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It's not a crime if the president does it. Seriously, you need to relax, it's not like Trump is wearing a tan suit.

The reality is such news will have zero impact on the base, and zero impact on the McConnell Cabal. A sad state of affairs, it is.

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Donnie and his family will steal until they can no longer, then they will spend the next 20 years having their lawyers defend them with obstructionist bullshit. What they have not anticipated perhaps is the US Govt legal system absent a corrupt protectionist head like Barr has the financial and moral legs to continue where many private individuals have simply given up having spent too much money seeking recourse.

Its Donnies version of winning, I do hope he and his progeny are in jail and peniless when this all comes to pass, somehow I doubt it.

 

 

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42 minutes ago, Remodel said:

Surprise, surprise, surprise...

Trump Organization Seeking Aid From U.K., Ireland For Golf Resorts

Donald Trump’s dual roles as a president and a private businessman with his hand out to foreign governments raise ethics concerns.

His supporters don't give a shit.  And anyone who does give a shit, could pursue it with any legal action being completely ignored by the Administration.  And still his supporters wouldn't give a shit.

We're simply going to have to wait this out until we can get somebody else in there. 

And this is where I get lectured on Biden.  Can't wait.

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I am most likely being naive on this matter, but Trump's "Fortune" is largely based on debt. So he is kind of rich but not really wealthy. Is it possible that someone who is actually really filthy rich could just buy the whole Trump racket out and fire Donald and the family? :)

Then he/them could start concentrating and working on the matters at hand, yes?

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30 minutes ago, Grog said:

I am most likely being naive on this matter, but Trump's "Fortune" is largely based on debt. So he is kind of rich but not really wealthy. Is it possible that someone who is actually really filthy rich could just buy the whole Trump racket out and fire Donald and the family? :)

Then he/them could start concentrating and working on the matters at hand, yes?

In principle but too late for that now. What you're basically proposing is the Baby Doc solution.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Claude_Duvalier#Departure 

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11 minutes ago, Olsonist said:

In principle but too late for that now. What you're basically proposing is the Baby Doc solution.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Claude_Duvalier#Departure 

I did not know that about Baby Doc, but I have read it up (Thanks for the link).

Actually, most likely still being naive, I was thinking of less moves, as in taking away the private business in one swift strike and force him/them to concentrate on the insane mess he/them have created. If they keep failing, fire them.

After that, retirement without benefits and certainly without any "luxuries".

#getahaircut #getarealjob

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43 minutes ago, Grog said:

I did not know that about Baby Doc, but I have read it up (Thanks for the link).

Actually, most likely still being naive, I was thinking of less moves, as in taking away the private business in one swift strike and force him/them to concentrate on the insane mess he/them have created. If they keep failing, fire them.

After that, retirement without benefits and certainly without any "luxuries".

#getahaircut #getarealjob

No, there's no way to simply confiscate his businesses. Shitstain's private businesses are his property.

We have a Constitutional mechanism, impeachment in the House and trial in the Senate, for removing people from office. It doesn't require a crime; indeed Presidents are largely immune from criminal prosecution while in office. (Not the worst idea; think of Caesar's consular immunity that he wanted extended before he returned from Gaul; Caesar only invaded Rome to avoid lawsuits.) That is our mechanism but it relies on people to do the right thing instead of the Right thing. Republicans have shown they will back him regardless of anything. Remember, Republicans voted for him full well knowing at least half of what we now know. At a certain point, a point now long past, you have to blame them.

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Why no response from the bullshitters? Still waiting on updated talking points?

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Try this on.....Trump Tirmberry is owned  by Trump SLC, a Scottish Limited Company. Why would they not be eligible and deserving?.

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9 minutes ago, warbird said:

Try this on.....Trump Tirmberry is owned  by Trump SLC, a Scottish Limited Company. Why would they not be eligible and deserving?.

Why doesn't Trump just order a bunch of military personnel to stay there?

