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5 minutes ago, Movable Ballast said:

So you are saying Obama didn't get fined for campaign finance violations? 

He did, the Kenyan most certainly did.

The document outlined other violations, such as erroneous contribution dates on some campaign reports. The Obama campaign was also late returning some contributions that exceeded the legal limit.

https://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/obama-2008-campaign-fined-375000-085784

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From the NYTimes fact check

In January 2013, Mr. Obama’s 2008 campaign paid a $375,000 penalty to the Federal Election Commission, largely for failing to file “48-Hour Notices.” F.E.C. rules require campaigns to notify the commission of contributions totaling $1,000 or more within 48 hours of receiving them.

 

The Obama campaign was also cited for failing to refund some donors who had made excessive contributions in a timely manner, and for misreporting dates of contributions. 

These violations denied voters access to this information before Election Day, said Michael Malbin, the executive director of the Campaign Finance Institute. However, he said, they are not criminal offenses.

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4 minutes ago, Navig8tor said:

From the NYTimes fact check

In January 2013, Mr. Obama’s 2008 campaign paid a $375,000 penalty to the Federal Election Commission, largely for failing to file “48-Hour Notices.” F.E.C. rules require campaigns to notify the commission of contributions totaling $1,000 or more within 48 hours of receiving them.

 

The Obama campaign was also cited for failing to refund some donors who had made excessive contributions in a timely manner, and for misreporting dates of contributions. 

These violations denied voters access to this information before Election Day, said Michael Malbin, the executive director of the Campaign Finance Institute. However, he said, they are not criminal offenses.

NYT fact check! And you give shit about my sources! that's just too rich... 

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14 hours ago, Navig8tor said:

This is fast turning into a major fuckup

he sent out 1.4 Billion in stimulus checks to dead people.

Trump administration sent $1.4bn in stimulus checks to dead people

US Government Accountability Office said almost 1.1 million dead people received payments of about $1,200 each

Martin Pengelly in New York

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Steve Mnuchin shows Donald Trump a pre-paid debit card to distribute coronavirus aid during a meeting at the White House on 19 May.

The Trump administration sent almost $1.4bn in coronavirus stimulus payments to dead people, according to its own watchdog’s report.

In the report released on Thursday, the US Government Accountability Office (USGAO) said almost 1.1 million dead people received payments of about $1,200 each, as of 30 April.

The payments were part of about $3tn in economic relief approved by Congress in March and April.

The need for help remains: on Thursday it was revealed that another 1.48 million Americans filed for unemployment assistance last week, bringing the total since the pandemic began to about 47 million.

Donald Trump is in favor of further relief payments. But the president is out of step with many Republicans in Congress, who may seize on reports of bureaucratic dysfunction to block new moves.

 

 

Fuck, I'm still fogging a mirror and I didn't get my damn stimulus check.  :angry:

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18 minutes ago, Movable Ballast said:

So you are saying Obama didn't get fined for campaign finance violations? 

No, he did not.  Read the shitty article you cited and quote where it says Obama was fined.  

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Just now, Cal20sailor said:

No, he did not.  Read the shitty article you cited and quote where it says Obama was fined.  

Ha! really... OK I'll just leave this here... 

 

13 minutes ago, Olsonist said:

He did, the Kenyan most certainly did.

The document outlined other violations, such as erroneous contribution dates on some campaign reports. The Obama campaign was also late returning some contributions that exceeded the legal limit.

https://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/obama-2008-campaign-fined-375000-085784

 

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Just now, Movable Ballast said:

NYT fact check! And you give shit about my sources! that's just too rich... 

What's wrong with the NYT?  I find them to be very credible.  At least they do a decent job of keeping their news and opinion pretty well separated by a firewall.

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Another thread that takes something completely out of context.   I expect Trump will lose for one main reason the complete full out assault by the liberal press.  Never have you had a media deliberately and intentionally lie and spin against a president while ignoring the same issues with his opponent. 
 

Biden claimed,  on his Obama fundraiser that he was in grade school when Bull Conner used dogs and fire hoses against African Americans.  In reality he was 20.  So either he got stuck in grade school he lied.  And the media that tracks every word spoken by Trump, to claim lies is silent. 

This election has and is going to be interfered with all right, by the national press.  
 


 

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4 minutes ago, Burning Man said:

Fuck, I'm still fogging a mirror and I didn't get my damn stimulus check.  :angry:

They were still on the democratic voter rolls in Chicago.  

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1 minute ago, Movable Ballast said:

Ha! really... OK I'll just leave this here... 

Obama's campaign, not Obama.  For all we know some low-level accountant fucked up.  

Quite a bit different than diverting campaign funds to pay hush money to a porn star you fucked.  

Or maybe you don't differentiate.  

