sailor bum 0 #1 Posted July 23, 2020 Anybody out there know anything about the X-119 built by X-Yachts in Denmark? I'm thinking of buying one. I've heard that they have a welded steel frame bonded into the hull to handle keel loads. I'm worried that on a 30 year old boat there will be corrosion problems. Any info would be welcome Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
d'ranger 2,536 #2 Posted July 23, 2020 I don't have time right now but try doing a search in this forum for the x-119 as I remember it being discussed including the grid you asked about. I sailed and raced on one years ago and liked it, remember it being tweaky and well constructed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boatcat65 5 #3 Posted July 23, 2020 Here's a thread. I've been looking at them too. Have tried getting some specifics about the one on Seattle Craigslist but no luck- don't think he really wants to sell- has been advertised for years. And at any rate its in tough shape. When I last looked at it the viewing window for the keel had fallen out (it's on the hard). I could see water damage from leaky windows and the keel grid was needing help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mikel_new 6 #4 Posted July 23, 2020 The X-119 is a beautifull boat, and very well built by X-yachts, with an Inox structure as was the case for all X until recently. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stealth 3 #5 Posted July 23, 2020 9 hours ago, sailor bum said: Anybody out there know anything about the X-119 built by X-Yachts in Denmark? I'm thinking of buying one. I've heard that they have a welded steel frame bonded into the hull to handle keel loads. I'm worried that on a 30 year old boat there will be corrosion problems. Any info would be welcome You can find the brochure for the X-119 here: https://3brefc126v633i9r4zk9q3p5-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/X-119-brochure.pdf There is a X-yacht owners club with a large technical library where I am sure you can get a lot answers: https://x-yachtsowners.co.uk/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 7,933 #6 Posted July 23, 2020 Every boat I've ever heard of with a steel grid has eventually had to have it replaced. Some like old Cals just had a beam or a small structure but those X-boats have a big and elaborate one that would be a huge job to replace. I wouldn't go near one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cristoforo 341 #7 Posted July 23, 2020 4 hours ago, SloopJonB said: Every boat I've ever heard of with a steel grid has eventually had to have it replaced. I wouldn't go near one. But of course this is from an ignorant data source with the quality of knowledge you would expect to get on an anonymous free of charge website, so the opinion is worth as much, and the buyer shouldn't be concerned following even a most perfunctory survey. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pehrst 1 #8 Posted July 29, 2020 On 7/23/2020 at 8:18 PM, Cristoforo said: But of course this is from an ignorant data source with the quality of knowledge you would expect to get on an anonymous free of charge website, so the opinion is worth as much, and the buyer shouldn't be concerned following even a most perfunctory survey. I agree, I have not heard of a single X-Yacht who had their integral keel grid replaced (sure there must be some) , they had used this since 1980 (650 built since). mine was built in 1985 and showed no sign of coming apart from the hull, not even rust, they were if I recall correctly hot galvanized and simply glassed into the hull. A 3/4 tonner had a bumpy ride from Fl to Chicago had the forward end cracked from the hull however this was simply remedied. Earlier in the thread, someone mentioned the windows, beware they will all leak and needs to be rebedded, not an easy task to make it last. Butyl tape came to my rescue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crashdog 186 #9 Posted July 29, 2020 The keels themselves were a bigger problem with the 119s, because they were composite, cast iron fin and lead bulb which creates several problems. But the internal grid is sound as far as I know. Do a thorough moisture test during the survey. The tin rig is getting on in life by now, and although they were tree trunks, have a long look there, also. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pehrst 1 #10 Posted July 29, 2020 On 7/23/2020 at 8:18 PM, Cristoforo said: But of course this is from an ignorant data source with the quality of knowledge you would expect to get on an anonymous free of charge website, so the opinion is worth as much, and the buyer shouldn't be concerned following even a most perfunctory survey. Crashdog, Out of curiosity, what on earth would cause lead and cast iron keels create any problems, this has been used for 30 years by many builders? Pehr Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slug zitski 236 #11 Posted July 29, 2020 X- yachts uses Jeffa aluminum rudder stocks and aluminum self aligning bearings pull the rudder and inspect at survey a new rudder and bearing is a good way to tear up ten grand Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sailor bum 0 #12 Posted July 30, 2020 Slug, Thanks for the tip on the rudder post and bearings. I'll be sure to have the surveyor pull the rudder and check. She has a tiller, not a wheel so this should be relatively easy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gkny 8 #13 Posted July 30, 2020 I redid the rudder bearing on an x boat with an aluminum post. Jeffa has bearings for many of the x boats. Be very careful with wiring in and around the binnacle. The post on my boat had no signs of corrosion or wear Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slug zitski 236 #14 Posted July 30, 2020 1 hour ago, gkny said: I redid the rudder bearing on an x boat with an aluminum post. Jeffa has bearings for many of the x boats. Be very careful with wiring in and around the binnacle. The post on my boat had no signs of corrosion or wear Typically the damage is caused by copper oxide antifoul do not use copper oxide antifoul on boats with underwater or wet aluminum Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
