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If you have found and good Covid-19 conspiracies, please post them here as many of us could use a good laugh.

I saw this on FB and at first thought it was serious and started watching. It was ok at first but then the video tried to convince viewers that China & US pretty much created the virus together. I definitely would entertain the possibility that China created the virus and it escaped, but the two working together LOL

I then explored the YT page and realise it's all full of fanciful  conspiracies. I assume they are going down the "one world government" conspiracy line.

 

 

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Too many to count floating about, but the general themes are:

  • Attribution to the Wuhan Wet market and various fauna
  • Attribution to the Wuhan Wet market and a patient Zero who had contracted it elsewhere
    • Only level 4 Biosafety lab in China in Wuhan, 
    • Apparently the known species of "Horse shoe Bat" was being studied in Wuhan lab, but is not indigenous to the area 
  • Attribution to the Wuhan Lab as a deliberate release 
  • Attribution to any of the above and the CCP suppressing the knowledge and strong arming WHO
  • Deliberate timing of release to coincide with Lunar Near Year and returning Diaspora visitors
  • US engineering virus and releasing at Wuhan for cover

After you get past the origin theories: there's a whole set of themes related to the local identification and reactions to it...

 

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35 minutes ago, LionessRacing said:

Too many to count floating about, but the general themes are:

  • Attribution to the Wuhan Wet market and various fauna
  • Attribution to the Wuhan Wet market and a patient Zero who had contracted it elsewhere
    • Only level 4 Biosafety lab in China in Wuhan, 
    • Apparently the known species of "Horse shoe Bat" was being studied in Wuhan lab, but is not indigenous to the area 
  • Attribution to the Wuhan Lab as a deliberate release 
  • Attribution to any of the above and the CCP suppressing the knowledge and strong arming WHO
  • Deliberate timing of release to coincide with Lunar Near Year and returning Diaspora visitors
  • US engineering virus and releasing at Wuhan for cover

After you get past the origin theories: there's a whole set of themes related to the local identification and reactions to it...

 

Dr. Fauci said it is ' mindboggling that any of China's wet markets are still operating'   I'm going to accept his opinion.   

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4 minutes ago, Cristoforo said:

Dr. Fauci said it is ' mindboggling that any of China's wet markets are still operating'   I'm going to accept his opinion.   

And yet the place where they are still operating seemed to have contained their virus faster and more thoroughly than the world's most advanced nation and are now back to selling shit to us.  What a strange world.

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They operate as a standing army and followed orders to stay in place. As far as the actual numbers of cases and the possibility of another wave of infections in an few weeks, their response and containment success remains to be seen.

I did hear of the Chinese theory that the CIA planted the virus there to make them look sloppy at their infectious disease lab in Wuhan.

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Just now, MR.CLEAN said:

And yet the place where they are still operating seemed to have contained their virus faster and more thoroughly than the world's most advanced nation and are now back to selling shit to us.  What a strange world.

Wow, you usually like to answer questions with unrelated questions.
How do you get to sleep at night with all of those confused thoughts ricocheting around an empty skull?  
So you believe China data now? 
Explain the governing differences between China and the USA, and their freedom of the press and movement.  Go!   
Where are the tanks? What was  Hunter's specialty expertise at Boies? When will the Storm Trysail Club secrets be revealed?


  

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I'm not sure if the CCP lying about death statistics meets the bar for a conspiracy theory, but Windy.com or someone else falsifying data at the request of the CCP does.

1. During the Chinese New Year holiday, there was a lot of discussion and news reports of large releases of sulfur dioxide gas around Wuhan and Chongquing: 

2.  Xinhua publishes the China National Environmental Monitoring Center's refutation of the data

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BEIJING, Feb. 12 (Xinhua) -- The China National Environmental Monitoring Center (CNEMC) on Wednesday refuted data on a foreign weather website that allegedly pointed to heightened levels of sulfur dioxide around Wuhan, the epicenter of the coronavirus outbreak, as "seriously distorted."

Data provided by Windy.com, a Czech company providing weather forecasting services, reportedly showed that sulfur dioxide levels in so-called "contaminated zones" of Wuhan had topped 1,500 micrograms per cubic meter early on Sunday.

Some foreign media reports picked up the incorrect data, used it as an indicator of mass cremations of bodies or medical waste, and accused China of a major cover-up.

After cross-checking Windy's off-the-charts data with those collected by monitoring centers in Wuhan run by third-party companies, the CNEMC found that the sulfur dioxide concentration in the reported areas did not even exceed 8 micrograms per cubic meter during that time.

Satellite data also showed Wuhan's peak reading of the pollutant did not surpass 11.5 micrograms per cubic meter from Feb. 3 to 9, and the city did not see a spike in the substance when compared with surrounding areas.

Instead, the city registered a marked drop in key air pollutants. From Jan. 24 to Feb. 10, the concentration of small and breathable particles known as PM2.5 dropped by 38 percent year on year, while PM10 and sulfur dioxide plunged by 42 percent and 22 percent, respectively.

An unnamed CNEMC official highlighted Windy's data deviation when it comes to measuring sulfur dioxide levels in other Chinese cities.

For example, a monitoring center in Dongsi in downtown Beijing showed an average reading of 15 micrograms per cubic meter on Tuesday, while data offered by Windy.com averaged 212 micrograms per cubic meter.

Data gathered by techniques such as satellite retrieval and model simulation, both non-standardized monitoring methods, should be checked with actual monitoring on the ground and is meaningful only when its margin of error falls within a limited range, the official said.

"Windy's ground-level sulfur dioxide data was not calibrated with the actual data gathered by on-site monitoring in China, leading to figures 10 times or even 100 times greater than the actual amount," he said. "It is anything but precise."

 

3. Only Taiwanese news stories about the SO2 bubble remain up today, everyone else has debunking articles now.

4. Anecdotal reports from Wuhan included sightings of hastily constructed incinerators around the time of Chinese New Year. A few weeks later, there were reports that a significant fraction Chinese medics that had been sent to Wuhan were being returned to their families as cremation urns.

 

On one hand, if satellite based environmental monitoring data is this unreliable, that seems like a big problem. On the other hand, if the CCP is able to suppress accurate environmental data, that's also troubling.

 

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43 minutes ago, Sail4beer said:

They operate as a standing army and followed orders to stay in place. As far as the actual numbers of cases and the possibility of another wave of infections in an few weeks, their response and containment success remains to be seen.

I did hear of the Chinese theory that the CIA planted the virus there to make them look sloppy at their infectious disease lab in Wuhan.

Obviously these are not Chinese Jews. Otherwise they would have just stayed in their apartments 
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronavirus-hasidic-jews-rabbi-funeral-brooklyn-social-distancing/

https://www.nydailynews.com/coronavirus/ny-coronavirus-nypd-funeral-crowds-break-up-de-blasio-20200406-6bc6zby6ljcptagfh75ahwbkhq-story.html

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50 minutes ago, Cristoforo said:

Wow, you usually like to answer questions with unrelated questions.
How do you get to sleep at night with all of those confused thoughts ricocheting around an empty skull?  
So you believe China data now? 
Explain the governing differences between China and the USA, and their freedom of the press and movement.  Go!   
Where are the tanks? What was  Hunter's specialty expertise at Boies? When will the Storm Trysail Club secrets be revealed?


  

The tanks are at the ROTC training center at UConn.  Hunter's speciality at Boies was pandemic planning.  And unfortunately the STC secrets all died with your best pal Tony.  Good talk.  

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22 minutes ago, apophenia said:

I'm not sure if the CCP lying about death statistics meets the bar for a conspiracy theory, but Windy.com or someone else falsifying data at the request of the CCP does.

Start with where Windy gets their base info from and in what form. They simply repackage.

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1 hour ago, Cristoforo said:

They would have stayed in their homes and away from each other if the Rabbi’s simply told them to do so. Now 800 of them are sick as of today. If you do the math like rest of the country, they are doing themselves in. They are a zombie like cult and don’t care about our American laws and cry anti Semitism if they are arrested or turned down for permits to build more temples and take over neighborhoods.

In China, you complain or break laws and you disappear. 

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2 minutes ago, Sail4beer said:

They would have stayed in their homes and away from each other if the Rabbi’s simply told them to do so. Now 800 of them are sick as of today. If you do the math like rest of the country, they are doing themselves in. They are a zombie like cult and don’t care about our American laws and cry anti Semitism if they are arrested or turned down for permits to build more temples and take over neighborhoods.

In China, you complain or break laws and you disappear. 

Yep. Just like the tribe of Mr. Clean who ignored travel warnings and  flew to Seattle with a bandana on his schnozzle in mid  March. Or he claimed he did anyway. Didn't he read Navarro's memo? Now he is a converted Armageddon freedom fighter preparing for the Chinese invasion of San Francisco and the nuclear war with the USA. Oh shit they've already started the invasion! Look how many there are here already!  I bet Jack Ma sent us masks with impregnated COVD19 spores.   Sneaky bastards!

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3 hours ago, jack_sparrow said:

Start with where Windy gets their base info from and in what form. They simply repackage.

Windy claims to get the data from NASA, so it's likely that the same people who airbrush out the faces on mars and the cities on the dark side of the moon are doing the CCP a solid in case they need an emergency lifeboat to the ISS.

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8 hours ago, Cristoforo said:

Dr. Fauci said it is ' mindboggling that any of China's wet markets are still operating'   I'm going to accept his opinion.   

Anyone that thinks the wet markets in Asia, let alone China, shows a complete lack of knowledge on how these countries operate. Just more thinking the west has all the answers. Bunch of self entitled assholes with no concept, or wish to learn about, other ways of life.

For me, the wet markets are one of the main things I miss now I am back in NZ.

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9 hours ago, apophenia said:

I'm not sure if the CCP lying about death statistics meets the bar for a conspiracy theory, but Windy.com or someone else falsifying data at the request of the CCP does.

1. During the Chinese New Year holiday, there was a lot of discussion and news reports of large releases of sulfur dioxide gas around Wuhan and Chongquing: ......

 

In Feb Trump said this ...I don't know who to believe these days.

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Windy showed Australia had elevated sulphur dioxide gas levels in the New Year ...so maybe the Chinese were sending their bodies and medical waste there to hide the evidence??

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49 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:

Windy showed Australia had elevated sulphur dioxide gas levels in the New Year ...so maybe the Chinese were sending their bodies and medical waste there to hide the evidence??

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we call em 'bushfires' which was actually a coverup by the Oz govt - yes Jack is right, we were cremating on behalf of the chinese, but not so much as to destroy the bones, which Teaky is selling to the Tuvalu govt for reef regeneration, The US & Canadian govt's sent firefighters to help fight the "bushfires" in Oz in return for land rights in Tuvalu with which they will monitor the chinese expansion into the Spratly islands forcing the Philippine govt to withdraw it's currency from all international markets before the chines bought it all. The chinese responded with an apparent virus outbreak in some town called woohoo.

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I’m with Merrill on this one 

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Whoa, that was way over my level of comprehension at the moment. 

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2 hours ago, Merrill Levi said:

....was actually a coverup by the Oz govt - yes Jack is right, we were cremating on behalf of the chinese,

Yes the Ozy Government did a fuckin good job on behalf of them Chinamen. Not cremating them in one place to draw attention like those dicks in Wuhan, but using mobile kit from BBQ's Galore to spread it around the country was pure genius. 

Apparently they sent the ashes back to China disguised as coal and iron ore. So fair chance if you are driving a Great Wall SUV in the US, you have half dozen fucking Chinamen hiding out riding with you. Trump voters will go friggin mental when they find that out.

Totally baffling how no one has fuckin cottoned onto this yet, after seeing on Windy that the joint was lit up like a Xmas tree.

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basically anything that comes outa tRumps gob .

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13 hours ago, Gissie said:

Anyone that thinks the wet markets in Asia, let alone China, shows a complete lack of knowledge on how these countries operate. Just more thinking the west has all the answers. Bunch of self entitled assholes with no concept, or wish to learn about, other ways of life.

For me, the wet markets are one of the main things I miss now I am back in NZ.

And yet the whole world suffers because a pandemic started and could not be controlled or contained in the east.  What a bunch of ignorant  bat eating, sheep fuckers.  

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Is there any truth to the covid-19 virus migrating from human to human to human to computer? Is it possible this is the latest pc pandemic that will shut down the global internets?  I was told it was being precipitated by pornhub.com being free and so many people masturbating on their laptops and phones. 

Asking for a friend.

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On 4/8/2020 at 12:14 AM, MR.CLEAN said:

And yet the place where they are still operating seemed to have contained their virus faster and more thoroughly than the world's most advanced nation and are now back to selling shit to us.  What a strange world.

Took tough calls Clean but it seems to be working. Strange not many countries are putting them into practice.

i live in China and we have several friends who have lived through the 76 day lockdown in Wuhan. FYI the sponsors of Dongfeng Race Team are based in Wuhan.

I could write a lot more but why feed the flames of the idiotic conspiracy theories. They clearly have more time on the their hands than i do

See you on the water

SS

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7 minutes ago, shanghaisailor said:

Took tough calls Clean but it seems to be working. Strange not many countries are putting them into practice.

i live in China and we have several friends who have lived through the 76 day lockdown in Wuhan. FYI the sponsors of Dongfeng Race Team are based in Wuhan.

I could write a lot more but why feed the flames of the idiotic conspiracy theories. They clearly have more time on the their hands than i do

See you on the water

SS

Thanks A and glad you are busy.  We have to talk about DF soon.  They want to open a factory in partnership with one of my clients.

 

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4 hours ago, d'ranger said:

Is there any truth to the covid-19 virus migrating from human to human to human to computer? Is it possible this is the latest pc pandemic that will shut down the global internets?  I was told it was being precipitated by pornhub.com being free and so many people masturbating on their laptops and phones. 

Asking for a friend.

Absolutely true. Neal Stephenson wrote an expose back in the early '90s. Unfortunately, you have to talk to Neal's buddy Jeff who runs an obscure bookstore up in Seattle to get yourself a copy, its existence has been suppressed by the powers that be everywhere else!

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7 hours ago, d'ranger said:

Is there any truth to the covid-19 virus migrating from human to human to human to computer? Is it possible this is the latest pc pandemic that will shut down the global internets?  I was told it was being precipitated by pornhub.com being free and so many people masturbating on their laptops and phones. 

Asking for a friend.

So what you’re saying is Bull Gaytor broke the world by jerking off to Gay Porn in his mommy’s basement?

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11 hours ago, Cristoforo said:

And yet the whole world suffers because a pandemic started and could not be controlled or contained in the east.  What a bunch of ignorant  bat eating, sheep fuckers.  

Whoa that’s a bit rude mate ! And we live in houses , not under overlapping headsails 

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Well....... not so much a 'ouse as a 'ole in t' road....

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11 hours ago, Cristoforo said:

..What a bunch of ignorant bat eating, sheep fuckers.  

Do Kiwis' eat bats?

"Eating" ..isn't it "drinking" bat soup?

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12 hours ago, Cristoforo said:

And yet the whole world suffers because a pandemic started and could not be controlled or contained in the east.  What a bunch of ignorant  bat eating, sheep fuckers.  

Whether that is true or not, anyone thinking wet markets can just be shut proves that eating bat's and fucking sheep is not a prerequisite for being ignorant. You being a classic example.

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12 hours ago, Cristoforo said:

And yet the whole world suffers because a pandemic started and could not be controlled or contained in the east.  What a bunch of ignorant  bat eating, sheep fuckers.  

Nice rant....however...

www.counterpunch.org/2020/04/08/how-china-learned-about-sars-cov-2-in-the-weeks-before-the-global-pandemic/


"On March 17, Kristian Andersen of the Scripps Research Institute in California and his team showed that the new coronavirus strain, SARS-CoV-2, had a mutation in its genes known as a polybasic cleavage site that was unseen in any coronaviruses found in bats or pangolins and that there is a likelihood that the virus came to humans many years ago, and indeed not necessarily in Wuhan."

...and...

Biosafety Level 4 labs in the spotlight as speculation swirls that Covid-19 may have emerged from such a facility

asiatimes.com/2020/04/biosecurity-in-question-at-us-germ-labs/

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1 hour ago, dorydude said:

Nice rant....however...

www.counterpunch.org/2020/04/08/how-china-learned-about-sars-cov-2-in-the-weeks-before-the-global-pandemic/

"On March 17, Kristian Andersen of the Scripps Research Institute in California and his team showed....

...and...

Biosafety Level 4 labs in the spotlight as speculation swirls that Covid-19 may have emerged from such a facility

asiatimes.com/2020/04/biosecurity-in-question-at-us-germ-labs/

Dory you say nice rant about bats?? So you have uncovered it was "Seabreeze" NOT "Windy" that tracked this sucker down??

Anyway you say the virus escaped from a Chinese Level 4 Lab.

Mate you do know spreading this rumor about the origins of the virus was started by several right wing prominent politicians and pundits who regularly spew anti Chinese nonsense. Like this Neanderthal. Are you in cahoots with them?

U.S. Senator Tom Cotton amplified a coronavirus conspiracy denounced by scientists

Also that the world's virologists who’ve parsed the genome say they have enough evidence the virus is brand new and came from nature...aka bats. Papers galore about that. Maybe you should widen your reading?

Anyway Dory you now have me really confused.

You subsctibe to the view the virus escaped from a Chinese Level 4 Laboratory. (BSL-4 is the highest level of biocontainment: its criteria include filtering air and treating water and waste before they leave the lab)

BUT

You also keep saying this virus is just a "bad flue"?? 

What were they doing in the highest level of biocontainment, in the one such facility in China and so busy with Ebola and shit, fucking around with just a "bad flu" virus?? They could have been doing that in the office out the back??

Wish you would make up your mind mate. A ferocious virus bitch OR bad flu.

Mate you do tend to be all over the shop. You sure you haven't contracted it??

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49 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:

Mate...

Well, it is the "conspiracy" thread.

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A conspiracy theorist must believe in government competence which is something I don't believe in.

We have this which claims the Kung Flu was an accidental release from the level 4 bio lab in Wuhan by Dan Sirotkin who has a degree in political science from Harvard. Political science isn't really a science it's the art of speaking fluent bullshit.

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Logistical and Technical Exploration into the Origins of the Wuhan Strain of Coronavirus (COVID-19)

 
An accessible and comprehensive YouTube summary of the report below by a Professor of Neurobiology at the University of Pittsburgh’s Medical School is available here. And you can read our takedown of Nature magazine’s recent article claiming COVID-19 definitely wasn’t from a lab here.
 
This report is the product of a collaboration between Dr. Karl Sirotkin, a retired professional scientist with dozens of peer-reviewed publications and 30 years of experience in genomic sequencing and analysis, who worked at the Theoretical Biology Division of the Los Alamos National Laboratory and later helped design several ubiquitous bioinformatic software tools, as well as a former NSA counterterrorism analyst. It considers whether the Wuhan Strain of coronavirus (COVID-19) is the result of naturally emergent mutations against the possibility that it may be a bio-engineered strain – directly altered by genetic manipulation, subject to artificially-guided evolutionary selection, or both – most likely released into the public by accident since China’s rate of occupational accidents is about ten-times higher than America’s, and some twenty-times more than Europe’s, the only other regions with high-level virology labs.
 
Raising the odds of an accidental release, researchers from China’s only BSL-4 lab in Wuhan were reported to have particularly sloppy field research methods, being both bled and peed on by local bats that host coronaviruses remarkably similar to the Wuhan Strain COVID-19. And they’ve also been reported to smuggle used research animals out of their labs, selling them for cash on the street. Perhaps unsurprisingly, in mid February the Chinese Ministry of Science sent out a directive to all its labs emphasizing the important of carefully handling bio-infectious agents and alluding to slack oversight and past lapses, even mentioning coronaviruses specifically.
 
Mistakes may have been precipitated by the need to quickly finish research that was being rushed for Johns Hopkins’ Event 201 which was held this past October and meant to gameplan the containment of a global pandemic. Research may also have been hurried due to deadlines before the impending Chinese New Year – the timing of these events point to increased human error, not a globalist conspiracy. Beijing has had four known accidental leaks of the SARS virus in recent years, so there is absolutely no reason to assume that this strain of coronavirus from Wuhan didn’t accidentally leak out as well. This is unlikely to be a plot twist in one of the novels Tom Clancy wrote after he started mailing it in.
 
Simply and horribly, this is likely to become another Chernobyl or Fukushima – a catastrophic illustration of mankind’s hubris and intransigence clashing with Nature, as fate again reaps a once unimaginably tragic toll.
 
Given that this outbreak was said to begin in early winter when most bat species in the region are hibernating and the Chinese horseshoe bat’s habitat covers an enormous swath of the region containing scores of cities and hundreds of millions people, the fact that this Wuhan Strain of coronavirus, denoted as COVID-19, emerged in close proximity to the only BSL-4 virology lab in China, which in turn was staffed with at least two Chinese scientists – Zhengli Shi and Xing-Yi Ge – both virologists who had previously worked at an American lab which had already bio-engineered an incredibly virulent strain of bat coronavirus – the accidental release of a bio-engineered virus from Wuhan’s virology lab cannot be automatically discounted, especially when the Wuhan Strain’s unnatural genomic signals are considered.
 

 

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33 minutes ago, justsomeguy! said:

Well, it is the "conspiracy" thread.

Mate putting aside here is also where conspiracies are debunked. You don't know Dory...he is really fucking serious.

I'm still pissing myself over his accidental "Seabreeze" linky cites. He is the gift which keeps on giving.

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59 minutes ago, Mohammed Bin Lyin said:

...by Dan Sirotkin who has a degree in political science from Harvard. Political science isn't really a science it's the art of speaking fluent bullshit.

"'Given that this outbreak was said  to begin in early winter when most bat species in the region are hibernating, ...the fact that this Wuhan Strain of coronavirus, denoted as COVID-19, emerged in close proximity to the only BSL-4 virology lab in China...."

It gets pretty fucking funny when you track down who first came up with the "bat theory" not countless other shit they could have chosen from the largest market of its kind in China.

It's like the virus case rate, the bullshit is "exponential"

"Social Distancing" away from bullshit is harder than away from the virus particularly where the Bullshit Case Zero has a large megaphone and has a large lawn to fit lots of reporters on.

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41 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:
1 hour ago, Mohammed Bin Lyin said:

...by Dan Sirotkin who has a degree in political science from Harvard. Political science isn't really a science it's the art of speaking fluent bullshit.

"'Given that this outbreak was said  to begin in early winter when most bat species in the region are hibernating, ...the fact that this Wuhan Strain of coronavirus, denoted as COVID-19, emerged in close proximity to the only BSL-4 virology lab in China...."

It gets pretty fucking funny when you track down who first came up with the "bat theory" not countless other shit they could have chosen from the largest market of its kind in China.

 

We know the origins of this virus come from a bat, who came up with the shit this bat came from that wet market?  

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The possible origins of 2019-nCoV coronavirus

 

Botao Xiao1,2* and Lei Xiao3

 

The bats carrying CoV ZC45 were originally found in Yunnan or Zhejiang province,

both of which were more than 900 kilometers away from the seafood market. Bats were

normally found to live in caves and trees. But the seafood market is in a densely-populated

district of Wuhan, a metropolitan of ~15 million people. The probability was very low for the

bats to fly to the market.

 

According to municipal reports and the testimonies of 31 residents

and 28 visitors, the bat was never a food source in the city, and no bat was traded in the

market

https://web.archive.org/web/20200214144447/https:/www.researchgate.net/publication/339070128_The_possible_origins_of_2019-nCoV_coronavirus

 

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Mohammed Bin Lyin said:

We know the origins of this virus come from a bat, who came up with the shit this bat came from that wet market?..

Mate you say; "who came up with shit this bat came from that wet market?" That is actually currently reasonably sound (in the absence of other evidence) believe it or not.

However you forget the shitfuckery is it came from a Chinese Class 4 Laboratory making bat shit virus as bats were on a winter holiday at the time there.

First to dispell the horseshit listen to the experts and join the dots.

- There is a virus in bats, as well as a virus in pangolins, that shares similarities with the new virus that has appeared in humans. So no need to manufacture a virus as claimed, when it exists in nature. 

- So that virus in Chinese lab manufacturing shitfuckery totally discredited by all experts.

- December cases of COVID-19 now known were connected to seafood and ancillary stalls live animal market, or wet market, in the Chinese city of Wuhan. Largest in China fucking huge. 

- Mate in trying to discredit the bat theory you say the Chinese don't eat bats or maybe drink bat soup with a cite.

1 hour ago, Mohammed Bin Lyin said:

According to municipal reports and the testimonies of 31 residents and 28 visitors, the bat was never a food source in the city, and no bat was traded in the market

- Bad mistake using 31 residents and 28 visitors  I know China pretty well, love their wet market culture. I have never been to that market in Wuhan but with thousands of stall holders spread over as far as you can see I can guarantee you there is shit being sold there you would think bat is a delicacy. Anyway back to program.

- Scientists (Western and Chinese) never had the opportunity to sample the animals in the  to see whether there were viruses in existence. Probably never know because the wet market was cleared and decontaminated in late Dec/early Jan.

- So don't know this market was the actual source of the virus or the place where it jumped the species barrier from another animal to humans.

- SARS-CoV-2 is 96 per cent similar genetically to a bat coronavirus. Both SARS-CoV-1, the virus which caused the SARS outbreak in 2003, and MERS‐CoV, the virus that causes MERS, are found in bats.

- Hence the bat source has very strong legs. Scientists are nearly at agreement on that.

- Now enter the manufactured virus conspiracy fucktards.

- Right wing prominent politicians and pundits in the US who regularly spew anti Chinese nonsense. Like this moron who took bats, said they winter outside Wuhan but Whuan has the only BSL-4 virology lab in China. It was manufactured.   U.S. Senator Tom Cotton amplified a coronavirus conspiracy denounced by scientists

- Then the manufactered virus conspiracy goes to shit.

- If these xenophobic hillbilly US fucktards like Cotton went on Google they would find two things.

(a) Wuhan is a large city of 11 million people in central China sitting in an island province of around 60 million with many smaller cities. It is virtually the equivalent of London, Manchester, Glasgow etc sitting in the UK. The only difference in that province in China they have high speed rail to burn and full of international manufacturing industries like Honda etc. The UK say no more.

(b) Bats are really like humans in cities. They form very dense colonies with thousands in a small space. So that's ideal for infections to be able to transmit from one individual to another. Social distancing is not a behaviour seen in bat colonies.

- So for the Chinese bat in Wuhan Class 4 lab theory in winter to fly, it is the same as saying every single bat, no stragglers flew out of the UK to Spain. OR every single Wuhan bat went surfing in Bali for the winter.

Fucking morons

BTW the bat human connection is still not a matter agreed between scientists.  For now many doing a lot of work looking at fish viruses for instance. Interesting as Wuhan Market is a Seafood Market, other shit like say bats is only a stallholder side line.

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Which brings me back to the theory that there will be strict new restrictions on what shit can be sold in said markets . Isn’t it all about “face” over there ? And they’ve lost a crap ton of “face” whether this bat shit is true or not 

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1 hour ago, 44forty said:

Which brings me back to the theory that there will be strict new restrictions on what shit can be sold in said markets . Isn’t it all about “face” over there ? And they’ve lost a crap ton of “face” whether this bat shit is true or not 

Why have they lost face? They have recovered faster than anywhere else and are now helping the poor, decadent West by supplying services and equipment.

It is all in how you spin it. Xi will have it spun so both the Chinese people and himself are strong, resilient and better than the west. Those that disagree may find they get the warning shot to the back of the head...

 

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2 hours ago, 44forty said:

Which brings me back to the theory that there will be strict new restrictions on what shit can be sold in said markets . Isn’t it all about “face” over there ? And they’ve lost a crap ton of “face” whether this bat shit is true or not 

"Which brings me back to the theory..."

Mate my theory is you don't understand China very well and clearly never been to China to say that..eating at a Chinese restaurant doesn't count.

This a global thing. Not much help a seller saying they have done well when their customers are fucked and visa versa. Interesting to watch the two global super powers position on that. One is up and running constraints aside, the other is looking more inwardly every day and showing zero global leadership. A big change of the guard coming up?

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the West doesn't imagine life without a fridge ....

 

 

Wet Markets aren't going anywhere soon .

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9 minutes ago, Mid said:

the West doesn't imagine life without a fridge ....

Wet Markets aren't going anywhere soon .

Yep. An air conditioner and even a car rank higher than a fridge.

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4 hours ago, jack_sparrow said:
6 hours ago, Mohammed Bin Lyin said:

We know the origins of this virus come from a bat, who came up with the shit this bat came from that wet market?..

Mate you say; "who came up with shit this bat came from that wet market?" That is actually currently reasonably sound (in the absence of other evidence) believe it or not.

- Mate in trying to discredit the bat theory you say the Chinese don't eat bats or maybe drink bat soup with a cite.

6 hours ago, Mohammed Bin Lyin said:

According to municipal reports and the testimonies of 31 residents and 28 visitors, the bat was never a food source in the city, and no bat was traded in the market

- Bad mistake using 31 residents and 28 visitors  I know China pretty well, love their wet market culture. I have never been to that market in Wuhan

I never said Chinese people don't eat bats and don't drink bat soup, I just cited 2 Chinese scientists who say it doesn't happen in that part of Wuhan.

The official story from the CCP is this virus came from a bat in that wet market. 2 Chinese scientists said bats were never sold in that market. The great atheist Ibn Rushd said " two truths cannot contradict each other". We know who you believe on this it's a government with a track record of telling lies.

We also have this which goes against the official story on the first case which had no link to that market.

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Wuhan seafood market may not be source of novel virus spreading globally

The paper, written by a large group of Chinese researchers from several institutions, offers details about the first 41 hospitalized patients who had confirmed infections with what has been dubbed 2019 novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV). In the earliest case, the patient became ill on 1 December 2019 and had no reported link to the seafood market, the authors report. “No epidemiological link was found between the first patient and later cases,” they state. Their data also show that, in total, 13 of the 41 cases had no link to the marketplace. “ https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/01/wuhan-seafood-market-may-not-be-source-novel-virus-spreading-globally#

For some reason the Chinese government lied about this and tried to cover it up we can look at how they treated Dr Ai Fen who is head of ER at Wuhan hospital along with Dr Li Wenliang who tried to warn everyone as evidence of this.

It's not unprecedented for a virus to escape from a Chinese lab it happened 4 times with SARS virus in Beijing.

Of course the Virologists who say this is impossible for accidental release rely on government funding for their research, if it did escape from a lab the outrage would probably result in their government funding being reduced to unemployment benefits so I can see why they would deny this.

I think it's too early to rule out accidental release of this virus without a proper investigation it's just as plausible as evolving naturally from bats to an unknown species then to humans.

 

 

 

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21 minutes ago, Mohammed Bin Lyin said:

...The official story from the CCP is this virus came from a bat in that wet market. 2 Chinese scientists said bats were never sold in that market...

You don't have to eat them..the fuckers also bite... hopefully not on the dick when you're shopping at the market.

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5 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:

You don't have to eat them..the fuckers also bite.

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This virus didn't jump to humans directly from bats the official story says an unknown species was the intermediate host before virus evolved enough to infect humans.

With SARS the intermediate host was a civet or pangolin they still haven't made up their mind with MERS it was a Camel.

With no refrigeration I doubt these animals which could be the intermediate host would stay long enough in the wet market for this virus to have evolved to the point where it could infect humans. 

 

 

 

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56 minutes ago, Mohammed Bin Lyin said:

they still haven't made up their mind with MERS it was a Camel.

 

Was MERS a STD?

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13 minutes ago, The Dark Knight said:

Was MERS a STD?

Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS) is a Coronavirus. First case was a Jordanian diagnosed in Saudi Arabia in 2012.

Originated in bats then infected dromedary camels where it evolved then was able to infect humans.

 

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8 minutes ago, Mohammed Bin Lyin said:

Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS) is a Coronavirus. First case was a Jordanian diagnosed in Saudi Arabia in 2012.

Originated in bats then infected dromedary camels where it evolved then was able to infect humans.

 

so was it a STD?

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On 4/7/2020 at 11:30 AM, LionessRacing said:

Too many to count floating about, but the general themes are:

  • Attribution to the Wuhan Wet market and various fauna
  • Attribution to the Wuhan Wet market and a patient Zero who had contracted it elsewhere
    • Only level 4 Biosafety lab in China in Wuhan, 
    • Apparently the known species of "Horse shoe Bat" was being studied in Wuhan lab, but is not indigenous to the area 
  • Attribution to the Wuhan Lab as a deliberate release 
  • Attribution to any of the above and the CCP suppressing the knowledge and strong arming WHO
  • Deliberate timing of release to coincide with Lunar Near Year and returning Diaspora visitors
  • US engineering virus and releasing at Wuhan for cover

After you get past the origin theories: there's a whole set of themes related to the local identification and reactions to it...

  • Bioweapon engineers in Wuhan created the virus to specifically target non-Chinese people so China can take over the world.
    • Proof of selective effectiveness can be found in low number of infections and deaths in China.
  • Release was timed with USA election campaign because of rallies.

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Too bad China is an export economy. Killing your customers isn't exactly good business.

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On 4/8/2020 at 10:43 AM, MR.CLEAN said:

Thanks A and glad you are busy.  We have to talk about DF soon.  They want to open a factory in partnership with one of my clients.

 

OF COURSE you are!  

That explains your high level trust of the Wuhan Virus numbers coming out of China!  Much like the NBA ("Our socialist brothers in China are treating everyone in Hong Kong with great respect!" Can you schedule another few hundred bball games now?) or Nike..  Dong Feng is, of course, owned by our freedom loving brother Xi and the Chinese Government.

Good luck getting your factory open with a Chinese company if you are slagging them on the Internets!

 

All makes perfect sense now........

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20 hours ago, The Dark Knight said:
20 hours ago, Mohammed Bin Lyin said:

Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS) is a Coronavirus. First case was a Jordanian diagnosed in Saudi Arabia in 2012.

Originated in bats then infected dromedary camels where it evolved then was able to infect humans.

 

so was it a STD?

 

I don't know, it could be I can't rule it out. 

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Camels banned from Saudi beauty contest over Botox

Twelve prized camels have been disqualified from a beauty contest in Saudi Arabia after their owners tried to tweak their good looks with Botox.

Thousands of camels are paraded at the King Abdulaziz Camel Festival to be judged on their shapely lips and humps.

But judges stepped in when they discovered some owners had cheated in a bid to win the cash prizes.

The festival, which also features camel racing and camel milk tasting, has combined prize money of $57m (£40m).

Ali Al Mazrouei, the son of a top Emirati breeder, said Botox was used for the lips, the nose and even the jaw, news website   https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-42802901

 

Under Islamic law they stone you to death for adultery, there is no verse in the Quran on this I wonder what happened to it. For the bit about breastfeeding an adult 10 times perhaps you should google breastfeeding fatwa.

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“The Verse of stoning and of breastfeeding an adult ten times was revealed1, and the paper was with me under my pillow. When the Messenger of Allah died, we were preoccupied with his death, and a tame sheep came in and ate it.”

 

For consenting sex outside of marriage Allah the most merciful of those who show mercy says you should be flogged 100 times.

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The [unmarried] woman or [unmarried] man found guilty of sexual intercourse - lash each one of them with a hundred lashes, and do not be taken by pity for them in the religion of Allah, if you should believe in Allah and the Last Day. And let a group of the believers witness their punishment.  https://quran.com/24/2

 

Since masturbation is haram it looks like sex with animals has the least punishment with the religion of superior morality. It makes you wonder why goatfucking is so common in some places when you consider the consequences.

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Chapter: One who has intercourse with an animal

There is no prescribed punishment for one who has sexual intercourse with an animal.  https://sunnah.com/abudawud/40/115

 

I should remind people you're not allowed to fuck a pig even muslims draw the line somewhere.

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Allah speaking- Prohibited to you are dead animals, blood, the flesh of swine,

  This day I have perfected for you your religion and completed My favor upon you and have approved for you Islam as religion.

https://quran.com/5/3

 

There you go Allah says he has perfected Islam ask any muslim they will agree Islam is perfect. What other religions allow you to bash your wife and fuck your pet goat ?

 

 

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19 hours ago, apophenia said:

Too bad China is an export economy. Killing your customers isn't exactly good business.

Why bother worrying about selling a product when you just move in and take over everything your now-dead customers left behind?

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On 4/9/2020 at 12:50 AM, jack_sparrow said:

- I know China pretty well, love their wet market culture.
-I have never been to that market in Wuhan but with thousands of stall holders spread over as far as you can see I can guarantee you there is shit being sold there you would think bat is a delicacy.

Here’s a long, not terribly well written, yet interesting article on the largest wild fauna (“bushmeat”) market in Ghana.  Graphic descriptions of what’s sold there.  Guaranteed to make you wretch.  Grasscutter rat scraped out stomach contents are a key stew flavouring.  (Remember Ebola?) https://mosaicscience.com/story/bushmeat-ghana/

More inter species virus transmission is just waiting to happen in the future: http://m.nautil.us/issue/83/intelligence/the-man-who-saw-the-pandemic-coming

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9 hours ago, Jules said:

Why bother worrying about selling a product when you just move in and take over everything your now-dead customers left behind?

Good point - Xi is a neo-Maoist, so he might just be crazy enough to try something like that.

If you don't mind reading an action movie (spoiler: there is tank drifting), Wolf Warrior 2 is at it's core a conspiracy movie. It is also interesting as one director's opinion on how China might occupy it's place on the world stage.

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George Webb & Dr. Paul Cottrell talk follow the money and motives...

So who does hold a patent for Glycoprotein gp120?

https://patents.justia.com/inventor/anthony-s-fauci
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1569255803310410


Next... let's go and beat the living sh#t out of the Chinese people.... yep... that should do it nicely!