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Just now, Cal20sailor said:

Obama's campaign, not Obama.  For all we know some low-level accountant fucked up.  

Quite a bit different than diverting campaign funds to pay hush money to a porn star you fucked.  

Or maybe you don't differentiate.  

Not me. The law doesn't differentiate or at least shouldn't... 

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2 minutes ago, Cal20sailor said:

Obama's campaign, not Obama.  For all we know some low-level accountant fucked up.  

Quite a bit different than diverting campaign funds to pay hush money to a porn star you fucked.  

Or maybe you don't differentiate.  

That’s an interesting distinction considering the claim that Trump personally sent checks to dead people. :) 

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3 minutes ago, The Joker said:

Another thread that takes something completely out of context.   I expect Trump will lose for one main reason the complete full out assault by the liberal press.  Never have you had a media deliberately and intentionally lie and spin against a president while ignoring the same issues with his opponent. 
 

Biden claimed,  on his Obama fundraiser that he was in grade school when Bull Conner used dogs and fire hoses against African Americans.  In reality he was 20.  So either he got stuck in grade school he lied.  And the media that tracks every word spoken by Trump to claim lies is silent. 

This election has and is going to be interfered with all right, by the national press.  

Trump will lose because he has showcased all his faults for the past 3.5yrs and the American public has seen through it.  Seriously, at times you have shown a hint of intelligence, do you think Trump is/has done a good job?  Or, and I hope this is your answer, anyone but a Democrat?  The fact that Trump despite some pretty strong efforts can't get his approval to dip below 40% tells me that 40% of this country would vote Republican no matter who was the candidate or their qualifications.  Your use of 'liberal' tells me you are part of that group.  

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Welcome back joker.   I assumed the virus got you.     Didn’t you know Trump delayed the checks so he could put his name on the memo line?    

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2 minutes ago, The Joker said:

That’s an interesting distinction considering the claim that Trump personally sent checks to dead people. :) 

Trump insisted that his signature appear on the stimulus checks.  Poor insecure Donnie needing his daily affirmation.  

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15 minutes ago, The Joker said:

I expect Trump will lose for one main reason the complete full out assault by the liberal press 120K dead Americans and counting.  

FIFY

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18 minutes ago, Cal20sailor said:

Trump will lose because he has showcased all his faults for the past 3.5yrs and the American public has seen through it.  Seriously, at times you have shown a hint of intelligence, do you think Trump is/has done a good job?  Or, and I hope this is your answer, anyone but a Democrat?  The fact that Trump despite some pretty strong efforts can't get his approval to dip below 40% tells me that 40% of this country would vote Republican no matter who was the candidate or their qualifications.  Your use of 'liberal' tells me you are part of that group.  

His faults are many.  After his handling of the Covid situation  I do not think he deserves to be re-elected.  BUT I still expect the Media to remain impartial rather than openly and deliberately try to influence the public.  Report every fuck up he makes BUT do not ignore and overlook his opponents fuck ups. 
It’s not just limited to Trump the MSM has become the propaganda wing of the DNC the exact charge regularly made against FOX News 
 

Pelosi accuses the GOP of murdering George Floyd and the media lets it go. 
Chuck Schumer refers to the bill from a black GOP Senator as a Token. Did the media even cover that?   If any republican used the word Token in reference to a black Democrat we would have riots  oh wait we already do  

 

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19 minutes ago, Lark said:

Welcome back joker.   I assumed the virus got you.     Didn’t you know Trump delayed the checks so he could put his name on the memo line?    

Joker was enjoying his PPP, he got well more than a wittle  check.

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2 minutes ago, The Joker said:

His faults are many.  After his handling of the Covid situation  I do not think he deserves to be re-elected.  BUT I still expect the Media to remain impartial rather than openly and deliberately try to influence the public.  Report every fuck up he makes BUT do not ignore and overlook his opponents fuck ups. 
It’s not just limited to Trump the MSM has become the propaganda wing of the DNC the exact charge regularly made against FOX News 
 

Pelosi accuses the GOP of murdering George Floyd and the media lets it go. 
Chuck Schumer refers to the bill from a black GOP Senator as a Token. Did the media even cover that?   If any republican used the word Token in reference to a black Democrat we would have riots  oh wait we already do  

 

It’s like dog’s alter ego when Fido’s had a little too much to drink.

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1 minute ago, The Joker said:

His faults are many.  After his handling of the Covid situation  I do not think he deserves to be re-elected.  BUT I still expect the Media to remain impartial rather than openly and deliberately try to influence the public.  Report every fuck up he makes BUT do not ignore and overlook his opponents fuck ups. 
It’s not just limited to Trump the MSM has become the propaganda wing of the DNC the exact charge regularly made against FOX News 
 

Pelosi accuses the GOP of murdering George Floyd and the media lets it go. 
Chuck Schumer Refers to the bill from a black GOP Senator as a Token. Did the media even cover that?   If any republican used the word Token in reference to a black Democrat we would have riots  oh wait we already do  

 

I'm not going to argue about assigning blame to the media, there's plenty to go around.

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6 minutes ago, The Joker said:

His faults are many.  After his handling of the Covid situation  I do not think he deserves to be re-elected.  BUT I still expect the Media to remain impartial rather than openly and deliberately try to influence the public.  Report every fuck up he makes BUT do not ignore and overlook his opponents fuck ups. 
It’s not just limited to Trump the MSM has become the propaganda wing of the DNC the exact charge regularly made against FOX News 
 

Pelosi accuses the GOP of murdering George Floyd and the media lets it go. 
Chuck Schumer refers to the bill from a black GOP Senator as a Token. Did the media even cover that?   If any republican used the word Token in reference to a black Democrat we would have riots  oh wait we already do  

 

His only “opponent” is Biden. Sorry for your dementia

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7 minutes ago, Mismoyled Jiblet. said:

Joker was enjoying his PPP, he got well more than a wittle  check.

No joke.   It’s a lot easier to sleep when you aren’t fearing bankruptcy followed by foreclosure on your house thanks to that personal guarantee the big companies all require of the small players.     Oh to be a salaryman and get unemployment and a vacation, instead of working for free so I didn’t lose my own workman’s comp.    The partial shutdown was a dark time.   I’ve been hoarding the balance for the next flair up.    

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Just now, Cal20sailor said:

I'm not going to argue about assigning blame to the media, there's plenty to go around.

I truly fear for our country right now and it has nothing to do with whether Trump  wins or loses.  
They fucking defaced the Vietnam memorial,   a memorial that honors all races.  What is wrong with these people? 

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1 minute ago, Raz'r said:

His only “opponent” is Biden. Sorry for your dementia

Funny, but who amongst us has not omitted an apostrophe when needed and added one when not needed.  If that's a capital crime, I should be on death row.  

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3 minutes ago, Lark said:

No joke.   It’s a lot easier to sleep when you aren’t fearing bankruptcy followed by foreclosure on your house thanks to that personal guarantee the big companies all require of the small players.     Oh to be a salaryman and get unemployment and a vacation, instead of working for free so I don’t lose my own workman’s comp.    The partial shutdown was a dark time.    

I have the loser on ignore, but he keeps making up crap about something I have not even considered let alone engaged in 

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2 minutes ago, The Joker said:

I truly fear for our country right now and it has nothing to do with whether Trump  wins or loses.  
They fucking defaced the Vietnam memorial,   a memorial that honors all races.  What is wrong with these people? 

My favorite memorial and I hadn't seen that.  In fact, it honors a disproportionate number of blacks.  That might have been what caused their angst.  

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1 minute ago, Cal20sailor said:

Funny, but who amongst us has not omitted an apostrophe when needed and added one when not needed.  If that's a capital crime, I should be on death row.  

Thanks for that.   If I expected to be graded on every post’s spelling and grammar I would compose on word, spell and grammar check and then post.  Instead I share my thoughts from my iPhone using fat fingers and many times posting as I’m getting off my phone. 

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6 hours ago, A guy in the Chesapeake said:

if one was comparing the two - then the observation would matter.  Pointing out that a behavior and an attitude is wrong no matter who exhibits isn't a value comparison of the two, is it? 

If A throws firecrackers over B's fence and B throws hand grenades over A's fence, both are "wrong" but B is several orders of magnitude more wrong. Also kind of like stealing pens from the office vs. stealing the company car. Saying "well they all do it" is a cop-out. Think 2 kids fighting at lunch because one stole the other's banana to get back at the first kid who stole his milk. You really want them to just cut the shit. Think one kid burned the other kid's house down with his family inside of it. Not quite the same deal at all..........

 

 

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6 minutes ago, The Joker said:

Thanks for that.   If I expected to be graded on every post’s spelling and grammar I would compose on word, spell and grammar check and then post.  Instead I share my thoughts from my iPhone using fat fingers and many times posting as I’m getting off my phone. 

Actually, I wasn’t hitting a typo, I was pointing out that Nancy and Chuck are sideshows, and to expect the “media” to cover them as they do the prez is crazy talk. Hell, the prez got elected just because of his over-saturation of coverage

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4 minutes ago, kent_island_sailor said:

If A throws firecrackers over B's fence and B throws hand grenades over A's fence, both are "wrong" but B is several orders of magnitude more wrong. Also kind of like stealing pens from the office vs. stealing the company car. Saying "well they all do it" is a cop-out. Think 2 kids fighting at lunch because one stole the other's banana to get back at the first kid who stole his milk. You really want them to just cut the shit. Think one kid burned the other kid's house down with his family inside of it. Not quite the same deal at all..........

 

 

Agitc won’t get it.

he’s an old-testament original-sin kinda guy. We’re all equally guilty. Yeah, it’s a fucked up philosophy but that’s what he’s got.

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Maybe, just maybe, more and more people are figuring it out.  

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29 minutes ago, kent_island_sailor said:

If A throws firecrackers over B's fence and B throws hand grenades over A's fence, both are "wrong" but B is several orders of magnitude more wrong. Also kind of like stealing pens from the office vs. stealing the company car. Saying "well they all do it" is a cop-out. Think 2 kids fighting at lunch because one stole the other's banana to get back at the first kid who stole his milk. You really want them to just cut the shit. Think one kid burned the other kid's house down with his family inside of it. Not quite the same deal at all..........

 

 

Israel-Palestine

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11 minutes ago, Cal20sailor said:

My favorite memorial and I hadn't seen that.  In fact, it honors a disproportionate number of blacks.  That might have been what caused their angst.  

Mine too, probably because we are closer to those deaths than any of the others.  Just not a good visit at night, really poorly lit.   I doubt if the numbers of blacks remembered has anything to do with the vandals.  They are lashing out at anything and everything that has to do with the history of this country. 

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Trump has to be going apeshit and I don't see a recovery for him.  Biden could shit himself on stage during the debates and it wouldn't matter.  People are dying and will die because Trump didn't like the optics of him wearing a mask.  The good news, we will get to see his tax returns around the time he is losing the election.  His world is crumbling and he's not exactly the type that handles that well.  Couldn't happen to a bigger asshole.  

Any thoughts on who Melania will be fucking in two years? (and anyone who says the same SS agent may be right but is not playing fair)

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44 minutes ago, Cal20sailor said:

My favorite memorial and I hadn't seen that.  In fact, it honors a disproportionate number of blacks.  That might have been what caused their angst.  

I only have one data point on that, my dad. He worked in Vietnam as an engineering contractor. He was completely pro-war and saw that as his way of contributing to the effort. I'll give him that much credit. He was the opposite of W or the other chicken hawks. Anyways, he hated the Wall. Ross Perot and a lot of other right wing idiots campaigned against it.

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1992-06-03-me-407-story.html

Perot didn't care that we had suffered 50,000 dead and 150,00 wounded in a stupid pointless war that we lost. He wanted a heroic memorial. Needless to say my dad was a Perot voter.

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3 minutes ago, The Joker said:

Mine too, probably because we are closer to those deaths than any of the others.  Just not a good visit at night, really poorly lit.   I doubt if the numbers of blacks remembered has anything to do with the vandals.  They are lashing out at anything and everything that has to do with the history of this country. 

I think night is the only time to view any of the memorials.  The Vietnam wall really impacted me the first time I viewed it, at night of course.  None of the others have the same reality if you will.  You're probably right, those that desecrated it were not thinking about the inequities of the war with regard to race.  I missed the war by about 6 yrs, but grew up with body counts at the end of the evening news.  I have friends that served and one still has PTSD after a few beers and another said it was the most fun he ever had.  I still view it as senseless.  

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20 hours ago, Mid said:

 

Even a stopped clock... 

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2 minutes ago, Olsonist said:

Perot didn't care that we had suffered 50,000 dead and 150,00 wounded in a stupid pointless war that we lost. He wanted a heroic memorial. Needless to say my dad was a Perot voter.

I love the wall.  It makes war real and the losses personal.  I liked that the first time I visited, people were doing etchings of family, friends, etc.  

I couldn't give a shit about Perot.  But I did love the SNL parodies of the debates.  I will give him some credit, when Iran took our embassy in what, '79?  Several of his employees were prisoned.  He had some bad ass executives with serious military experience and tasked them with getting them out and home.  The whole story is documented in the book, "On Wings of Eagles."  They succeeded where the US failed.  Great read even if you don't like Perot.  But he did walk the walk which is more than most.  

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19 minutes ago, Cal20sailor said:

Trump has to be going apeshit and I don't see a recovery for him.  Biden could shit himself on stage during the debates and it wouldn't matter.  People are dying and will die because Trump didn't like the optics of him wearing a mask.  The good news, we will get to see his tax returns around the time he is losing the election.  His world is crumbling and he's not exactly the type that handles that well.  Couldn't happen to a bigger asshole.  

Any thoughts on who Melania will be fucking in two years? (and anyone who says the same SS agent may be right but is not playing fair)

The best divorce lawyer she can find. 

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1 hour ago, Cal20sailor said:

My favorite memorial and I hadn't seen that.  In fact, it honors a disproportionate number of blacks.  That might have been what caused their angst.  

Well, you didn’t see it because it didn’t happen. @Jokereither fell prey to or is guilty of spreading a lie. I think I know which it is:

 
 
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Says a photo shows a memorial vandalized by Black Lives Matter protesters.
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Vietnam memorial was not vandalized by Black Lives Matter protesters

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  • The post includes an image of graffiti on a veterans memorial.

  • The photo was taken in 2016 and shows a vandalized Vietnam War memorial in Venice, Calif. It is not related to recent demonstrations over the death of George Floyd.

  • Some Black Lives Matter protesters have spray-painted war memorials around Washington, D.C. But as of now, the Vietnam Veterans Memorial has not been vandalized.

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7 hours ago, A guy in the Chesapeake said:

That's where you're wrong - YOU are projecting that.   

I've consistently said that it's bad no matter WHO does it.  You get offended when it's pointed out the behaviors you decry are demonstrated by "your camp".  Go back and read anything I've written and prove me wrong if you can.   

This is a perfect example of why partisan division is harmful - because the focus is on "proving the other guys wrong" rather than actually addressing what IS wrong and fixing it.   

 

The big point here sir is no one is arguing it is not...  You are making an argument for argument sake.  If your point is to troll, carry oin then, but asked and answered in your favor...  

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6 hours ago, Lifted Tack said:

I think the original line was supposed to be an insult. Do you remember Lou Gosset in An Officer and a Gentleman? Only two things come out of Oklahoma! Steers and Queers! Which are you? The whole point was to give the recruit a no-win beat down. If anyone put that slogan on their pickup truck and was proud of it, they were a true moran.

U have never been to Texas have you???  

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5 hours ago, Albatros said:

it's even far worse than that, today talking to some people on my pontoon, they are French as the marina is close to France, they had a good laugh telling that their son ( French nationality but living and working in New York )got this nice check signed by your yellow moron, he framed it and stuck it to the wall of the toilet.

Fuck this, the surrender monkeys getting your freebie $$$ and using it as constipation cure.

Shit, Mine hasn't fucking come yet...  WTF???

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1 hour ago, Raz'r said:

His only “opponent” is himself. Sorry for your dementia

Fify

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1 hour ago, Cal20sailor said:

My favorite memorial and I hadn't seen that.  In fact, it honors a disproportionate number of blacks.  That might have been what caused their angst.  

True - we sent lots of black men to die in the Jungles of Vietnam while privileged whites skated with bone spurs. 

edit I see that the story about the Memorial being vandalized is fake news!

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2 hours ago, Cal20sailor said:

Cohen went to jail in part for campaign finance violations.  Why wouldn't Trump?  And since COVID-19 is no big deal, let him sit in a cell vs the whole house arrest Cohen is now enjoying.  

Well, as said above he is individual one....  

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2 hours ago, The Joker said:

Another thread that takes something completely out of context.   I expect Trump will lose for one main reason the complete full out assault by the liberal press.  Never have you had a media deliberately and intentionally lie and spin against a president while ignoring the same issues with his opponent. 
 

Biden claimed,  on his Obama fundraiser that he was in grade school when Bull Conner used dogs and fire hoses against African Americans.  In reality he was 20.  So either he got stuck in grade school he lied.  And the media that tracks every word spoken by Trump, to claim lies is silent. 

This election has and is going to be interfered with all right, by the national press.  
 


 

HJAHAHAAHAHAHAHA. Too rich..  Never...  Really Never???  OMG you are retarded.  You guys went after Obama incessantly, was the press fake then?? Or was Fox news Just not real news then so there fore not real now??  Carter got roasted, Clinton got fucking impeached in the press.  WTF are you on about??  

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I think it is sad that no one, well almost no one, is able to express any sympathy for the President. After all he is doing an outstanding job and is in trouble only because of the Deep State and their allies/co-conspirators in the MSM. History will be kind to DJT.

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2 hours ago, The Joker said:

They were still on the democratic voter rolls in Chicago.  

OK..  #1 UR dumb..  And if that was not

supposed to be in purple font, Well you aren't smart enough to breathe on a keyboard.  

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2 hours ago, The Joker said:

That’s an interesting distinction considering the claim that Trump personally sent checks to dead people. :) 

HE FUCKING SIGNED THEM!!!!

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2 minutes ago, Bristol-Cruiser said:

I think it is sad that no one, well almost no one, is able to express any sympathy for the President. After all he is doing an outstanding job and is in trouble only because of the Deep State and their allies/co-conspirators in the MSM. History will be kind to DJT.

Got it in one.

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1 hour ago, Lark said:

No joke.   It’s a lot easier to sleep when you aren’t fearing bankruptcy followed by foreclosure on your house thanks to that personal guarantee the big companies all require of the small players.     Oh to be a salaryman and get unemployment and a vacation, instead of working for free so I didn’t lose my own workman’s comp.    The partial shutdown was a dark time.   I’ve been hoarding the balance for the next flair up.    

The joke was bragging he was working 6-7 days a week due to covid. I mean, I think he’s just a fucking liar, but it’s what he’s posted.

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1 hour ago, The Joker said:

His faults are many.  After his handling of the Covid situation  I do not think he deserves to be re-elected.  BUT I still expect the Media to remain impartial rather than openly and deliberately try to influence the public.  Report every fuck up he makes BUT do not ignore and overlook his opponents fuck ups. 
It’s not just limited to Trump the MSM has become the propaganda wing of the DNC the exact charge regularly made against FOX News 
 

Pelosi accuses the GOP of murdering George Floyd and the media lets it go. 
Chuck Schumer refers to the bill from a black GOP Senator as a Token. Did the media even cover that?   If any republican used the word Token in reference to a black Democrat we would have riots  oh wait we already do  

 

Not even going to try and go into the bashing, fake shit and just all out lying about Obama by the numerous faces of Foxey news.  So were they fake then??  Does that mean they were the original fakes for ripping on the potus so unfairly so many years ago...  Fuck you Joke.  

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4 minutes ago, Bristol-Cruiser said:

I think it is sad that no one, well almost no one, is able to express any sympathy for the President. After all he is doing an outstanding job and is in trouble only because of the Deep State and their allies/co-conspirators in the MSM. History will be kind to DJT.

I wish him a peaceful death and hope his kids are so bereaved that they jump in the hole as the first dirt lands.  Jared should join them.  Stephen Miller to keep from having me kick his ass should hug his boss at that crucial time.   

In 20yrs, the youth will not believe the stories about DJT...I hope.  

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57 minutes ago, Left Shift said:
59 minutes ago, Bristol-Cruiser said:

I think it is sad that no one, well almost no one, is able to express any sympathy for the President. After all he is doing an outstanding job and is in trouble only because of the Deep State and their allies/co-conspirators in the MSM. History will be kind to DJT.

Got it in one.

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52 minutes ago, Cal20sailor said:

I wish him a peaceful death and hope his kids are so bereaved that they jump in the hole as the first dirt lands.  Jared should join them.  Stephen Miller to keep from having me kick his ass should hug his boss at that crucial time.   

In 20yrs, the youth will not believe the stories about DJT...I hope.  

I wish him a long life - lived in penury.

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55 minutes ago, shaggy said:

Not even going to try and go into the bashing, fake shit and just all out lying about Obama by the numerous faces of Foxey news.  So were they fake then??  Does that mean they were the original fakes for ripping on the potus so unfairly so many years ago...  Fuck you Joke.  

Probably about a year and half into his Presidency, Fox News stopped showing Obama speaking. He sounded too nice, and too smart.

Instead, they showed him, either a photo of a silent video, and told you what they wanted you to think he said. For example, he gave a speech at Pearl Harbor on Dec 7th, and he gave quite a touching speech about sacrifice and rebuilding. He did speak very positively about our Japanese allies, which probably rankled a lot of Tumpalos-to-be; Fox reported that he said we deserved to be attacked by surprise and that he apologized to the Japanese. During the origin of the Black Lives Matter movement, they said he was urging protestors to shoot police.

Etc Etc

The right wing has gone full retard. They've been going that way for years. They are the bitch that needs burning, the rest of us would be fine without them

- DSK

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8 hours ago, Movable Ballast said:

You're right,  party before country and all that... 

Did you just find a homeless shelter with wifi? Welcome back, but not to the real world. Does your handler know you are posting?

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11 hours ago, Raz'r said:

Well, you didn’t see it because it didn’t happen. @Jokereither fell prey to or is guilty of spreading a lie. I think I know which it is:

 
 
THE FACTS NEWSLETTER
 
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Says a photo shows a memorial vandalized by Black Lives Matter protesters.
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Vietnam memorial was not vandalized by Black Lives Matter protesters

IF YOUR TIME IS SHORT

  • The post includes an image of graffiti on a veterans memorial.

  • The photo was taken in 2016 and shows a vandalized Vietnam War memorial in Venice, Calif. It is not related to recent demonstrations over the death of George Floyd.

  • Some Black Lives Matter protesters have spray-painted war memorials around Washington, D.C. But as of now, the Vietnam Veterans Memorial has not been vandalized.

Bullshitters gotta bullshit. 

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14 hours ago, Fat Point Jack said:

Israel-Palestine

Well, the firecrackers being thrown over the fence are fucking annoying, so I can't blame the izzies for chucking some grenades back over.  

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12 hours ago, Steam Flyer said:

The right wing has gone full retard. They've been going that way for years. They are the bitch that needs burning, the rest of us would be fine without them

Yep.  They were the original Bitch that needed to be burned, no doubt about it.  

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His TV commercials are spreading through North Florida and Georgia almost as fast as COVID. That is not a good sign for a re-election campaign based on dividing the electorate. Those areas ARE his electorate already. I would not be shocked to see him pony up a bullshit reason to quit and GTFO. 

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1 minute ago, Sol Rosenberg said:

His TV commercials are spreading through North Florida and Georgia almost as fast as COVID. That is not a good sign for a re-election campaign based on dividing the electorate. Those areas ARE his electorate already. I would not be shocked to see him pony up a bullshit reason to quit and GTFO. 

Wouldn't that be awesome!

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Just now, Burning Man said:

Wouldn't that be awesome!

as Peggy Noonan posited, he could just say "you don't deserve me."  

It would be the most honest statement he made in office. 

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34 minutes ago, Sol Rosenberg said:
36 minutes ago, Burning Man said:

Wouldn't that be awesome!

as Peggy Noonan posited, he could just say "you don't deserve me."  

It would be the most honest statement he made in office. 

:lol:

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4 hours ago, Sol Rosenberg said:

Bullshitters gotta bullshit. 

Sorry it was a mistake. I’m glad it didn’t happen - Yet.  They did trash the WW 2 memorial so it was not a stretch to think they wouldn’t hesitate to deface the wall.  
 

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/06/01/national-world-war-ii-memorial-vandalized.html


How about their threats to tear down the Lincoln emancipation statue.   Are you ok with that?  

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36 minutes ago, Burning Man said:

Wouldn't that be awesome!

Should Donald Trump withdraw from the race? Maybe not.

According to a growing list of Republican leaders and luminaries, yes. Most of them weren’t outraged until Friday, but now they’re clamoring for their nominee’s exit ...

Many liberals would like to see the nominee stay in the race rather than watch Pence take his place ...

Is it right to want our national disgrace to continue ... just so the Democrats can win the White House? ...

... give citizens the chance collectively to renounce Trump’s bigotry and balderdash at the polls. A landslide defeat would be a national referendum against the racism, sexism and general un-Americanism Trump has come to represent ...


Then there’s the effect ditching Trump could have on the GOP. Republicans have allowed Trump to trample all over our country’s discourse  ... Some are taking a stand now to save face, but no one with a shred of sense should really find the latest revelations surprising ...


The GOP nominated Trump, and it stood behind him as he demonized an entire religion, attacked the nation’s military, winked at the assassination of his opponent and tweeted about a “sex tape” at 3 a.m. That’s the GOP’s record right now, and in November that’s what voters should judge it on.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2016/10/08/should-donald-trump-withdraw-from-the-race-maybe-not/

Incredible, right? Now realize this article is from 2016! Proof of how conservatism is unable to fix anything. Their fear of change in a fast changing world has destroyed the movement. Their accidental grabbing of power in America has destroyed the country. 

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1 hour ago, El Boracho said:

Should Donald Trump withdraw from the race? Maybe not.

According to a growing list of Republican leaders and luminaries, yes. Most of them weren’t outraged until Friday, but now they’re clamoring for their nominee’s exit ...

Many liberals would like to see the nominee stay in the race rather than watch Pence take his place ...

Is it right to want our national disgrace to continue ... just so the Democrats can win the White House? ...

... give citizens the chance collectively to renounce Trump’s bigotry and balderdash at the polls. A landslide defeat would be a national referendum against the racism, sexism and general un-Americanism Trump has come to represent ...


Then there’s the effect ditching Trump could have on the GOP. Republicans have allowed Trump to trample all over our country’s discourse  ... Some are taking a stand now to save face, but no one with a shred of sense should really find the latest revelations surprising ...


The GOP nominated Trump, and it stood behind him as he demonized an entire religion, attacked the nation’s military, winked at the assassination of his opponent and tweeted about a “sex tape” at 3 a.m. That’s the GOP’s record right now, and in November that’s what voters should judge it on.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2016/10/08/should-donald-trump-withdraw-from-the-race-maybe-not/

Incredible, right? Now realize this article is from 2016! Proof of how conservatism is unable to fix anything. Their fear of change in a fast changing world has destroyed the movement. Their accidental grabbing of power in America has destroyed the country. 

That’s not conservatism. There are no conservatives left in the GOP. Most have been gone a long time. Trump either drove the holdouts out or converted them to the Cult of Bullshit with all the other Republicans. 

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3 hours ago, Sol Rosenberg said:

as Peggy Noonan posited, he could just say "you don't deserve me."  

It would be the most honest statement he made in office. 

Plausible, could happen,  but my money is on he continues to convince himself he has a chance until after election is over.  I can imagine him resigning within a day or two after that though.  He won't want to hang around until January. However there will be pardoning to do..and Barr probably has some docs to destroy, so he may hang around.  Expect him to relocate the bunker to Mar A Lago for the remaining two months, if so.  

 

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1 hour ago, Sol Rosenberg said:

That’s not conservatism. There are no conservatives left in the GOP. Most have been gone a long time. Trump either drove the holdouts out or converted them to the Cult of Bullshit with all the other Republicans. 

I agree. I'm wondering if the conservatives driven out have some plan? @Burning Man may have some idea. Lacking votes of the TeaParty/QAnon/Nazi/UninformedHater factions what is a conservative to do?

I'd invite them over to the progressive wing of the Left. I'm as "conservative" as many of the exiled ones. Environmentalist, Landowner, Family, Anti-crime, Individual Rights, Fiscal Conservative ... Etc. Etc. I'm so conservative that I send money to AOC in an attempt to stave off the poor from taking to the streets with pitchforks.

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10 hours ago, Sol Rosenberg said:

Bullshitters gotta bullshit. 

It is more correctly put "Liars gotta lie".

Bullshit implies extreme exaggeration and/or deception more than out & out lying.

For example - Trump is a liar, not a bullshitter.

The same applies to the Elk.

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5 hours ago, El Boracho said:

Should Donald Trump withdraw from the race? Maybe not.

According to a growing list of Republican leaders and luminaries, yes. Most of them weren’t outraged until Friday, but now they’re clamoring for their nominee’s exit ...

Many liberals would like to see the nominee stay in the race rather than watch Pence take his place ...

Is it right to want our national disgrace to continue ... just so the Democrats can win the White House? ...

... give citizens the chance collectively to renounce Trump’s bigotry and balderdash at the polls. A landslide defeat would be a national referendum against the racism, sexism and general un-Americanism Trump has come to represent ...


Then there’s the effect ditching Trump could have on the GOP. Republicans have allowed Trump to trample all over our country’s discourse  ... Some are taking a stand now to save face, but no one with a shred of sense should really find the latest revelations surprising ...


The GOP nominated Trump, and it stood behind him as he demonized an entire religion, attacked the nation’s military, winked at the assassination of his opponent and tweeted about a “sex tape” at 3 a.m. That’s the GOP’s record right now, and in November that’s what voters should judge it on.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2016/10/08/should-donald-trump-withdraw-from-the-race-maybe-not/

Incredible, right? Now realize this article is from 2016! Proof of how conservatism is unable to fix anything. Their fear of change in a fast changing world has destroyed the movement. Their accidental grabbing of power in America has destroyed the country. 

Fuck them.

They gotta dance with the one they brought.

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8 hours ago, SloopJonB said:

It is more correctly put "Liars gotta lie".

Bullshit implies extreme exaggeration and/or deception more than out & out lying.

For example - Trump is a liar, not a bullshitter.

The same applies to the Elk.

No.  Trump is a bullshitter.  And bullshit is much worse than lying.

Lying acknowledges, however tacitly, that the truth exists, and matters.

Bullshit asserts that truth is irrelevant  -  which is worse.

Philosopher Harry Frankfurt wrote a whole 20-page essay about this.  Back in George the Lesser's reign, in response to the "truthiness" stuff.  I can't remember if it was Sol or Mark, who first linked it... back then...

Anyways  -  an excerpt:

"Someone who lies and someone who tells the truth are playing on opposite sides, so to speak, in the same game. Each responds to the facts as he understands them, although the response of the one is guided by the authority of the truth, while the response of the other defies that authority and refuses to meet its demands. The bullshitter ignores these demands altogether. He does not reject the authority of the truth, as the liar does, and oppose himself to it. He pays no attention to it at all. By virtue of this, bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are."

It's well worth reading the whole thing.  There's a lot of interesting discussion that leads up to that excerpt, which is on the 2nd-to-last page.

http://www2.csudh.edu/ccauthen/576f12/frankfurt__harry_-_on_bullshit.pdf

 

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1 hour ago, Left Shift said:

Then show him what it looks like

Then script some language he can actually read

Then get him to give a shit

 

Three steps too far, you would have better luck pushing shit uphill with rake.

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9 minutes ago, Mid said:

 

Holey Moley " If its what you're saying it is,  I love it......."

5  months out who would run as the replacement, everybody that has supported Trump so unequivocally has to be somewhat tainted to the sixty percent of pissed off people, and I don't think  he's gonna suggest honest Mitt Romney.

Ivanka, you think you're in trouble now watch this space.

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