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6 hours ago, sosoomii said:

That’s hilarious - European and Australian Lasers being used to promote North American ILCAs :wacko:

My guess is they are European and Australia sailors, sailing Australian-made boats while participating in a charter event in North America.

Bad photo pick, but nevertheless there are 200 PSA boats now in North America. Likely the message they are looking to deliver. 

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1 hour ago, Bill5 said:

My guess is they are European and Australia sailors, sailing Australian-made boats while participating in a charter event in North America.

Bad photo pick, but nevertheless there are 200 PSA boats now in North America. Likely the message they are looking to deliver. 

I did a Google search to find events at which those five sail numbers were listed in the results,  and the only one Google could find was the 2020 Australian Laser Nationals at Sandringham YC in January of last year. http://sailingresults.net/sa/results/overall.aspx?ID=80313.1 

Not ILCAs.
Not in North America.
Not sold since September last year.

Totally misleading photo to show with this claim.

 

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Well it hasn’t misled you. But the fact remains they have sold a couple hundred boats in NA. But good sleuthing!

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Perhaps it is an ad with some deep subliminal messaging:

- demonstrating the international presence of the boat

- cleverly showing it is replacing the old Laser

Those sneaky bastards.

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On 10/29/2020 at 2:11 PM, tillerman said:

Why is PSA using a photo of Lasers to brag about sales of ILCAs?

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...is it last September? Otherwise this seems like BS, how many dealers do they have in NA? 5? And they are all buying 2 full containers? 3 of those dealers in the north going into their slow season...

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Lots of event boats

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An interview with Charlie Buckingham on his Laser campaign for the Tokyo 2021 Olympics

by David Schmidt 15 Dec 08:00 PSTDecember 15, 2020

https://www.sail-world.com/news/233321/Charlie-Buckingham-on-his-Tokyo-2021-preparations?source=twitter&fbclid=IwAR3k0vYr5nHwU3ApqvBPcVtMnew8ZUJeMlssLRcPVwJEl-TpfxyPnNOqd1Y

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On 12/22/2020 at 7:54 AM, tillerman said:

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Hi Steve.

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On 12/22/2020 at 7:54 AM, tillerman said:

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Every boatbuilder needs a Steve,

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Its not going to be a Steve anymore.  It will be a Zhang now.

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48 minutes ago, Wess said:

Its not going to be a Steve anymore.  It will be a Zhang now.

Maybe for ZIM

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6 hours ago, Wess said:

Its not going to be a Steve anymore.  It will be a Zhang now.

I would say that the above is a great attempt to gaslight this conversation in a specific direction, however, while an attempt, it isn't that great.

Steve works for PSA in Australia. 

Has been for years.

Steve won't be replaced by 'Zhang'. Steve will be working for PSA for the foreseeable future - he shows no sign of leaving or changing his name.

There are two new ILCA builders currently in the pipeline, Zou Inter Marine in China, and Element Six Composites in Thailand - which along with PSJ will mean there will be three builders in Asia in the near future.

There are no North American builders in the pipeline, so there will continue to be imported boats.

(If the intention of Wess was to continue promoting himself as a person intolerant of Chinese/Asians, then job well done! No reflection of what is actually happening - three builders in Asia? Absolutely positive!)

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It could be Zhang in any of the manufacturing facilities. Or Pedro, Jakob, Mario, Elizabeth, Vlad, Aazil, Sven, Mimi ... 

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9 hours ago, Bill5 said:

It could be Zhang in any of the manufacturing facilities. Or Pedro, Jakob, Mario, Elizabeth, Vlad, Aazil, Sven, Mimi ... 

I'm sorry but you are wrong. Every ILCA builder needs a Steve. You can't make quality ILCAs without a Steve. The need for a Steve is so important it is mandated in the class's sacred text - The Holy Construction Manual.

