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26 minutes ago, badlatitude said:

There is no body cam they are not funded until 2022.

Fortunately there seem to be 10 or more witnesses . This was not a 30 sec event.

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1 hour ago, warbird said:

Fortunately there seem to be 10 or more witnesses . This was not a 30 sec event.

You’re just so happy another black man won’t be carrying, eh? Proud of those Kenosha boys, aincha?!

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On 8/24/2020 at 11:22 PM, badlatitude said:

Shooting someone in the back has long been the ultimate display of cowardice. From my perspective, it would have been easier, and safer, to simply pull him out of the front seat by the scruff of his neck considering he had three kids in the back seat.

I agree it looks bad and why the fuck had all three cops drawn their weapons? Unfortunately the video clip is too short to give context and therefore make proper assessment. 

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Black man doesn't follow the narrative says shooting was justified. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2Sp8EIHu1A

 

If you don't fight with the police and comply with what they ask it reduces your chance of being shot by 99.9999%

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11 hours ago, Ishmael said:

Bullshit. Have you ever been to Canada? Know anything besides "America's Hat"?

 

8 hours ago, AJ Oliver said:

Actually, downtown Canada is appreciably better that Gringolandia. 

How about if you provide some sources to back up you views? 


https://www.cbc.ca/firsthand/m_blog/dont-believe-the-hype-canada-is-not-a-nation-of-cultural-tolerance

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/14/canada-systemic-racism-history
 

https://globalnews.ca/news/7029694/canada-systemic-racism/
 

I could keep going but....   

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3 hours ago, Venom said:

I agree it looks bad and why the fuck had all three cops drawn their weapons?

Possibly because of the fight?

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2 minutes ago, Cacoethesic Tom said:

Possibly because of the fight?

Odd that wasn't included in the video propaganda clip. 

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3 hours ago, Venom said:

I agree it looks bad and why the fuck had all three cops drawn their weapons? Unfortunately the video clip is too short to give context and therefore make proper assessment. 

 

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3 hours ago, Mohammed Bin Lyin said:

Black man doesn't follow the narrative says shooting was justified. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2Sp8EIHu1A

 

If you don't fight with the police and comply with what they ask it reduces your chance of being shot by 99.9999%

 

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Another loinfomo bites the dust!

dumb as fuck !

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3 hours ago, Venom said:

I agree it looks bad and why the fuck had all three cops drawn their weapons? Unfortunately the video clip is too short to give context and therefore make proper assessment. 

What happened to the good old billy club and a hit on the noggin? Sometimes I scratch my head in amazement.

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10 minutes ago, BravoBravo said:

 

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Note he's not wearing a mask!!! 

Biden and the prosecutor Harris want to make wearing masks compulsory even when you are alone and outside. 

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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-26/jacob-blake-protest-kenosha-wisconsin-shooting-one-dead/12599002

Two dead as gunfire erupts at Wisconsin protests over shooting of black man

They're like a vigilante group'

The Kenosha protests have drawn self-styled armed militias to patrol the streets.

Usually white men, they have weapons slung over their shoulders or at the ready while standing guard outside businesses to protect them from looters or arsonists.

"They're like a vigilante group," Mr Beth told the Journal Sentinel, though he said he was unsure if the man at the centre of the outburst was linked to such a group.

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Just now, Shortforbob said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-26/jacob-blake-protest-kenosha-wisconsin-shooting-one-dead/12599002

Two dead as gunfire erupts at Wisconsin protests over shooting of black man

Yep.. protecting their private property and their own lives from angry mob... seems to work as the mob stopped 

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22 minutes ago, badlatitude said:

What happened to the good old billy club and a hit on the noggin? Sometimes I scratch my head in amazement.

Probably banned along with choke holds.  Which ironically if used when he was trying to open the car door,  might have prevented the shooting. 

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/08/26/jacob-blake-kenosha-police-protests/

KENOSHA, Wis. — Two people were killed and one was seriously wounded by gunfire late Tuesday at a protest over the police shooting of Jacob Blake Jr., Kenosha police said early Wednesday.

The shootings came after a confrontation between protesters and armed men who said they were protecting a gas station, the New York Times reported. Kenosha County Sheriff David Beth told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel that police are searching for a man seen in video footage holding a long gun.

 

“I feel very confident we’ll have him in a very short time,” Beth said.

Shots were fired around 11:45 p.m. Tuesday, police said. After the first shots, a young White man carrying a rifle began running north on Sheridan Road, away from a crowd of protesters. Video shows the armed man fall to the ground and then fire multiple rounds into the crowd. Two more people fell to the ground, one shot in the arm and the other in the chest, the Journal Sentinel reported. Another graphic video shows a man with blood running down the back of his neck and bystanders shouting that he had been shot in the head.

 
 

Carol Badoni from Burlington, Wis., started CPR on one wounded man. His girlfriend said his name is Ben.

“He definitely was not breathing,” said Badoni, 50. “His eyes were rolled back in his head. There was no pulse.”

Badoni added, “I never run toward trouble, but it’s worth getting shot for somebody else.”

Police soon took Ben to a nearby hospital. Kenosha police have not yet identified any of the shooting victims.

Beth told the Times that investigators are looking into the armed men in front of the gas station, who were recorded before the shooting arguing with protesters. One of the men told The Washington Post that he was there to stop people from breaking into local businesses, noting that he had seen rumors online about pipe bombs being used.

“If the cops aren’t going to stop them from throwing pipe bombs on innocent civilians, somebody has to,” said an armed man in a red checkered shirt, who declined to give his name. (There’s no indication that any pipe bombs were involved in Tuesday’s unrest.)

 

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/08/26/jacob-blake-kenosha-police-protests/

“Ain’t nothing being done. We’re the only ones,” said Joe, 29, a U.S. Marine veteran. “This is nonsense,” he said, scanning the crowd, adding that others like him were around Kenosha Tuesday night. “Three thousand of us are armed and ready,” he said.

 

Kenosha has been beset by violence, looting and fires since Sunday, when Blake, a 29-year-old Black man, was shot several times in the back by Kenosha police as he stepped into a car with his children inside. Earlier on Tuesday, Blake’s family said he is paralyzed and still in critical condition, while his mother pleaded for peaceful protests. But the family also chastised police, saying they systematically brutalize Black people.

 
 

“They shot my son seven times,” said Jacob Blake Sr., his father. “Seven times. Like he didn’t matter. But my son matters. He’s a human being, and he matters.”

From the start of Tuesday’s protests, armed civilians were evident in the crowd, bearing handguns, AR-15-style rifles, knives and military flak jackets. In interviews, they declined to give their full names. Like some others, Dennis, 22, from Racine, Wis., said he showed up with his pistol to protect himself and other protesters.

“Nothing is going to change,” he said, hanging back from the crowd. “This is all for nothing.”

Another man, brandishing a handgun, showed up after a call on Facebook to protect the city.

 

“Ain’t nothing being done. We’re the only ones,” said Joe, 29, a U.S. Marine veteran. “This is nonsense,” he said, scanning the crowd, adding that others like him were around Kenosha Tuesday night. “Three thousand of us are armed and ready,” he said.

 

After multiple buildings burned and stores were looted on Monday, police on Tuesday night made it harder for people to enter Kenosha. Seven consecutive exit ramps were closed on Interstate 94, and the city’s sprawling outlet mall was boarded up.

In downtown Kenosha, however, the only law enforcement presence was once again around the Kenosha County Courthouse, where an eight-foot-high fence was erected around the building. About 1,000 protesters gathered outside the barrier, and besides occasional chanting, the scene was quiet at first.

 

“A lot of fear in the air because of the threats to protesters,” said Nathan, 28, a Kenosha resident who declined to give his last name.

“It’s hard to see now, but it will be a positive thing,” he said of the protests. “It’ll bring Kenosha back together. Kenosha has always been a resilient place. It’ll continue to happen.”

After some protesters began vigorously shaking the fence and setting off fireworks aimed at officers on the other side, Kenosha County police officers atop the courthouse shot tear gas pellets and rubber bullets into the crowd. Around 9:20 p.m., a military vehicle entered the park, dispersing more tear gas. Protesters shot fireworks, both on the ground and into the courthouse steps.

Flares go off in front of a Kenosha Country Sheriff vehicle on Tuesday as demonstrators protest after the police shooting of Jacob Blake in Kenosha, Wis.
Flares go off in front of a Kenosha Country Sheriff vehicle on Tuesday as demonstrators protest after the police shooting of Jacob Blake in Kenosha, Wis. (Brendan McDermid/Reuters)

By 10 p.m., after pushing protesters away from the fence, about 70 police officers in riot gear formed a line across the park outside the courthouse as clouds of tear gas continued to drift toward the crowd.

 
 

Police pushed protesters to Sheridan Road after 11 p.m., where law enforcement in armored trucks blocked the street. Nearby, the confrontation brewed with armed men at the gas station. Within an hour, the street exploded into chaos and bloodshed as the gunshots rang out.

Beth, the sheriff, told the Journal Sentinel that armed militia members have been on the streets in recent nights, calling them a “vigilante group.”

After the shooting, he told the Times that the bloodshed validated his concerns about armed civilians.

“I’ve had people saying, ‘Why don’t you deputize citizens?’” he said. “This is why you don’t deputize citizens with guns to protect Kenosha.”

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7 minutes ago, Shortforbob said:

 

WTF, do they want to burn down the filling station? BOOM!

And where are the cops? Are they afraid to go out?

No wonder first time gun buyer sales are going thru the roof! 

