitters, sceptics and even supporters.  

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Aussie needs to accept it is the cause of its own conflagration and immediately stop all coal exports.

They should also learn Mandarin fast because the Chinese will be over in a flash to take it anyway. Unless of course Greta and David tell them it is bad. Yeah right, they won't say and China won't listen.

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10 minutes ago, Gissie said:

Aussie needs to accept it is the cause of its own conflagration and immediately stop all coal exports.

They should also learn Mandarin fast because the Chinese will be over in a flash to take it anyway. Unless of course Greta and David tell them it is bad. Yeah right, they won't say and China won't listen.

“Will be over” ....  They are already here!

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22 minutes ago, Gissie said:

They should also learn Mandarin fast because the Chinese will be over in a flash to take it anyway. Unless of course Greta and David tell them it is bad. Yeah right, they won't say and China won't listen.

Went to a Chinese restaurant in Melbourne the other day. On the menu the dish names and descriptions were in Chinese with only the dish name translated to English.

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57 minutes ago, The Dark Knight said:

No, the problem is a 16 year old girl with no credentials trying to spread a message of unnecessary panic and with an attitude and behaviour that alienates fence sitters, sceptics and even supporters.  

as was her intent, she's raised simple awareness ya crazy fkr, and you can spew till you're an empty gas bag on the ground, but it won't change the fact that she's made her exceedingly important point and the world is a better place because of it. 

you might as well stfu, already.

 

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Just now, 3to1 said:

as was her intent, she's raised simple awareness ya crazy fkr, and you you can spew till you're an empty gas bag on the ground, but it won't change the fact that she's made her exceedingly important point and the world is a better place because of it. 

you might as well stfu, already.

 

You are just a dumb fuck... the world is no different because no one important is listening to her. 

The only people she has won over with her divisive message are some of the people who already accept climate change. To make the world a better place you need to win over the fence sitters and convert the sceptics. 

You left wing morons are so far up your own arse, you think that shouting is an effective tactic for every cause. You lot are just as bad as the Trump fucktards but of course you are too fucking dumb to realise that.

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14 minutes ago, The Dark Knight said:

Went to a Chinese restaurant in Melbourne the other day. On the menu the dish names and descriptions were in Chinese with only the dish name translated to English.

Went to a Chinese restaurant in Auckland 15 years ago. No English written or spoken at all. May as well been still in China. Just got even worse, but they call it progress. And get the fuck off my lawn.

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30 minutes ago, Rushman said:

“Will be over” ....  They are already here!

True, same here, just buying whatever they want. We just signed another trade agreement with the fuckers. As part of it China is prepared to supply more Mandarin teachers direct into our schools where there is no oversight of the curriculum. What a win that is. Clever little trade negotiators we have over here.

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8 hours ago, Gissie said:

Went to a Chinese restaurant in Auckland 15 years ago. No English written or spoken at all. May as well been still in China. Just got even worse, but they call it progress. And get the fuck off my lawn.

Here in the US, that's a feature, not a bug. It means the food is far more likely to be authentic and tasty as opposed to gooey and sickly sweet.

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2 hours ago, IStream said:

Here in the US, that's a feature, not a bug. It means the food is far more likely to be authentic and tasty as opposed to gooey and sickly sweet.

Agree, plus the noise. In a weird way I miss the cacophony of a large, busy Chinese restaurant.

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On 1/20/2020 at 9:08 PM, jack_sparrow said:

Like fucking hell burning one day...then wet and frozen the next ....nah climate change is shit isn't it.

 

 

Its been doing this the last 40+ years I've been alive! Its just normal! But now everyone can share pics and use dramatic words to make it sound like its a new thing, its caused by something other than god! Oh that's right, the new god, or religion substitute now prayers and thoughts arnt working, "climate change"! 

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