It worked last time

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15 minutes ago, warbird said:

Try this on.....Trump Tirmberry is owned  by Trump SLC, a Scottish Limited Company. Why would they not be eligible and deserving?.

That is for the UK to determine. However, your boy Shitstain didn't divest his interests. So asking a foreign govmint for a bailout could be considered a violation of the emoluments clause. Not by you, of course, but by normal people.

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5 hours ago, Remodel said:

Surprise, surprise, surprise...

Trump Organization Seeking Aid From U.K., Ireland For Golf Resorts

Donald Trump’s dual roles as a president and a private businessman with his hand out to foreign governments raise ethics concerns among people that hate him anyway. Republicans could not possibly care less.

Sorry, but your post needed some fixing.

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I just love it when the lefties get their undies in a bundle....

 

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6 hours ago, benwynn said:

His supporters don't give a shit. 

 

21 minutes ago, warbird said:

I just love it when the lefties get their undies in a bundle....

 

QED

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12 hours ago, warbird said:

Try this on.....Trump Tirmberry is owned  by Trump SLC, a Scottish Limited Company. Why would they not be eligible and deserving?.

I love it when morons try to use logic. Trump SLC is by definition a company under the Trump umbrella. Any benefit paid by a foreign power to that organization is a benefit to the whole. Unfortunately for the workers there, the very fact that Trump owns it, (or at least the mortgage) coupled with the fact that he didn't divest or put his holdings into a blind trust makes the property neither eligible or deserving.

 

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On 4/26/2020 at 2:59 PM, Grog said:

I am most likely being naive on this matter, but Trump's "Fortune" is largely based on debt. So he is kind of rich but not really wealthy. Is it possible that someone who is actually really filthy rich could just buy the whole Trump racket out and fire Donald and the family? :)

Then he/them could start concentrating and working on the matters at hand, yes?

 

Possible yes, but why would a really wealthy (smart) person buy a business that is run in such a way as to make little real profit relative to other available successful going concerns.....

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10 hours ago, Remodel said:

I love it when morons try to use logic. Trump SLC is by definition a company under the Trump umbrella. Any benefit paid by a foreign power to that organization is a benefit to the whole. Unfortunately for the workers there, the very fact that Trump owns it, (or at least the mortgage) coupled with the fact that he didn't divest or put his holdings into a blind trust makes the property neither eligible or deserving.

 

Trump SLC is not making a profit/loss or receiving an "aid" because Donald Trump is your president.  Trump SLC is making a profit/loss or recieving aid because it os a bisimess entity .

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The Scottish government is opening an investigation into Trump's Scottish property developments under the "unexplained wealth" anti-money laundering laws.

Trump's "investors" must be choking on their vodka and caviar blinis.

 

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8 minutes ago, Happy said:

The Scottish government is opening an investigation into Trump's Scottish property developments under the "unexplained wealth" anti-money laundering laws.

Trump's "investors" must be choking on their vodka and caviar blinis.

 

Are you suggesting that governments are trying to govern?

Keep your thoughts down under.  Here in the free world it is money that makes the law.

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22 hours ago, Mid said:

 

QED

What are the chances that Warbird is up on Latin-based abbreviations? Asking for a friend.

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1 minute ago, Bristol-Cruiser said:

What are the chances that Warbird is up on Latin-based abbreviations? Asking for a friend.

Google is his friend

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2 minutes ago, jerseyguy said:

Google is his friend

If he spell 'QED'

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"Emoluments" sounds so much better than bare-faced corrupt fucking grifting, conning, and theft. 

To be fair, the really big money has been from shorting the market a few minutes pre-Presidential tweet, which has nothing to do with Trump properties. 

It's good to be the King.....

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12 hours ago, billy backstay said:

 

Possible yes, but why would a really wealthy (smart) person buy a business that is run in such a way as to make little real profit relative to other available successful going concerns.....

In this special case: to shut it down and fire DJT.

"Really wealthy" in this case translates in "money to burn". And it would be for a good cause, so why waste it with gambling or super yachts? =)

... ok, a bit stupid from my part, I know. But hey! Anarchy!

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On 4/27/2020 at 4:04 PM, warbird said:

Trump SLC is not making a profit/loss or receiving an "aid" because Donald Trump is your president.  Trump SLC is making a profit/loss or recieving aid because it os a bisimess entity .

The constitution prohibits this. Period. Besides, your hero is a billionaire right? He should be able to pay his staff without help from a foreign government.

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Grifter in Chief -


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/state-department-signals-it-will-keep-most-details-of-its-spending-at-trumps-properties-hidden-until-after-election/2020/10/16/83372f30-0f21-11eb-8074-0e943a91bf08_story.html

State Department signals it will keep most details of its spending at Trump’s properties hidden until after election

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The State Department says it has about 450 pages of records showing government spending at President Trump’s properties. But this week, it signaled that it plans to release only two of those pages before the November election — leaving voters in the dark about the full scope of taxpayer payments to the president’s company. The State Department announced the decision to release just the two pages late Thursday in an email to The Post, which had filed a public-records lawsuit earlier this year, seeking any records showing State Department payments to Trump properties. The State Department pays for hotel rooms and other expenses when foreign leaders visit Trump properties, and when federal employees, such as Secret Service agents, follow Trump and his family to the president’s overseas clubs. But it’s impossible to tell how much the department has spent in total, because it has released detailed records for only the first few months of Trump’s presidency. The Post’s lawsuit asked for a fuller accounting, requesting records of those payments over several years of Trump’s term. In response, the State Department had said in a legal filing it would try to release up to 300 pages of the remaining records on Thursday. Instead, it sent the two pages — the receipts of a single hotel bill from Trump’s Irish golf course, involving security for Trump’s daughter-in-law and campaign adviser Lara Trump.

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On 4/29/2020 at 5:24 AM, Remodel said:

The constitution prohibits this. Period. Besides, your hero is a billionaire right? He should be able to pay his staff without help from a foreign government.

You are a fucking moron....  The constitution does not adress this.

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2 hours ago, Sean said:

Grifter in Chief -


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/state-department-signals-it-will-keep-most-details-of-its-spending-at-trumps-properties-hidden-until-after-election/2020/10/16/83372f30-0f21-11eb-8074-0e943a91bf08_story.html

State Department signals it will keep most details of its spending at Trump’s properties hidden until after election

Excerpt -

The State Department says it has about 450 pages of records showing government spending at President Trump’s properties. But this week, it signaled that it plans to release only two of those pages before the November election — leaving voters in the dark about the full scope of taxpayer payments to the president’s company. The State Department announced the decision to release just the two pages late Thursday in an email to The Post, which had filed a public-records lawsuit earlier this year, seeking any records showing State Department payments to Trump properties. The State Department pays for hotel rooms and other expenses when foreign leaders visit Trump properties, and when federal employees, such as Secret Service agents, follow Trump and his family to the president’s overseas clubs. But it’s impossible to tell how much the department has spent in total, because it has released detailed records for only the first few months of Trump’s presidency. The Post’s lawsuit asked for a fuller accounting, requesting records of those payments over several years of Trump’s term. In response, the State Department had said in a legal filing it would try to release up to 300 pages of the remaining records on Thursday. Instead, it sent the two pages — the receipts of a single hotel bill from Trump’s Irish golf course, involving security for Trump’s daughter-in-law and campaign adviser Lara Trump.

You, another fucking moron heard from....

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Birdman seems to have a snootful of Brandy Old Fashioneds, the state drink of Wisconsin. 

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4 minutes ago, warbird said:

You, another fucking moron heard from....

The perspicacious wisdom of the Reich on full display . .

