Help me out with some MORC History

[J Keeley 1]

We also owned Sunny Too. Creekmore 23. Very fast in light air. 

[LarryE 40]

1 hour ago, surf nazi said:

very cool. learned something new. thanks. what year was the 23 or 27 ? 

there was a 27 called tequesta, daggerboard, yellow boat.

it is here, with a large hole, laying in a field, victim of one of the hurricanes. forget which one.

[ROADKILL666 312]

4 hours ago, surf nazi said:

very cool. learned something new. thanks. what year was the 23 or 27 ? 

74-75

[ROADKILL666 312]

3 hours ago, J Keeley said:

We also owned Sunny Too. Creekmore 23. Very fast in light air. 

My dad built her in creekmores yard in medley fl with lees help

[Sisu3360 99]

Thanks everyone for the amazing response. I've made an inquiry on that Dolphin in NC. Amidst the plague and some work-related travel restrictions I'm not sure yet how I'd retrieve it if I buy it, but I'm sure I'll figure something out.

[ordkhntr 11]

On 6/25/2020 at 10:49 AM, sail69 said:

Not traditional...but always liked and respected the Ranger 26.   Did well in their time.   

I'd have to agree, although I may be a bit partial. I picked this shot of my because it really shows those lines.

[ROADKILL666 312]

18 hours ago, J Keeley said:

We also owned Sunny Too. Creekmore 23. Very fast in light air. 

Was your family the ones who moved the rudder?

[jww 8]

The 23 I raced on had a adjustable outboard rudder. Boat name was Witchcraft..

 

 

 

[LarryE 40]

21 hours ago, ROADKILL666 said:

My dad built  in creekmores yard in medley fl with lees help

there were 3 of the 23 ft. that i know of.

sunny too, vendetta and music. 

 

 

 

[K9u20 16]

I sailed Music in Ft Lauderdale a couple of times. It had a Star fractional rig on it then. There were two Creekmore 20’s sailing in Miami back then. I think they were made out of the 23 hull but I’m not sure. One was called Little David and one was called Papa Jack. There was also a Creekmore  27 called Spring  racing just after that time. 

[LarryE 40]

i sailed little David with sid doren and charlie fowler a couple of times.

i remember papa jack, but do not remember much. killed to many brain cells back then.

.hard to type with one hand, shoulder surgery.

[ROADKILL666 312]

17 hours ago, LarryE said:

there were 3 of the 23 ft. that i know of.

sunny too, vendetta and music. 

 

 

 

I want to say that 5 were built 

[J Keeley 1]

1 hour ago, ROADKILL666 said:

I want to say that 5 were built 

I also had Music. Sunny Too had a conventional rudder. Looked to be off a Wavelengths 24, and a double spreader B&R rig. Great boat. 

[ROADKILL666 312]

1 hour ago, J Keeley said:

I also had Music. Sunny Too had a conventional rudder. Looked to be off a Wavelengths 24, and a double spreader B&R rig. Great boat. 

I can’t remember it my dad moved the rudder or not but I do remember the rig swapI was mad as a hornet when he sold her.I told him I wanted the boat.

[J Keeley 1]

1 hour ago, ROADKILL666 said:

I can’t remember it my dad moved the rudder or not but I do remember the rig swapI was mad as a hornet when he sold her.I told him I wanted the boat.

We reluctantly sold it about 17 years ago. It was in Titusville. Have been looking for it for the past few years. Would love to have it back. Heard it was damaged in a hurricane.  

[ROADKILL666 312]

1 hour ago, J Keeley said:

We reluctantly sold it about 17 years ago. It was in Titusville. Have been looking for it for the past few years. Would love to have it back. Heard it was damaged in a hurricane.  

Keep me updated 

[Sisu3360 99]

I just put down a deposit on the Dolphin in North Carolina. Amidst all the uncertainty and some work/family obligations I'm not sure when/how I'll retrieve it, but I'm looking forward to owning it. I got to drive a Dolphin in a race last night, and was instantly sold. What a sweet boat! with the board up we were able to sail all the way back to our mooring field on a shallow river, while everyone else had to motor up the channel.

Thanks for all of the responses!

[Out West 15]

Nice, you'll put the current Anarchy Dolphin 24 fleet up to 4 current owners by my count. When I was looking, the older boats (ODay, Lunn) were more racing oriented, the later years / builders were more cruising focused. 

[Sisu3360 99]

2 hours ago, Out West said:

Nice, you'll put the current Anarchy Dolphin 24 fleet up to 4 current owners by my count. When I was looking, the older boats (ODay, Lunn) were more racing oriented, the later years / builders were more cruising focused. 

It's a 1970 Yankee, Hull 186. Not a huge fan of the interior layout - I think it tries to do too much - but the fundamentals of the boat are the same as the earlier hulls. The other boat in our fleet is an O'Day. Which one is yours?

[Out West 15]

23 hours ago, Sisu3360 said:

Which one is yours?

1961 #200, one of the earliest Lunn boats.  It has a pretty basic interior done by an early owner, Ron Noe, he also designed/built/raced a couple other sailboats (per google)  It's definitely built light, the foredeck flexes underfoot.  She was raced many years out east, leading to all sorts of tweaks I am still learning.  

[BravoBravo 666]

1977 MORC International Champion ~Class 4

4th in fleet

with one 1st in class ,first in fleet

Kiwi 24 with dagger-board and outboard rudder... 

[LarryE 40]

On 7/3/2020 at 5:06 PM, BravoBravo said:

1977 MORC International Champion ~Class 4

4th in fleet

with one 1st in class ,first in fleet

Kiwi 24 with dagger-board and outboard rudder... 

the boat was near my boat, on a mooring, at cgsc. real cool boat.

[nolatom 334]

Seafarer Meridian?

https://www.google.com/search?q=seafarer+meridian+photos&safe=strict&client=firefox-b-1-d&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=PS359OJXXxl4lM%2CArUaNTmyHDE8AM%2C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kS_xv7Ahul9Hq36j_KW30jrHv4_vw&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiuvu6rjrnqAhUORqwKHeHPBFsQ9QEwAXoECAoQEg&biw=1920&bih=966#imgrc=F-8fOlhn-RyorM

Or its bigger brother Rhodes Ranger.

Not real fast and they hobbyhorse in a chop, but overbuilt and the Meridian is old-school pretty.  The Ranger, same-0.

[Steam Flyer 4,850]

1 hour ago, nolatom said:

Seafarer Meridian?

https://www.google.com/search?q=seafarer+meridian+photos&safe=strict&client=firefox-b-1-d&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=PS359OJXXxl4lM%2CArUaNTmyHDE8AM%2C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kS_xv7Ahul9Hq36j_KW30jrHv4_vw&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiuvu6rjrnqAhUORqwKHeHPBFsQ9QEwAXoECAoQEg&biw=1920&bih=966#imgrc=F-8fOlhn-RyorM

Or its bigger brother Rhodes Ranger.

Not real fast and they hobbyhorse in a chop, but overbuilt and the Meridian is old-school pretty.  The Ranger, same-0.

Looks a good bit like a Pearson Ariel... I like the bug-eyed cabin windows (OK OK ports). They were pretty boats, graceful proportions.

I think these designs were styled to evoke the look of a gentleman's yacht of a previous generation, and their sailing abilities suffered. There were faster boats even back then.

FB- Doug

[GMiller 31]

On 7/1/2020 at 1:37 PM, Sisu3360 said:

I just put down a deposit on the Dolphin in North Carolina. Amidst all the uncertainty and some work/family obligations I'm not sure when/how I'll retrieve it, but I'm looking forward to owning it. I got to drive a Dolphin in a race last night, and was instantly sold. What a sweet boat! with the board up we were able to sail all the way back to our mooring field on a shallow river, while everyone else had to motor up the channel.

Thanks for all of the responses!

LMK if you need anything when you're down here. 

[Steam Flyer 4,850]

4 hours ago, GMiller said:

On 7/1/2020 at 1:37 PM, Sisu3360 said:

I just put down a deposit on the Dolphin in North Carolina. Amidst all the uncertainty and some work/family obligations I'm not sure when/how I'll retrieve it, but I'm looking forward to owning it. I got to drive a Dolphin in a race last night, and was instantly sold. What a sweet boat! with the board up we were able to sail all the way back to our mooring field on a shallow river, while everyone else had to motor up the channel.

Thanks for all of the responses!

LMK if you need anything when you're down here. 

Where is the boat now? I never saw the ad

FB- Doug

[guerdon 144]

Congratulations, you'll be surprised how well she sails with so little demands upon, and you.  I sailed on Trina, at. IHYC, and we won most of the trophies even though we we so. small that we always finished last and then corrected out.  Bill Shaw was so under rated as a designer.  She is like a baby B40

[GMiller 31]

15 hours ago, Steam Flyer said:

Where is the boat now? I never saw the ad

FB- Doug

On Highway 33 between Chocowinity and Grimesland NC.  

