Sean 2,109 #201 Posted September 30, 2020 22 minutes ago, Mike G said: He told the white supremests to stand down and stand by. Pretty blatant. Close. He didn’t say “stand down”, he said “stand back”. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 5,747 #202 Posted September 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, Sean said: Close. He didn’t say “stand down”, he said “stand back”. He should have prefaced that with "Hold my beer". I tried watching it, but I got to the fourteen second mark and just gave up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DustyDreamer 268 #203 Posted September 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, Sean said: Close. He didn’t say “stand down”, he said “stand back”. Pretty convinced it was the usual diarrheic nonsense but the net effect is what matters. They took it that way and their local, state, and federal LE enablers are happy to enable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AJ Oliver 1,166 #204 Posted September 30, 2020 Just to be clear - because the Drumph will not correct it . . Mike Reese @SheriffReese In tonight’s presidential debate the President said the “Portland Sheriff” supports him. As the Multnomah County Sheriff I have never supported Donald Trump and will never support him. 7:29 PM · Sep 29, 2020 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sea warrior 264 #205 Posted September 30, 2020 26 minutes ago, AJ Oliver said: You posted two young women behaving badly; by highlighting it you show yourself to be worse than them. And pathetic punk that you are, you even had to go back seven years to find it. You poor pathetic little snowflake show the class where the bad man hurt you.... yawn!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
saxdog 249 #206 Posted September 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Bristol-Cruiser said: Also called him a clown, both well-deserved. Somehow "clown" seemed too genteel. Surely we can come up with a better word to describe Lilttle Donnie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark K 1,326 #207 Posted September 30, 2020 36 minutes ago, Sol Rosenberg said: That was not a debate, it was a debauch. I kept wondering what South Park could do with this material. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swimsailor 1,242 #208 Posted September 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, saxdog said: Somehow "clown" seemed too genteel. Surely we can come up with a better word to describe Lilttle Donnie. I would say "Donald, shut the fuck up. You are a piece of shit. You can't even shutup for 2 minutes. How small must your dick be to not let some.old man talk for 2 minutes. You are a small feeble man." 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AJ Oliver 1,166 #209 Posted September 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, Sea warrior said: You poor pathetic little Reveling in your own evil is not a good look. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
B.J. Porter 2,822 #210 Posted September 30, 2020 22 minutes ago, Sean said: 47 minutes ago, Mike G said: He told the white supremests to stand down and stand by. Pretty blatant. Close. He didn’t say “stand down”, he said “stand back”. This is how the Proud Boys reacted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benwynn 2,617 #211 Posted September 30, 2020 58 minutes ago, Burning Man said: I think THE MOST frightening part of the entire night was telling his supports to "Go into the polls and watch". That was a call to arms IMHO. I think there will be violence, hopefully it remains isolated. But I'm not hopeful. It's a given. First dipshit with a MAGA hat, "I'd rather be Russian than Democrat" and an attitude is going to get called on his shit. It'll go south from there. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kent_island_sailor 3,389 #212 Posted September 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Bill E Goat said: This so sad to watch from the other side of the world Try living a 45 minute drive from the White House Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 5,747 #213 Posted September 30, 2020 1 minute ago, kent_island_sailor said: Try living a 45 minute drive from the White House How long is it for a cruise missile? Asking for a friend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
view at the front 146 #214 Posted September 30, 2020 There should be shock collars attached to each of the debaters, and the moderator should also have a "mute" button installed on their microphones. The moderator failed. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kent_island_sailor 3,389 #215 Posted September 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, Ishmael said: How long is it for a cruise missile? Asking for a friend. Starting at my house? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kent_island_sailor 3,389 #216 Posted September 30, 2020 1 minute ago, view at the front said: There should be shock collars attached to each of the debaters, and the moderator should also have a "mute" button installed on their microphones. The moderator failed. Dog training collars might be just the ticket, but Trump gets one on his neck and one sized for a toy poodle on his dick. Actually never mind, he probably would like it 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike G 1,223 #217 Posted September 30, 2020 12 minutes ago, B.J. Porter said: This is how the Proud Boys reacted. He pivoted in that question strangely, to get to his now-famous quote. Like it was rehearsed. He wanted to get that out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Navig8tor 1,120 #218 Posted September 30, 2020 28 minutes ago, kent_island_sailor said: Starting at my house? You won’t need to do a thing. Except look the other way when that MOFO lights up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shaggybaxter 1,557 #219 Posted September 30, 2020 Wtf is a proud boy? Sounds like a bunch of suburban adolescents on bicycles with sissy bars trying to look cool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benwynn 2,617 #220 Posted September 30, 2020 4 hours ago, Mid said: somebody needs purple Purple font would have ruined the joke for those of us who got it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 5,747 #221 Posted September 30, 2020 38 minutes ago, kent_island_sailor said: Starting at my house? The end of your street will do. Edit: That would be the end of your street, also. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hobot 1,855 #222 Posted September 30, 2020 44 minutes ago, view at the front said: There should be shock collars attached to each of the debaters, and the moderator should also have a "mute" button installed on their microphones. Or a variation of... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Q 417 #223 Posted September 30, 2020 As a disinterested observer from a good distance away, who unfortunately caught a bit of the "Debate" as it occupied many TV channels . I came to the conclusion one should be locked up in a home for the mentally deranged, the other should be sent home and told to go fishing... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gouvernail 2,677 #224 Posted September 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, The Q said: As a disinterested observer from a good distance away, who unfortunately caught a bit of the "Debate" as it occupied many TV channels . I came to the conclusion one should be locked up in a home for the mentally deranged, the other should be sent home and told to go fishing... Exactly. Are you busy the next four years?? We could use a POTUS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Q 417 #225 Posted September 30, 2020 12 minutes ago, Gouvernail said: Exactly. Are you busy the next four years?? We could use a POTUS Sorry could use the money, but disqualified , not born in the USA... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
astro 720 #226 Posted September 30, 2020 America Calls Upon The Only Man Capable Of Moderating The Next Debate Between Biden And Trump The first of the 2020 presidential debates between President Trump and his opponent Joe Biden took place today, leaving the entire planet now contemplating their faith in the future of human civilisation. The death rattle of democracy featured a chaotic series of extremely personal exchanges and name-calling between the two nominees, as the collapse of late stage capitalism reared its ugly head for all to see. Throughout the 90 minute debate, Trump repeatedly spoke over his Democratic rival, leaving Biden with no choice but to tell The President to ‘shut up, man’ several times. The exhausted moderator, Chris Wallace of Fox News struggled to maintain control as he led the candidates to topics like the Supreme Court, the economy, the coronavirus pandemic and more. To no avail, Wallace also repeatedly reprimanded the President for speaking over his opponent and disregarding the rules both sides had agreed to. While no one can deny that the moderator had done his very best to rein in the petulance and interruptions throughout the debate, it soon became evident that he was well and truly out of his depth in moderating the two men. This has left the American people will no option but to bring in the big guns moving forward. The only man capable of successfully maintaining control of such a low brow debate. Jerry Springer. Debuting on American TV screens in 1991, The Jerry Springer Show was unsuccessful in ratings and audience engagement in its first seasons due to its focus on core political issues – much like the American elections of yesteryear. And much like the 2016 and 2020 Presidential campaigns, the talkshow underwent an overhaul of the structure which by the mid-1990’s led to a show filled with controversial topics – such as sexual taboo and adultery, profanity, domestic disputes and culture war debates. Also similar to American politics, many of their nation’s community leaders have condemned The Jerry Springer Show as “trash TV”. However despite such criticisms, the show remained popular until the end of it’s 26-year-run in in 2018. After nearly two years in retirement, Jerry Springer will return to adjudicating low brow arguments in the next two presidential debates on October 15 and 22 in Miami, Florida, and Nashville, Tennessee, respectively. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Burning Man 716 #227 Posted September 30, 2020 3 hours ago, DustyDreamer said: Pretty convinced it was the usual diarrheic nonsense but the net effect is what matters. They took it that way and their local, state, and federal LE enablers are happy to enable. Their local, state and federal LE are enablers? Cite that please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Burning Man 716 #228 Posted September 30, 2020 2 hours ago, view at the front said: The moderator failed. Disagree. I thought CW did an admirable job trying to keep the clown show on track. The only way he could have done any better would be to have gotten up, pulled off his mic, and said "I'm done with this shit show", and walked off stage. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Burning Man 716 #229 Posted September 30, 2020 11 minutes ago, astro said: America Calls Upon The Only Man Capable Of Moderating The Next Debate Between Biden And Trump The first of the 2020 presidential debates between President Trump and his opponent Joe Biden took place today, leaving the entire planet now contemplating their faith in the future of human civilisation. The death rattle of democracy featured a chaotic series of extremely personal exchanges and name-calling between the two nominees, as the collapse of late stage capitalism reared its ugly head for all to see. Throughout the 90 minute debate, Trump repeatedly spoke over his Democratic rival, leaving Biden with no choice but to tell The President to ‘shut up, man’ several times. The exhausted moderator, Chris Wallace of Fox News struggled to maintain control as he led the candidates to topics like the Supreme Court, the economy, the coronavirus pandemic and more. To no avail, Wallace also repeatedly reprimanded the President for speaking over his opponent and disregarding the rules both sides had agreed to. While no one can deny that the moderator had done his very best to rein in the petulance and interruptions throughout the debate, it soon became evident that he was well and truly out of his depth in moderating the two men. This has left the American people will no option but to bring in the big guns moving forward. The only man capable of successfully maintaining control of such a low brow debate. Jerry Springer. Debuting on American TV screens in 1991, The Jerry Springer Show was unsuccessful in ratings and audience engagement in its first seasons due to its focus on core political issues – much like the American elections of yesteryear. And much like the 2016 and 2020 Presidential campaigns, the talkshow underwent an overhaul of the structure which by the mid-1990’s led to a show filled with controversial topics – such as sexual taboo and adultery, profanity, domestic disputes and culture war debates. Also similar to American politics, many of their nation’s community leaders have condemned The Jerry Springer Show as “trash TV”. However despite such criticisms, the show remained popular until the end of it’s 26-year-run in in 2018. After nearly two years in retirement, Jerry Springer will return to adjudicating low brow arguments in the next two presidential debates on October 15 and 22 in Miami, Florida, and Nashville, Tennessee, respectively. I think Judge Judy would be more appropriate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fah Kiew Tu 1,864 #230 Posted September 30, 2020 48 minutes ago, Burning Man said: I think Judge Judy would be more appropriate. I think soundproofed perspex boxes with the mike controls in the hands of the moderators would be appropriate. Might not stop Trump ranting, but at least nobody would hear him. No way he'd agree to that though. He couldn't do what he does best - lie. What else can you call it when he agrees to a set of rules then ignores them. These 'debates' are a waste of time really. Those who support Trump aren't going to stop because he's a loud-mouthed rude bully, they think those are the positive features. And those who are supporting Biden are just confirmed in their disgust of Trump. The fence-sitters, well, what can one say about them at this stage of the shit-show. FKT 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Burning Man 716 #231 Posted September 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, Fah Kiew Tu said: These 'debates' are a waste of time really. Those who support Trump aren't going to stop because he's a loud-mouthed rude bully, they think those are the positive features. And those who are supporting Biden are just confirmed in their disgust of Trump. The fence-sitters, well, what can one say about them at this stage of the shit-show. I said this exact thing several hours ago. Not sure why we are even going through this exercise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mismoyled Jiblet. 2,409 #232 Posted September 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Burning Man said: Their local, state and federal LE are enablers? Cite that please. You need a Montreal test buddy? Because you can’t remember shit these days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Happy 1,366 #233 Posted September 30, 2020 Joe Biden showed he has the intelligence and self-control that a President needs. He didn't state the obvious and call Trump a cunt. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PHIRKIN 70 #234 Posted September 30, 2020 Teach both of them what those who are paying attention desire.... Wire them both up RE idea of Stanley Milgram experiment, and give them both an electrical shock after every question; relative amplitude based upon real time social response to their response to question. Both are in large part clueless. Select lessor of two evils again....Bah! If 'twere who's the lessor twat, would be settled, but for many, the $$ complicate things. Deal with the devil you (likely incorrectly think you) know, or presume that any path other than current could only be less crappy. Helluva choice... _________ Unqualified medical advice: Do not attempt to play shot drinking games based upon debate buzzwords for the entirety of a debate if you present any symptoms of liver disease. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shortforbob 2,005 #235 Posted September 30, 2020 5 hours ago, view at the front said: There should be shock collars attached to each of the debaters, and the moderator should also have a "mute" button installed on their microphones. The moderator failed. How could the moderator not have failed? pulled the plug and walked away? Next one. Mute button. Incredible as it may seem, it's the only way you'll get both him and Biden to have 2 clear minutes. It would be interesting to see the wind taken out of someone's sails when his only weapon, sledging, sneering, bullying, talking over and interrupting are taken away. Biden won that debate hands down. Neither had much content,( well Biden had some if you listened carefully over under the noise, nothing earth shattering, but reasoned) but no one can say that Biden is mentality incompetent now. So that's the only goal scored in this match. I watched all of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mathystuff 287 #236 Posted September 30, 2020 Mute button would only play into Trumps hand. "Fake news media censoring me! Unfair!" Trump is still the abused three year old he was decades ago emotionally. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kent_island_sailor 3,389 #237 Posted September 30, 2020 3 hours ago, The Q said: Sorry could use the money, but disqualified , not born in the USA... Not a requirement actually as long as you were born a citizen - see John McCain born in Panama. You sure you're not free? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
B.J. Porter 2,822 #238 Posted September 30, 2020 5 hours ago, shaggybaxter said: Wtf is a proud boy? Sounds like a bunch of suburban adolescents on bicycles with sissy bars trying to look cool. https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/proud-boys https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proud_Boys If you dare look for it, this is the same Gavin McInnes who famously fucked himself up with ass with a dildo on his youtube channel to prove...something...to protest Islam? About not being gay? I didn't fully understand it, but these are not all smart people. He has since quit the organization to take up making decorative potholders or something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sol Rosenberg 6,020 #239 Posted September 30, 2020 6 hours ago, saxdog said: Somehow "clown" seemed too genteel. Surely we can come up with a better word to describe Lilttle Donnie. “Ferret Wearing Shitgibbon” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dacapo 1,035 #240 Posted September 30, 2020 6 hours ago, view at the front said: There should be shock collars attached to each of the debaters, and the moderator should also have a "mute" button installed on their microphones. The moderator failed. let a teacher be a moderator. We know how to use the MUTE key Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
B.J. Porter 2,822 #241 Posted September 30, 2020 3 hours ago, Fah Kiew Tu said: I think soundproofed perspex boxes with the mike controls in the hands of the moderators would be appropriate. Might not stop Trump ranting, but at least nobody would hear him. No way he'd agree to that though. He couldn't do what he does best - lie. What else can you call it when he agrees to a set of rules then ignores them. These 'debates' are a waste of time really. Those who support Trump aren't going to stop because he's a loud-mouthed rude bully, they think those are the positive features. And those who are supporting Biden are just confirmed in their disgust of Trump. The fence-sitters, well, what can one say about them at this stage of the shit-show. FKT Lot of truth to that. I mean, we sent our ballots off earlier this week, so it's not like we're going to be changing our minds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sol Rosenberg 6,020 #242 Posted September 30, 2020 I bet The Faithful are beaming with pride this morning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