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3 hours ago, Sean said:

Grifter in Chief -


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/state-department-signals-it-will-keep-most-details-of-its-spending-at-trumps-properties-hidden-until-after-election/2020/10/16/83372f30-0f21-11eb-8074-0e943a91bf08_story.html

State Department signals it will keep most details of its spending at Trump’s properties hidden until after election

Excerpt -

The State Department says it has about 450 pages of records showing government spending at President Trump’s properties. But this week, it signaled that it plans to release only two of those pages before the November election — leaving voters in the dark about the full scope of taxpayer payments to the president’s company. The State Department announced the decision to release just the two pages late Thursday in an email to The Post, which had filed a public-records lawsuit earlier this year, seeking any records showing State Department payments to Trump properties. The State Department pays for hotel rooms and other expenses when foreign leaders visit Trump properties, and when federal employees, such as Secret Service agents, follow Trump and his family to the president’s overseas clubs. But it’s impossible to tell how much the department has spent in total, because it has released detailed records for only the first few months of Trump’s presidency. The Post’s lawsuit asked for a fuller accounting, requesting records of those payments over several years of Trump’s term. In response, the State Department had said in a legal filing it would try to release up to 300 pages of the remaining records on Thursday. Instead, it sent the two pages — the receipts of a single hotel bill from Trump’s Irish golf course, involving security for Trump’s daughter-in-law and campaign adviser Lara Trump.

David Fahrenthold has an update.

David Fahrenthold 
· 
Oct 16, 2020 
NEW: The @statedept says it has 450 pages of records showing government payments to @realdonaldtrump's businesses. 

But it's only going to release 2 pages before the election. 

State Department signals it will keep most details of its spending at Trump’s properties hidden... 
washingtonpost.com 
https://t.co/MZEDRtk99D?amp=1 

David Fahrenthold 
@Fahrenthold 
Here's what we *do* know: the Trump administration has spent $1.2 million+ in taxpayer money at @realdonaldtrump's businesses. 

And Trump's business did not keep a promise to charge the govt "like $50" for rooms. Their rates went as high as $650/night. 

Trump’s children brought Secret Service money to the family business with their visits, records show 
washingtonpost.com 

NEW: the Post’s lawyers just filed this motion, asking a judge to make @StateDept release more of the 448 pages of records it’s holding back. (Which show hidden government payments to @realdonaldtrump’s businesses)

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On 10/16/2020 at 9:27 PM, warbird said:

You are a fucking moron....  The constitution does not adress this.

You are the fucking moron. Article 1, Section nine specifically states:

No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.

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Supreme Court ends Trump emoluments lawsuits

The Supreme Court on Monday brought an end to lawsuits over whether Donald Trump illegally profited off his presidency, saying the cases are moot now that Trump is no longer in office.

The high court's action was the first in an expected steady stream of orders and rulings on pending lawsuits involving Trump now that his presidency has ended. Some orders may result in dismissals of cases since Trump is no longer president. In other cases, proceedings that had been delayed because Trump was in the White House could resume and their pace even quicken.

 

 

Watch the Faithful (incorrectly) claim this is a complete exoneration.

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53 minutes ago, Bus Driver said:

Supreme Court ends Trump emoluments lawsuits

Some "originalism" ya got there SCOTUS !! 

Ignoring what the constitution clearly states, they blew up yet another key part of the Doc. 

The cowards won't even give us a break-down of the vote - cannot believe it was unanimous. 

No comment or dissent - buncha cowards, all of them. 

And also "Some rule of law you have there!!" 

Grrrrrrr

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14 hours ago, Bus Driver said:

Supreme Court ends Trump emoluments lawsuits

The Supreme Court on Monday brought an end to lawsuits over whether Donald Trump illegally profited off his presidency, saying the cases are moot now that Trump is no longer in office.

The high court's action was the first in an expected steady stream of orders and rulings on pending lawsuits involving Trump now that his presidency has ended. Some orders may result in dismissals of cases since Trump is no longer president. In other cases, proceedings that had been delayed because Trump was in the White House could resume and their pace even quicken.

 

 

Watch the Faithful (incorrectly) claim this is a complete exoneration.

