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prolly J34.  The j41 at least won the overall SORC

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Don’t shoot the messenger, but if you go off sales numbers for their size range, apparently it’s the J90 and J125. 

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J-28 - both the boat and the one here with the handle.

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J/95 was a non-starter, sadly.

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1 hour ago, d'ranger said:

The J24 is a bruise cruiser.

A little box of pain.

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On the other hand, some of their better designs must include the J22 and its bigger version, the J27.

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The J/90 and J/125 are universally loved because so few people have sailed them.

The J/24 is universally loathed because so many people have sailed them.

That said, the people who sail J/24s are among the nicest people around. One even donated their boat to my school's sailing team. If anyone tries that shit again, I'll rename the boat Gom Jabbar.

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4 minutes ago, apophenia said:

The J/90 and J/125 are universally loved because so few people have sailed them.

The J/24 is universally loathed because so many people have sailed them.

That said, the people who sail J/24s are among the nicest people around. One even donated their boat to my school's sailing team. If anyone tries that shit again, I'll rename the boat Gom Jabbar.

There are 20 of the little soul-crushing pain boxes racing outside my window right now.  Such a terrible boat, people keep on sailing them all over the world a half century after they first launched. 

Idjits.  

Oh wait, I owned one too!

 

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6 minutes ago, apophenia said:

The J/90 and J/125 are universally loved because so few people have sailed them.

The J/24 is universally loathed because so many people have sailed them.

That said, the people who sail J/24s are among the nicest people around. One even donated their boat to my school's sailing team. If anyone tries that shit again, I'll rename the boat Gom Jabbar.

To be fair, I was joking with my post. Those are awesome boats, it’s just that no one bought them. 

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"BDSM can be broken into three subcategories: Bondage/Discipline, Dominance/Submission, and Sadism/Masochism," Jean tells Elite Daily. "This is the overall umbrella under which most kinks fall. It can contain all elements or only one. BDSM holds no space for judgment."

But first , you have to race a J 24...............

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25 minutes ago, apophenia said:

The J/90 and J/125 are universally loved because so few people have sailed them.

The J/24 is universally loathed because so many people have sailed them.

That said, the people who sail J/24s are among the nicest people around. One even donated their boat to my school's sailing team. If anyone tries that shit again, I'll rename the boat Gom Jabbar.

So true. Never sail the 125, but I sailed a 90 quite a bit. Awesome boat, but with something like six in existence, zero fleets. Hate to admit it, but the boat I drive 2 to 3 times a week is the 24. After all these years, it still is the biggest OD fleet we have. The boats are all equally slow and it really boils down to sailing, picking the next shift, etc, and crew work. It's great fun. A real love/hate relationship. 

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6 hours ago, bloodshot said:

prolly J34.  The j41 at least won the overall SORC

Only because Charlie Scott and his boys were on it (the 41).

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12 hours ago, Varan said:

A little box of pain.

And a cleat for every ass.

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Surprised no one nominated the J39, the most un-JBoat they have produced.

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did they chop up the J41 to make the J39?  

 

the J34C is weird....almost looks like an Cal from a distance

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16 hours ago, Snaggletooth said:

J 34 (C?) lookes licke an IOR missteppe

problem with the J34 is that it took 10 people on the rail to go slower than a J35 or a J29. just painful all around.

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18 hours ago, Matagi said:

J/95 was a non-starter, sadly.

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But an awesome boat. Practical and fun.

 

15 hours ago, Navig8tor said:

"BDSM can be broken into three subcategories: Bondage/Discipline, Dominance/Submission, and Sadism/Masochism," Jean tells Elite Daily. "This is the overall umbrella under which most kinks fall. It can contain all elements or only one. BDSM holds no space for judgment."

But first , you have to race a J 24...............

Why would anyone pay a lady in leather to whip & beat you, when you can sail a J-24 instead?

Absolutely a pain box, with vermiculite as a bonus

FB- Doug

 

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1 hour ago, Steam Flyer said:

But an awesome boat. Practical and fun.

 

Why would anyone pay a lady in leather to whip & beat you, when you can sail a J-24 instead?

Absolutely a pain box, with vermiculite as a bonus

FB- Doug

 

The point I make is that after racing a J24 Paying a Lady in leather to whip and beat you would be a pleasant experience by comparison.

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My favorite is the J/125 and least favorite is the J/BDSM.  Below is my list of J boats I have raced on.  Missing more than a few including most of the new breed - 88, 111, 121, 122.

JY15
J/22
J/24
J/27
J/29 MHOB
J/29 MHIB
J/29 FOB
J/30
J/33
J/34 (3/4T)
J/35
J/37
J/40
J/41
J/44
J/47
J/70
J/80
J/92
J/92S
J/105
J/120
J/125
J/145

I think that is all of them.
MS

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22 hours ago, SloopJonB said:

J-28 - both the boat and the one here with the handle.

Ding! That was it. Thanks, Jon. Social distance drinking with some Annapolis sailors yesterday, and mentioned the 105 that Alarius has, and someone started on that's what they wanted next ... and it was on. I just couldn't come up with the J28 as the ugly duck. I haven't been on any of the bigger boats but I love the 24 meself. My old club had an active fleet.  As Varan noted,

... Hate to admit it, but the boat I drive 2 to 3 times a week is the 24. After all these years, it still is the biggest OD fleet we have. The boats are all equally slow and it really boils down to sailing, picking the next shift, etc, and crew work. It's great fun. A real love/hate relationship. 

PHRFect

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Mr. Squirrel said:

I think that is all of them.

65 and 160

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3 hours ago, Retired BN said:
4 hours ago, 'Bacco said:

From J/Boats own website.

j41.jpg

It happens. 

Only to people who don't label the corners of their sails.

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The Owner probably didn't want the bowman to "ruin" his new sail by labeling the corners because he thought ti would look bad in photos.

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5 hours ago, 'Bacco said:

From J/Boats own website.

j41.jpg

The original blooper, just set on the wrong side.

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1 hour ago, SloopJonB said:

Only to people who don't label the corners of their sails.

You wante instructiones on howe to do life???

 

Welle, they our notte availabelle.............    at thisse time.........               :)

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5 hours ago, Mr. Squirrel said:

My favorite is the J/125 and least favorite is the J/BDSM.  Below is my list of J boats I have raced on.  Missing more than a few including most of the new breed - 88, 111, 121, 122.

JY15
J/22
J/24
J/27
J/29 MHOB
J/29 MHIB
J/29 FOB
J/30
J/33
J/34 (3/4T)
J/35
J/37
J/40
J/41
J/44
J/47
J/70
J/80
J/92
J/92S
J/105
J/120
J/125
J/145

I think that is all of them.
MS

Think you missed the J133...loved that boat! Wolf in sheeps clothing!

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On 8/18/2020 at 2:44 PM, Matagi said:

J/95 was a non-starter, sadly.

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Or similar j/108. I happen to like them both 

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2 hours ago, Couta said:

Think you missed the J133...loved that boat! Wolf in sheeps clothing!

J110 as well. 

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14 hours ago, bloodshot said:

problem with the J34 is that it took 10 people on the rail to go slower than a J35 or a J29. just painful all around.

And 14 on the taffrail to ieep from broac hing

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3 hours ago, Couta said:

Think you missed the J133...loved that boat! Wolf in sheeps clothing!

To clarify - that is all that I have raced on.  I know I have missed more than a few.

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On 8/18/2020 at 4:07 PM, Snaggletooth said:

J 34 (C?) lookes licke an IOR missteppe

Snaggs brotha...the 34c is really a well built well appointed fast cruiser. The 34 is the joe missteppe 

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On 8/19/2020 at 4:01 PM, climenuts said:

65 and 160

The 160 is a really  great short handed world cruiser 

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If I could wipe the J28 and the J32 out of my memory banks I’d be ok with that 

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1 hour ago, dacapo said:

The 34 is the joe missteppe 

Yes, thack you bro.                                                :)

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1 hour ago, dacapo said:

The 160 is a really  great short handed world cruiser 

A friend of mine built one and did just that!

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2 hours ago, dacapo said:

The 160 is a really  great short handed world cruiser 

Yup. Electric winches go whirrrrrr.

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J24 and J29.

 

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I don't know unless you mean the J everyone loves to hate. That is of course the J105. 

Yeah sailed on one too. 

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except for the fact that the 109 more or less can't completely outsail a J35 which is 20 years her junior, I've never heard much hate about the 109. Personally, they are my favorite racer/cruiser J boat going.

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I got an earful from a J37 I think shoal draft.   The boat then the Shoal Draft.  Now it was only one owner so unless anyone else here wants to rant keep this in mind. 

 

Say this with a Russian Accent

" All Jboats good boots,  No bad J Boats ever!" 

 

As for sales the J112 sold one boat.   

 

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On 8/19/2020 at 8:18 AM, bloodshot said:

problem with the J34 is that it took 10 people on the rail to go slower than a J35 or a J29. just painful all around.

This and the 28, (same "Cruiser/Racer lineage) was a total pig.  Not many were ever able to figure out the 27.

Now the 33 was a rocket and 29 MOB model well sailed was very hard to beat in PHRF.  Surprisingly the 22 is a great PHRF boat too.

 

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1 minute ago, jsaronson said:

J 33.  Bendy rig is a complete PIA to sail well.

Not true, I have one

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On 8/19/2020 at 5:18 AM, bloodshot said:

problem with the J34 is that it took 10 people on the rail to go slower than a J35 or a J29. just painful all around.

I'm not sure why people focus on LOA in judging the J/34.

The 34 wasn't designed to be a fast 34 footer - it was designed to be a fast 3/4 Ton.  Big difference.  The 35 and 29 would both rate higher under IOR,  so it would be expected they would be faster.  Back then IOR was the only thing that really mattered in anything resembling serious handicap racing.  And level class racing was also something you don't see today other than maybe the TP52s

Mind you, it doesn't sound like the 34 was a particularly fast 3/4 Ton either.  But probably faster than some slightly earlier generation 3/4 Ton pintails.  Lighter with more horsepower.

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