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The irony of THIS making a FP topic on SA when CORA is by FAR the most liberal sailing club in Charleston harbor is mind blowing.   Want to join CORA?  Show up to a meeting an write a check, (either as a boat owner or crew).  There's no initiation fee, no "wait period" and no "vote in approval" by voting members or some committee.

Sure, the flag can been construed as a knock off the confederate flag, but if you want some real juice just check out the membership rules of other area clubs that will make this flag issue look as innocent as it is.

Good on CORA though for remaining sensitive to not only the local community, but to America as a whole!

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Well, I can say that some of those founding clubs of CORA represented by the stars...

Are clubs that I wouldn't be interested in being a member or having my daughter sail under their burgee, since she could never be a member. How insulting that must be for those girls sailing at their parents home club all their careers and knowing that once they can't fall under the family membership know that they aren't welcome to be a member.

Ahh the progress we've made... Let's target that bullshit, too.

 

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First it is a burgee, which is a type of flag but it is not called a flag. But the design looks like some 3rd world emerging country recently renamed.

I do not see a resemblance with the Confederacy flag. 

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6 minutes ago, Meat Wad said:

First it is a burgee, which is a type of flag but it is not called a flag. But the design looks like some 3rd world emerging country recently renamed.

I do not see a resemblance with the Confederacy flag. 

I agree

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If this club was in Massachusetts or Michigan, would this be an issue?

That said, I feel like it's a matter for the members and nobody else. Whether it's offensive to segments the community or not is something they should consider, but the decision should be theirs.

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8 hours ago, crayton said:

I am curious. What are the membership rules of other clubs in Charleston? 

Presumably you have to do a 1920s dance that makes it look like you've dislocated a hip.

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8 hours ago, RobbieB said:

The irony of THIS making a FP topic on SA when CORA is by FAR the most liberal sailing club in Charleston harbor is mind blowing.

Isn't that the point of the FP story? CORA membership/leadership have identified that some of their members have a concern, and they are talking to their members about what to do.

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So why is the Ed, on the west coast, bitching about this again.

The burgee looks nothing like the Confederate flag.

Maybe they should throw a few lightning bolts in to really piss him off.:lol:

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On 7/14/2020 at 11:04 AM, Midfleet said:

Well, I can say that some of those founding clubs of CORA represented by the stars...

Are clubs that I wouldn't be interested in being a member or having my daughter sail under their burgee, since she could never be a member. How insulting that must be for those girls sailing at their parents home club all their careers and knowing that once they can't fall under the family membership know that they aren't welcome to be a member.

Ahh the progress we've made... Let's target that bullshit, too.

 

He Man's Women Haters Yacht Club?

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Whose burgee is/was the one on the right? Spotted at RNZYS in 2009. (note year, may not be current)

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On 7/14/2020 at 11:04 AM, Meat Wad said:

First it is a burgee, which is a type of flag but it is not called a flag. But the design looks like some 3rd world emerging country recently renamed.

I do not see a resemblance with the Confederacy flag. 

seriously...   you don't see the connection?     there's ignorance and then the blind?

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On 7/14/2020 at 4:55 PM, TJSoCal said:

Next up?

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Nice Spanish Conquistador, Amigo! ¿De donde es la bandera Confederale¿

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On 7/14/2020 at 3:51 PM, TJSoCal said:

If this club was in Massachusetts or Michigan, would this be an issue?

 

Well, ZERO clubs north of the Mason-Dixon line would have a burgee like that, and that's saying something right there.

 

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Hmm

Red white and blue with stars

Reminds me of the union flag Old Glory

Seriously though no women allowed as members in other clubs, are they still in the stone age?

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CORA only has 59 members with their Dues paid up ?????????

OMG X 2 !!     

1. Some members cannot be associated with anything Confederate due to income stream... I am disappointed that 22 members do not recognize this.   Others cannot join.  If the 37 members quit that would be the end of CORA....  They could start NCORA.... North Charleston Ocean Racin Association. 

2. The use of waterways around Charleston are not completely free to use for Sailing events.  Cooperation with all is a very good policy.  The Editor is very well aware of just how much the CG, Feds, State, local organizations, PHRF SoCal can harass your event.  Better to stay under the radar and point at jet skis.   Sailing....The Best  environmental sport EVER!!! 

CORA Members should be thrilled they do not have PHRF SoCAL.... The CG and FEDS as well as Local Organizations well...... If Biden/Harris win watch out... 

Yes Women should be members.   However.... Charleston is the greatest spot for all types of Sailing period.   James Island has perhaps the best idea I have EVER heard of for any Club.   Huntin, Fishin, Racin, and...a few other things that end in n.   Last time I looked there was a waiting list.

 It appears that if I can just remember how to operate a Fax Machine I will be able to complete my Mortgage application and become an owner on James Island.  

Do you know what the worst thing about James Island is?   

My mailing address will be Charleston!!!     I wanted the return address on my XMAS cards to have ISLAND on them.... :(

 

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, Lynch said:

 

Seriously though no women allowed as members in other clubs, are they still in the stone age?

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Ha!    I can count over a a dozen choices in Sailboat Club/Associations within a 2 hour drive of downtown Charleston.   Many have unique goals and requirements for membership.  Maybe we need a 13th ^^^^^^...... 

 

https://www.charlestonoceanracing.com

 

I looked at the website and while there are less instances of listing member names they are not shy about who is an owner or on the Board.   There are still sponsors and partner clubs. There are Charity events.   If this was a big issue outside of CORA I suspect what I have cited would not be shown.   I am concerned for members of CORA who now may have membership in CORA hang over their heads if they are accused of nearly anything at work.   I am also wondering what member decided to put this on the evening news.   Somebody has an agenda and cares not about their fellow members. 

Not a member but my vote would have been a new flag.     

 

 

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On 7/14/2020 at 12:04 PM, Meat Wad said:

I do not see a resemblance with the Confederacy flag. 

I see a resemblance. However, it is certainly not a Confederate flag or necessarily a tribute thereto.

If the Ed was seriously interested in effecting change rather than mere virtue signalling, he would seek dialogue, appeal to the members’ better natures, and attempt to persuade them to make a change. Instead, he publicly labels them as “rednecks (indulging in) good ol’ Southern racism” .

Childish insults may be momentarily satisfying, but only cause people to dig in their heels.

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39 minutes ago, Svanen said:

virtue signalling

 

lol

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Well listen up folks as times they are a changin' and you're either gonna get on board or be left behind.   

News has it Sperry, (Charleston Race Week primary sponsor) has gotten wind of this "tiny little, much ado about nothing" controversy and PULLED out of sponsoring further CRW's.  

Anyone think this event is gonna happen w/out a primary sponsor?  Anyone think some other large, main stream company is gonna jump in and be a primary sponsor now?  Can you say "Key West Race Week."?

What was funny to me was the guy who announced it last night chuckled about it a little.  Not sure he was thinking about the $8-$15K loss loosing this event would mean to our little club just from the launch/lift fees and traveling boat storage we recognize annually from the event.

It's a fucking CLUB Burgee people!  I mean shit, the Washington Redskins are changing their fucking team name to keep their title sponsor!

I can heard it now, "OMG Club Burgee today the American Flag tomorrow!!!"   If that's your thought process then you're an idiot, but so was the confederacy so there you go....

 

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OMG Club Burgee today, The American Flag tomorrow!

Did America give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?.......... NO!

 

CORA needs to hold fast.   No boats have been burnt or looted.   There has been no marches on any partner clubs/Associations/KKK Club House.   Nobody has lost their Job as the idiot Kent H hinted at.  The J24 is STILL the primary one design raced in Gods Country.   

All of this hubbub has been caused by outsiders to the great State of South Carolina.  This fragrant intransigence has been aided by none other than the devils spawn Sailing Antichrist dot com Sleepy Scot Tempesta.  

Brothers!   We need to unite behind the great theme for this fight provided by true South Carolinian Robbie B. 

Club Burgee Today,  The American Flag Tomorrow! 

Anyone who disagree's hates America !!

 

In other Sailing news terrible sponsor Sperry Gyro Scopes has been replaced by:  MY PILLOW - Guaranteed the Most Comfortable Pillow you will ever own while trying to get to sleep with a guilty conscious.

 

 

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THIS JUST IN .....North Sails is sticking with CORA!!!

Even more Sponsors are lining up to replace Sperry Top Sliders....

IHateMtPleasant.com - Tell the Socialist Bridge to Nowhere Lovers just how you feel

Sailinganarchy.com - Scot is completely nuts and this sponsorship should prove it.  

NRA - The National Roofing Association wants Charlestonians to know that storm season is right around the corner - Is your roof ready? 

Republicans for Biden / Harris - Bigot proof yourself with a big fat donation!  If accused of ANYTHING just whip out your Republicans for Biden / Harris card and get out of cancel culture jail "Scot" free!!!  

North Sails - North Sails still a sponsor of CORA.   Try our new criss cross cut Confederate Radial Chicken Chute.  Show the world your pro - Americanism without risking a knock down. 

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16 hours ago, Svanen said:

  labels them as “rednecks (indulging in) good ol’ Southern racism” .

Childish insults may be momentarily satisfying, but only cause people to dig in their heels. 

 

 

in SC that's not an insult, it's a compliment..

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5 hours ago, RobbieB said:

What was funny to me was the guy who announced it last night chuckled about it a little. 

I miss the harbor, but with a few exceptions, I don't miss the people. Even the educated folk down there say the n word daily.

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5 minutes ago, MR.CLEAN said:

I miss the harbor, but with a few exceptions, I don't miss the people. Even the educated folk down there say the n word daily.

At this point it's not event about liberals vs conservatives.  It's about right vs wrong.

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6 minutes ago, RobbieB said:

At this point it's not event about liberals vs conservatives. 

It never was.  It's about ignorance and the willful embrace some people have for it, and the high level of racism and privilege in certain sports. CRW could very much not afford to lose Sperry.  

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18 minutes ago, MR.CLEAN said:

It never was.  It's about ignorance and the willful embrace some people have for it, and the high level of racism and privilege in certain sports. CRW could very much not afford to lose Sperry.  

It's like the Washington loosing FedEx over their name.  At least they didn't screw around, but I don't think Sperry was aware of "Burgee Gate" until just before the vote.  I feel like and/or at least hope the vote result would have been different if it was known the premier sponsor that put's much needed money in a lot of pockets around here was on the line....It sounds like CORA has been given a chance to fix it, (hence no press release from anyone).  The real acid test will come if there's a chance for a 2nd vote....

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cause it was a shock that the very definition of a liberal elite company doesn't like the stars and bars

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Not every redneck down here uses the n word and some of us have been correcting people using it for over fifty years. (I know because I lost a front tooth the first time I did over fifty years ago.) It is easy to be Woke when everyone else is also Woke. Remember a Democratic Governor put the flag up over the state capitol and a Republican took it down. 

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Not every redneck, but definitely a majority.   As Robbie said, politics aren't relevant.

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2 hours ago, Proneshooter said:

Not every redneck down here uses the n word and some of us have been correcting people using it for over fifty years. (I know because I lost a front tooth the first time I did over fifty years ago.) It is easy to be Woke when everyone else is also Woke. Remember a Democratic Governor put the flag up over the state capitol and a Republican took it down. 

of course taking things out of context and 50 years later it's all a word game...  Strom and his racist buddies left when LBJ started his social agenda and succeeded to the republican party....    so don't be ignorant and blame this on the "democrats"

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Clearly the majority of club members, (from at least 3 of our 5 organizations) are not "woke" down here.  Now the competitive side of our sport will start paying for it....Funny thing is I bet a lot of people voting "No" on these issues are not sailors.  They care more about their "tradition" than any potential ramifications otherwise and they are likely ignorant to the financial loses that will happen.  Like we need more of those.....

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On 8/24/2020 at 10:23 PM, Svanen said:

he would seek dialogue, appeal to the members’ better natures, and attempt to persuade them to make a change.

Every protester knows these tactics do. not. work. Or is this in purple font and I missed it?

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On 7/14/2020 at 4:55 PM, TJSoCal said:

Next up?

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My first sailboat was a Coronado 25. The sail insignia is a Conquistador's head, similar to this burgee. Should I burn the entire boat down to the waterline, or just the mainsail? ;)

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9 minutes ago, Ajax said:

My first sailboat was a Coronado 25. The sail insignia is a Conquistador's head, similar to this burgee. Should I burn the entire boat down to the waterline, or just the mainsail? ;)

burning is not environmentally friendly.

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2 hours ago, Ajax said:

My first sailboat was a Coronado 25. The sail insignia is a Conquistador's head, similar to this burgee. Should I burn the entire boat down to the waterline, or just the mainsail? ;)

You should ask the Aztecs and Incas 

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On 8/23/2020 at 3:22 PM, Grande Mastere Dreade said:

seriously...   you don't see the connection?     there's ignorance and then the blind?

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Red, White (just a little), Blue and stars.  Do the Start represent 4 clubs??

and why are you racists so insulting. I have found the only people who are racist call others racist. Must be some kind of defense mechanism.

And as I have said before, I lived in foreign countries and in 3 different states, including South Carolina by 1970 when I was 12 years old. I lived in Sumpter, SC for 1 year and one of my friends was a Black kid and 2 girls. This was the 6th grade. going from Bangkok, Thailand in 67/68 to SC in 69 was a bit of a culture shock for a young person. I survived and am a way better person because of the experience and have a better outlook than 90% of you here. Oh yea. let me include my experiences traveling as a disabled person. I know what it is like to be told I have to use the back entrance.

Ask the Ed where he has lived......oh never mind So Cal. Don't be a Val.

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35 minutes ago, Meat Wad said:

Red, White (just a little), Blue and stars.  Do the Start represent 4 clubs??

and why are you racists so insulting. I have found the only people who are racist call others racist. Must be some kind of defense mechanism.

And as I have said before, I lived in foreign countries and in 3 different states, including South Carolina by 1970 when I was 12 years old. I lived in Sumpter, SC for 1 year and one of my friends was a Black kid and 2 girls. This was the 6th grade. going from Bangkok, Thailand in 67/68 to SC in 69 was a bit of a culture shock for a young person. I survived and am a way better person because of the experience and have a better outlook than 90% of you here. Oh yea. let me include my experiences traveling as a disabled person. I know what it is like to be told I have to use the back entrance.

Ask the Ed where he has lived......oh never mind So Cal. Don't be a Val.

 

I agree, that there was virtually nothing to justify him calling you a racist, but then he did not actually call you a racist, he mere expressed incredulity that you could not see the connection between the burgee and the confederate flag.

I  think there is  a lot more resemblance between the CORA flag and the confederate flag than you were crediting, certainly enough that just under 2/3s of the Cora members voted to change it. What to me is surprising is that 1/3 of the membership felt strongly enough about it that the chose to vote against the majority on this.

Unlike the US flag; in the Cora burgee the stars are placed along a blue band with a white border on a redish background this closely matches a quarter of the confederate flag (with 3 stars along a blue band with a  white border on a redish background. There are clear similarities between the two. looking at the two snips below its a hard sell to say there are no similarities.

 

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15 hours ago, JohnMB said:

I agree, that there was virtually nothing to justify him calling you a racist, but then he did not actually call you a racist, he mere expressed incredulity that you could not see the connection between the burgee and the confederate flag.

I  think there is  a lot more resemblance between the CORA flag and the confederate flag than you were crediting, certainly enough that just under 2/3s of the Cora members voted to change it. What to me is surprising is that 1/3 of the membership felt strongly enough about it that the chose to vote against the majority on this.

Unlike the US flag; in the Cora burgee the stars are placed along a blue band with a white border on a redish background this closely matches a quarter of the confederate flag (with 3 stars along a blue band with a  white border on a redish background. There are clear similarities between the two. looking at the two snips below its a hard sell to say there are no similarities.

 

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Having been through one of these votes, (on a different, but sort of similar topic) the best argument anyone could come up with is "it's tradition".  At least that's all they would publicly say.  While I was not there I'm betting "tradition" was probably mentioned a lot at the CORA vote.  

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I used to hear the It's Tradition argument when the flag issue was up in  the air. I would calmly ask (older people) where were you when the KKK used it as their symbol? Did you complain about it then? I would prefer it not to be decided over the money issue. Do what is right and proper. 

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It is a slippery slope. 

First you change the flag of one club (as a former member of CORA, I do not oppose the idea).

Second, you go after the two (or more) other clubs that will not entertain the thought of women members  or other people not like themselves as members..

Ok, they are Private clubs and are entitled to vote on membership but, where does IT end?

Would they allow LR, Dawg, Squeaky or even Snaggs (shudder..) to be a member?

 

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10 minutes ago, SSOCK said:

It is a slippery slope. 

First you change the flag of one club (as a former member of CORA, I do not oppose the idea).

Second, you go after the two (or more) other clubs that will not entertain the thought of women members  or other people not like themselves as members..

Ok, they are Private clubs and are entitled to vote on membership but, where does IT end?

Would they allow LR, Dawg, Squeaky or even Snaggs (shudder..) to be a member?

 

Life is about change.  You are 100% correct private clubs and can do whatever they want.  However, things do become public that can have a negative impact on a club as we are seeing here.   When this happens it falls on the club membership to decide the next move.  There's not a lot of options:

1- Stick with "tradition", (or whatever you want to wrap socially unacceptable practice in) and screw the rest of them while accepting whatever downside comes with it like loss of income?

2- Change with the times and become more sensitive to social issues/concerns.  Keep the sponsors and US Sailing happy.  Don't get blackballed for hosting events because of an outdated social position?

Could it become a slippery slope?  Outside of visual displays, (like flags and such) and restrictions on membership due to sex/color/religion or environmental issues, (say your club has a small yard for boat work and is dumping oil/paint into the water or something similar) what else could there be?

 

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The issue is like a flying Duck that just got his by buckshot.    We have all seen this (Even if it was just on TV) and the result is always the same.    A flapping mess of duck nosedives into a pond.   Then a retriever paddles out, collects said duck and drops it ashore.  The retriever gets a hug, the shooter takes pride in the shot, the duck is dead.

 

CORA Burgee was all talked out on these very pages back when the flag came down five? years ago.   CORA is a dead duck and we are just waiting for the Retriever on shore.  

This is not going to be ANY different than any issue coming out of the Civil War post 1865.    The Duck is gonna die badly.

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5 minutes ago, Kent H said:

The issue is like a flying Duck that just got his by buckshot.    We have all seen this (Even if it was just on TV) and the result is always the same.    A flapping mess of duck nosedives into a pond.   Then a retriever paddles out, collects said duck and drops it ashore.  The retriever gets a hug, the shooter takes pride in the shot, the duck is dead.

 

CORA Burgee was all talked out on these very pages back when the flag came down five? years ago.   CORA is a dead duck and we are just waiting for the Retriever on shore.  

This is not going to be ANY different than any issue coming out of the Civil War post 1865.    The Duck is gonna die badly.

Well I certainly hope not.  Having been a member and sitting on the board about 7 years ago I know the organization is full of fine men and women who really love sailing and having a good time.  Of those members I know I would expect a very quick resolution to this, (other clubs maybe not so much).  CORA provides many chances to sail for newbies interested in the sport.  More than all other YC's on the harbor combined.  The fact that they have brought up the burgee issue on their own on at least one other occasion shows they are at least forward thinking enough on social concerns to look into this without being prodded.  As I mentioned before I'll bet the "old guard" rallied their "it's tradition" member friends up for the vote while the younger more progressive members stayed at home on the couch.  Sound familiar???  Either way I'm sure 90% of them were not expecting the shit storm that has come from it.

