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Some possibilities:

  • Joe Biden/Corey Booker
  • Elizabeth Warren/Julián Castro
  • Bernie Sanders/Krystal Ball
  • Pete Buttigeig/Kyrsten Sinema

Next?
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18 minutes ago, Jules said:

Some possibilities:

  • Joe Biden/Corey Booker
  • Elizabeth Warren/Julián Castro
  • Bernie Sanders/Krystal Ball
  • Pete Buttigeig/Kyrsten Sinema

Next?
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No pairings with Wang?

- DSK

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27 minutes ago, Fakenews said:

Biden/Klobuchar

That’s not bad. 

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48 minutes ago, Fakenews said:

Biden/Klobuchar

I could comfortably support that

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Trump won in large part by promising to take on the banksters and tax the wealthy 

Why is it a bad idea for Dems to promise the same? 

And at the same time, we are in a struggle for the soul of the Dem party. Many of us want to take it back from the establishment/corporatists. 

And in fact, progressive stands on a range of issues poll very well among the voters

How about Warren/Steyer 

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2 hours ago, Steam Flyer said:

No pairings with Wang?

- DSK

Andrew Yang/Jeff Merkley

Tulsi Gabbard/Richard Ojeda

Michael Bloomberg/Jamie Dimand

On the Republican side
Bill Walsh/Stephanie Clifford

Bill Weld/Ralph Nader

 

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I like the Bloomberg/Diamond team. Uber competent financial stewardship combined with social justice and a classic liberal ideology.

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4 minutes ago, Fakenews said:

I like the Bloomberg/Diamond team. Uber competent financial stewardship combined with social justice and a classic liberal ideology.

And they have real money. I don’t think they’d try to make a profit from their offices.

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If you just need a pair that is smarter and more capable than Trump/Pence;

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Sanders/Murphy

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I was thinking Biden/Booker. The VP needs to be someone unpalatable to whatever new name the GOP comes up with for rebranding the TEA Party after the Smartest, Most Honest Man in the GOP is done, or more unpalatable than Biden. Warren would fit that bill too. 

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7 hours ago, Fakenews said:

Biden/Klobuchar

I don't think Biden will survive the melt down after Trump goes after his son in the first debate.   It is going to get nasty no matter who is on the other side of Trump.  Cheeto might not get any more voters but he can certainly help squelch a lot of the other 60% from coming out and voting for his challenger.   

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17 hours ago, bridhb said:

I don't think Biden will survive the melt down after Trump goes after his son in the first debate.   It is going to get nasty no matter who is on the other side of Trump.  Cheeto might not get any more voters but he can certainly help squelch a lot of the other 60% from coming out and voting for his challenger.   

Biden has been looking road weary lately.  I don't think he's going to physically handle the strain, let alone handle the mental strain Trump brings to the table.  Trump lives on controversy and lies.  Joe is a go-along, get-along guy.

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A specialist in de-programming religious cult followers for Pence, and a team of federal prosecutors with handcuffs for Trump. 

Pete Buttigeig for Prez.  He's sane, honest, smart, under 70 years old, and in touch with reality.

 

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1 minute ago, Happy said:

A specialist in de-programming religious cult followers for Pence, and a team of federal prosecutors with handcuffs for Trump. 

Pete Buttigeig for Prez.  He's sane, honest, smart, under 70 years old, and in touch with reality.

 

That's going to be a big negative in the midwest, or any where else in the Trumposphere. .

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Just now, Ishmael said:

That's going to be a big negative in the midwest, or any where else in the Trumposphere. .

He's a Democrat. They wouldn't vote for him anyway. 

And he's gay. Happily married stable relationship and a life with not a breath of scandal. Those people would rather vote for a pussy-grabbing accused rapist with multiple failed marriages and scandals. 

Presidential elections in the USA are a bit like a national IQ assessment. Obviously the stupid has been on the rise lately......

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6 minutes ago, Happy said:

He's a Democrat. They wouldn't vote for him anyway. 

And he's gay. Happily married stable relationship and a life with not a breath of scandal. Those people would rather vote for a pussy-grabbing accused rapist with multiple failed marriages and scandals. 

Presidential elections in the USA are a bit like a national IQ assessment. Obviously the stupid has been on the rise lately......

Obviously the smart has been on the decline in the administration government. What the fuck are merkins thinking? "Hi, I'm going to deport most of your family despite them being here with a business for 20 years and being the classic American success story."  Just what the fuck?

 

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These two are looking for a new start 
 

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2 minutes ago, Keith said:

These two are looking for a new start 
 

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I'd vote for them.

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There's talk of him being made GG.

It would probably soothe Liz if they repo'd the USA for her though. She can be POTUS 'cause she's native born and he can be VPOTUS.

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On 1/11/2020 at 5:12 PM, Fakenews said:

I like the Bloomberg/Diamond team. Uber competent financial stewardship combined with social justice and a classic liberal ideology.

Social justice?

Bloomberg is a drug warrior and only recently (and not very credibly) backed off from his support of stopping and frisking (overwhelmingly minority) people.

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Biden/Bloomberg/Buttigeig

mix and match any combination

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On 1/11/2020 at 9:26 PM, Mrleft8 said:

Sanders/Murphy

Eddie Murphy?

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27 minutes ago, dacapo said:

Biden/Bloomberg/Buttigeig

mix and match any combination

That's my thought as well. I worry a bit about Biden but he's good at foreign policy and we need that skill right now.

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6 hours ago, Happy said:

Presidential elections in the USA are a bit like a national IQ assessment. Obviously the stupid has been on the rise lately......

Don't forget the number of U.S. citizens who turn to their politicians to get the truth about science.  It's getting so that faction of the population believes anything that comes out of their party leader's mouths.  Believing a politician is the epitome of gullibility.

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I’d vote for Biden over Trump, as I’d vote for a dead dog over a rabid dog.    Please justify why he should be a first choice instead of a last resort.

He voted for the gulf war.     A screw up that colossal tends to detract from a foreign policy record as Captain Smith’s last oops blemishes his career with White Star Lines.    

He has no intention or plan to reform healthcare (a serious issue for those of you not already retired and enjoying government care)

There is no evidence climate change is a priority,   A concern for those of you that reproduced. 

He’s a familiar face and his name is easy to spell.   What else good can you say about him?   

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4 hours ago, Lark said:

I’d vote for Biden over Trump, as I’d vote for a dead dog over a rabid dog.   

What else good can you say about him?   

That he still owns the C2 Corvette he bought new?

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4 hours ago, Lark said:

He’s a familiar face and his name is easy to spell.   What else good can you say about him?   

He’s boring and competent enough to clean up all the shit Trumps going to leave.

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1 hour ago, SloopJonB said:
5 hours ago, Lark said:

I’d vote for Biden over Trump, as I’d vote for a dead dog over a rabid dog.   

What else good can you say about him?   

That he still owns the C2 Corvette he bought new?

I did not know that, is it true? It would be a great campaign ad, him with his iconically American car

Biden has been around a while, he's widely liked and respected. He knows the ins and outs of Washington well enough to start putting Humpty Dumpty back together again, and is likely to not inspire quite as much blind dug-in resistance as other Dems might.

- DSK

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1 hour ago, Mismoyled Jiblet. said:

He’s boring and competent enough to clean up all the shit Trumps going to leave.

VP Biden is a status quo candidate.  President Obama was a status quo candidate.   I liked and respected Obama, but not always his policies.   The status quo is what led to Trump's election.   If we don't accept change, if we allow problems to grow, the frustration will only get worse.   Remember, Trump won during a generally good economy, with falling unemployment and positive sustained growth.  Imagine the politics of the next recession if nothing changes.     I'm not comfortable with Andrew Yang's solutions, but he has a better then average understanding of the problems we face and are about to face, and drives by looking out the windshield instead of the rear view mirror.   Senator Sanders may even older then the other Democrats, but he seems less afraid of change then the rest of the retirement home.    Change is coming.   We cannot fall into the Republican trap of searching for some mythical 'good old days' period and try to recreate the Clinton or Obama Presidency.   I haven't followed all the candidates very closely, since likely there won't be a choice by the time it gets to Ohio.   I don't have opinions on the rest.

 

16 minutes ago, Steam Flyer said:

I did not know that, is it true? It would be a great campaign ad, him with his iconically American car

Biden has been around a while, he's widely liked and respected. He knows the ins and outs of Washington well enough to start putting Humpty Dumpty back together again, and is likely to not inspire quite as much blind dug-in resistance as other Dems might.

- DSK

Decent argument.   He would be reassuring to those who are not left behind, those on the coasts and to foreign leaders unsure what the US Leader's mood and policy will be this morning.   A pragmatic 'no drama' approach is needed on a fundamental working level, but that alone is not enough.   There needs to be a vision for the future as well.    Its been a long time since somebody has offered that.   

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I prefer a president who is in his mental prime. I prefer a very well educated fellow. I prefer a person who has served in the military or clearly demonstrates an understanding of how the minds of our soldiers work. I prefer someone who acts as a statesman / ambassador for the USA. I prefer someone who expresses respect for the rest of the world. I prefer someone who works to understand the motivations of our adversaries and allies. I prefer someone who has a history of following through and honoring commitments. I prefer a person who listens to advisors and gives credit to those who help him / her accomplish his/ her  goals.,

Previous failures are not individual disqualifiers but more than a very few of the following disqualifies:

 bad grades, arrests, bankruptcies, divorce, lost elections, Mental problems, drug use, lying, Association with “bad guys,” lawsuits, credible accusations of sexual assault, court judgements, fraud  convictions or settlements, court mandated fines and or penalties, evictions, bad credit, foreclosures, kicked off teams or out of clubs, paying anyone to be silent, does not sail, I  don’t like him/ her. 

 

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Regrettably to be assured of booting the Lying Mango out of office, you have to go with name familiarity and public image.  So the winner is:

Tom Hanks and Scarlett Johannsen 

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50 minutes ago, Lark said:

The status quo is what led to Trump's election.   If we don't accept change, if we allow problems to grow, the frustration will only get worse.

Yep!

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9 hours ago, Steam Flyer said:

I did not know that, is it true? It would be a great campaign ad, him with his iconically American car

 

True - it's a '66 or '67 roadster. He had it on Leno's car show along with Colin Powell in a more recent one - C6 IIRC.

The SS wouldn't let him drive it when he was VP - had to ride in armoured limos only.

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Got to be a campaign slogan in there somewhere.  Same car, same wife, ........?

While Trump has had 3 wives, divorces, multiple affairs, numerous bankruptcies, scores of lawsuits against him, .........

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3 minutes ago, jerseyguy said:

Got to be a campaign slogan in there somewhere.  Same car, same wife, ........?

While Trump has had 3 wives, divorces, multiple affairs, numerous bankruptcies, scores of lawsuits against him, .........

And he still can't drive.

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16 hours ago, Steam Flyer said:

I did not know that, is it true? It would be a great campaign ad, him with his iconically American car

Biden has been around a while, he's widely liked and respected. He knows the ins and outs of Washington well enough to start putting Humpty Dumpty back together again, and is likely to not inspire quite as much blind dug-in resistance as other Dems might.

- DSK

 

 

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On 1/11/2020 at 5:12 PM, Fakenews said:

I like the Bloomberg/Diamond team. Uber competent financial stewardship combined with social justice and a classic liberal ideology.

 

Jamie Diamond a liberal?  I doubt that....

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9 hours ago, Ishmael said:

And he still can't drive.

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But he makes the best vrooom, vrooom noises.

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1 hour ago, SloopJonB said:
10 hours ago, Ishmael said:

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But he makes the best vrooom, vrooom noises.

He looks like he's squeezing out a cheeseburger

- DSK

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Cheeseberder, please.....

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On 1/14/2020 at 3:00 PM, Mrleft8 said:

Cheeseberder, please.....

That looked more like a sideways dill pickle.

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On 1/14/2020 at 3:41 PM, Ishmael said:

And he still can't drive.

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still running 27MHz ?

Oz moved to UHF eon's ago .

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On 1/13/2020 at 7:22 AM, Lark said:

I’d vote for Biden over Trump, as I’d vote for a dead dog over a rabid dog.    Please justify why he should be a first choice instead of a last resort.

He voted for the gulf war.     A screw up that colossal tends to detract from a foreign policy record as Captain Smith’s last oops blemishes his career with White Star Lines.    

He has no intention or plan to reform healthcare (a serious issue for those of you not already retired and enjoying government care)

There is no evidence climate change is a priority,   A concern for those of you that reproduced. 

He’s a familiar face and his name is easy to spell.   What else good can you say about him?   

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/12/19/biden_yes_we_must_be_willing_to_sacrifice_oil_and_gas_jobs_to_transition_to_a_green_economy.html

 

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3 hours ago, Mid said:

still running 27MHz ?

Oz moved to UHF eon's ago .

It's interesting that the design of CB radios has not changed in 30 years. They still look exactly the same as the one I threw away over a decade ago.

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On 1/11/2020 at 2:29 PM, Jules said:

Some possibilities:

  • Joe Biden/Corey Booker
  • Elizabeth Warren/Julián Castro
  • Bernie Sanders/Krystal Ball
  • Pete Buttigeig/Kyrsten Sinema

Next?
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and..

 

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2 hours ago, jzk said:

I sacrifice time to minimize my risk of a heart attack or diabetes.   I sacrifice money to minimize the risk of ruin due to fire.   Since I don't live in one of the write off locations (close to sea level or already subsiding, at risk for recurrent fire, etc) I could be excused for not wanting to make that sacrifice.   But I know FEMA will be using my money to help the poor people who chose to live at high risk locations.   I lack time to read your link, so I'll revert to the SA standard of just shooting off my mouth.    If your data is correct my first question would be what is included and excluded.  Like the ethanol game, that can allow any viewpoint to be argued.   If it is correct and meaningful, the next issue are the costs of not acting.   In addition to the human disruption of environmental change over a VERY LONG time horizon the political cost of being the world's scapegoat as the only large polluter that doesn't even play lip service to the problem but simply denies it will make it hard for whoever cleans up Trump's mess, and his successors for at least a generation.    No matter how poor Australia may be doing, they can always point to the US as the primary problem.   Republicans made us the poster child for the problem for decades, to maximize short term economic gains for political donors.   Boeing is a classic example of accepting the cost of a product at the time of production, or buying regulators and lying about it so the damage can snowball as the world turns against it.   They bought the FAA, put their own person in charge, and minimized wasteful regulation.   When literally the entire world banned their product the US regulators finally accepted reality.  

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21 minutes ago, Lark said:

I sacrifice time to minimize my risk of a heart attack or diabetes.   I sacrifice money to minimize the risk of ruin due to fire.   Since I don't live in one of the write off locations (close to sea level or already subsiding, at risk for recurrent fire, etc) I could be excused for not wanting to make that sacrifice.   But I know FEMA will be using my money to help the poor people who chose to live at high risk locations.   I lack time to read your link, so I'll revert to the SA standard of just shooting off my mouth.    If your data is correct my first question would be what is included and excluded.  Like the ethanol game, that can allow any viewpoint to be argued.   If it is correct and meaningful, the next issue are the costs of not acting.   In addition to the human disruption of environmental change over a VERY LONG time horizon the political cost of being the world's scapegoat as the only large polluter that doesn't even play lip service to the problem but simply denies it will make it hard for whoever cleans up Trump's mess, and his successors for at least a generation.    No matter how poor Australia may be doing, they can always point to the US as the primary problem.   Republicans made us the poster child for the problem for decades, to maximize short term economic gains for political donors.   Boeing is a classic example of accepting the cost of a product at the time of production, or buying regulators and lying about it so the damage can snowball as the world turns against it.   They bought the FAA, put their own person in charge, and minimized wasteful regulation.   When literally the entire world banned their product the US regulators finally accepted reality.  

Joe Biden said he would be willing to sacrifice hundreds of thousands of blue collar jobs to transition to a "green" economy.  That pretty much takes him out of the race.  Warren also spoke of her plan to make tens of thousands of people homeless by requiring all housing built to be "carbon neutral."

Meanwhile, there is no actual measured evidence that human caused climate change is a problem for humanity.  Measured data shows that the Earth is greener than 30 years ago.

Sane people are not going to allow climate clowns to wreck our civilization.  

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Rocky and Bullwinkle

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1 hour ago, BravoBravo said:

and..

 

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ALL voters/ALL politicians 

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On 1/13/2020 at 12:50 AM, Keith said:

These two are looking for a new start 
 

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4 hours ago, Ishmael said:

It's interesting that the design of CB radios has not changed in 30 years. They still look exactly the same as the one I threw away over a decade ago.

ISH! :o

You were a rubber duck in this millennium?

I'm so disillusioned.

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2 hours ago, jzk said:

Sane people are not going to allow climate clowns to wreck our civilization.  

you have absolutely no idea how true that is .

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5 hours ago, SloopJonB said:

ISH! :o

You were a rubber duck in this millennium?

I'm so disillusioned.

It came with the boat. It was gone before the boat left the sales dock.

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Rudy/Graham. That is my dream team. They could knock Trump and Pence outta DC. Rudy beats Trump at all the qualities MAGA voters love. Lindsey has the annointed by God quality of Pence. 

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It's too bad that Lucy and Ethel can't run.....

 

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34 minutes ago, Mrleft8 said:

It's too bad that Lucy and Ethel can't run.....

 

Hell, I would take the Three Stooges over this bunch.

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12 hours ago, Ishmael said:

Hell, I would take the Three Stooges over this bunch.

That's who we have... Larry Trump, Moe Barr, and Curly Pence (And Curly Joe Guilliani, and Shemp Nunes)

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15 hours ago, Ishmael said:

Hell, I would take the Three Stooges over this bunch.

Trump/Pence 2020 policy

 

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Bloomberg has said he is willing to spend $2 billion to defeat Trump.  Here is one place where he can spread around a few bucks.

“Trump says reforming Social Security and Medicare is 'the easiest of all things' as he appears open to cutting entitlement spending“

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-says-reforming-social-security-190352318.html

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1 hour ago, jerseyguy said:

Bloomberg has said he is willing to spend $2 billion to defeat Trump.  Here is one place where he can spread around a few bucks.

“Trump says reforming Social Security and Medicare is 'the easiest of all things' as he appears open to cutting entitlement spending“

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-says-reforming-social-security-190352318.html

If Trump makes noises about touching Social Security or Medicare leading up to the election, he will be soundly trounced.  The Gray Panthers take no prisoners and they vote.  

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4 minutes ago, Cal20sailor said:

If Trump makes noises about touching Social Security or Medicare leading up to the election, he will be soundly trounced.  The Gray Panthers take no prisoners and they vote.  

Yes we do.

Never stand between a senior citizen and his/her SS and Medicare.  We will run you over with our walkers and beat you with our canes.

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Trump's hoping all the old people and cripples will die before November.

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3 minutes ago, Mrleft8 said:

Trump's hoping all the old people and cripples will die before November.

No he's not. He has those votes. 

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9 minutes ago, Movable Ballast said:

No he's not. He has those votes. 

No, he really doesn't. What he has is 30-50 year old fat bastards, and their obese wives, who depend on SSDI but aren't smart enough to understand that cuts in medicare will affect them.

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2 hours ago, Movable Ballast said:

No he's not. He has those votes. 

You get dumber by the day.

 

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2 hours ago, Movable Ballast said:
2 hours ago, Mrleft8 said:

Trump's hoping all the old people and cripples will die before November.

No he's not. He has those votes. 

 good example of how people will vote to cut their own throats if you sell it to them using their own prejudices.

My community runs heavily to northern and big-city retirees, and equally heavily to loyal pre-Trump Republicans. They are appalled by him but none of them would EVER vote for ANY Democrat. If Trump really really disgusts them, like two or at most three days before the election, they might not vote. He can do anything he wants, crash the economy, including draft all their kids/grandkids and get them all killed in a war, lose that war, maybe get Chicago & Philly & LA nuked, and they'd have forgotten about it in a week.

- DSK

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1 hour ago, jzk said:

 

It's actually worse than that, Warren would force him to contribute to the cost of forgiving other peoples debt.

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10 minutes ago, Dog said:

It's actually worse than that, Warren would force him to contribute to the cost of forgiving other peoples debt.

:lol: Fucking beautiful to have you And jerkz outraged over debt :lol:

two old assholes ladling debt on future generations so they can have their tax cuts now. Fuck you, clowns.

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1 hour ago, Mismoyled Jiblet. said:

:lol: Fucking beautiful to have you And jerkz outraged over debt :lol:

two old assholes ladling debt on future generations so they can have their tax cuts now. Fuck you, clowns.

This is why you lose so often.

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