Mentioned on scotusblog too

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The Supreme Court vacated the lower courts’ decisions in a pair of cases involving allegations that, as president, Trump received benefits from the hotels and restaurants that he owns, in violation of two anti-corruption provisions of the Constitution known as the emoluments clauses. In one case, Trump v. Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 2nd Circuit allowed a lawsuit by competitors in the hospitality industry to go forward, rejecting Trump’s arguments that the competitors’ alleged injuries did not give them a legal right to sue. Represented by the Department of Justice, Trump filed a petition for review in September, asking the justices to hear oral argument and weigh in on whether the lawsuit could go forward. But by late December, when the petition was first distributed for the justices’ conference in early January, Trump had less than a month remaining in his term as president. In his reply brief, then-Acting Solicitor General Jeffrey Wall argued that the justices should wait to act on Trump’s petition until after the inauguration and then vacate the 2nd Circuit’s ruling with instructions to dismiss the case as moot so that it would not serve as precedent for future cases – a move known as Munsingwear vacatur.

We've seen this Munsingwear move before.

On 10/17/2018 at 5:10 AM, Pedagogical Tom said:

It's called Munsingwear Vacatur and it's not just something that sounds like it might require diapers.

 

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I knew I could count on you to let us know of your superior knowledge by quoting yourself. 

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4 minutes ago, Bus Driver said:

I knew I could count on you to let us know of your superior knowledge by quoting yourself. 

Hey, I did a search and quoted everyone who has mentioned Munsingwear on this forum. Can't help that it's a short list.

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20 hours ago, Bus Driver said:

Supreme Court ends Trump emoluments lawsuits

The Supreme Court on Monday brought an end to lawsuits over whether Donald Trump illegally profited off his presidency, saying the cases are moot now that Trump is no longer in office.

The high court's action was the first in an expected steady stream of orders and rulings on pending lawsuits involving Trump now that his presidency has ended. Some orders may result in dismissals of cases since Trump is no longer president. In other cases, proceedings that had been delayed because Trump was in the White House could resume and their pace even quicken.

 

 

Watch the Faithful (incorrectly) claim this is a complete exoneration.

 

So in layman's terms he at least just got away with picking someone's pocket on 5th Ave.

The same seems to be true for killing 5th Ave. guy and over 400,000 of his fellow citizens ...

High hopes for holding HWSNBM resposible for that Capitol gig now, right? Right.

 

This is getting depressing.

 

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31 minutes ago, Grog said:

 

So in layman's terms he at least just got away with picking someone's pocket on 5th Ave.

The same seems to be true for killing 5th Ave. guy and over 400,000 of his fellow citizens ...

High hopes for holding HWSNBM resposible for that Capitol gig now, right? Right.

 

This is getting depressing.

 

Can anybody remind me how those checks and balances are supposed to work again??:wacko:

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Moot, so he gets to keep his ill gotten gains. Got it.

Sends a strong message to the crooks in Washington doesn’t it.

Checks and balances are for the little people.

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1 hour ago, mad said:

Can anybody remind me how those checks and balances are supposed to work again??:wacko:

Apparently they don't. So much for the Constitution, now an empty promise. 

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9 minutes ago, Ishmael said:
1 hour ago, mad said:

Can anybody remind me how those checks and balances are supposed to work again??:wacko:

Apparently they don't. So much for the Constitution, now an empty promise. 

To be fair, when ~45% of the voters explicitly vote trashing the Constitution and ending democracy... presumably because democracy is almost the same thing, in their minds, as EVIL SOCIALISM... that is not something that can be forestalled by 'checks and balances.'

- DSK

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2 hours ago, Grog said:

 

So in layman's terms he at least just got away with picking someone's pocket on 5th Ave.

The same seems to be true for killing 5th Ave. guy and over 400,000 of his fellow citizens ...

High hopes for holding HWSNBM resposible for that Capitol gig now, right? Right.

 

This is getting depressing.

 

"Getting"?

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1 hour ago, Navig8tor said:

Moot, so he gets to keep his ill gotten gains. Got it.

Sends a strong message to the crooks in Washington doesn’t it.

Checks and balances are for the little people.

How to drain the swamp?

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Just now, Sidecar said:

How to drain the swamp?

If there is going to be an infrastructure bill just use some of the $$$$ and pave over the swamp.

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1 hour ago, mad said:

Can anybody remind me how those checks and balances are supposed to work again??:wacko:

I'll try:

They should work independently, unbiased and incorruptible, to lay the laws down on anyone, including the POTUS.

So far, the C&B seem to fall short, maybe because impeaching and indeed punishing a former President might hurt the authority of the following President.

But they should, they must, especially in the case of HWMNBM. Noone must be allowed to get away with the shit he has pulled off.

The US Presidency must be above some NYC small time grifter with a halfwit lawyer to cover up his deeds.

 

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2 minutes ago, Bus Driver said:

"Getting"?

Getting

... is fucking ...

 

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4 minutes ago, Grog said:

Getting

... is fucking ...

 

Could not agree more.

 

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Getting testy as your hero proves his stupity? Laughing....

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3 minutes ago, Ease the sheet. said:

how can a law be no longer relevant because a person has stopped breaking it?

He might have broken the law, but because he was president he couldn't be charged and now that he stopped breaking the law because he got fired, whatever he did before is ok. I guess he wasn't lying when he claimed he could do whatever he wanted.  

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8 minutes ago, Ease the sheet. said:

how can a law be no longer relevant because a person has stopped breaking it?

I am humoured by this  emoluments attack.  There seems to be a two pronged assault.  The Scotland resort and Mar Lago.  The Scotland resort charged ~$30 less per night than other hostelries and generally took only overflow. Is the emoluments? The Mar Lago establishment seem to be a "Go To' for Florida golf vacations, I haven't googled it.  When SS accompany the president, do you want them 10 or 20 or 50 miles away if the President is a Democrat?

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2 minutes ago, solosailor said:

Another turd for the bird.

High quality response, really, very, very good.  Full of content and facts.  Nice. 

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28 minutes ago, warbird said:

.... When SS accompany the president, do you want them 10 or 20 or 50 miles away if the President is a Democrat?

When the President goes to a property he owns, and charges the bodyguards hundreds of thousands of dollars to guard his ass, is that a good thing? Would it be, if that President were a Democrat?

Is everything answered along party lines?

- DSK

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41 minutes ago, warbird said:

I am humoured by this  emoluments attack.  There seems to be a two pronged assault.  The Scotland resort and Mar Lago.  The Scotland resort charged ~$30 less per night than other hostelries and generally took only overflow. Is the emoluments? The Mar Lago establishment seem to be a "Go To' for Florida golf vacations, I haven't googled it.  When SS accompany the president, do you want them 10 or 20 or 50 miles away if the President is a Democrat?

There's that hotel in DC that had the magically changing room rates.  Especially around the time of his Inauguration.  Multiple times their own published rate?  No biggie.

He soaked the US taxpayers for millions.  You seem to not care.

I am willing to bet you will find fault with President Biden, should he come even close to this kinda stuff.

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35 minutes ago, warbird said:

High quality response, really, very, very good.  Full of content and facts.  Nice. 

Classic. Wardodo spits out pages of right-wing myth and magic and now wants facts. 

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15 minutes ago, Steam Flyer said:

When the President goes to a property he owns, and charges the bodyguards hundreds of thousands of dollars to guard his ass, is that a good thing? Would it be, if that President were a Democrat?

Is everything answered along party lines?

- DSK

Was it the going Government rate?

 

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5 minutes ago, Bus Driver said:

There's that hotel in DC that had the magically changing room rates.  Especially around the time of his Inauguration.  Multiple times their own published rate?  No biggie.

He soaked the US taxpayers for millions.  You seem to not care.

I am willing to bet you will find fault with President Biden, should he come even close to this kinda stuff.

Was it the going Government rate?

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3 minutes ago, Ishmael said:

Classic. Wardodo spits out pages of right-wing myth and magic and now wants facts. 

What myth exactly?

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1 minute ago, warbird said:
5 minutes ago, Bus Driver said:

There's that hotel in DC that had the magically changing room rates.  Especially around the time of his Inauguration.  Multiple times their own published rate?  No biggie.

He soaked the US taxpayers for millions.  You seem to not care.

I am willing to bet you will find fault with President Biden, should he come even close to this kinda stuff.

Was it the going rate?

Reading is not your strong suit, is it?

Take your pick of sources.

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3 minutes ago, warbird said:
6 minutes ago, Bus Driver said:

Reading is not your strong suit, is it?

Take your pick of sources.

This is in your cite

Trump hotel looks to cash in on Biden inauguration - POLITICO

You are fucking kidding me, right?  You are complaining that Trump Inc gouges Biden supporters and you presume to do it with a straight face?

From that article - 

A check of the Trump International Hotel D.C.’s website indicates that the hotel demands a two-night minimum stay during the inauguration and has hiked its rates to $2,225 per night for Jan. 19 and 20, while a similar room runs in the $400 range during most of the rest of January.

Sounds like the Trump Hotel is continuing to overcharge.  And, you seem to think that fault somehow lands at the feet of the Biden Campaign.

The stoopid is strong in you.

 

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Personally, I like the first article, which clearly lays out the evidence warbird sought - 

The Trump Organization charged the Trump inaugural committee an abnormally high rate for blocks of rooms and suites in the hotel around the inauguration, netting Trump’s business almost six times the current average cost for the most basic rooms available in the hotel and eight times the current average cost for higher tiered rooms, according to documents released in a lawsuit this week. While it’s typical for Washington area hotels to charge guests more around a presidential inauguration, in this case, the exorbitant prices paid by the incoming president’s political supporters went into that president’s pocket.  

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1 minute ago, Bus Driver said:

From that article - 

A check of the Trump International Hotel D.C.’s website indicates that the hotel demands a two-night minimum stay during the inauguration and has hiked its rates to $2,225 per night for Jan. 19 and 20, while a similar room runs in the $400 range during most of the rest of January.

Sounds like the Trump Hotel is continuing to overcharge.  And, you seem to think that fault somehow lands at the feet of the Biden Campaign.

The stoopid is strong in you.

 

Are you fucking stOOpid?  Joe Biden supporters need to be gouged (up to the going rate) lest they for get the tenets of capitalism.:lol:

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3 minutes ago, Bus Driver said:

Personally, I like the first article, which clearly lays out the evidence warbird sought - 

The Trump Organization charged the Trump inaugural committee an abnormally high rate for blocks of rooms and suites in the hotel around the inauguration, netting Trump’s business almost six times the current average cost for the most basic rooms available in the hotel and eight times the current average cost for higher tiered rooms, according to documents released in a lawsuit this week. While it’s typical for Washington area hotels to charge guests more around a presidential inauguration, in this case, the exorbitant prices paid by the incoming president’s political supporters went into that president’s pocket.  

What was the going rate at the time? None of this having to do with emoluments mind you:lol:

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1 minute ago, warbird said:

Are you fucking stOOpid?  Joe Biden supporters need to be gouged (up to the going rate) lest they for get the tenets of capitalism.:lol:

You asked -

14 minutes ago, warbird said:

Was it the going Government rate?

It wasn't.  The Trump family has been gouging the US taxpayers for years.  Apparently, you are okay with that.

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1 minute ago, Bus Driver said:

You asked -

It wasn't.  The Trump family has been gouging the US taxpayers for years.  Apparently, you are okay with that.

Cites? Not Red Roof Inn compos please.