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These little organizations collapse because the members who hold up the organization are just like legs on a table.    If you take out enough of the tables legs the whole damn table topples over.   The loss of Sperry or even not having CRW is minor.   These losses may not change the votes of enough members to get rid of a Burgee.  

Right now there are 37 members who are having to decide if membership in CORA is worth being exposed during an HR debacle.   Whether that debacle is about something said, a relationship, denied promotion etc etc and yes etc!!!    Even someone who is retired likely does not want to worry about membership in CORA being used against them in a dispute.   Members who are exposed will try to make some form of public statement that they voted to change the Burgee only to find that is never enough.  

So sit back and enjoy the show.   Post great or comedic insights, include some pictures.   I got nothing left to offer but sarcastic comedy .   If you don't enjoy it ....tough.  I was the sixth poster on this site when the Editor was carrying on conversations between himself.   

 

BTW. Robbie you are an advocate and I enjoy your posts.  As well as Clean. Keep them coming! 

 

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1 hour ago, Kent H said:

Right now there are 37 members who are having to decide if membership in CORA is worth being exposed during an HR debacle.   Oh crap- that never crossed my mind.  I get your "table legs" analogy now.... 

So sit back and enjoy the show.   Post great or comedic insights, include some pictures.   I got nothing left to offer but sarcastic comedy .   If you don't enjoy it ....tough.  I've picked up on it and thought it funny. 

I was the sixth poster on this site when the Editor was carrying on conversations between himself.   Isn't he still doing quite a bit of this?

 

BTW. Robbie you are an advocate and I enjoy your posts.  Thanks.  As well as Clean. Keep them coming! 

 

 

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On 8/26/2020 at 9:24 AM, Ajax said:

My first sailboat was a Coronado 25. The sail insignia is a Conquistador's head, similar to this burgee. Should I burn the entire boat down to the waterline, or just the mainsail? ;)

You will have to take it to a regatta with sails made of sackcloth.

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1 hour ago, RobbieB said:

 

I have not noticed Scot carrying on a conversation with himself since the earliest days of SA. 

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I was a CORA member and at first sight I knew the burgee resembled the Confederate flag. That's why I never bought one. CORA is full of good people from what I know.

IMHO they have bigger problems that than the burgee. 

Too bad about about Sperry leaving. Hopefully CRW can survive...     

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11 hours ago, SSOCK said:

It is a slippery slope. 

First you change the flag of one club (as a former member of CORA, I do not oppose the idea).

Second, you go after the two (or more) other clubs that will not entertain the thought of women members  or other people not like themselves as members..

Ok, they are Private clubs and are entitled to vote on membership but, where does IT end?

Would they allow LR, Dawg, Squeaky or even Snaggs (shudder..) to be a member?

 

Thank you. It is s slippery slope. pretty soon Lowell North will be out because the North Pole is white and anyone with that name is privileged.

I can only hope people come together and forgot all this Media bullshit.

 

On 8/26/2020 at 1:36 PM, JohnMB said:

I agree, that there was virtually nothing to justify him calling you a racist, but then he did not actually call you a racist, he mere expressed incredulity that you could not see the connection between the burgee and the confederate flag.

 

GMD knows who I am and the history.  Scot and I have known each other since 1974. After my accident I reconnected with him in late 2000.  I was doing my second disabled sailing event at Mission Bay YC. It was really fun as I really got to know some great sailors, people you have no idea about. Scot asked me if I knew anything about the web. I said yea, I did some family shit.  He said, I want to make a sailing site but my Wife's brother is only a graphic person. So he gave me the logo and after a few months we had the basic site and went live in march of 2001 I think. The rest is history that anyone can rewrite, until I hear it is wrong.

 

So when he posted that last bit on the FP.......................... he was calling me (directly) a racist. I know Scot and he is a Val. Look it up.

 

 

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11 hours ago, Meat Wad said:

GMD knows who I am and the history. ......

So when he posted that last bit on the FP.......................... he was calling me (directly) a racist. I know Scot and he is a Val. Look it up.

Fair enough, I have never met either you or Scot.

I'll get out of your private argument.

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