[sfx HYSTERICAL LAUGHTER]

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I don't want to give traffic to anyone who peddles misinformation, but I have been seeing falun gong (kinda like the Chinese equivalent of scientologists) propaganda shooting through the roof recently 

Most of the really out there stories about China (the hordes of burial urns story for instance and anything on epoch times) are created by Western falun gong members as part of a decades long psyop to discredit the Chinese government. (Which is kind of understandable as they do get persecuted in China)

Basically the point im trying to make is that:

- the western mainstream media spreads lies about China

- the western "alternate" media spreads lies about China

- the Chinese media spreads lies about China

- the American government spreads lies about China

- the Chinese government spreads lies about China

As someone who has done quite a bit of business in China I can pretty much say that you can try to triangulate what is actually happening at any given time by looking at multiple sources and considering what they each have to gain from the narrative they are pushing, but anyone who is honest with themselves should be ready to admit that "who knows what the fuck exactly happened or should have happened or would have happened"

I know this is going to blow the minds of some of you Fox news watchers, but the world is not divided into "good guys" and "bad guys" even when governments are concerned. 

When I see these narratives being pushed vilifying China or saying "they will pay"  I see a pretty clear example of a demagogue searching for an "other" to cast as a villian.  It's a tale as old as time and the American appitite for an "other" knows no bounds.  (Pours our out for my dead gay homies that got blamed for provoking gods wrath Everytime a hurricane hit Florida.)

Whenever I run across a conspiracy theory I always ask myself who is the "other" and how is power being consolidated by building a narrative against them.

 

 

 

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On 4/8/2020 at 1:03 PM, apophenia said:

Absolutely true. Neal Stephenson wrote an expose back in the early '90s. Unfortunately, you have to talk to Neal's buddy Jeff who runs an obscure bookstore up in Seattle to get yourself a copy, its existence has been suppressed by the powers that be everywhere else!

Damn, my laptop's getting short of breath.

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On 4/8/2020 at 8:23 AM, d'ranger said:

Is there any truth to the covid-19 virus migrating from human to human to human to computer? Is it possible this is the latest pc pandemic that will shut down the global internets?  I was told it was being precipitated by pornhub.com being free and so many people masturbating on their laptops and phones. 

Asking for a friend.

Wasn’t Pornhub the company with 1000’s of n95 masks? :o

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On 4/8/2020 at 1:03 PM, apophenia said:

Absolutely true. Neal Stephenson wrote an expose back in the early '90s. Unfortunately, you have to talk to Neal's buddy Jeff who runs an obscure bookstore up in Seattle to get yourself a copy, its existence has been suppressed by the powers that be everywhere else!

And Neal actually wrote ‘Pushing Ice’! :o

Al Reynolds wrote ‘Accelerando’! ;)
 

I’m not Charles Stross!

Greg Egan sails NS14s, not Moths!  ;)

Which isn’t true?  (Check one!).  Which one is true?

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27 minutes ago, Marinatrix447 said:

Eeny...Meeny... Miny...Moe...

https://www.bitchute.com/video/HxVkwUEXc0FY

 

 

 

67 subscribers! :lol::lol:
 

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BitChute is a video hosting service founded in 2017. It was created to allow video uploaders to avoid content rules enforced on other platforms, such as YouTube. ... Some creators who have been banned or had their channels barred from receiving advertising revenue ("demonetized") on YouTube have migrated to BitChute.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, mad said:

67 subscribers! :lol::lol:
 

 

 

see description of video

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15 minutes ago, MR.CLEAN said:

see description of video

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I don’t waste much time listening to her style of batshit crazy, there’s too much everywhere else already. 
 

It’s a right wing cesspool!!

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Ivanka in an attempt to discover how many calories there are in 'light' salad dressing, knocked over Dr. Fauci's test tubes. 

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16 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:

This on the Wuhan lab theory.

 

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That’s very fuckin interesting but I don’t fuckin believe it 

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29 minutes ago, 44forty said:

That’s very fuckin interesting but I don’t fuckin believe it 

Shit you are hard to please.. I was about to add the Lab is named the Grassy Knoll.

OK what about Lee Harvey and the "single perch" theory then??

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40 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:

Shit you are hard to please.. I was about to add the Lab is named the Grassy Knoll.

OK what about Lee Harvey and the "single perch" theory then??

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Yeah I’m going for the perch theory . Plus he looks like a dodgy little cnut that seals it for me 

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Wait is that head photoshopped ? Hmmm fuckin hell ....maybe it wasn’t lee after all . Well not Lee Harvey , maybe it was Lee kum kee 

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6 minutes ago, 44forty said:

Yeah I’m going for the perch theory . Plus he looks like a dodgy little cnut that seals it for me 

Zoooommm

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2 hours ago, jack_sparrow said:

This on the Wuhan lab theory.

 

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1 hour ago, 44forty said:

That’s very fuckin interesting but I don’t fuckin believe it 

So 44 you say "..but I don’t fuckin believe it."

So the Orangeman is lying??? ....from 0.40.

 

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I’m not going there jack . We will end calling each other cnuts and I will have to prove my boat is faster than yours 

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1 hour ago, 44forty said:

Yeah I’m going for the perch theory . Plus he looks like a dodgy little cnut that seals it for me 

 

1 hour ago, jack_sparrow said:

Zoooommm

 

11 minutes ago, 44forty said:

I’m not going there jack . We will end calling each other cnuts and I will have to prove my boat is faster than yours 

Now make that 

Zzzzzzzzzooooooooooommmmmmm

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Oh,  donnies endorsing alcohol now.......desperate times an all that

PGA's own John Daly recommends............. a bottle of Belvedere a day. :rolleyes:

Guaranteed to keep the covid at bay......

From the Guardian,

 

A big thank you to @PGA_JohnDaly who has always been one of our biggest fans. John thank you for the friendship. Everyone at @TrumpGolf truly loves you! #StaySafe #AmericaTogether

 
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