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1 minute ago, warbird said:
4 minutes ago, Bus Driver said:

Personally, I like the first article, which clearly lays out the evidence warbird sought - 

The Trump Organization charged the Trump inaugural committee an abnormally high rate for blocks of rooms and suites in the hotel around the inauguration, netting Trump’s business almost six times the current average cost for the most basic rooms available in the hotel and eight times the current average cost for higher tiered rooms, according to documents released in a lawsuit this week. While it’s typical for Washington area hotels to charge guests more around a presidential inauguration, in this case, the exorbitant prices paid by the incoming president’s political supporters went into that president’s pocket.  

What was the going rate at the time? None of this having to do with emoluments mind you:lol:

Try to connect the 4 bolded portions.  You can do it.

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Just now, warbird said:

Cites?

Asked for and provided.  Post #64.  There's a shitload of them.  Like, 6 million of them.

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3 minutes ago, Bus Driver said:
5 minutes ago, warbird said:

Cites?

Asked for and provided.  Post #64.  There's a shitload of them.  Like, 6 million of them.

Wardodo is the Dog of the short bus crowd. Boring to boot. Back on ignore. 

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3 minutes ago, Bus Driver said:

So, the Trump Family continues to gouge.  I'll bet you see that as admirable.

 

3 minutes ago, Bus Driver said:

So, the Trump Family continues to gouge.  I'll bet you see that as admirable.

Fuck the leftist commie stalinists in the rectum? Yes:lol:

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33 minutes ago, warbird said:

 

Fuck the leftist commie stalinists in the rectum? Yes:lol:

Your fixation with anal sex is duly noted.

Sorry, but this leftist ain't interested.

Surely, you'll find your soulmate.

 

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7 minutes ago, Bus Driver said:

Your fixation with anal sex is duly noted.

Sorry, but this leftist ain't interested.

Surely, you'll find your soulmate.

 

Nice response....

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4 minutes ago, warbird said:

Nice response....

No need to try and hide how you feel.  You openly talked about it.  That is a major step.

I hope you find that special someone.  Sounds like you need one.

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2 hours ago, Bus Driver said:

No need to try and hide how you feel.  You openly talked about it.  That is a major step.

I hope you find that special someone.  Sounds like you need one.

Blowing random guys in the truck stop for $5 is getting boring. 

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6 hours ago, warbird said:

I am humoured by this  emoluments attack.  There seems to be a two pronged assault.  The Scotland resort and Mar Lago.  The Scotland resort charged ~$30 less per night than other hostelries and generally took only overflow. Is the emoluments? The Mar Lago establishment seem to be a "Go To' for Florida golf vacations, I haven't googled it.  When SS accompany the president, do you want them 10 or 20 or 50 miles away if the President is a Democrat?

Do you believe Trump didn't make money for himself and his family by using the power of his office?

Yes or no?

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I would rather sleep in a car and dine at McDonalds than spend one lousy dollar at a Trump property.

If the only option was a cardboard bed under an overpass and dining at a dumpster, I'd stay at a Trump property. I'd steal the towels, shit the bed, and try to skip without paying.

It would be a metaphorical satire on his alleged "presidency".

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7 hours ago, SloopJonB said:

Do you believe Trump didn't make money for himself and his family by using the power of his office?

Yes or no?

No

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35 minutes ago, warbird said:
8 hours ago, SloopJonB said:

Do you believe Trump didn't make money for himself and his family by using the power of his office?

Yes or no?

No

Good to see you agree he and his family profited from the power of his office.

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On 1/25/2021 at 5:52 PM, AJ Oliver said:

The cowards won't even give us a break-down of the vote - cannot believe it was unanimous. 

No comment or dissent - buncha cowards, all of them. 

You gotta believe! Any Justice can dissent from such orders if they disagree. In the list of orders under discussion, Gorsuch, joined by Thomas, did that with respect to one order. No one objected to the emoluments orders.

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On 1/27/2021 at 6:35 AM, warbird said:

No

And you're O/K with that.

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On 1/27/2021 at 1:01 AM, Happy said:

I'd steal the towels, shit the bed, and try to skip without paying.

actually, so would I.

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