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.5358881,-77.1503338,18z

[Steam Flyer 4,850]

7 minutes ago, GMiller said:

15 hours ago, Steam Flyer said:

Where is the boat now? I never saw the ad

FB- Doug

On Highway 33 between Chocowinity and Grimesland NC.  

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.5358881,-77.1503338,18z

That's not far, let me know if I can lend a hand

FB- Doug

[Sisu3360 99]

Thanks folks. I'm planning to rent a 3/4T truck in a few weeks to go get it. The seller has been been very accommodating too. If things change and travel is restricted, I'll reach out.

[Zerodegrees 1]

There’s always a few old MORC boats around my place.  An Evelyn 26 or a G&S 25 one-off?  Even a Mod Kirby 30 or Evelyn 32 maybe.

[SloopJonB 8,061]

That's a pretty cool backyard ya got there.

[Peacefrog 25]

Is that G&S Cobra or MACE?  Great little boats at the time.

[@last 26]

4 hours ago, Peacefrog said:

Is that G&S Cobra or MACE?  Great little boats at the time.

My guess is MACE as the "recent USA tour" I think included stops in donation from St Marys out east before heading to Palatka, FL and South Florida after that?

[bridhb 499]

On 7/31/2020 at 10:54 AM, SloopJonB said:

That's a pretty cool backyard ya got there.

If I was younger, that is what my back yard would look like!

[Sisu3360 99]

All,

Thanks everyone for your comments on this thread. Yankee Dolphin #186 is home in Wisconsin. I have a bottom job ahead of me and then I can enjoy what's left of this sailing season. The page for 186 is updated on the Dolphin website, and I'll be submitting updates there as I restore the boat over the next few years: http://dolphin24.org/186.html.

I had seen the craigslist ad before it was posted here, but you guys caused me to get serious about it, buy it sight unseen, and concoct a cross-country roadtrip to go get it. The Dolphin is a special boat, and I was lucky to get it (someone offered the guy cash on the spot less than 24 hours after I put the deposit down).

Tom

[guerdon 144]

Sisu, try using silicon windshield calking from an auto parts store to stop the leaks in the ports, it's cheap and lasts several years.  Have fun.

 

 

 

 

[Sisu3360 99]

18 hours ago, guerdon said:

Sisu, try using silicon windshield calking from an auto parts store to stop the leaks in the ports, it's cheap and lasts several years.  Have fun.

 

 

 

 

Thanks @guerdon! Due to a rainstorm yesterday and the resultant puddles on the interior, I have determined it's coming from the hull/deck joint. Fortunately the joint itself seems fine, but a previous owner replaced the toerail and appears to have inadequately sealed the bolts. Fun stuff!

[guerdon 144]

Sisu, it will work there also, just mask carefully. and. remove. tape promptly.

[pasta514 14]

On 8/2/2020 at 3:30 PM, Sisu3360 said:

All,

Thanks everyone for your comments on this thread. Yankee Dolphin #186 is home in Wisconsin. I have a bottom job ahead of me and then I can enjoy what's left of this sailing season. The page for 186 is updated on the Dolphin website, and I'll be submitting updates there as I restore the boat over the next few years: http://dolphin24.org/186.html.

I had seen the craigslist ad before it was posted here, but you guys caused me to get serious about it, buy it sight unseen, and concoct a cross-country roadtrip to go get it. The Dolphin is a special boat, and I was lucky to get it (someone offered the guy cash on the spot less than 24 hours after I put the deposit down).

Tom

Glad to see the thread back on track

[Lucky Dog 21]

On 6/25/2020 at 2:29 PM, Sisu3360 said:

Yup. I’m kicking myself for missing out on one someone a few hours up the road wanted $900 for. If I find another at the right price I’ll take it. Ticks most of my requirements, but I’m open to other ideas within my criteria.

My dad had a person aerial it was a great boat. - once while towing the trailer detached for station wagon(442 engine). It went down the freeway on its tongue crashed thru the guardrail at stopped.  No damage at all except for the pot on the stove that fell down  It was our little secret I was told   

the passers by helped hook it up and off we went.  He added a bow sprit to help light air up wind.  It was a PHRF killer.    
mom never found out