This is insane. 

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1 minute ago, Venom said:

WTF, do they want to burn down the filling station? BOOM!

And where are the cops? Are they afraid to go out?

No wonder first time gun buyer sales are going thru the roof! 

This is insane. 

You are correct, this is insane

Beth, the sheriff, told the Journal Sentinel that armed militia members have been on the streets in recent nights, calling them a “vigilante group.”

After the shooting, he told the Times that the bloodshed validated his concerns about armed civilians.

“I’ve had people saying, ‘Why don’t you deputize citizens?’” he said. “This is why you don’t deputize citizens with guns to protect Kenosha.”

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DF liberals still defending the loinfomo that was shot !

 

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2 hours ago, Snore said:

I did not write that there is no racism in Canada. In fact, to my experience, every country in the world in which two or more ethnic groups co-exist has ethnic tension. 

But Canada is better than the US in many respects including life expectancy, lower poverty rates, and much else. 

And Canada is not led by a narcissistic lunatic who openly stokes racial hatred. 

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3 hours ago, AJ Oliver said:

I did not write that there is no racism in Canada. In fact, to my experience, every country in the world in which two or more ethnic groups co-exist has ethnic tension. 

But Canada is better than the US in many respects including life expectancy, lower poverty rates, and much else. 

And Canada is not led by a narcissistic lunatic who openly stokes racial hatred. 

Pick a point and stay to it.  

You asked for proof and you got it.  Canukistan is not perfect America is not perfect.  No where is perfect.  Our prez is an asshole— we all get that.  
 

Add something to the dialog and stop the mouth breathing.  
 

 

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6 minutes ago, Snore said:

Pick a point and stay to it.  

My point, to which I will stick, was simply this:

"Actually, downtown Canada is appreciably better that Gringolandia." 

And I provided metrics to back it up. 

Read much ? 

But in fact, the Canadian police are WAAAAAAY better than the US police in not shooting civilians. 

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/why-canadian-police-are-so-good-at-not-shooting-people

Maybe you owe Mr. @Keith an apology, doncha think? 

(Actually, a number of posts here have wandered well away from the OP - including several of mine.) 

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12 minutes ago, AJ Oliver said:

"Actually, downtown Canada is appreciably better that Gringolandia Gringo AJ Oliver old white totalitarian cunt meltdown landia." 

FIFY.

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30 minutes ago, Venom said:

FIFY.

Always the punk - all the while studiously ignoring the evidence 

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19 hours ago, badlatitude said:

The occasion of that tragedy was a no knock warrant, when the police knocked( I thought they had a no knock warrant)

Maybe you can find a cut-n-paste that you won't read that explains what it means.

19 hours ago, badlatitude said:

Seven rounds In the back at point blank range is going to end up a criminal offense.

Yeah, they should of just let him get whatever out of the car. What could go wrong?

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18 minutes ago, bpm57 said:

Maybe you can find a cut-n-paste that you won't read that explains what it means.

Yeah, they should of just let him get whatever out of the car. What could go wrong?

The story is evolving as they usually do.  
Blake was the reason the police were called

He was not helping break up a domestic disturbance  he was the domestic disturbance 

He had a warrant out for his arrest. 

The police were trying to arrest him for that warrant and he was notified by the police.  At that point he was required to obey them. 

The police on site knew his record which included firearms violations, sexual assault and domestic violence. 
 

He resisted arrest and tried to escape.   I’m not convinced he should have been shot, but he was not some good Samaritan stopping a fight, that was just trying to get back to his kids. 

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17 minutes ago, The Joker said:

He resisted arrest and tried to escape.   I’m not convinced he should have been shot,

That’s the socialist lover of state violence AGITC loves. Maybe @Burning Man could join you and make a Fallwell of Jackboot loving?

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52 minutes ago, bpm57 said:

Maybe you can find a cut-n-paste that you won't read that explains what it means.

Yeah, they should of just let him get whatever out of the car. What could go wrong?

Me? You’re the one who is confused

He was getting into a car with his three kids in the back seat. Maybe you should have read up first.

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Kenosha police opened fire less than 5 minutes after being called: scanner audio

According to the audio obtained by Madison365, someone called police to report that Blake was at her home and wasn’t supposed to be, and that he had taken her keys and was refusing to give them back. A dispatcher relayed this message to patrol officers at about 5:11 pm Sunday.

 

About 30 seconds later, she let patrol officers know that there was “an alert at this address for a 99 for this subject,” apparently to indicate that a warrant had been issued for Blake’s arrest. Court records indicate a warrant was issued on three charges — two misdemeanors and one G-class felony — on July 7. Court records indicate no previous criminal charges in the state of Wisconsin.

About a minute after the initial call, the dispatcher indicated that Blake was leaving the premises, and that the woman who had initially called had hung up.

