Temptation 5 #1 Posted July 20, 2020 At the risk of running aground, ill ask a specific question as requested Where to find/cut down/construct a 22m wooden mast? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TUBBY 304 #3 Posted July 20, 2020 That was my first thought too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Temptation 5 #4 Posted July 20, 2020 dont see any fantastic mast wood in that shrubbery Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Al Paca 328 #5 Posted July 20, 2020 Easy. Look in your check book. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somebody Else 614 #6 Posted July 20, 2020 I'd start with a lumber mill that specializes in clear, close-grain wood. Sitka spruce is nice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meat Wad 559 #7 Posted July 20, 2020 When I worked at a boat yard office, we had a couple of sisters that owned several wooden boats. Big classic boats. They had a company up in the Seattle area make a mast. They got this huge tree from Idaho and made a solid one piece masterpiece. I cannot remember the name of the company but someone might. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rasputin22 2,652 #9 Posted July 20, 2020 http://ccrpa.org/km/King's Mark Why The Name King's Mark.htm  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snaggletooth 3,015 #10 Posted July 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Temptation said: At the risk of running aground, ill ask a specific question as requested Where to find/cut down/construct a 22m wooden mast? Hay if ist foire a steelle boate juste use telephone polles licke Monteissier on Joshua. Ussed TPs our plennifulle.  New ounes go to Atlantic Timberes.       Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
See Level 701 #11 Posted July 20, 2020 They're all over the place, just chose a nice one. Some even already have the spreaders attached. Plus if you pick one with a creosoted base you not have to worry about rot. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jesposito 133 #12 Posted July 20, 2020 4 hours ago, Temptation said: At the risk of running aground, ill ask a specific question as requested Where to find/cut down/construct a 22m wooden mast? Most people with wooded boat questions over the years, I believe have taken my advise, a 5 gallon gas can and a match gets rid of most all problems. Carpenter ants work well, but it takes much longer to get rid of the problem Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Temptation 5 #13 Posted July 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Rasputin22 said: http://ccrpa.org/km/King's Mark Why The Name King's Mark.htm That was a gem. Thx Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toad 688 #14 Posted July 20, 2020 Here a few diy bundles ready to assemble, you'll need your own cardboard, sellotape and string to finish them. Â Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,290 #15 Posted July 20, 2020 If he does that the top will fall off  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zonker 2,652 #16 Posted July 20, 2020 2 hours ago, See Level said: They're all over the place, just chose a nice one. Some even already have the spreaders attached. You jest, but in BC I have seen some home built boats with masts that look very suspiciously like a power pole. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snaggletooth 3,015 #17 Posted July 20, 2020 28 minutes ago, Zonker said: 2 hours ago, See Level said: They're all over the place, just chose a nice one. Some even already have the spreaders attached. You jest, but in BC I have seen some home built boats with masts that look very suspiciously like a power pole. Who wase jokeng? SL wase reacteng my poeste aboute Monteissier useng telephone polles on Joshua.                         Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
See Level 701 #18 Posted July 20, 2020 Can't go wrong with what Bernie did Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
d'ranger 2,658 #19 Posted July 20, 2020 There is always pining for the fjords. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,290 #20 Posted July 20, 2020 They come with alloy spars. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCARECROW 582 #21 Posted July 20, 2020 Off the top of my head. Fremantle, Port Fairy and Manly all have stands of trees planted specifically for this purpose. I believe if you loose a spar at sea it is acceptable to send the crew ashore in your long boat to cut one down and shape it to your needs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ROADKILL666 323 #22 Posted July 20, 2020 Try a rain forest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TUBBY 304 #23 Posted July 21, 2020 7 hours ago, Temptation said: dont see any fantastic mast wood in that shrubbery Give it time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
See Level 701 #24 Posted July 21, 2020 After exhaustive research I've come to a conclusion...yer screwed 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swanno 142 #25 Posted July 21, 2020 2 hours ago, SCARECROW said: Off the top of my head. Fremantle, Port Fairy and Manly all have stands of trees planted specifically for this purpose. I believe if you loose a spar at sea it is acceptable to send the crew ashore in your long boat to cut one down and shape it to your needs. I always wondered about the random assortment of Norfolk Island Pines scattered through Fremantle and Rottnest. That explains it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCARECROW 582 #26 Posted July 21, 2020 16 minutes ago, Swanno said: I always wondered about the random assortment of Norfolk Island Pines scattered through Fremantle and Rottnest. That explains it. You need to get yourself along the the maritime museum for some old school learning... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Temptation 5 #27 Posted July 21, 2020 5 hours ago, SCARECROW said: Off the top of my head. Fremantle, Port Fairy and Manly all have stands of trees planted specifically for this purpose. I believe if you loose a spar at sea it is acceptable to send the crew ashore in your long boat to cut one down and shape it to your needs. Thank you for that nugget. How tall they do they grow? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCARECROW 582 #29 Posted July 21, 2020 5 hours ago, Temptation said: Thank you for that nugget. How tall they do they grow? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mgs 97 #30 Posted July 21, 2020 16 hours ago, Rasputin22 said: http://ccrpa.org/km/King's Mark Why The Name King's Mark.htm  There’s a kids book about the kings broad arrow with some great drawings of how the pine trunks were put between decks  Also explained why New England towns had rounded road intersections... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sail4beer 2,078 #31 Posted July 21, 2020 On 7/20/2020 at 3:20 PM, Temptation said: Thank you. Thats an idea I have entertained before, but wondering if anyone has information in the far east I’m in NJ  On 7/20/2020 at 3:33 PM, jesposito said: 23 hours ago, Snaggletooth said: Who wase jokeng? SL wase reacteng my poeste aboute Monteissier useng telephone polles on Joshua.                          When the boom broke on Marilee in 2001 or so while racing Cowes Week, a Frenchman had a telephone pole rigged and hanging on the mast the following morning, allowing them to sweep the overall Classic division. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sail4beer 2,078 #32 Posted July 21, 2020 17 hours ago, Temptation said: Thank you for that nugget. How tall they do they grow? All the way to the top Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Schakel 125 #33 Posted July 21, 2020 23 hours ago, SloopJonB said: They come with alloy spars. Is that a Hallberg Rassy? Â Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hobot 1,927 #34 Posted July 21, 2020 On 7/20/2020 at 10:23 AM, Meat Wad said: When I worked at a boat yard office, we had a couple of sisters that owned several wooden boats. Big classic boats. They had a company up in the Seattle area make a mast. They got this huge tree from Idaho and made a solid one piece masterpiece. I cannot remember the name of the company but someone might. There's a SA member that works in a boat yard in Bellingham Washington, usually hangs out in CA (where this question should have actually been posted) I'm sorry I can't remember his screen time right now, Mr. Perry might know who I'm talking about. *edit* found him....send a PM to viktor  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snaggletooth 3,015 #35 Posted July 21, 2020 55 minutes ago, Schakel said: Is that a Hallberg Rassy? Didde you realley neede to askse? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
longy 481 #36 Posted July 21, 2020 21 hours ago, Swanno said: I always wondered about the random assortment of Norfolk Island Pines scattered through Fremantle and Rottnest. That explains it. IIRC Norfolk pine is NOT suitable for spars 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NaptimeAgain 261 #37 Posted July 21, 2020 Hard to run wiring and halyards up a tree trunk. Â The inside is kinda crowded. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egon 49 #38 Posted July 21, 2020 Toothpicks - 200,000 minimum order: https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Toothpicks-manufacturer-double-point-2-0_60783396313.html Wood glue - 5 gallon pail https://www.mcmaster.com/wood-glue/container-type~pail/ I think that's good start, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Temptation 5 #39 Posted July 22, 2020 6 hours ago, hobot said: There's a SA member that works in a boat yard in Bellingham Washington, usually hangs out in CA (where this question should have actually been posted) I'm sorry I can't remember his screen time right now, Mr. Perry might know who I'm talking about. *edit* found him....send a PM to viktor Thanks guys )) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USA 5184 21 #40 Posted July 22, 2020 On 7/20/2020 at 11:30 AM, Temptation said: At the risk of running aground, ill ask a specific question as requested Where to find/cut down/construct a 22m wooden mast? What kind of boat is it? Is the mast a replacement or is this a "I want to build a boat" dream? A solid wood mast on anything other then a tall ship is not going to work. I'm assuming a 22m mast is going on a boat 22m or less? Most wooden spars for pleasure boats are hollow and constructed of regular strips of lumber  1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Lada 2,537 #41 Posted July 22, 2020 18 hours ago, Sail4beer said: I’m in NJ Home of the 'jug handle'. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snaggletooth 3,015 #42 Posted July 22, 2020 8 minutes ago, Ed Lada said: 18 hours ago, Sail4beer said: I’m in NJ Home of the 'jug handle'. And "the shore" 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Lada 2,537 #43 Posted July 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, Snaggletooth said: And "the shore" Don't forget the 'Pine Barrens'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Temptation 5 #44 Posted July 22, 2020 This would be ideal but for the cost https://www.ericwsponberg.com/wp-content/uploads/engineered-to-stand-alone.pdf http://www.ericwsponberg.com/free-standing-mast-designs/ perhaps a stayed split mast Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sail4beer 2,078 #45 Posted July 22, 2020  A real 8 stave Douglas fir mast with internal blocking top and bottom with a pvc tube wire run the whole length could handle much compression yet not be freestanding and need spreaders and a jackstay. I built a few massive wooden spars but T won’t know since he has me on ignore 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mad 3,826 #46 Posted July 22, 2020 On 7/20/2020 at 8:20 PM, Temptation said: Thank you. Thats an idea I have entertained before, but wondering if anyone has information in the far east You couldn’t afford the shipping costs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mad 3,826 #47 Posted July 22, 2020 20 hours ago, Snaggletooth said: Didde you realley neede to askse? Of course he does, it’s a silly question. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egon 49 #48 Posted July 23, 2020 On 7/22/2020 at 11:58 AM, Ed Lada said: Don't forget the 'Pine Barrens'. You people are 'weird'. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stinky 114 #49 Posted July 23, 2020 On 7/20/2020 at 2:22 PM, Zonker said: You jest, but in BC I have seen some home built boats with masts that look very suspiciously like a power pole. @Temptation why not a steel light pole? It's been done before. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heavym210 11 #50 Posted July 24, 2020 On 7/21/2020 at 5:41 AM, mgs said: There’s a kids book about the kings broad arrow with some great drawings of how the pine trunks were put between decks  Also explained why New England towns had rounded road intersections... Didn’t know that was a kids book...shit I bought it at the wooden boat store a few years ago. Great book and illustrations.      Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sail4beer 2,078 #51 Posted July 24, 2020 On 7/22/2020 at 11:58 AM, Ed Lada said: Don't forget the 'Pine Barrens'. Those hot steamy pine barrens give us our sea breeze! Heat from the pines goes straight up and sucks in air off the ocean like an air conditioned vacuum!!! Steady 12-15 all afternoon!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sail4beer 2,078 #52 Posted July 24, 2020 2 hours ago, stinky said: @Temptation why not a steel light pole? It's been done before. He wants to think a little further outside the box.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mgs 97 #53 Posted July 24, 2020 1 hour ago, heavym210 said: Didn’t know that was a kids book...shit I bought it at the wooden boat store a few years ago. Great book and illustrations.      We are talking about this one, no? https://www.amazon.com/Kings-Broad-Arrow-Kathryn-Goodwin/dp/1734002808/ref=asc_df_1734002808/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=416693595291&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=15790082768122762233&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9002711&hvtargid=pla-875191259449&psc=1&language=en_US&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=94182732616&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=416693595291&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=15790082768122762233&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9002711&hvtargid=pla-875191259449  it’s possible I’m thinking of a placemat I read at dinner... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gissie 930 #54 Posted July 25, 2020 On 7/24/2020 at 1:19 PM, Sail4beer said: He wants to think a little further outside the box.. Not sure he does much of the thinking part. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Temptation 5 #55 Posted July 25, 2020 On 7/24/2020 at 5:56 AM, stinky said: @Temptation why not a steel light pole? It's been done before. Thanks for the suggestion. Yes, but this is a kids play structure that will have many things screwed to it ) and I guess wood doesnt rust as fast Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sail4beer 2,078 #56 Posted July 25, 2020 On 7/20/2020 at 11:30 AM, Temptation said: At the risk of running aground, ill ask a specific question as requested Where to find/cut down/construct a 22m wooden mast? For a kid’s play platform? Why not an aluminum light pole? Doesn’t rust and you can drill the shit out of and screw anything you want to it. dumass can’t even read this ‘cause I’m on his ever growing ignore list. He’s almost at 100 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
troll99 446 #57 Posted July 25, 2020 On 7/20/2020 at 6:38 PM, Temptation said: dont see any fantastic mast wood in that shrubbery look at your cock.. perhaps it is time to cut. Tomowrrow it is 22 m long. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
44forty 162 #58 Posted July 25, 2020 1 hour ago, troll99 said: look at your cock.. perhaps it is time to cut. Tomowrrow it is 22 m long. Coxswain Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sail4beer 2,078 #59 Posted July 26, 2020 15 hours ago, Temptation said: Thanks for the suggestion. Yes, but this is a kids play structure that will have many things screwed to it ) and I guess wood doesnt rust as fast Actually, you shouldn’t be near kids or any humans, fucko. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gissie 930 #60 Posted July 26, 2020 16 hours ago, Temptation said: Thanks for the suggestion. Yes, but this is a kids play structure that will have many things screwed to it ) and I guess wood doesnt rust as fast It rots quicker than steel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
See Level 701 #61 Posted July 27, 2020 https://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/bpo/d/lake-stevens-boat-steel-mask/7166193589.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevlar Edge 3 #62 Posted July 28, 2020 I have more then one to choose from in the spar shed. The boss grabbed them before a salvage company cut them up. They are all for sale. PM me for details and pics if you’re  interested. Located on City Island NY Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sail4beer 2,078 #63 Posted July 28, 2020 Watch it. Temptation might be a mighty Snag in your sock drawer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slug zitski 286 #64 Posted July 28, 2020 On 7/20/2020 at 11:36 AM, sledracr said: The high quality timber comes from the highest quality saw mill.  supplier These suppliers X-ray the raw log , determine interior condition then cut the log to best utilize the defect free timber  you must ask  around to find a high quality supplier     Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slick470 141 #65 Posted July 28, 2020 On 7/25/2020 at 5:47 AM, Temptation said: -snip- Yes, but this is a kids play structure that will have many things screwed to it ) -snip- I think if you started the thread with this little nugget of information, you might have gotten much better answers to your question.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Lada 2,537 #66 Posted July 28, 2020 2 hours ago, slug zitski said: These suppliers X-ray the raw log , determine interior condition then cut the log to best utilize the defect free timber Well, I have to admit they should get some kind of award for using the music they did. I never thought a virtual view of a log being sawed into lumber would get my heart racing! Very cool technology, I wonder how much it all costs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites