Fantastic masts, and where to find them

[Temptation 5]

At the risk of running aground, ill ask a specific question as requested

Where to find/cut down/construct a 22m wooden mast?

[sledracr 554]

[TUBBY 299]

That was my first thought too.

[Temptation 5]

dont see any fantastic mast wood in that shrubbery

[Al Paca 311]

Easy. Look in your check book. 

[Somebody Else 605]

I'd start with a lumber mill that specializes in clear, close-grain wood. Sitka spruce is nice.

[Meat Wad 539]

When I worked at a boat yard office, we had a couple of sisters that owned several wooden boats. Big classic boats.
They had a company up in the Seattle area make a mast. They got this huge tree from Idaho and made a solid one piece masterpiece.
I cannot remember the name of the company but someone might.

[Sail4beer 2,012]

Oregon

[Rasputin22 2,567]

http://ccrpa.org/km/King's Mark Why The Name King's Mark.htm

 

[Snaggletooth 2,902]

2 hours ago, Temptation said:

At the risk of running aground, ill ask a specific question as requested

Where to find/cut down/construct a 22m wooden mast?

Hay if ist foire a steelle boate juste use telephone polles licke Monteissier on Joshua.  Ussed TPs our plennifulle.   New ounes go to Atlantic Timberes.             

[See Level 674]

They're all over the place, just chose a nice one. Some even already have the spreaders attached.

Plus if you pick one with a creosoted base you not have to worry about rot.

[jesposito 126]

4 hours ago, Temptation said:

At the risk of running aground, ill ask a specific question as requested

Where to find/cut down/construct a 22m wooden mast?

Most people with wooded boat questions over the years, I believe have taken my advise, a 5 gallon gas can and a match gets rid of most all problems.

Carpenter ants work well, but it takes much longer to get rid of the problem 

[Temptation 5]

1 hour ago, Rasputin22 said:

http://ccrpa.org/km/King's Mark Why The Name King's Mark.htm

That was a gem. Thx

[toad 610]

Here a few diy bundles ready to assemble, you'll need your own cardboard, sellotape and string to finish them.

 

[SloopJonB 8,003]

If he does that the top will fall off

 

[Zonker 2,438]

2 hours ago, See Level said:

They're all over the place, just chose a nice one. Some even already have the spreaders attached.

You jest, but in BC I have seen some home built boats with masts that look very suspiciously like a power pole.

[Snaggletooth 2,902]

28 minutes ago, Zonker said:

2 hours ago, See Level said:

They're all over the place, just chose a nice one. Some even already have the spreaders attached.

You jest, but in BC I have seen some home built boats with masts that look very suspiciously like a power pole.

Who wase jokeng?  SL wase reacteng my poeste aboute Monteissier useng telephone polles on Joshua.                                                 

[See Level 674]

Can't go wrong with what Bernie did

[d'ranger 2,552]

There is always pining for the fjords.

[SloopJonB 8,003]

They come with alloy spars.

[SCARECROW 550]

Off the top of my head.  Fremantle, Port Fairy and Manly all have stands of trees planted specifically for this purpose.  I believe if you loose a spar at sea it is acceptable to send the crew ashore in your long boat to cut one down and shape it to your needs.

[ROADKILL666 308]

Try a rain forest

[TUBBY 299]

7 hours ago, Temptation said:

dont see any fantastic mast wood in that shrubbery

Give it time.

[See Level 674]

After exhaustive research I've come to a conclusion...yer screwed

[Swanno 121]

2 hours ago, SCARECROW said:

Off the top of my head.  Fremantle, Port Fairy and Manly all have stands of trees planted specifically for this purpose.  I believe if you loose a spar at sea it is acceptable to send the crew ashore in your long boat to cut one down and shape it to your needs.

I always wondered about the random assortment of Norfolk Island Pines scattered through Fremantle and Rottnest. That explains it. 

[SCARECROW 550]

16 minutes ago, Swanno said:

I always wondered about the random assortment of Norfolk Island Pines scattered through Fremantle and Rottnest. That explains it. 

You need to get yourself along the the maritime museum for some old school learning...

[Temptation 5]

5 hours ago, SCARECROW said:

Off the top of my head.  Fremantle, Port Fairy and Manly all have stands of trees planted specifically for this purpose.  I believe if you loose a spar at sea it is acceptable to send the crew ashore in your long boat to cut one down and shape it to your needs.

Thank you for that nugget. How tall they do they grow?

[FixinGit 110]

[SCARECROW 550]

5 hours ago, Temptation said:

Thank you for that nugget. How tall they do they grow?

[mgs 96]

16 hours ago, Rasputin22 said:

http://ccrpa.org/km/King's Mark Why The Name King's Mark.htm

 

There’s a kids book about the kings broad arrow with some great drawings of how the pine trunks were put between decks  Also explained why New England towns had rounded road intersections...

[Sail4beer 2,012]

On 7/20/2020 at 3:20 PM, Temptation said:

Thank you. Thats an idea I have entertained before, but wondering if anyone has information in the far east

I’m in NJ

 

On 7/20/2020 at 3:33 PM, jesposito said:

23 hours ago, Snaggletooth said:

Who wase jokeng?  SL wase reacteng my poeste aboute Monteissier useng telephone polles on Joshua.                                                 

 When the boom broke on Marilee in 2001 or so while racing Cowes Week, a Frenchman had a telephone pole rigged and hanging on the mast the following morning, allowing them to sweep the overall Classic division. 

[Sail4beer 2,012]

17 hours ago, Temptation said:

Thank you for that nugget. How tall they do they grow?

All the way to the top 

[Schakel 124]

23 hours ago, SloopJonB said:

They come with alloy spars.

Is that a Hallberg Rassy?

 

[hobot 1,866]

On 7/20/2020 at 10:23 AM, Meat Wad said:

When I worked at a boat yard office, we had a couple of sisters that owned several wooden boats. Big classic boats.
They had a company up in the Seattle area make a mast. They got this huge tree from Idaho and made a solid one piece masterpiece.
I cannot remember the name of the company but someone might.

There's a SA member that works in a boat yard in Bellingham Washington, usually hangs out in CA (where this question should have actually been posted) I'm sorry I can't remember his screen time right now, Mr. Perry might know who I'm talking about.

*edit*

found him....send a PM to viktor

 

[Snaggletooth 2,902]

55 minutes ago, Schakel said:

Is that a Hallberg Rassy?

Didde you realley neede to askse?

[longy 457]

21 hours ago, Swanno said:

I always wondered about the random assortment of Norfolk Island Pines scattered through Fremantle and Rottnest. That explains it. 

IIRC Norfolk pine is NOT suitable for spars

[NaptimeAgain 254]

Hard to run wiring and halyards up a tree trunk.  The inside is kinda crowded.

[egon 49]

Toothpicks - 200,000 minimum order:

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Toothpicks-manufacturer-double-point-2-0_60783396313.html

Wood glue - 5 gallon pail

https://www.mcmaster.com/wood-glue/container-type~pail/

I think that's good start, right?

[Temptation 5]

6 hours ago, hobot said:

There's a SA member that works in a boat yard in Bellingham Washington, usually hangs out in CA (where this question should have actually been posted) I'm sorry I can't remember his screen time right now, Mr. Perry might know who I'm talking about.

*edit*

found him....send a PM to viktor

Thanks guys ))

[USA 5184 21]

On 7/20/2020 at 11:30 AM, Temptation said:

At the risk of running aground, ill ask a specific question as requested

Where to find/cut down/construct a 22m wooden mast?

What kind of boat is it? Is the mast a replacement or is this a "I want to build a boat" dream? A solid wood mast on anything other then a tall ship is not going to work. I'm assuming a 22m mast is going on a boat 22m or less? Most wooden spars for pleasure boats are hollow and constructed of regular strips of lumber 

 

[Ed Lada 2,478]

18 hours ago, Sail4beer said:

I’m in NJ

Home of the 'jug handle'.

[Snaggletooth 2,902]

8 minutes ago, Ed Lada said:

18 hours ago, Sail4beer said:

I’m in NJ

Home of the 'jug handle'.

And "the shore"

[Ed Lada 2,478]

3 minutes ago, Snaggletooth said:

And "the shore"

Don't forget the 'Pine Barrens'.

[Temptation 5]

This would be ideal but for the cost

https://www.ericwsponberg.com/wp-content/uploads/engineered-to-stand-alone.pdf

http://www.ericwsponberg.com/free-standing-mast-designs/

perhaps a stayed split mast

[Sail4beer 2,012]

 

A real 8 stave Douglas fir mast with internal blocking top and bottom with a pvc tube wire run the whole length could handle much compression yet not be freestanding and need spreaders and a jackstay.

I built a few massive wooden spars but T won’t know since he has me on ignore

[mad 3,707]

On 7/20/2020 at 8:20 PM, Temptation said:

Thank you. Thats an idea I have entertained before, but wondering if anyone has information in the far east

You couldn’t afford the shipping costs.

[mad 3,707]

20 hours ago, Snaggletooth said:

Didde you realley neede to askse?

Of course he does, it’s a silly question. 

[egon 49]

On 7/22/2020 at 11:58 AM, Ed Lada said:

Don't forget the 'Pine Barrens'.

You people are 'weird'.

[stinky 99]

On 7/20/2020 at 2:22 PM, Zonker said:

You jest, but in BC I have seen some home built boats with masts that look very suspiciously like a power pole.

@Temptation why not a steel light pole? It's been done before.

[heavym210 10]

On 7/21/2020 at 5:41 AM, mgs said:

There’s a kids book about the kings broad arrow with some great drawings of how the pine trunks were put between decks  Also explained why New England towns had rounded road intersections...

Didn’t know that was a kids book...shit

I bought it at the wooden boat store a few years ago. Great book and illustrations.   

 

 

 

[Sail4beer 2,012]

On 7/22/2020 at 11:58 AM, Ed Lada said:

Don't forget the 'Pine Barrens'.

Those hot steamy pine barrens give us our sea breeze! Heat from the pines goes straight up and sucks in air off the ocean like an air conditioned vacuum!!! Steady 12-15 all afternoon!!

[Sail4beer 2,012]

2 hours ago, stinky said:

@Temptation why not a steel light pole? It's been done before.

He wants to think a little further outside the box..

[mgs 96]

1 hour ago, heavym210 said:

Didn’t know that was a kids book...shit

I bought it at the wooden boat store a few years ago. Great book and illustrations.   

 

 

 

We are talking about this one, no?

https://www.amazon.com/Kings-Broad-Arrow-Kathryn-Goodwin/dp/1734002808/ref=asc_df_1734002808/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=416693595291&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=15790082768122762233&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9002711&hvtargid=pla-875191259449&psc=1&language=en_US&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=94182732616&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=416693595291&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=15790082768122762233&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9002711&hvtargid=pla-875191259449
 

it’s possible I’m thinking of a placemat I read at dinner...

[Gissie 817]

On 7/24/2020 at 1:19 PM, Sail4beer said:

He wants to think a little further outside the box..

Not sure he does much of the thinking part.

[Temptation 5]

On 7/24/2020 at 5:56 AM, stinky said:

@Temptation why not a steel light pole? It's been done before.

Thanks for the suggestion. Yes, but this is a kids play structure that will have many things screwed to it )

and I guess wood doesnt rust as fast 

[Sail4beer 2,012]

On 7/20/2020 at 11:30 AM, Temptation said:

At the risk of running aground, ill ask a specific question as requested

Where to find/cut down/construct a 22m wooden mast?

For a kid’s play platform?

Why not an aluminum light pole? Doesn’t rust and you can drill the shit out of and screw anything you want to it. 

dumass can’t even read this ‘cause I’m on his ever growing ignore list. He’s almost at 100 

[troll99 446]

On 7/20/2020 at 6:38 PM, Temptation said:

dont see any fantastic mast wood in that shrubbery

look at your cock.. perhaps it is time to cut. Tomowrrow it is 22 m long. 

[44forty 162]

1 hour ago, troll99 said:

look at your cock.. perhaps it is time to cut. Tomowrrow it is 22 m long. 

Coxswain

[Sail4beer 2,012]

15 hours ago, Temptation said:

Thanks for the suggestion. Yes, but this is a kids play structure that will have many things screwed to it )

and I guess wood doesnt rust as fast 

Actually, you shouldn’t be near kids or any humans, fucko.

[Gissie 817]

16 hours ago, Temptation said:

Thanks for the suggestion. Yes, but this is a kids play structure that will have many things screwed to it )

and I guess wood doesnt rust as fast 

It rots quicker than steel.

[See Level 674]

https://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/bpo/d/lake-stevens-boat-steel-mask/7166193589.html

[Kevlar Edge 3]

I have more then one to choose from in the spar shed. The boss grabbed them before a salvage company cut them up.

They are all for sale. PM me for details and pics if you’re  interested. Located on City Island NY

[Sail4beer 2,012]

Watch it. Temptation might be a mighty Snag in your sock drawer

[slug zitski 240]

On 7/20/2020 at 11:36 AM, sledracr said:

The high quality timber comes from the highest quality saw mill.  supplier

These suppliers X-ray the raw log , determine interior condition then cut the log to best utilize the defect free timber 

 

you must ask  around to find a high quality supplier 

 

 

 

 

[Slick470 130]

On 7/25/2020 at 5:47 AM, Temptation said:

-snip- Yes, but this is a kids play structure that will have many things screwed to it ) -snip-

I think if you started the thread with this little nugget of information, you might have gotten much better answers to your question.  

[Ed Lada 2,478]

2 hours ago, slug zitski said:

These suppliers X-ray the raw log , determine interior condition then cut the log to best utilize the defect free timber 

Well, I have to admit they should get some kind of award for using the music they did.  I never thought a virtual view of a log being sawed into lumber would get my heart racing!

Very cool technology, I wonder how much it all costs.