Just five minutes after the initial call, an officer can be heard reporting shots fired, and the dispatcher acknowledged the report. Additional officers were then dispatched to the scene, with another officer asking responding officers to verify that the officers initially on the scene were ok.

About 40 seconds after the report that shots had been fired, an officer on the scene requests “rescue ASAP,” presumably for Blake. About two minutes after the shots fired call, another officer reported that all officers on the scene are ok.

https://madison365.com/kenohsa-police-opened-fire-less-than-5-minutes-after-being-called-scanner-audio/

 

The police were called because Jacob was misbehaving they were aware he had a warrant for his arrest.

 

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21 hours ago, Cacoethesic Tom said:
On 8/26/2020 at 4:51 AM, Venom said:

I agree it looks bad and why the fuck had all three cops drawn their weapons?

Possibly because of the fight?

Or the warrant and the knife. Maybe not knowing whether he was going after a gun in the vehicle?

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2 hours ago, Cacoethesic Tom said:

Or the warrant and the knife. Maybe not knowing whether he was going after a gun in the vehicle?

Suicide by cop? 

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Dan O'Donnell

Preliminary Evidence Suggests Jacob Blake Shooting was Justified


By Dan O'DonnellAug 27, 2020

The Wisconsin Department of Justice on Wednesday thoroughly debunked several myths that have already arisen about the shooting of Jacob Blake by a Kenosha Police officer.

First, Blake was not "trying to break up a fight between two women." He was, according to Wisconsin Attorney General Josh Kaul, trespassing on his girlfriend's property.

"Kenosha Police Department officers were dispatched to a residence in the 2800 block of 40th Street after a female caller reported that her boyfriend [Blake] was present and was not supposed to be on the premises," Kaul said.
Second, officers did not "immediately escalate the situation" and "immediately use deadly force.""Law enforcement deployed a taser to attempt to stop Mr. Blake, however the taser was not successful in stopping Mr. Blake," Kaul explained.Third, Blake was not unarmed."During the investigation following the initial incident, Mr. Blake admitted that he had a knife in his possession," Kaul said. "Division of Criminal Investigation agents recovered a knife from the driver’s side floorboard of Mr. Blake’s vehicle."Blake was either reaching for that knife when Kaul said he "opened the driver’s side door" of his SUV "and leaned forward." Kaul made sure to add that detail because it was clear that Blake was not, as the unfounded narrative has suggested, trying to get into his vehicle and peacefully drive away. He was lunging for something that the officer reasonably believed to be a weapon--either the knife that was recovered or another weapon such as a gun that was potentially in the vehicle.After wrestling with and tasing an extremely combative Blake, video of the incident captured someone on the increasingly chaotic scene repeatedly screaming something that sounds like either "get my son" or "get my gun." At that point, Blake began walking purposefully to the driver's side of his car.Another video of the incident which has gone viral and prompted days of rioting in Kenosha shows officers repeatedly yelling at Blake to "drop the knife." The man who shot that video confirmed this."I heard them telling him, 'Drop the knife' when I was recording, and looking, I didn't see a knife," the man who shot that video told FOX 6 News in Milwaukee. "I was looking at his hands. When they said, 'Drop the knife,' I didn't see one."His video, however, seems to tell a different story. At exactly seven seconds in, the video clearly shows Blake holding something in his left hand, which he then tries to conceal in his pants. Could it have been a deeply curved blade known as a Karambit Knife?

Kaul did not describe the knife that Blake admitted he had and did not say whether Blake had the knife in his hand when he was fighting with officers, but the video seems to show that he did. This would explain why the officers trained their guns on him and did not attempt to tackle him or otherwise prevent him from walking toward the SUV.

A potentially armed and definitely violent man was now walking purposefully toward a vehicle as someone was screaming about getting a gun. Making matters even more dangerous, numerous children were in the vehicle. Since officers were called to the scene for a domestic dispute, it was entirely reasonable to believe that those children would be in danger. Blake had an outstanding arrest warrant for criminal trespass and third degree sexual assault.

According to a criminal complaint, in May he illegally entered his girlfriend's apartment, found her on a bed, and told her "I want my s***." As she "lay there, on her back, the defendant, suddenly and without warning, reached his hand between her legs, penetrated her vaginally with a finger, pulled it out and sniffed it, and said, 'Smells like you've been with other men.'"

Her young son was sleeping next to her at the time.

Blake then allegedly stole her SUV and debit card before making "two fraudulent ATM withdrawals." As a result of this, Blake was "not supposed to be" at the home, which Kaul noted in his press conference Wednesday.

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His prior conduct (which may or may not have been known to officers on the scene Sunday) suggested that he would have no problem engaging in extreme criminal conduct in front of his children, and walking either with a knife or to get his knife put both them and the officers in danger.

When Blake opened the SUV's door, he did not calmly enter but rather "leaned forward," as Kaul put it. Video showed him clearly lunging for something inside the vehicle (either the knife or what the officer reasonably feared was another weapon).

The officer, of course, couldn't let him do that, and pulled his shirt to keep him from reaching whatever it is he was reaching for and then opened fire until the threat (Blake arming himself or striking with the knife already in his hand) was neutralized.

Law enforcement officers are authorized to use deadly force when they perceive that a subject is an imminent threat of causing the officer or another person death or substantial bodily harm. Given that Blake had just physically fought officers, potentially had a knife in his hand, and was lunging for something in a vehicle full of children, he clearly presented an imminent threat.

Once an imminent threat is established, law enforcement officers are authorized to use force necessary to neutralize that threat--meaning that firing a service weapon as many times as necessary to stop the threat is justified. If it took seven shots to neutralize the imminent threat that Jacob Blake posed to the officers or children (or anyone else on the scene, for that matter), then shooting Blake seven times would be justified.

It isn't yet clear whether that shooting will be ruled justified, but the immediately available evidence seems to suggest that it was.

 
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10 hours ago, warbird said:

According to a criminal complaint, in May he illegally entered his girlfriend's apartment, found her on a bed, and told her "I want my s***." As she "lay there, on her back, the defendant, suddenly and without warning, reached his hand between her legs, penetrated her vaginally with a finger, pulled it out and sniffed it, and said, 'Smells like you've been with other men.'"

Kinky. I wonder how he knows what other men smell like?

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16 hours ago, Cacoethesic Tom said:

Kinky. I wonder how he knows what other men smell like?

Not real sure.  

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On 8/28/2020 at 3:24 PM, Fakenews said:

Looks like the police can be shamed into doing the right thing (eventually) the cuffs have been removed and the warrant against Blake has been vacated with extreme predjudice.


Hah! Something sorta like that happened.

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...Cafferty said an underlying arrest warrant for Blake has been vacated. The Milwaukee County Sheriff's Office, which assisted Kenosha police, said Blake was released from custody and deputies were no longer guarding Blake after he posted bond for the warrant.

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On 8/25/2020 at 10:23 PM, badlatitude said:

The police shot Breonna Taylor eight times and then let her bleed out for twenty minutes until her lungs filled with blood and she drowned. The occasion of that tragedy was a no knock warrant, when the police knocked( I thought they had a no knock warrant) Breonna Taylor yelled at the top of her lungs asking who it was, when they didn't reply, her boyfriend grabbed his weapon and responded when they came through the door. I look forward to an honest depiction of that event.

This will likely surprise no one.

No officers charged directly with Breonna Taylor’s death, one officer indicted for shooting into neighboring apartments

No body cam footage to settle the dispute about how it all went down.  And - 

Louisville police release Breonna Taylor incident report – it lists her injuries as "none"

Yeah.  This smells to high heaven - separate from the $12 million payout.

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1 hour ago, Bus Driver said:

This will likely surprise no one.

No officers charged directly with Breonna Taylor’s death, one officer indicted for shooting into neighboring apartments

No body cam footage to settle the dispute about how it all went down.  And - 

Louisville police release Breonna Taylor incident report – it lists her injuries as "none"

Yeah.  This smells to high heaven - separate from the $12 million payout.

Trouble is brewing as a result. I can't but wonder if this was a deliberate move to provoke? Too convenient for a president running on a law and order platform.

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52 minutes ago, badlatitude said:

Trouble is brewing as a result. I can't but wonder if this was a deliberate move to provoke? Too convenient for a president running on a law and order platform.

Well, it IS Kentucky.  Senate Majority Leader McConnell is likely chuckling.

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Just now, Bus Driver said:

Well, it IS Kentucky.  Senate Majority Leader McConnell is likely chuckling.

Especially if it spreads.

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2 hours ago, Bus Driver said:

This will likely surprise no one.

No officers charged directly with Breonna Taylor’s death, one officer indicted for shooting into neighboring apartments

No body cam footage to settle the dispute about how it all went down.  And - 

Louisville police release Breonna Taylor incident report – it lists her injuries as "none"

Yeah.  This smells to high heaven - separate from the $12 million payout.

Why because “say her name” became a movement?   The police reacted to being shot at, her friend ( not the drug dealer having packages delivered to her address) reacted to persons breaking into the apartment.

Lots of problems - the no knock warrant,  if the police did or did not announce themselves, the police overreacting, but any honest person would see this as a tragic accident not a deliberate murder. 

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6 minutes ago, The Joker said:

but any honest person would see this as a tragic accident not a deliberate murder. 

Man, the joke is saying Louisville Police and DA are not honest, and I agree.

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58 minutes ago, The Joker said:

Why because “say her name” became a movement?   The police reacted to being shot at, her friend ( not the drug dealer having packages delivered to her address) reacted to persons breaking into the apartment.