The good news is that there are 1,302,4655 people named Steven in the USA, and 902,598 people named Stephen. All of them are usually called Steve. That makes 2,205,063 Steves. Steves are everywhere. Statistically everybody in the country must know at leas 6.5 Steves. My best friend at high school was a Steve, and my room-mate in college was a Steve. I have a cousin called Steve. When I lived in New Jersey there were 3 Steves at where I worked and a Steve at my sailing club. Four of my Facebook friends are Steves. My great great great grandfather was a Steve. My neighbor is a Steve. My son's neighbor is a Steve. Steves are everywhere.

There is absolutely no excuse why anyone who wanted to build ILCAs in the US couldn't find a Steve to work in their factory. What is wrong with you people?

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I have to say going forward it could be a problem finding a Steve in the uk. I know loads of Steve’s but none of them are under 40 :D

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1 hour ago, Xeon said:

I have to say going forward it could be a problem finding a Steve in the uk. I know loads of Steve’s but none of them are under 40 :D

You are correct. Steven is the 200th most popular name for baby boys in the USA now.

But the good news is that the Steve you need in your ILCA boat building business is over 40. It takes 20 years of experience building Lasers to become a fully qualified Steve.

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Well damn that is bad news for folks who buy a new ILCA from Zhang!  But at least ILCA gets their money either way.  :P

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39 minutes ago, Wess said:

 But at least ILCA gets their money either way.  :P

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28 minutes ago, Bill5 said:

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I can post without fear of Wess responding. :D 

Unless someone quotes me (please don't).

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Rhode Island based Zim Sailing are anticipating the arrival of their first ILCAs "shortly." 

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2 hours ago, tillerman said:

Rhode Island based Zim Sailing are anticipating the arrival of their first ILCAs "shortly." 

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The ACC's at CYC-NC in May are gonna be great!  Assuming COVID doesn't wipe it out it's gonna be awesome to see class builder/dealer support at the events again!

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We opened our FB season this past Sunday with 11 boats out.  To many this might not seem like much, but when I started this 4 years ago I was the only boat to show on the first Sunday.  It was freezing and blowing 20 but I went out anyway hoping word would get out that there was a new nutbag laser sailor in town.... This past Sunday we had champagne conditions.  56, sunny, steady breeze 8-10.  

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3 hours ago, tillerman said:

Rhode Island based Zim Sailing are anticipating the arrival of their first ILCAs "shortly." 

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They distributing somebody else's boats or building ILCAs in China?  Shortly, LOL.  Better than soon I suspect.

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1 hour ago, RobbieB said:

We opened our FB season this past Sunday with 11 boats out.  To many this might not seem like much, but when I started this 4 years ago I was the only boat to show on the first Sunday.  It was freezing and blowing 20 but I went out anyway hoping word would get out that there was a new nutbag laser sailor in town.... This past Sunday we had champagne conditions.  56, sunny, steady breeze 8-10.  

Never underestimate the willingness of people to follow a nutbag!

PS. Well done!

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18 minutes ago, Wess said:

They distributing somebody else's boats or building ILCAs in China?  Shortly, LOL.  Better than soon I suspect.

Back from Parler I see

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No, Gab and Mewe.  Parler is dark don't ya know.  But glad you found your way back from CNN and into reality.  More importantly have you been sailing?

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Hey Clean I forgot to ask. Are you still against the vaccine and spouting conspiracy theories about its approval under a Trump administration? Cause you know these nice folks would like to have their Mid Winter regatta in the great state of FL in the middle of the pandemic exploding yet again and vaccines might be a good thing you think...

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18 hours ago, Wess said:

They distributing somebody else's boats or building ILCAs in China?  Shortly, LOL.  Better than soon I suspect.

Both. As I understand it.  I'll know for sure in March when we see what builder brand of NEW boats start showing up.

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22 hours ago, torrid said:

Great grandmasters only, those old enough to get the vaccine.

I am old enough but the dumbasses running the Texas Distribution system just cut off supplies to the health care company I use. 
they are Austin’s largest medical group and so far have given more shots in this area than the combined next three entities... 

WTF... How can these people in charge be so damned  incompetent???

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