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20-25' Sport boat Suggestions

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Alright hive mind I have another of those which boats should I buy threads.  I want a fast pocket rocket that fits on a trailer.  The wife needs something that is not a dinghy with at least some cockpit, which rules out a Viper 640 or VX.

Requirements

  • Planing sportsboat with an asymmetrical
  • Small outboard set up
  • Must be able to live in the water and be launched on a 4 ton crane
  • Cockpit that can fit 2-4 people
  • Price range $10-$10k

Nice to haves

  • No backstay so I can make a square top mainsail
  • Lifting keel

I don't mind a bit of a project and will can easily replace/turbo sails.  The boat that we have both agreed on is a Rocket 22 but they're hard to find.  The Ultimate 20 also ticks a lot of the boxes as well.  What am I missing?

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Tried to PM you re a potentially available Rocket 22.  Can you enable messages?  

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12 minutes ago, Skid51 said:

Tried to PM you re a potentially available Rocket 22.  Can you enable messages?  

Cleared it out and sent you a PM

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14 minutes ago, fastyacht said:

Kinda sounds Melges 24 ish...

Cool factor: go for a 110.

M24 is in consideration, 110 is not :lol:.  I've done a few 110 regattas, really fun boats but my wife would kill me!

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2 hours ago, Skid51 said:

Tried to PM you re a potentially available Rocket 22.  Can you enable messages?  

Andy, call Dorin Candea; he may still have a Rockett 22.

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1 hour ago, marcus brutus said:

Andy, call Dorin Candea; he may still have a Rockett 22.

It got sold and lives in Wisconsin now.  

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7 hours ago, monsters inc said:

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I honestly do not know much about these other than they're home built.  Do look like fun though, whats the scoop?

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Ultimate 20 checks the boxes for me too, but hard to find for less that $10k. I am looking for something like this for pleasure (not racing) on a lake so I am seriously considering a Holder 20. I would prefer an Ultimate 20, but for a second lake use boat the cost is a bit high. 

Since a SC27 has been mentioned I would be remiss not so suggest a Moore 24, but like the U20, hard to find for less than $10k.

Wabbits are awesome, but almost never come up for sale used. I can't remember the last time I saw one for sale.

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elliott 770 except not for $10k unless it's wrecked.

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36 minutes ago, msvphoto said:

so I am seriously considering a Holder 20

looks like a sport boat, performance not so much. Can sink if original. not particularly comfortable for two overnight. There are better choices out there I think.

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19 hours ago, ryley said:

looks like a sport boat, performance not so much. Can sink if original. not particularly comfortable for two overnight. There are better choices out there I think.

I do believe there's a modified Holder 20x in San Diego available.  Very cool boat. 

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Sorry typo in the OP, supposed to be $10-15k which should open it up a bit

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On 3/5/2020 at 1:29 PM, Bad Andy said:

Alright hive mind I have another of those which boats should I buy threads.  I want a fast pocket rocket that fits on a trailer.  The wife needs something that is not a dinghy with at least some cockpit, which rules out a Viper 640 or VX.

Requirements

Must be able to live in the water and be launched on a 4 ton crane

What am I missing?

Which Chicago harbor(s) have a "4 ton crane" (8,000 lbs) safe working load ?

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On 3/6/2020 at 5:15 PM, ryley said:
On 3/6/2020 at 4:29 PM, msvphoto said:

so I am seriously considering a Holder 20

looks like a sport boat, performance not so much. Can sink if original. not particularly comfortable for two overnight. There are better choices out there I think.

The Holder 20 is a pretty cool boat, definitely a budget favorite. It's really a ballasted dinghy. The cabin is tiny and the bulb keel makes it a little more forgiving but it's not really self-righting. And it's low and wet (of course most true sportboats are not exactly a dry ride).

If you don't want to spend much, and trailering is important, it's a pretty good choice

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A Flying Tiger 7.5 would fit your needs perfectly.  Faster than everything mentioned thus far except the Melges 24 and they are not that far apart.  Plenty of room for 4-6. Very stable and easily trailered.  There are only 5 of them in the US but there is one for sale in San Diego and could likely be had for the upper limit of your price point.  My wife and I double handed ours easily and we are well north of 60.

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6 hours ago, Stinger1 said:

A Flying Tiger 7.5 would fit your needs perfectly.  Faster than everything mentioned thus far except the Melges 24 and they are not that far apart.

So, slower than a Thompson 7 then.

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4 hours ago, (p)Irate said:

So, slower than a Thompson 7 then.

Most things that small are!

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Granted, but and how many of those can the OP find in the US?  Likely less than the five FT 7.5s that are here.

 

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