Lots of problems - the no knock warrant,  if the police did or did not announce themselves, the police overreacting, but any honest person would see this as a tragic accident not a deliberate murder. 

The police claim it was not a "forced entry".  But, eyewitnesses tell of, and photographs support, them having used a battering ram.

The officers were issued body cams.  Strangely, none were activated.

The incident report is nearly blank and lists Ms. Taylor's injuries as "none".

Sounds like the police are having trouble with the truth.

Something is truly rotten about this.  

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37 minutes ago, Bus Driver said:

The police claim it was not a "forced entry".  But, eyewitnesses tell of, and photographs support, them having used a battering ram.

The officers were issued body cams.  Strangely, none were activated.

The incident report is nearly blank and lists Ms. Taylor's injuries as "none".

Sounds like the police are having trouble with the truth.

Something is truly rotten about this.  

So the Grand Jury and the KY African American AG is in on the fix?

 This is Ferguson all over again.  The Grand Jury decided based on the evidence and the law, not the rumor mill on what charges if any should apply.   
I heard the AG say there was a witness that backed up the police version. 

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1 hour ago, Bus Driver said:

Well, it IS Kentucky.  Senate Majority Leader McConnell is likely chuckling.

Along with Rand 

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7 minutes ago, dacapo said:

Along with Rand 

This Rand Paul? 
 

WASHINGTON, D.C. (WBKO) – Today, U.S. Senator Rand Paul (R-KY) introduced the Justice for Breonna Taylor Act to prohibit no-knock warrants, which allow law enforcement officials to forcibly enter a home without announcing their authority or purpose. 

The bill is named in memory and honor of Breonna Taylor, a Louisville resident and EMT who was killed during a police raid on her home in March 2020, which was conducted under the authority of a no-knock warrant.

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8 minutes ago, The Joker said:

This Rand Paul? 
 

WASHINGTON, D.C. (WBKO) – Today, U.S. Senator Rand Paul (R-KY) introduced the Justice for Breonna Taylor Act to prohibit no-knock warrants, which allow law enforcement officials to forcibly enter a home without announcing their authority or purpose. 

The bill is named in memory and honor of Breonna Taylor, a Louisville resident and EMT who was killed during a police raid on her home in March 2020, which was conducted under the authority of a no-knock warrant.

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That’s @Cacoethesic Toms grandstanding bitch Rand. You deep throating the friend of Vlad to?

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53 minutes ago, The Joker said:

This Rand Paul? 
 

WASHINGTON, D.C. (WBKO) – Today, U.S. Senator Rand Paul (R-KY) introduced the Justice for Breonna Taylor Act to prohibit no-knock warrants, which allow law enforcement officials to forcibly enter a home without announcing their authority or purpose. 

The bill is named in memory and honor of Breonna Taylor, a Louisville resident and EMT who was killed during a police raid on her home in March 2020, which was conducted under the authority of a no-knock warrant.

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This Rand Paul?

He got completely owned by Fauci.  
 

Paul

“ Isn’t it true that low case counts in NY is due to herd immunity?

Fauci

“If you think 22% is herd immunity I believe you are alone in that assessment”

 

Fucking quack.

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1 hour ago, The Joker said:

So the Grand Jury and the KY African American AG is in on the fix?

 This is Ferguson all over again.  The Grand Jury decided based on the evidence and the law, not the rumor mill on what charges if any should apply.   
I heard the AG say there was a witness that backed up the police version. 

Are you always willing to overlook glaring inconsistencies and falsehoods from law enforcement?

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49 minutes ago, Bus Driver said:

Are you always willing to overlook glaring inconsistencies and falsehoods from law enforcement?

That was a silly question for Joker Valve. He will spew something irrevalent {sic} in short order. 

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7 hours ago, Bus Driver said:

This will likely surprise no one.

No officers charged directly with Breonna Taylor’s death, one officer indicted for shooting into neighboring apartments

No body cam footage to settle the dispute about how it all went down.  And - 

Louisville police release Breonna Taylor incident report – it lists her injuries as "none"

Yeah.  This smells to high heaven - separate from the $12 million payout.

Spend a little time researching the Breonna Taylor incident. 

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Now about that long lost OP . . . 

There have been 500 violent attacks on BLM and other social justice demonstrators since the late spring. 

And it's not news on FAUX or hate radio. 

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2 hours ago, Bus Driver said:

Are you always willing to overlook glaring inconsistencies and falsehoods from law enforcement?

They are only glaring in your mind obviously the Grand Jury thought otherwise.  What falsehoods?   Once the friend fired at police and actually shot an officer all bets are off the police have every right to defend themselves. 
The issue shouldn’t be the police. It’s the warrant that should examined.  Who requested it, who approved it? Why the delay in enforcing it? Why no knock?

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3 hours ago, The Joker said:

They are only glaring in your mind obviously the Grand Jury thought otherwise.  What falsehoods?   Once the friend fired at police and actually shot an officer all bets are off the police have every right to defend themselves. 
The issue shouldn’t be the police. It’s the warrant that should examined.  Who requested it, who approved it? Why the delay in enforcing it? Why no knock?

This :mehthis:

 

and this

The police reacted to being shot at, her friend ( not the drug dealer having packages delivered to her address) reacted to persons breaking into the apartment.

Where are you getting your information and why am I not seeing this anywhere?

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On 8/26/2020 at 9:59 AM, B.J. Porter said:

And Breonna Taylor was asleep in her bed.

President Trump abruptly exited his news conference Wednesday at the White House, saying he had an “emergency” phone call as reporters continued to press him with questions on the Breonna Taylor case.

"I have to leave for an emergency phone call," Trump said before leaving the briefing.  "I'll be back. I'll see you tomorrow"

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-emergency-call-breonna-taylor-case

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10 hours ago, The Joker said:

This Rand Paul? 
 

WASHINGTON, D.C. (WBKO) – Today, U.S. Senator Rand Paul (R-KY) introduced the Justice for Breonna Taylor Act to prohibit no-knock warrants, which allow law enforcement officials to forcibly enter a home without announcing their authority or purpose. 

The bill is named in memory and honor of Breonna Taylor, a Louisville resident and EMT who was killed during a police raid on her home in March 2020, which was conducted under the authority of a no-knock warrant.

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It was pretty funny when non-readers were yelling at him to say her name. He already said it in a way that would be useful but that irritates drug warriors and other authoritarians, which is why Bull Gator's answer to this post is to distract with another issue.

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4 hours ago, Shortforbob said:

This :mehthis:

 

and this

The police reacted to being shot at, her friend ( not the drug dealer having packages delivered to her address) reacted to persons breaking into the apartment.

Where are you getting your information and why am I not seeing this anywhere?

Seriously?   If you do not know the basic info of this case I suggest you read up on it before commenting again.  

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8 hours ago, The Joker said:

It’s the warrant that should examined.  Who requested it, who approved it? Why the delay in enforcing it? Why no knock?

Drug warriors with a history of fiascos requested it.

Judge Mary Shaw approved it, along with four others, in 12 minutes.

Not sure what delay you're asking about.

The answer to question two kinda answers question four, but to restate the obvious: because valuing evidence over lives is SOP in the stupid drug war.

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9 hours ago, warbird said:
16 hours ago, Bus Driver said:

This will likely surprise no one.

No officers charged directly with Breonna Taylor’s death, one officer indicted for shooting into neighboring apartments

No body cam footage to settle the dispute about how it all went down.  And - 

Louisville police release Breonna Taylor incident report – it lists her injuries as "none"

Yeah.  This smells to high heaven - separate from the $12 million payout.

Spend a little time researching the Breonna Taylor incident. 

Is there something inaccurate in what I posted? 

Is there a problem with citing an article about the Grand Jury not filing charges except on the case of bullets causing drywall damage and the risk to a white family living next door (but, not the black family living upstairs)?  Granted I didn't include details of the two other families.  But, that has been established.

Is there a problem with mentioning the fact that the police were issued body cams, and have used them on prior occasions, but none were turned on in this situation? 

Is there a problem with pointing out how the incident report was mostly blank and listed her injuries as "none"?

Is there a problem with mentioning the $12 million payment to the family of Breonna Tayor?

Is any of that inaccurate?  Please enlighten us.

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On 8/24/2020 at 9:22 PM, Venom said:

Though it’s hard to keep cool when being harassed by the police if you resist, they will at bare minimum beat your ass and charge you with resisting arrest (guilty or not) and you are going to spend some time being locked up as in most cases the judge will believe the cops over the victim. In worst case scenario you will be shot multiple times in the back.  :((

I never fuck with the cops. I respect their job, and most are great, but there’s one in every town who is a moron with a small dick and a gun. I got pulled over last week and I was worried as usual, pissed off, wanted to say WTF this is bullshit, but held still, dealt with it, drove away, screamed at my windshield, and paid the damn fine. It’s way worse for black guys. You have to keep your shit together. 

They shouldn’t shoot in one of these stops unless the guy has a gun in hand or another weapon that is an immediate threat. Then, empty the clip. In the back, front sides, whatever. But other than that there is no excuse, no matter what the guys record looks like. Nonetheless, moron + small dick + gun = you better not take your chances.

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1 hour ago, The Joker said:

Seriously?   If you do not know the basic info of this case I suggest you read up on it before commenting again.  

From what I read, there were no packages.

How dare you imply that the woman was fencing drugs.

You're as bad as the cops and their non existent injuries.

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14 minutes ago, Shortforbob said:

From what I read, there were no packages.

How dare you imply that the woman was fencing drugs.

You're as bad as the cops and their non existent injuries.

Then you haven’t read enough.  That was one of the reasons for the warrant 


I never implied anything like you are claiming.  It’s pretty simple read up on the story before making shit up 

So the cop shot in the leg really wasn’t shot? 

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1 minute ago, The Joker said:

So the cop shot in the leg really wasn’t shot? 

Of course he was. That’s why they charged Kenneth Walker with attempted murder for shooting the cop in the leg.

Oh, wait, you are going to bullshit that away aren’t you?

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2 minutes ago, The Joker said:

Then you haven’t read enough.  That was one of the reasons for the warrant 
 

I never implied anything like you are claiming.  It’s pretty simple read up on the story before making shit up 

So the cop shot in the leg really wasn’t shot? 

An intruder was shot .

Specifically, the warrant alleges that in January 2020, Glover left Taylor's apartment with an unknown package, presumed to be drugs, and subsequently went to a known drug apartment with this package soon afterward. This warrant states that this event was verified "through a US Postal Inspector." In May 2020, the U.S. postal inspector in Louisville publicly announced that the collaboration with law enforcement had never actually occurred. The postal office stated they were actually asked to monitor packages going to Taylor's apartment from a different agency, but after doing so, they concluded, "There's [sic] no packages of interest going there." The public revelation put the investigation and especially the warrant into question and resulted in an internal investigation.[16] No drugs were found in Taylor's apartment after the warrant was executed.

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3 minutes ago, Shortforbob said:
10 minutes ago, The Joker said:

Then you haven’t read enough.  That was one of the reasons for the warrant 
 

I never implied anything like you are claiming.  It’s pretty simple read up on the story before making shit up 

So the cop shot in the leg really wasn’t shot? 

An intruder was shot .

Specifically, the warrant alleges that in January 2020, Glover left Taylor's apartment with an unknown package, presumed to be drugs, and subsequently went to a known drug apartment with this package soon afterward. This warrant states that this event was verified "through a US Postal Inspector." In May 2020, the U.S. postal inspector in Louisville publicly announced that the collaboration with law enforcement had never actually occurred. The postal office stated they were actually asked to monitor packages going to Taylor's apartment from a different agency, but after doing so, they concluded, "There's [sic] no packages of interest going there." The public revelation put the investigation and especially the warrant into question and resulted in an internal investigation.[16] No drugs were found in Taylor's apartment after the warrant was executed.

You don't really think that will sway The Joker, do you?

He knows what he knows and any facty factual facts are not going to interfere with him knowing what he nose.  You no?

Word choice entirely intentional.

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39 minutes ago, loneshark64 said:

I never fuck with the cops. I respect their job, and most are great, but there’s one in every town who is a moron with a small dick and a gun. I got pulled over last week and I was worried as usual, pissed off, wanted to say WTF this is bullshit, but held still, dealt with it, drove away, screamed at my windshield, and paid the damn fine. It’s way worse for black guys. You have to keep your shit together. 

They shouldn’t shoot in one of these stops unless the guy has a gun in hand or another weapon that is an immediate threat. Then, empty the clip. In the back, front sides, whatever. But other than that there is no excuse, no matter what the guys record looks like. Nonetheless, moron + small dick + gun = you better not take your chances.

sad. Seemingly the USA has been ripe for a dictatorship for some time now. Just waiting for the lead actor to arrive.

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1 hour ago, Bus Driver said:

You don't really think that will sway The Joker, do you?

He knows what he knows and any facty factual facts are not going to interfere with him knowing what he nose.  You no?

Word choice entirely intentional.

You are ascribing an honesty and good faith to the joke he does not possess. He lies on purpose.

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10 hours ago, The Joker said:

They are only glaring in your mind obviously the Grand Jury thought otherwise.  What falsehoods?   Once the friend fired at police and actually shot an officer all bets are off the police have every right to defend themselves. 
The issue shouldn’t be the police. It’s the warrant that should examined.  Who requested it, who approved it? Why the delay in enforcing it? Why no knock?

IIRC that while it was a no knock warrant, the police did knock. Just something I saw recently.

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7 minutes ago, warbird said:

IIRC that while it was a no knock warrant, the police did knock. Just something I saw recently.

This would be a lie from wardoltchicken.

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1 hour ago, Bus Driver said:

You don't really think that will sway The Joker, do you?

He knows what he knows and any facty factual facts are not going to interfere with him knowing what he nose.  You no?

Word choice entirely intentional.

Sway me about what?   Her fucking cite backs up my point. The warrant was issued because it was claimed that packages were being sent to her house by the former boy friend. 
I’m on record saying the issue is the warrant

She also claimed no cop was shot 

Do you agree with that? 

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5 minutes ago, Mismoyled Jiblet. said:

This would be a lie from wardoltchicken.

Relaying something I saw is not a lie.

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