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1 hour ago, Shortforbob said:

Ahh here we go..too slow for who? 

Ok..when and what should Dan A have done differently SINCE the last outbreak?

What would you have done and when if you'd somehow become Premier in July?

What would your plan have been?

Meli, why ask about after July.  Ask yourself what should have happened in April/May, that is what caused the shit-fight.  On reading the transcripts it appears (but not proved) it was the Police union that insisted on private security because they didn't want to be seen 'baby-sitting' (their words) and they didn't want ADF brought in because it would look like the ADF would have been doing their job.  Dan was lead by the unions.

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7 minutes ago, trt131 said:

Meli, why ask about after July.  Ask yourself what should have happened in April/May, that is what caused the shit-fight.  On reading the transcripts it appears (but not proved) it was the Police union that insisted on private security because they didn't want to be seen 'baby-sitting' (their words) and they didn't want ADF brought in because it would look like the ADF would have been doing their job.  Dan was lead by the unions.

You also have to wonder about the dedication of the inquiry's investigators when it's the media that seems to find so much of the damning evidence. 

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4 hours ago, Shortforbob said:

I'm not interested in The Ruby Princess, or this premier V that Premier.

"Not interested" in Ruby Princess because one was in mid March when people knew fuck all and the other in July 4 months later when people knew a lot except the Victorian Premier who consults with no-one and ignores the experiences of others. 

Not interested" in "this premier V that Premier" because other premiers show the Victorian premier up to be be a dangerous incompetent fuck who has been a lying fuck ever since.

 

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6 hours ago, Rambler said:

The answer is simple.

Copy NSW.

An economy functioning fairly normally, no lockdowns, minimal cases, very few deaths, no second breakout.

And all because it has a sensible Government, that quickly learns from any mistakes (because I know you won't be able to resist mentioning the Ruby Princess) and knows how to do CTT properly.

I'd copy Perth.

Play it safe, it's a couple extra weeks of no restrictions, then absolutely no restrictions required, haven't had any since April. Economy is the only one improving! We're up 1.5% this year! While NSW is down 0.75% this year and Vic is down 1.5% this year. End year, that's going to look more like +2% for WA, -1% for NSW and -4% for Vic.

Also, the reason you guys have had outbreaks for the last few months, is because the government didn't learn from the Ruby Princess, and let a plane from Melbourne land and disembark while Melbourne were at their early-peak spread in July. 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-08/nsw-coronavirus-breach-as-passengers-from-melbourne-not-screened/12433286

That plane landing, and not being checked is due to the incompetence of the NSW government. They were slack and lazy, and did not put in the right protocols.

I mean how'd they make the same exact mistake twice? Letting large persons transporters land in their state and disembark without screening during a pandemic.

Also congrats Victoria.

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Not as much NSW...

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14 hours ago, Shortforbob said:

You're just evading the question. We've discussed the issues in Victoria ad nauseum 

Really others "evading" and issues "discussed ad nauseum".

Melie you can't even fucking mouth any of the four words Contact, Trace, Test and Isolate.

To do so puts "the spotlight on Victorias CTT abject failure and questions about its capacity even today."

17 hours ago, Shortforbob said:

so what's the plan for the vulnerable Jack?

16 hours ago, jack_sparrow said:

Start with a robust and proven plan for everyone. It's called CTT which for some unknown reason you refuse to entertain.

Actually the reason is known. To entertain it puts the spotlight on Victorias CTT abject failure and questions about its capacity even today. 

 

So Melie you don't believe me that you "evade" CTT like the plague?

Go to Search function and type in the word 'contact' posted by @Shortforbob and hit Search Content button.

This pops up

NOT ONE mention in this thread since it's inception 7 months ago and sparsely mentioned elsewhere on the other numerous SA threads you post by the bucketful.

However there is this gem you posted in a thread titled; "Do Lockdowns Work?"

Melie; "... with massive testing and contact tracing, It's working. https://www.vic.gov.au/coronavirus-covid-19-restrictions-roadmaps

Then repeat search using the word 'trace'

This pops up.

Literally the same result NOTHING. 

However except another gem you posted in a thread titled; "Restarting America Means People Will Die. So When Should We Do It?"

Melie; "...You have to be able to trace infections too...."  

So Melie you are a fucking fraud. 

So Melie you put political ideology in 'front of' the health and wellbeing of your fellow Australians.

So Melie you are dangerous as fuck and 'with deliberate intent.'

So Melie jamb that 'truth' up your arse sideways and 'own it'.....

....which pounds to peanuts you won't and your usual weasel words will now come agushing.

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1 hour ago, darth reapius said:

...Also, the reason you guys have had outbreaks for the last few months, is because the government didn't learn from the Ruby Princess, and let a plane from Melbourne land and disembark while Melbourne were at their early-peak spread in July. 

 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-08/nsw-coronavirus-breach-as-passengers-from-melbourne-not-screened/12433286

That plane landing, and not being checked is due to the incompetence of the NSW government. They were slack and lazy, and did not put in the right protocols.

I mean how'd they make the same exact mistake twice? Letting large persons transporters land in their state and disembark without screening during a pandemic.

You really love posting bullshit attempting to do a hatchet job on NSW.

- Ruby Princess was an international border entry in mid March with dual entry responsibility between the Feds and States where Inquiry showed that fuckup responsibility was jointly shared.

- That flight Melbourne to Sydney was not at the height of new cases in Victoria. 

- Australia wide on 7 July 148 new cases, 134 of which were in Victoria. The Australian death toll remained at 106 that day.

- That flight Melbourne to Sydney was one of last to land on the evening of 7 July the day BEFORE the NSW/Victoria border was closed on 8 July and all future arrivals by land, sea or air would have to quarantine.

- That flight Melbourne to Sydney the AIRLINE breached protocols NOT the state by allowing all 137 passengers to leave the gate area BEFORE health teams had arrived from another flight to conduct the screening.

That flight Melbourne to Sydney on 7 July had no cases on board and ALL were screened , majority at the AIRPORT, except one who refused to be screened.

- Similiar inconsequential virus response failure instances have occured in other states.

- The labour state of Queensland DID NOT follow NSW and close its border to Victoria until 10 July or 2 days later.

- That flight Melbourne to Sydney on 7 July was 3 days before National Cabinet met on 10 July and issued this joint States/Feds media release via the PM. This flight did NOT rate a mention.

And then this below....Victoria is locked up NSW isnt so comparison rediculous. There are 800 reasons and a fucked economy Australia wide courtesy largely of Victoria that makes it easy to label this shit above and below as partisan political propoganda or you are clueless to the facts.

1 hour ago, darth reapius said:

Also congrats Victoria.

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1 hour ago, darth reapius said:

I'd copy Perth.

Play it safe, it's a couple extra weeks of no restrictions, then absolutely no restrictions required, haven't had any since April. Economy is the only one improving! We're up 1.5% this year! While NSW is down 0.75% this year and Vic is down 1.5% this year. End year, that's going to look more like +2% for WA, -1% for NSW and -4% for Vic.

Also, the reason you guys have had outbreaks for the last few months, is because the government didn't learn from the Ruby Princess, and let a plane from Melbourne land and disembark while Melbourne were at their early-peak spread in July. 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-08/nsw-coronavirus-breach-as-passengers-from-melbourne-not-screened/12433286

That plane landing, and not being checked is due to the incompetence of the NSW government. They were slack and lazy, and did not put in the right protocols.

I mean how'd they make the same exact mistake twice? Letting large persons transporters land in their state and disembark without screening during a pandemic.

Also congrats Victoria.

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Not as much NSW...

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This.

Victoria is now in a much stronger position than NSW.

Thanks Dan!

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^^^^^^^ this

58 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:

Victoria is locked up NSW isnt so comparison rediculous. There are 800 reasons and a fucked economy Australia wide courtesy largely of Victoria that makes it easy to label this shit above and below as partisan political propoganda or you are clueless to the facts.

 

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48 minutes ago, Ease the sheet. said:

This.

Victoria is now in a much stronger position than NSW.

Thanks Dan!

Victoria is financially destroyed, is bleeding hundreds of millions a week, has widespread mental health issues, has its population locked up like prisoners, killed hundreds and has destroyed nearly all small business and in contrast NSW has completely minimized the effect of COVID. Thanks Dan.

In a state like Victoria, elimination is a disastrous target as Dan showed once before.

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I have just watched Andrews presser in full. 

Very impressive. Andrews clear, concise and digestible messaging, one of the best I've seen worldwide attempting to get community buy-in going forward. Community buy-in is the primary pillar.

Having said that the absence of audio visual aids is a bit perplexing, however if not used well, probably better without.

Time and willingness to 'take' questions (not to be confused with answers) first class.

The unimpressive. No epidemiology thresholds identified for specific Mitigation/Suppression responses such as reproduction rates region by region. The inference is they DON'T know. See comments on CTT below and AV aids above.

Not an ounce of acknowledgement the Govt fucked up BUT at the same time putting responsibility on the community. That cloud of denial erodes community buy-in.

The appalling. As soon as Andrews and glove puppet interrogated by the media on CTT,  the bullshit starts flowing.

For instance no mention on persons tested only tests. Claimed that 4,000 Nth suburbs tests and zero new cases is a measure that CTT is working. In fact it is the opposite. 98% < 48 hours turnaround time from contact to test result, with most around 30 hours Andrews said Australian standard 

He is wrong, that is in fact a global platinum standard.

However REFUSES to identify contact sources and quantum involving tracing not just testing. That 98% then becomes a TOTALLY irrelevant measure. The inference is CTT capacity is shit.

Covid Normal Preparation. I would be very fearfull until there is transparency on epidemiology thresholds and Victoria's CTT capacity. That said other states also have some transparency shortcomings.

Pretty emotional day for Victoria it showed and thank god they are nearly there.

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29 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:

You really love posting bullshit attempting to do a hatchet job on NSW.

Because they clearly are the worst and most corrupt government in Australia. I mean fuck, have you not seen your leader has been in and out of ICAC meeting because of her secret relationship with a minister which she has been lying about, her involvement with his corruption and his bringing people into her office to sort out land deals. Did your propaganda report on the fact her office bought property from Liz Waterhouse for WAY above the actual value? Like 10 times  the value! Not to mention the other millions of dollars going missing, her office shredding documents. And her involvement in the governments purchase of $3 million dollars of property for the airport for $29 million dollars!

$29.8 million purchase of 12.3 hectares in July 2018 was "22 times higher" per hectare than the NSW government for its portion of the Leppington Triangle, the ANAO said.

Hell, did you see the footage from an ICAC hearing where the ICAC rep asks Gladys "Are you familiar with the dealings between McGuire and Waterhouse in relation to land deals" and she replies with "No, I have no involvement with them, and no nothing about this", then the ICAC plays a tapped phone call between Gladys and McGuire, and they are literally discussing the land deal, and he says "I'll being Waterhouse into your office" and she replies with something along the lines of "Great".

- Ruby Princess was an international border entry in mid March with dual entry responsibility between the Feds and States where Inquiry showed that fuckup responsibility was jointly shared. - So you admit this was also the State's fault

- That flight Melbourne to Sydney was not at the height of new cases in Victoria. - As per your line below, it was days before the peak of the rise in cases, with an incubation period of up to 14 days.

- Australia wide on 7 July 148 new cases, 134 of which were in Victoria. The Australian death toll remained at 106 that day.  - Again, proving me right here mate. An absurd number of cases, which represents spread, 2 weeks later (remember 14 days for incubation) the cases get up over 500 per day. The numbers in this kind of this always lag behind the incubation period. It was idiotic to not close the border when the cases were 20+ per day. Other states did this or delayed their opening, or remain closed, and guess what, they remained unaffected.

- That flight Melbourne to Sydney was one of last to land on the evening of 7 July the day BEFORE the NSW/Victoria border was closed on 8 July and all future arrivals by land, sea or air would have to quarantine. - Because the fucking NSW government was so bad at their job, they should have closed the border WEEKS earlier! Literally another thing proving me right the NSW gov have done everything so wrong.

- That flight Melbourne to Sydney the AIRLINE breached protocols NOT the state by allowing all 137 passengers to leave the gate area BEFORE health teams had arrived from another flight to conduct the screening. - Again, poor management and overseeing of transport hubs by the government officials, too busy writing fake laws to protect koala's which they didn't pass because they were more worried about their popularity than actually doing the right thing?

That flight Melbourne to Sydney on 7 July had no cases on board and ALL were screened , majority at the AIRPORT, except one who refused to be screened. - Again, dude, you are referencing not a true news outlet, but a propaganda outlet. This is private "news" media outlet owned by Rupert Murdoch, who with these articles, which note how no repercussions actually happened to the airlines, because this is all bull-shit. This is propaganda made to hide the state governments incompetence you are referencing. Like fuck me, it's hilarious, YOU have commented about how people are seeing propaganda, but YOU are referencing the biggest propaganda model in Australia.

From 10 December 2018 Nine and Fairfax Media merged into one business known as Nine. Nine Entertainment Co. owns The Sydney Morning Herald.

Rupert Murdoch, who supports the Liberal Parties, owns over two thirds of ALL of Australia's media. So before you go calling out people reading propaganda, go back and look at the fact all your references are from the biggest propaganda system in the nation.

- Similiar inconsequential virus response failure instances have occured in other states.

Bahahahahahahahaha See numbers below. 2 states fucked this up. NSW fucked up letting massive numbers of cases into the country MONTHS after it was known about, and NSW and Victoria let it spread to absurd numbers, and 6 months after the other states had their shit sorted they are still battling.

- The labour state of Queensland DID NOT follow NSW and close its border to Victoria until 10 July or 2 days later.

I didn't say they did great, they are the 3rd worst state. But guess what, their numbers are still almost 1/10th of NSW's in transmission.

- That flight Melbourne to Sydney on 7 July was 3 days before National Cabinet met on 10 July and issued this joint States/Feds media release via the PM. This flight did NOT rate a mention.

This clearly shows that NSW gov gets favour from the LNP over Labor states like WA, Vic and QLD. See how they impart a lower cap for arrivals on a state despite them having a larger population?

And then this below....Victoria is locked up NSW isnt so comparison rediculous. There are 800 reasons and a fucked economy Australia wide courtesy largely of Victoria that makes it easy to label this shit above and below as partisan political propoganda or you are clueless to the facts.

This is clearly mostly NSW's fault, quit reading your propaganda, it's embarrassing to see someone who's sucking at the tit of Murdoch and the Liberal media talk shit about propaganda.

Covid Cases by Local Transmission, by State.

Vic - 19358

NSW - 1942

QLD - 300

WA - 94

SA - 152

Tas - 149

NT - 6

ACT - 29

Covid Cases by International travel.

NSW - 2440

Vic - 985

QLD - 867

WA - 666

SA - 339

Tas - 81

NT - 85

ACT - 27

When you break this down futher, most of these are in hotel quarantine, the total let in by the NSW government from the Ruby Princess (342) is more than the entirety of Australia let in before every state put everyone in hotel quarantine.

So, NSW fucked all of Australia by letting so much Covid in.

And, clearly 2 states did a completely shit-house job of managing the spread of Covid (NSW and Vic for those who did well). While the rest did phenomenally well.

Up to today's stats, there is still at least 1 state with community spread. That is NSW.

Which means, CLEARLY, 2 STATES HAVE DONE A WHOLE HARDHEARTEDLY SHIT-HOUSE JOB.

Now everyone is jumping down the Vic governments back about how bad they have done. But no one is hating on NSW gov. This is because clearly y'all are sucking off Murdoch's pro-Liberal media (propaganda) and are missing the actual facts.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-23/coronavirus-across-australia-if-ruby-princess-never-docked/12172314

MORE THAN 10% OF THE CASES OF COVID ARE FROM THE RUBY PRINCESS AND NSW's GOVERNMENTS INCOMPETENCE.

Hell, at the same time a Cruise Ship the Artania rocked up in Perth, and the WA government literally told them to get fucked.

If WA can do so well, then NSW can to, but no, their terrible leadership cause all these issues. They let people in, they didn't close businesses, they didn't impose restrictions earl enough. Because of this, NSW had 20 times the cases as WA, 

"As of Wednesday, about one in every 10 cases of coronavirus in Australia could be linked to the Ruby Princess."

Your economies, that is, NSW and Victoria, who are doing the worst, are the fault of the NSW and Victorian governments. Because guess what, everyone else isn't doing badly, most other states are close to no change in economy, whilst WA has improved noticeably.

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:pen::pen::pen:

It's like listening to 3 old men harping on about who left the bungs out of the dinghy on that fishing trip in 1986

Move on.

I think all Victorians need a treat tonight. Well done all of us

 

 

Except let it rip fuckwits

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:D

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2 hours ago, jack_sparrow said:

You really love posting bullshit attempting to do a hatchet job on NSW.

1 hour ago, darth reapius said:

Because they clearly are the worst and most corrupt government in Australia. I mean fuck, have you not seen your leader has been in and out of ICAC meeting because of her secret relationship with a minister..

 

Gladys not my Premier. 

As she been banging a Minister?? What's his/her name?

Do you write political propogada for a living?

If so you are not very fucking good at it. Just three snap shots of your gross ineptitude.

".. they should have closed the border WEEKS earlier!"  

- NSW didn't close its border with NSW. Victoria didn't close its border with NSW. 

- If NSW was weeks late closing its border with NSW and Victoria likewise, then Qld and rest of Australia were ALSO weeks late. You could fly from Victoria to Qld for 3 days when no NSW flights. 

Funny how you seem to be the odd man out. 

2 hours ago, jack_sparrow said:

-That flight Melbourne to Sydney was one of last to land on the evening of 7 July the day BEFORE the NSW/Victoria border was closed on 8 July and all future arrivals by land, sea or air would have to quarantine.

- The labour state of Queensland DID NOT follow NSW and close its border to Victoria until 10 July or 2 days later.

1 hour ago, darth reapius said:

Because the fucking NSW government was so bad at their job, they should have closed the border WEEKS earlier! Literally another thing proving me right the NSW gov have done everything so wrong.

 

 

And koalas??? Fuck me.

2 hours ago, jack_sparrow said:

That flight Melbourne to Sydney the AIRLINE breached protocols NOT the state by allowing all 137 passengers to leave the gate area BEFORE health teams had arrived from another flight to conduct the screening.

1 hour ago, darth reapius said:

Again, poor management and overseeing of transport hubs by the government officials, too busy writing fake laws to protect koala's which they didn't pass because they were more worried about their popularity than actually doing the right thing?

 

And the best until last.

"Again, dude, you are referencing not a true  news outlet, but a propaganda outlet. This is private "news" media outlet owned by Rupert Murdoch.. Like fuck me, it's hilarious, YOU have commented about how people are seeing propaganda, but YOU are  referencing the biggest propaganda model in Australia"

The reference is the Sydney Morning Herald.

News Corp/Rupert Murdoch don't own the Sydney Morning Herald and Fairfax Press and never has.

In fact the Fairfax press under old and new ownership are left leaning and support the Andrews Govt, less so Gladys.

2 hours ago, jack_sparrow said:

 

2 hours ago, jack_sparrow said:

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1 hour ago, darth reapius said:

Again, dude, you are referencing not a true news outlet, but a propaganda outlet. This is private "news" media outlet owned by Rupert Murdoch, who with these articles, which note how no repercussions actually happened to the airlines, because this is all bull-shit. This is propaganda made to hide the state governments incompetence you are referencing. Like fuck me, it's hilarious, YOU have commented about how people are seeing propaganda, but YOU are referencing the biggest propaganda model in Australia.

From 10 December 2018 Nine and Fairfax Media merged into one business known as Nine. Nine Entertainment Co. owns The Sydney Morning Herald.

Rupert Murdoch, who supports the Liberal Parties, owns over two thirds of ALL of Australia's media. So before you go calling out people reading propaganda, go back and look at the fact all your references are from the biggest propaganda system in the nation.

 

Yes it is hilarious.

You sound as though you don't like koalas, so which farm animal wrote your post?

Please don't say it was a goat.:lol:

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3 hours ago, jack_sparrow said:
18 hours ago, Shortforbob said:

You're just evading the question. We've discussed the issues in Victoria ad nauseum 

Really others "evading" and issues "discussed ad nauseum".

Melie you can't even fucking mouth any of the four words Contact, Trace, Test and Isolate.

To do so puts "the spotlight on Victorias CTT abject failure and questions about its capacity even today."

21 hours ago, Shortforbob said:

so what's the plan for the vulnerable Jack?

20 hours ago, jack_sparrow said:

Start with a robust and proven plan for everyone. It's called CTT which for some unknown reason you refuse to entertain.

Actually the reason is known. To entertain it puts the spotlight on Victorias CTT abject failure and questions about its capacity even today. 

 

So Melie you don't believe me that you "evade" CTT like the plague?

Go to Search function and type in the word 'contact' posted by @Shortforbob and hit Search Content button.

This pops up

NOT ONE mention in this thread since it's inception 7 months ago and sparsely mentioned elsewhere on the other numerous SA threads you post by the bucketful.

However there is this gem you posted in a thread titled; "Do Lockdowns Work?"

Melie; "... with massive testing and contact tracing, It's working. https://www.vic.gov.au/coronavirus-covid-19-restrictions-roadmaps

Then repeat search using the word 'trace'

This pops up.

Literally the same result NOTHING. 

However except another gem you posted in a thread titled; "Restarting America Means People Will Die. So When Should We Do It?"

Melie; "...You have to be able to trace infections too...."  

So Melie you are a fucking fraud. 

So Melie you put political ideology in 'front of' the health and wellbeing of your fellow Australians.

So Melie you are dangerous as fuck and 'with deliberate intent.'

So Melie jamb that 'truth' up your arse sideways and 'own it'.....

....which pounds to peanuts you won't and your usual weasel words will now come agushing.

8 minutes ago, Shortforbob said:

Move on.

 

"Move on".....What a suprise. :lol:

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11 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:

"Move on".....What a suprise. :lol:

Silly old bugger .

A question. How many covid tests have you had in the last 6 months? 

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9 minutes ago, Shortforbob said:

Silly old bugger .

A question. How many covid tests have you had in the last 6 months? 

Straw and not relevant.

Being where there is a proper CTT response structure everyone incl old people, feel very safe going about their daily lives living Covid normal.

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30 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:

Gladys not my Premier. 

As she been banging a Minister?? What's his/her name? Gladys Berejiklian was secretly dating, and lied about dating Daryl Maguire.

Do you write political propogada for a living? No, clearly.

If so you are not very fucking good at it. Just three snap shots of your gross ineptitude. Good, it's not my job.

- NSW didn't close its border with NSW. Victoria didn't close its own border NSW. WHAT?

- If NSW was weeks late closing its border with NSW and Victoria likewise, then Qld and rest of Australia were ALSO weeks late. Again, who cares, nothing happened to them. I didn't wear a condom once with some mega-hoe, and didn't catch anything, and guess what, doesn't matter if you don't catch anything, so no QLD didn't fuck up. and the rest of Australia remained closed. 

 

And koalas??? Yeah, clearly you missed that the government of NSW approves of mass land clearing and it going to send Koalas extinct. Their premier's nickname is literally "Koalakiller".

And the best until last.

"Again, dude, you are referencing not a true  news outlet, but a propaganda outlet. This is private  "news" media outlet owned by Rupert Murdoch.. Like fuck me, it's hilarious, YOU have commented about how people are seeing propaganda, but YOU are  referencing the biggest propaganda model in Australia"

The reference is the Sydney Morning Herald.

News Corp/Rupert Murdoch don't own the Sydney Morning Herald and Fairfax Press and never has.

In fact the Fairfax press under old and new ownership are left leaning and support the Andrews Govt, less so Gladys.

Yes it is hilarious.

You sound as though you don't like koalas, so which farm animal wrote your post?

Please don't say it was a goat.:lol:

Most states STILL HAD THEIR BORDERS CLOSED TO VICTORIA THEN you moron. The other, QLD, isn't a neighbouring state and saw no issue yet. Clearly, judging by numbers, which you obviously cannot read, NSW fucked up, QLD did not, WA did not, NT did not, SA did not, Tasmania did not.

No, I'm pissed off the NSW government DIDN'T do anything protect Koala's, again, you moron, why else did I bring it up?

Oh my bad, I forgot the deal didn't go through for Murdoch to buy them as well.

PS.

"Nine Entertainment CEO says hosting Liberal fundraiser at studio was a mistake"

They lean right you bafoon.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/sep/04/nine-entertainment-ceo-says-hosting-liberal-fundraiser-at-studio-was-a-mistake

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41 minutes ago, darth reapius said:

Most states STILL HAD THEIR BORDERS CLOSED TO VICTORIA THEN you moron. The other, QLD, isn't a neighbouring state and saw no issue yet. 

Comprehension isn't your strong point but being wrong and calling people when right morons clearly is.

When NSW border to Victoria closed SA still allowed Victorians in with essential traveller status. And as for Qld not neighbouring.

Have you heard of the aeroplane??

1 hour ago, jack_sparrow said:

You could fly from Victoria to Qld for 3 days when no NSW flights. 

And

41 minutes ago, darth reapius said:

Oh my bad, I forgot the deal didn't go through for Murdoch to buy them as well.

"Nine Entertainment CEO says hosting Liberal fundraiser at studio was a mistake"

They lean right you bafoon.

Fairfax/SMH/Age leans left.

"Oh my bad, I forgot the deal didn't go through for Murdoch to buy them as well."

Murdoch did try and and closest got to taking over Fairfax was over 40 years ago.

You knowledge on media ownership defines bafoon. 

1 hour ago, darth reapius said:

Again, dude, you are referencing not a true news outlet, but a propaganda outlet. This is private "news" media outlet owned by Rupert Murdoch, 

1 hour ago, jack_sparrow said:

The reference is the Sydney Morning Herald.

News Corp/Rupert Murdoch don't own the Sydney Morning Herald and Fairfax Press and never has.

 

 

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1 hour ago, darth reapius said:

Covid Cases by Local Transmission, by State.

Vic - 19358

NSW - 1942

QLD - 300

WA - 94

SA - 152

Tas - 149

NT - 6

ACT - 29

Covid Cases by International travel.

NSW - 2440

Vic - 985

QLD - 867

WA - 666

SA - 339

Tas - 81

NT - 85

ACT - 27

When you break this down futher, most of these are in hotel quarantine, the total let in by the NSW government from the Ruby Princess (342) is more than the entirety of Australia let in before every state put everyone in hotel quarantine.

So, NSW fucked all of Australia by letting so much Covid in.

And, clearly 2 states did a completely shit-house job of managing the spread of Covid (NSW and Vic for those who did well). While the rest did phenomenally well.

Up to today's stats, there is still at least 1 state with community spread. That is NSW.

Which means, CLEARLY, 2 STATES HAVE DONE A WHOLE HARDHEARTEDLY SHIT-HOUSE JOB.

Now everyone is jumping down the Vic governments back about how bad they have done. But no one is hating on NSW gov. This is because clearly y'all are sucking off Murdoch's pro-Liberal media (propaganda) and are missing the actual facts.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-23/coronavirus-across-australia-if-ruby-princess-never-docked/12172314

MORE THAN 10% OF THE CASES OF COVID ARE FROM THE RUBY PRINCESS AND NSW's GOVERNMENTS INCOMPETENCE.

Hell, at the same time a Cruise Ship the Artania rocked up in Perth, and the WA government literally told them to get fucked.

If WA can do so well, then NSW can to, but no, their terrible leadership cause all these issues. They let people in, they didn't close businesses, they didn't impose restrictions earl enough. Because of this, NSW had 20 times the cases as WA, 

"As of Wednesday, about one in every 10 cases of coronavirus in Australia could be linked to the Ruby Princess."

Your economies, that is, NSW and Victoria, who are doing the worst, are the fault of the NSW and Victorian governments. Because guess what, everyone else isn't doing badly, most other states are close to no change in economy, whilst WA has improved noticeably.

Anybody who compares the differences in lockdowns between NSW to Vic after comparing those "community spread case" numbers and says Vic's lockdown was too much, too long, is a fucking idiot.

 

Edited to add the missing comma. Fuck you jack!

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Ease the sheet. said:

Anybody who compares the differences in lockdowns between NSW to Vic after comparing those "community spread case" numbers and says Vic's lockdown was too much, too long is a fucking idiot.

You are being too kind.

No more posts I agree with ....it's very unnerving. :lol:

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21 minutes ago, Ease the sheet. said:

Edited to add the missing comma. Fuck you jack!

Don't know what comma does..but thank god....feel normal now.

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So there is another 15 Australians who will get bumped off flights already booked and paid for ....and to be stranded overseas even longer. 

Well done Australia.

PS. Taken at Doha Airport....betcha no one asked those big fellas to take off their pants and bend over. 13 Australian women invasively searched at Doha

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8 hours ago, Ease the sheet. said:

This.

Victoria is now in a much stronger position than NSW.

Thanks Dan!

In a way you are right. We have 800 less old buggers that we need to care for now. Thanks Dan

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7 minutes ago, The Dark Knight said:

In a way you are right. We have 800 less old buggers that we need to care for now. Thanks Dan

Hopefully nursing home costs will reflect the lack of demand......

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13 hours ago, jack_sparrow said:

So there is another 15 Australians who will get bumped off flights already booked and paid for ....and to be stranded overseas even longer. 

Well done Australia.

PS. Taken at Doha Airport....betcha no one asked those big fellas to take off their pants and bend over. 13 Australian women invasively searched at Doha

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Trying sprinkling some sugar on your weeties in the morning. 

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Dan is a Fucking Legend.

What happened in Victoria, Queensland and WA is proof that democracy is still working (just) in Australia.  Proof that we are not the complete slaves of the Money Lenders.

DAN IS the FUCKING MAN!

DAN; Australian of the Year.

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8 hours ago, Ease the sheet. said:

Hopefully nursing home costs will reflect the lack of demand......

They won't

Between the Ferrari driving owners showing off their wealth, the general poor treatment of residents and the whole Covid nursing home disaster, I believe that we need to insource aged care back into the government.

I believe that the original principle of outsourcing (not just aged car, but most services) was sound because the public service organisations were too bloated and full of dead-wood. The problem is that it creates a middlemen economy and over time it becomes more expensive and both the Government and workers get ripped off. I've seen that in IT and I'm glad to no longer be a contractor. 

I live not far from Hambleton House where the dregs of the neighbourhood live which had a covid outbreak. The place is a rundown shit hole and the owners have a photo of them driving their convertible newish Merc on their Facebook page. 

 

 

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23 minutes ago, The Dark Knight said:

I believe that we need to insource aged care back into the government.

Be careful what you wish for. Look at places that have both private and public. 

The problem is the huge disparity in business models and quality of services/facilities, but no differentiation by the Government for their contribution. Superb sits beside shit. Sieze the facilities of the serial offenders and fuck them.

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4 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:

Be careful what you wish for.

The problem is the huge disparity in business models and quality of services/facilities, but no differentiation by the Government for their contribution. Superb sits beside shit. Sieze the facilities of the serial offenders and fuck them.

I certainly don't mean all. Like the hospital system, there is certainly a need for private. I'm happy for owners to drive around in flashy Ferrari's if it's because they have created a successful business with happy customers who are forking out extra money to live there. The same applies to well run non-profit homes that rely totally on Government payments.

 

10 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:

Sieze the facilities of the serial offenders and fuck them.

exactly....

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38 minutes ago, astro said:

Dan is a Fucking Legend.

Yes it is amazing. 

Yesterday presser his nose made it to the carpark everytime he said 'contact' or 'trace.'  

He would get a job in the circus in a heartbeat...star attraction. 

The could call him the 'Mighty Proboscis.'

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9 hours ago, Ease the sheet. said:

Hopefully nursing home costs will reflect the lack of demand......

For services low demand translates into higher costs.....what has caused this hate?

Did you spring your grandad banging your GF?

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5 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:

For services low demand translates into higher costs.....what has caused this hate?

Did you spring your grandad banging your GF?

Your ex ran away with my dog.

 

No surprise she found her more personable than you.

I still miss her.

 

 

2 days of zero, Jack. Seems the contract tracers have the situation well understood.

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1 hour ago, The Dark Knight said:

I certainly don't mean all. Like the hospital system, there is certainly a need for private. I'm happy for owners to drive around in flashy Ferrari's if it's because they have created a successful business with happy customers who are forking out extra money to live there. The same applies to well run non-profit homes that rely totally on Government payments.

 

exactly....

Those cunts driving around in their flash Ferraris etc are doing so highly subsidized by the Government/ Taxpayer and on the back of underpaid and exploited workers, underfed, under-cleaned and under-managed aged inmates and I use that word deliberately. I have had twice in the past  and currently have a relative 'existing' in  ludicrously expensive private aged care situations ( 3 different providers) and its a fucking crime, an absolute national shame.

As for the criminal extortion of insanely high commission fees on the post-death sale of the accommodation to the next sucker, that's the greatest legalised scam in real estate which is really what the private "aged care" business model is based on. They are NOT in the business of providing care.

As an undeniable Federal responsibility, Scomotionless and his torpid LNP have a fuck ton to answer for with regard to private aged care in this country. That day is coming...

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1 hour ago, Ease the sheet. said:

2 days of zero, Jack. Seems the contract tracers have the situation well understood.

Your puppy analogy is very instructive.

Digest the underlined.

Bookmark it.

19 hours ago, jack_sparrow said:

I have just watched Andrews presser in full. 

Very impressive. Andrews clear, concise and digestible messaging, one of the best I've seen worldwide attempting to get community buy-in going forward. Community buy-in is the primary pillar.

Having said that the absence of audio visual aids is a bit perplexing, however if not used well, probably better without.

Time and willingness to 'take' questions (not to be confused with answers) first class.

The unimpressive. No epidemiology thresholds identified for specific Mitigation/Suppression responses such as reproduction rates region by region. The inference is they DON'T know. See comments on CTT below and AV aids above.

Not an ounce of acknowledgement the Govt fucked up BUT at the same time putting responsibility on the community. That cloud of denial erodes community buy-in.

The appalling. As soon as Andrews and glove puppet interrogated by the media on CTT,  the bullshit starts flowing.

For instance no mention on persons tested only tests. Claimed that 4,000 Nth suburbs tests and zero new cases is a measure that CTT is working. In fact it is the opposite. 98% < 48 hours turnaround time from contact to test result, with most around 30 hours Andrews said Australian standard 

He is wrong, that is in fact a global platinum standard.

However REFUSES to identify contact sources and quantum involving tracing not just testing. That 98% then becomes a TOTALLY irrelevant measure. The inference is CTT capacity is shit.

Covid Normal Preparation. I would be very fearfull until there is transparency on epidemiology thresholds and Victoria's CTT capacity. That said other states also have some transparency shortcomings.

Pretty emotional day for Victoria it showed and thank god they are nearly there.

 

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4 minutes ago, Flatbag said:

Those cunts driving around in their flash Ferraris etc are doing so highly subsidized by the Government/ Taxpayer and on the back of underpaid and exploited workers, underfed, under-cleaned and under-managed aged inmates and I use that word deliberately. I have had twice in the past  and currently have a relative 'existing' in  ludicrously expensive private aged care situations ( 3 different providers) and its a fucking crime, an absolute national shame.

As for the criminal extortion of insanely high commission fees on the post-death sale of the accommodation to the next sucker, that's the greatest legalised scam in real estate which is really what the private "aged care" business model is based on. They are NOT in the business of providing care.

As an undeniable Federal responsibility, Scomotionless and his torpid LNP have a fuck ton to answer for with regard to private aged care in this country. That day is coming...

What did Labour do to fix aged care when they were in power and what have the Libs done to make it worse since then? 

I don't know the answer to either as I was living in Europe from the early Howard days and until late in Abbotts time. 

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What did Labour do to fix aged care when they were in power and what have the Libs done to make it worse since then? 

I don't know the answer to either as I was living in Europe from the early Howard days and until late in Abbotts time. 

Aged Care in Victoria was one of many industries privatised by the much lauded and frequently outspoken Jeff Kennett ( actually pron. Cunt) . Turned out well, didn't it?

Funny how so many of those who flocked to that new cash-torrent industry were significant LNP donors and supporters.

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23 minutes ago, Flatbag said:

As for the criminal extortion of insanely high commission fees on the post-death sale of the accommodation to the next sucker, that's the greatest legalised scam in real estate which is really what the private "aged care" business model is based on. They are NOT in the business of providing care

That is not Commonwealth funded aged care and it is certainly not aged care by service delivery standard. That is a real estate seniors living model legislated by the states as the precursor to aged care.

It is used by some operators to help fund aged care over and above returns derived from Commonwealth funding. Some do both very well and some should be put in jail.

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4 minutes ago, Flatbag said:

Aged Care in Victoria was one of many industries privatised by the much lauded and frequently outspoken Jeff Kennett ( actually pron. Cunt) . Turned out well, didn't it?

Funny how so many of those who flocked to that new cash-torrent industry were significant LNP donors and supporters.

I do like the fact Rudd ended homelessness in Australia just like he said he would. Top marks that man.

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1 minute ago, FinnFish said:

I do like the fact Rudd ended homelessness in Australia just like he said he would. Top marks that man.

I thought that was Hawke <_<

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Just now, Flatbag said:

Aged Care in Victoria was one of many industries privatised by the much lauded and frequently outspoken Jeff Kennett ( actually pron. Cunt) . Turned out well, didn't it?

Funny how so many of those who flocked to that new cash-torrent industry were significant LNP donors and supporters.

Love him or hate him, Jeff made the structural changes to Victoria that we needed and paved the way towards a strong economy that subsequently benefitted both Liberal and Labour premiers since. We needed Jeff and the fact that subsequent Labor governments never reversed many of the major reforms that Jeff implemented just goes to show that they accept that they were necessary.

 

2 hours ago, The Dark Knight said:

I believe that the original principle of outsourcing (not just aged car, but most services) was sound because the public service organisations were too bloated and full of dead-wood. The problem is that it creates a middlemen economy and over time it becomes more expensive and both the Government and workers get ripped off. I've seen that in IT and I'm glad to no longer be a contractor. 

 

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1 minute ago, FinnFish said:

I do like the fact Rudd ended homelessness in Australia just like he said he would. Top marks that man.

Bullshit, he built shit loads of much needed school gyms with public access being a key basis. How many homeless do you reckon they could accommodate?

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2 minutes ago, Dark Cloud said:

I thought that was Hawke <_<

Nah, that was kids in poverty. By 1990. That was a Non-Core promise...

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6 minutes ago, Flatbag said:

Bullshit, he built shit loads of much needed school gyms with public access being a key basis. How many homeless do you reckon they could accommodate?

Too funny. Now tell us about Murdoch and 9/11.

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7 minutes ago, Flatbag said:

Nah, that was kids in poverty. By 1990. That was a Non-Core promise...

Ratbag you really need to show some healthy scepticism about both sides of politics otherwise people will accuse you of having your head up your arse.

There is nothing worse than someone who acts like their preferred side of politics is infallible. 

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25 minutes ago, Flatbag said:

Nah, that was kids in poverty. By 1990. That was a Non-Core promise...

Ha, yeah that's right

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"On the wider wearing of masks, Mr Andrews said masks remain mandatory to the end of the year and probably into 2021."

 

Fuck that for a joke. I'm not wearing a mask when I'm walking in empty streets.

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3 hours ago, astro said:

Dan is a Fucking Legend.

What happened in Victoria, Queensland and WA is proof that democracy is still working (just) in Australia.  Proof that we are not the complete slaves of the Money Lenders.

DAN IS the FUCKING MAN!

DAN; Australian of the Year.

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1 hour ago, Dark Cloud said:

I thought that was Hawke <_<

As I recall Bob said that no child will be living in poverty and Kevie said that he was going to buy every homeless child a computer. I wonder how they plug them into their cardboard box?

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41 minutes ago, The Dark Knight said:

"On the wider wearing of masks, Mr Andrews said masks remain mandatory to the end of the year and probably into 2021."

 

Fuck that for a joke. I'm not wearing a mask when I'm walking in empty streets.

Thanks, but we didn't need extra evidence of your selfishness.

 

Maybe you could continue down that path and not wear a seatbelt when you drive?

Maybe play with your phone when you drive? Especially after a few beers?

That will teach the government!

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19 minutes ago, LB 15 said:

As I recall Bob said that no child will be living in poverty and Kevie said that he was going to buy every homeless child a computer. I wonder how they plug them into their cardboard box?

The computers came with a solar panel and a signed copy of 10 to 1.....

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27 minutes ago, LB 15 said:

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So you, or no one in your business took any money from the government this year?

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5 minutes ago, astro said:

So you, or no one in your business took any money from the government this year?

You mean all those navigation assets aren't free?

I wonder who dredges the channels........

 

 

Why limit it to this year?

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52 minutes ago, Ease the sheet. said:

Thanks, but we didn't need extra evidence of your selfishness.

 

Maybe you could continue down that path and not wear a seatbelt when you drive?

Maybe play with your phone when you drive? Especially after a few beers?

That will teach the government!

So how does it affect me or anyone else if I am walking empty streets without a mask?

 

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3 hours ago, The Dark Knight said:

"On the wider wearing of masks, Mr Andrews said masks remain mandatory to the end of the year and probably into 2021."

2 hours ago, Ease the sheet. said:

Thanks, but we didn't need extra evidence of your selfishness.

 

No, that is evidence that Victoria don't have sufficient CTT and response capacity in place and evidence that Andrews knows that.

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2 hours ago, Ease the sheet. said:

Maybe you could continue down that path and not wear a seatbelt when you drive?

Maybe play with your phone when you drive? Especially after a few beers?

That is exactly the path in front of Victorians if their Govt doesn't get its shit together and get CTT sorted. 

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1 hour ago, Ease the sheet. said:

How does what you do affect anyone?

It doesn't so fuck off.

I'll be accepting of wearing masks in stores and crowded environments, but fuck it on the street alone or with my daughter.

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8 minutes ago, The Dark Knight said:

I'll be accepting of wearing masks in stores and crowded environments, but fuck it on the street alone or with my daughter.

Crowded environments as a 'risk measure' for mask wearing and where reproduction risk is highest is bullshit for anyone not in that environment all the time such as workers. It is the 'behaviour' within that environment that is the 'risk measure'. The family home can out rank most for that risk. 

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Just now, jack_sparrow said:

That is exactly the path in front of Victorians if their Govt doesn't get its shit together and get CTT sorted. 

Wrong, you idiot.

It's about non compliance.

Nothing is effective, especially CTT if people are non compliant.

An asymptomatic carrier gives the virus to someone who doesn't get tested and the first a CCT member hears about that case is when that someone ends up in hospital. Meanwhile there's 50 cases in the community.

 

And that gives you an opportunity for another 500 "missing the point" posts

 

It never fucking ends.

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7 minutes ago, The Dark Knight said:

It doesn't so fuck off.

I'll be accepting of wearing masks in stores and crowded environments, but fuck it on the street alone or with my daughter.

I'm sure your daughter will appreciate the example you show.

That's why you're an idiot.

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3 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:

Crowded environments as a measure for mask wearing and where reproduction risk is highest is bullshit. It is the 'behaviour' within that environment. The family home out ranks most for that risk. 

The family home, where nobody wears a mask.....

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2 minutes ago, Ease the sheet. said:

It never fucking ends

Exactly. Do you have a Dan shrine at home or do you visit a community one?

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8 minutes ago, Ease the sheet. said:

It's about non compliance.

Nothing is effective, especially CTT if people are non compliant.

And if CTT is 'non-compliant' what is all that is left as a response??

You are on a roll today. 

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We will probably get a spike from the next few days. Dead shit Dan is an idiot opening up too many things all at once, especially when there will be a false sense of security from two days of "double donuts". 

Retail should have opened much earlier.  

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7 minutes ago, Ease the sheet. said:

I'm sure your daughter will appreciate the example you show.

That's why you're an idiot.

so you haven't explained why wearing a mask around nobody is a bad or risky behaviour. 

 

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7 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:

And if CTT is 'non-compliant' what is all that is left as a response??

You are on a roll today. 

English not your first language?

The best CCT system gets rendered irrelevant if nobody comes forward and gets tested.....

 

 

Simplifying a complex system of individual, community and institutional behaviours as "CCT bad, Victoria fucked, Dan's a feckless cunt" only reinforces everyone's opinion of you as a an ignorant, loud mouth bully.

 

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2 minutes ago, The Dark Knight said:

so you haven't explained why wearing a mask around nobody is a bad or risky behaviour. 

 

So you don't think people respond to examples?

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3 hours ago, astro said:

So you, or no one in your business took any money from the government this year?

Since I have employed hundreds of people and paid Gazillions in tax in my working life, that is hardly 'Free stuff'.

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12 minutes ago, Ease the sheet. said:

The best CCT system gets rendered irrelevant if nobody comes forward and gets tested.....

You are blowing my mind today. 

What caused this epiphany?

23 hours ago, jack_sparrow said:

Very impressive. Andrews clear, concise and digestible messaging, one of the best I've seen worldwide attempting to get community buy-in going forward. Community buy-in is the primary pillar...

The unimpressive. .....Not an ounce of acknowledgement the Govt fucked up BUT at the same time putting responsibility on the community. That cloud of denial erodes community buy-in.....

The appalling. As soon as Andrews and glove puppet interrogated by the media on CTT,  the bullshit starts flowing....

 

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2 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:

You are blowing my mind today. 

What caused this epiphany?

 

So you're unimpressed about Dan reminding the community of its role?

 

Got it....

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49 minutes ago, Ease the sheet. said:

So you're unimpressed about Dan reminding the community of its role?

Got it....

"Got it.".....Unfortunately No..... you back to bullshitting and worshiping at the Dan Shrine again. That didn't last long.

55 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:
  On 10/26/2020 at 3:33 PM, jack_sparrow said:

Very impressive. Andrews clear, concise and digestible messaging, one of the best I've seen worldwide attempting to get community buy-in going forward. Community buy-in is the primary pillar...

 

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1 hour ago, The Dark Knight said:

a good speech

 

ScoMo speech more statesman like BUT letting the attack dog off the leash here.

Why so brutally honest?

Albanese and Richard Marles Deputy Leader and a Victorian both spoke beforehand as follows. 

They both REFUSED to acknowledge the cause of 2nd wave, largely skirted the 800  and went hard on quoting new cases comparative stats from same date of peak at end of July. Compared to other Aust states? No. 

That was 723 in Victoria comparing with that of gross (not per capita) similiar numbers in France and the UK at Victorian peak. Then today where French and UK new cases 20K+. Their autumn 2nd wave is off and running.

They were almost relishing in what is occuring in Europe to try and paint a rosy Dan picture.

Victorians have done amazingly well.

Those two opportunistic cunts spoilt it. 

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1 hour ago, LB 15 said:

Since I have employed hundreds of people and paid Gazillions in tax in my working life, that is hardly 'Free stuff'.

So you and your employees took the coronavirus money right?

It was free, it was a socialist handout and you took it.

YCMTSU

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12 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:

ScoMo speech more statesman like BUT letting the attack dog off the leash here.

Why so brutally honest?

Albanese and Richard Marles Deputy Leader and a Victorian both spoke beforehand as follows. 

They both REFUSED to acknowledge the cause of 2nd wave, largely skirted the 800  and went hard on quoting new cases comparative stats from same date of peak at end of July. Compared to other Aust states? No. 

That was 723 in Victoria comparing with that of gross (not per capita) similiar numbers in France and the UK at Victorian peak. Then today where French and UK new cases 20K+. Their autumn 2nd wave is off and running.

They were almost relishing in what is occuring in Europe to try and paint a rosy Dan picture.

Victorians have done amazingly well.

Those two opportunistic cunts spoilt it. 

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Bullshit.

Victoria's CTT much better than the others in that graph.

Who'd of thunk it.....

Victoria, the envy of the world!

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2 hours ago, jack_sparrow said:

....Victorians have done amazingly well.

Those two opportunistic cunts spoilt it

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2 hours ago, Ease the sheet. said:

Bullshit.

Victoria's CTT much better than the others in that graph.

 

Fuck ...there I was all primed expecting a scorching reply on political bias, OR maybe a diversion that 800 dead is Victoria's contribution to combatting global warming.

"Bullshit. Victoria's CTT much better than the others in that graph"

But using CTT as a diversion. Wow you really have cranked up the fucking surprises today.

BTW CTT is for 'finding' positive cases. So 'how' do you work out CTT 'response capacity' from "that graph"? 

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To continue the 'aged care' discourse.

Says Keneally: "No tender. No obvious due diligence, and a $900k contract to a company run out of a two bedroom, two bathroom flat in Pyrmont."

BTW Opal Aged Care – half owned by AMP Capital over 70 homes/6k residents Aust wide, but NOT ranked in Top 10 providers. 

 

And a "contractor" case in Victoria once Andrews lit the match. 

24 Oct - Experts criticise Australia's aged care failings over COVID-19

 

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2 hours ago, jack_sparrow said:

ScoMo speech more statesman like BUT letting the attack dog off the leash here.

Why so brutally honest?

Albanese and Richard Marles Deputy Leader and a Victorian both spoke beforehand as follows. 

They both REFUSED to acknowledge the cause of 2nd wave, largely skirted the 800  and went hard on quoting new cases comparative stats from same date of peak at end of July. Compared to other Aust states? No. 

That was 723 in Victoria comparing with that of gross (not per capita) similiar numbers in France and the UK at Victorian peak. Then today where French and UK new cases 20K+. Their autumn 2nd wave is off and running.

They were almost relishing in what is occuring in Europe to try and paint a rosy Dan picture.

Victorians have done amazingly well.

Those two opportunistic cunts spoilt it. 

ElRmoglWMAEuBwv.jpeg

I was guessing something like that happened beforehand 

 

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