B.J. Porter 2,822 #243 Posted September 30, 2020 1 hour ago, mathystuff said: Mute button would only play into Trumps hand. "Fake news media censoring me! Unfair!" Trump is still the abused three year old he was decades ago emotionally. How about a Push-to-TALK button, given to each candidate with a timer on it. Each one gets say...45 minutes each in a 90 minute debate. If you want your mic on, you have to push the button, and a timer deducts seconds for every minute it's pushed down. When you run out of seconds, you are done speaking for the debate, PERIOD. But if two buttons are on at once the only one who gets time charged is the one who isn't supposed to be talking. So if Trump yammers over Biden for the first hour and uses up his 45 minutes...well I guess Joe gets to finish the last half hour by himself while Trump stews and fumes. 45 minutes will give enough slop, with the moderator talking, so they can still shout over each other for a couple of minutes and still finish the debate. If Trump can't act like an adult, you need these kind of controls to try to make the exchange even remotely meaningful. It's a nice fantasy, but it will never happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
B.J. Porter 2,822 #244 Posted September 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, Sol Rosenberg said: I bet The Faithful are beaming with pride this morning. On fascist right wing Twitter they have been singing his praises and glorifying dear leader's masterful handling of the doddering old Democrat. It's even more gushy and exciting than the post-debate note Trump's campaign sent out claiming victory hours before the debate happened! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fakenews 1,113 #245 Posted September 30, 2020 11 minutes ago, Sol Rosenberg said: I bet The Faithful are beaming with pride this morning. Checked in with Fox and Friends. They called the debate for Trump. Admired his “forceful style”. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 4,739 #246 Posted September 30, 2020 7 hours ago, Burning Man said: 7 hours ago, Steam Flyer said: Well, are you going to do anything about it? I already am What are you doing? Hopefully bringing a lot of people to the polls to vote, including a bunch of young minority military and recent ex-military members. I've also had a talk with our Sheriff, whom I believe is a good man, about plans to prevent voter intimidation. 7 hours ago, Raz'r said: He rented a bunch of busses in advance to take people to the polls. Why in advance? Cause Republicans rent them and park them for the day. I'm not paying for them, just chipping in. I had the idea and was patient and persuasive enough to see it decided, and it's a good thing. But if they had been rented for the day, there would almost certainly be no buses. - DSK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cal20sailor 2,221 #247 Posted September 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, Fakenews said: Checked in with Fox and Friends. They called the debate for Trump. Admired his “forceful style”. Trump handed the Senate to the Dems last night. His chances are nil. OH and FL are probably goners, AZ as well. This is going to be a romp. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dog 667 #248 Posted September 30, 2020 For what it's worth the polling I've seen this morning has Biden winning the debate and the betting odds shifted towards Biden. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mismoyled Jiblet. 2,409 #249 Posted September 30, 2020 20 minutes ago, Sol Rosenberg said: I bet The Faithful are beaming with pride this morning. like a lightbulb up the ass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sol Rosenberg 6,020 #250 Posted September 30, 2020 He only did the crazy racist grandpa routine last night because he didn’t want to panic people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Olsonist 1,837 #251 Posted September 30, 2020 Dude, he was just being sarcastic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bus Driver 3,870 #252 Posted September 30, 2020 9 minutes ago, Dog said: For what it's worth the polling I've seen this morning has Biden winning the debate and the betting odds shifted towards Biden. I'd like your take on the debate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bus Driver 3,870 #253 Posted September 30, 2020 The next Debate should be on Zoom. The Moderator can mute participants. And, if they can't abide by the rules, they get a time-out in the Waiting Room. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fakenews 1,113 #254 Posted September 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, Olsonist said: Dude, he was just being sarcastic. He went with that when Biden brought up injecting bleach.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mismoyled Jiblet. 2,409 #255 Posted September 30, 2020 10 minutes ago, Sol Rosenberg said: He only did the crazy racist grandpa routine last night because he didn’t want to panic people. The false accusations of racism by Democrats drove him to it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BravoBravo 666 #256 Posted September 30, 2020 Embarrassing to every American and Democrat too.. Trump gravely wounded his chances of winning the undecided votes, each candidate has his base in his hip pocket, it’s a good thing folks in 2020 have short memories and that is not a Biden reference Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dog 667 #257 Posted September 30, 2020 14 minutes ago, Bus Driver said: I'd like your take on the debate. Disappointing...Trump was rude and Biden was nasty. These guys are pathetic, I said somewhere else thy are just proxies for differing philosophies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shortforbob 2,005 #258 Posted September 30, 2020 What is it with Trump's make up. I've noticed that recently he seems to be using some product with gold particles. blob:https://www.sbs.com.au/6cc5bbb8-95b1-4e8b-8067-c61ee5f8da05 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dog 667 #259 Posted September 30, 2020 Just now, Shortforbob said: What is it with Trump's make up. I've noticed that recently he seems to be using some product with gold particles. blob:https://www.sbs.com.au/6cc5bbb8-95b1-4e8b-8067-c61ee5f8da05 I thought Trump won the makeup contest. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Willin' 793 #260 Posted September 30, 2020 It's true, compared to Trump's luminosity Biden looked pale, which Nixon learned wasn't a good thing. OTOH, Biden can claim that's the way you look when you wear a mask all day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bus Driver 3,870 #261 Posted September 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Dog said: Disappointing...Trump was rude and Biden was nasty. These guys are pathetic, I said somewhere else thy are just proxies for differing philosophies. I agree with the assessment of disappointing. But, I was hoping for a more detailed analysis. Your comment seems to suggest it was balanced in terms of how each behaved. For the record, I felt Biden's mention of the President being a "clown" was unacceptable - while understandable. Of course, I have a friend who admires President Trump's incessant and juvenile name-calling and he thought the use of the word "clown" was the worst thing ever. President Trump acted as I expected him to - like a cornered bully. He knows he can't debate on policy, so he "debates" on personality. He was a caricature of himself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fakenews 1,113 #262 Posted September 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, Shortforbob said: What is it with Trump's make up. I've noticed that recently he seems to be using some product with gold particles. blob:https://www.sbs.com.au/6cc5bbb8-95b1-4e8b-8067-c61ee5f8da05 Glitter? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mismoyled Jiblet. 2,409 #263 Posted September 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, Dog said: Disappointing...Trump was rude and Biden was nasty. These guys are pathetic, I said somewhere else thy are just proxies for differing philosophies. Puhfucking leaze. There is no coherent philosophy behind Trump- nothing animating you morons but grievance and hate - and all that “Biden is a socialist” bullshit is why I mock you, you demented bat. theres a competent centrist quo (Biden) and the Fox entertainment complex fuckup (Trump) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shortforbob 2,005 #264 Posted September 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, Fakenews said: Glitter? not glitter, just a gold metallic sheen. He seems to be sweating more lately so perhaps a mix of bronzer and antiperspirant? Just another weird aspect of the orange one..turning golden. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LenP 1,050 #265 Posted September 30, 2020 Last night Trump, through his actions, essentially conceded the election and is now moving clearly towards and attempt at a coup. He knows he can not win a fair election and now has stopped trying. Instead he is counting on being able to leverage a violent minority into a dictatorship. Make no mistake, that is where this is headed. There is a greater chance that we have lost our country in 2 months than Trump winning an actual election, it is now all about whether there are enough decent judges and politicians to stop what is clearly an attempt at a coup. He is not calling on the Proud Boys for their votes, he is calling on them to stop everyone else from voting. We are facing the very real prospect of civil war and the end of the USA. Everyone who is sane and cares about the country needs to stop treating what is happening as if it is part of a heated election, and call it out for what it is, a blatant attempt to overthrow the government we have had since the end of the Revolutionary War. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dog 667 #266 Posted September 30, 2020 20 minutes ago, Bus Driver said: I agree with the assessment of disappointing. But, I was hoping for a more detailed analysis. Your comment seems to suggest it was balanced in terms of how each behaved. For the record, I felt Biden's mention of the President being a "clown" was unacceptable - while understandable. Of course, I have a friend who admires President Trump's incessant and juvenile name-calling and he thought the use of the word "clown" was the worst thing ever. President Trump acted as I expected him to - like a cornered bully. He knows he can't debate on policy, so he "debates" on personality. He was a caricature of himself. Biden also called Trump a racist, wrt who could go low I think they fought to a draw. The Lincoln-Douglas debate it was not. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LenP 1,050 #267 Posted September 30, 2020 Just now, Dog said: Biden also called Trump a racist, wrt who could go low I think they fought to a draw. The Lincoln-Douglas debate it was not. Trump declared himself a racist when he showed his support for the Proud Boys. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shortforbob 2,005 #268 Posted September 30, 2020 15 minutes ago, Bus Driver said: I agree with the assessment of disappointing. But, I was hoping for a more detailed analysis. Your comment seems to suggest it was balanced in terms of how each behaved. For the record, I felt Biden's mention of the President being a "clown" was unacceptable - while understandable. Of course, I have a friend who admires President Trump's incessant and juvenile name-calling and he thought the use of the word "clown" was the worst thing ever. President Trump acted as I expected him to - like a cornered bully. He knows he can't debate on policy, so he "debates" on personality. He was a caricature of himself. I posted the transcript. There's no doubt about Trump being the main offender. It's there in black and white who did most of the interupting and shit flinging. Mind you, it's telling that Biden just seemed unable to resist sinking to trumps level on occasion. He's have looked a lot stronger if he'd resisted the urges to compete with Trump on slurs and looked Presidential instead. I can't imagine for one minute Obama behaving like this. He'd have adopted the expression of one looking with faint distain at the mouthings of an oik. Wallace was pathetic. I'm really disappointed in him and those weak jocular admonishments. If he'd sounded like a judge and sternly told Trump to behave we might have had some real entertainment from the made up clown. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dog 667 #269 Posted September 30, 2020 Just now, LenP said: Trump declared himself a racist when he showed his support for the Proud Boys. OFGS...Do you believe the fine people on both sides lie too? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shortforbob 2,005 #270 Posted September 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, LenP said: Last night Trump, through his actions, essentially conceded the election and is now moving clearly towards and attempt at a coup. He knows he can not win a fair election and now has stopped trying. Instead he is counting on being able to leverage a violent minority into a dictatorship. Make no mistake, that is where this is headed. There is a greater chance that we have lost our country in 2 months than Trump winning an actual election, it is now all about whether there are enough decent judges and politicians to stop what is clearly an attempt at a coup. He is not calling on the Proud Boys for their votes, he is calling on them to stop everyone else from voting. We are facing the very real prospect of civil war and the end of the USA. Everyone who is sane and cares about the country needs to stop treating what is happening as if it is part of a heated election, and call it out for what it is, a blatant attempt to overthrow the government we have had since the end of the Revolutionary War. Probably too frightening for people to seriously process. That's how most coups succeed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raz'r 3,239 #271 Posted September 30, 2020 5 hours ago, Burning Man said: Their local, state and federal LE are enablers? Cite that please. If you’ve paid attention even the FBI is concerned about white supremacists infiltrating local PDs. I posted the FBI report yesterday. https://www.google.com/amp/s/static.theintercept.com/amp/police-white-supremacist-infiltration-fbi.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raz'r 3,239 #272 Posted September 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, LenP said: Trump declared himself a racist when he showed his support for the Proud Boys. Yes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LenP 1,050 #273 Posted September 30, 2020 Just now, Dog said: OFGS...Do you believe the fine people on both sides lie too? Dude, I watched the debate. Everyone, including the Proud Boys, understood that he was showing his support for them. You don't tell Nazis to "Stand by" if you are opposed to Nazis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raz'r 3,239 #274 Posted September 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, Dog said: OFGS...Do you believe the fine people on both sides lie too? Whatever Vichy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cal20sailor 2,221 #275 Posted September 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, LenP said: Last night Trump, through his actions, essentially conceded the election and is now moving clearly towards and attempt at a coup. Read an interesting article the other day where the author said that Ohio was key to avoiding this scenario. Republican Governor and Secretary of State so Trump can't claim doctored ballots. If Trump tries such a thing, some GOP Senators are going to have to put on their big boy pants during the lame duck session and impeach his ass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raz'r 3,239 #276 Posted September 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, Dog said: Biden also called Trump a racist, wrt who could go low I think they fought to a draw. The Lincoln-Douglas debate it was not. Trump IS a racist. So no harm no foul. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fakenews 1,113 #277 Posted September 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Raz'r said: If you’ve paid attention even the FBI is concerned about white supremacists infiltrating local PDs. I posted the FBI report yesterday. https://www.google.com/amp/s/static.theintercept.com/amp/police-white-supremacist-infiltration-fbi.html There is a huge problem with white supremacists in the Military as well. Jeffie is either willfully turning a blind eye or is sympathetic to that message. Troubling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bristol-Cruiser 989 #278 Posted September 30, 2020 5 hours ago, Gouvernail said: Exactly. Are you busy the next four years?? We could use a POTUS I think that a randomly chosen PA denizen would make a better POTUS than either of these guys. You take a chance that you might get BB or Dog but that would still be better than Trump. There are many intelligent, thoughtful people here and your chance of picking one of those would be better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LenP 1,050 #279 Posted September 30, 2020 What is needed now is not just for everyone to vote, although that is critical, but also for folks to wake up to the very real threat of a coup and to call on every elected representative they have to disavow his attempts to take over the USA through force by his racist militia followers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fakenews 1,113 #280 Posted September 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, Dog said: OFGS...Do you believe the fine people on both sides lie too? “Jews will not replace me” Likely Dog quote. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shortforbob 2,005 #281 Posted September 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, Dog said: OFGS...Do you believe the fine people on both sides lie too? What do you think "Stand back and stand by" means dog? It's rather an unusual expression. Considering any normal person would have said something along the lines of "step aside" or just "stand back" without the "stand by" Don't you think? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 4,739 #282 Posted September 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, Raz'r said: 9 minutes ago, LenP said: Trump declared himself a racist when he showed his support for the Proud Boys. Yes Well, long before that, really. Nobody who is paying attention has had any doubt, for years. But Trump made it very obvious last night, the white supremacists are his boys and he's proud of them. - DSK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shortforbob 2,005 #283 Posted September 30, 2020 I think made it pretty dam clear that he'll use the SCOTUS if he loses the count. With the Proud boys ilk to back up dissent. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mathystuff 287 #284 Posted September 30, 2020 It doesn't really matter if Trumps racist or just flirting with them for power. Same end result. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shortforbob 2,005 #285 Posted September 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, Steam Flyer said: Well, long before that, really. Nobody who is paying attention has had any doubt, for years. But Trump made it very obvious last night, the white supremacists are his boys and he's proud of them. - DSK Of course he's not proud of them, they're losers..but he'll use them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Q 417 #286 Posted September 30, 2020 2 hours ago, kent_island_sailor said: Not a requirement actually as long as you were born a citizen - see John McCain born in Panama. You sure you're not free? I am Definitely retiring in 497 working days time... Then I shall go and sail.. a lot.. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fakenews 1,113 #287 Posted September 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, Shortforbob said: I think made it pretty dam clear that he'll use the SCOTUS if he loses the count. With the Proud boys ilk to back up dissent. My money is on the “Not Fucking Around Anymore” crowd if it’s a face off with the proud boys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xlot 686 #288 Posted September 30, 2020 Too many pages accumulated due to time zone difference, managed to read just this one. Curious to know if antbody brought out G B Shaw’s famous quote about never wrestling with pigs To me, the one positive is Biden proved he’s tough enough to stand up to the bully - that was the unspoken fear Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Son of a Sailor 62 #289 Posted September 30, 2020 16 hours ago, Jules said: I liked the part where Biden walked over to Trump's podium with $750 in his hand and said, "Let me pick up your taxes for next year, Donald." Wait . . . did that actually happen?! I could not bring myself to watch the shit show. Now i have to go search Youtube. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites