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Pence comes out swinging the socialist hammer and Harris plays the race card in her second sentence. 

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Anyone playing a drinking game in which "Under President Trump's Bold Leadership" is a prompt to take a shot is probably going to die of alcohol poisoning.

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21 minutes ago, nacradriver said:

Pence comes out swinging the socialist hammer and Harris plays the race card in her second sentence. 

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Is the population so ignorant that calling the Democratic party "socialists" is actually taken seriously?  If so, please revise your school curriculum to include education on what socialism actually is.  

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6 minutes ago, Rain Man said:
30 minutes ago, nacradriver said:

 

Is the population so ignorant that calling the Democratic party "socialists" is actually taken seriously?

No, only about 45% or so.

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I felt she was flat and ineffective. 

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Just now, Mike G said:

I felt she was flat and ineffective. 

I have heard her called many things, but never "flat".

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27 minutes ago, Rain Man said:

Is the population so ignorant that calling the Democratic party "socialists" is actually taken seriously?  If so, please revise your school curriculum to include education on what socialism actually is.  

I had an interesting chat with a colleague who looks a lot like the old bearded fella in duck dynasty. His name is Doug,  but might as well be called dog.

Is having a police force socialist? No

Are public schools socialist? No

Are city taxes socialist?  No

Would opening up med school for more doctors be socialist?  No

Would industry wide health insurance be socialist?  No

Is college/ university medical research socialist?  No

Would government run Healthcare (along the lines of Australia), with the option of private health insurance and networks be socialist?  YES.

Why? BECAUSE I SAID SO.

can you explain why taxes for roads and libraries are OK,  but not a 2% tax for health? NO, this is Murica, fuck off, just go back to Australia.

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4 minutes ago, dfw_sailor said:

I had an interesting chat with a colleague who looks a lot like the old bearded fella in duck dynasty. His name is Doug,  but might as well be called dog.

Is having a police force socialist? No

Are public schools socialist? No

Are city taxes socialist?  No

Would opening up med school for more doctors be socialist?  No

Would industry wide health insurance be socialist?  No

Is college/ university medical research socialist?  No

Would government run Healthcare (along the lines of Australia), with the option of private health insurance and networks be socialist?  YES.

Why? BECAUSE I SAID SO.

can you explain why taxes for roads and libraries are OK,  but not a 2% tax for health? NO, this is Murica, fuck off, just go back to Australia.

Fucking rednecks

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5 minutes ago, dfw_sailor said:

I had an interesting chat with a colleague who looks a lot like the old bearded fella in duck dynasty. His name is Doug,  but might as well be called dog.

Is having a police force socialist? No

Are public schools socialist? No

Are city taxes socialist?  No

Would opening up med school for more doctors be socialist?  No

Would industry wide health insurance be socialist?  No

Is college/ university medical research socialist?  No

Would government run Healthcare (along the lines of Australia), with the option of private health insurance and networks be socialist?  YES.

Why? BECAUSE I SAID SO.

can you explain why taxes for roads and libraries are OK,  but not a 2% tax for health? NO, this is Murica, fuck off, just go back to Australia.

Most of the new medical schools that are opening these days are private funded schools... not public.  And this is taking into account both allopathic (MD) and osteopathic (DO) schools.   Just saying...

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I wonder how Pence feels knowing that Pete Buttigieg was playing him in KH's practice debates.

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Just now, Nice! said:

I wonder how Pence feels knowing that Pete Buttigieg was playing him KH's practice debates.

That's hysterical.  I love it.

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27 minutes ago, nacradriver said:

Most of the new medical schools that are opening these days are private funded schools... not public.  And this is taking into account both allopathic (MD) and osteopathic (DO) schools.   Just saying...

Sure. Docs-to-be can borrow lots of money. They are graduating with increasing amounts of debt, I think the average med school debt is ticking towards 1/2 mill$. WINNING!

- DSK

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11 minutes ago, nacradriver said:

Most of the new medical schools that are opening these days are private funded schools... not public.  And this is taking into account both allopathic (MD) and osteopathic (DO) schools.   Just saying...

Fair enough,  although it does keep on raising costs in the medical system (another finger in the pie).

While we are sorta talking about educamation.... (me and Doug again)

Should parents have a choice of schools for their kids?  Yes

Should the schools open with a prayer each day?  HELL  Yeah

Which prayer? Christian prayers! 

What about the Muslims,  or shock horror Atheists (that's me)? No way this is a Christian nation. They can go to their own schools. 

So back to freedom of choice of schools then,... should the government give charter schools (private schools) the money that would have been spent educating the Muslim child in the public school? NO FUCKING WAY

Why not,  its freedom of choice of religion and schools,  shouldn't the government put the money where the kids are?  LOOK, take the money away from the public schools and my nephews won't have a many teachers. All we want is to go back to how things were before Obama screwed up the country. Just Christian and none of this PC Bullshit. Besides,  the goverment can't give money for religious use. 

(and then we go down the rabbit hole about city sponsored Christian nativity scenes).

And then he tells me to fuck off back to Australia again. 

We don't talk much anymore. 

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26 minutes ago, dfw_sailor said:

Fair enough,  although it does keep on raising costs in the medical system (another finger in the pie).

While we are sorta talking about educamation.... (me and Doug again)

Should parents have a choice of schools for their kids?  Yes

.... ....

We don't talk much anymore. 

Sounds to me like he's no big loss. One of the "Mah Freedom means Ah get to rob you" types.

- DSK

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28 minutes ago, dfw_sailor said:

Fair enough,  although it does keep on raising costs in the medical system (another finger in the pie).

While we are sorta talking about educamation.... (me and Doug again)

Should parents have a choice of schools for their kids?  Yes

Should the schools open with a prayer each day?  HELL  Yeah

Which prayer? Christian prayers! 

What about the Muslims,  or shock horror Atheists (that's me)? No way this is a Christian nation. They can go to their own schools. 

So back to freedom of choice of schools then,... should the government give charter schools (private schools) the money that would have been spent educating the Muslim child in the public school? NO FUCKING WAY

Why not,  its freedom of choice of religion and schools,  shouldn't the government put the money where the kids are?  LOOK, take the money away from the public schools and my nephews won't have a many teachers. All we want is to go back to how things were before Obama screwed up the country. Just Christian and none of this PC Bullshit. Besides,  the goverment can't give money for religious use. 

(and then we go down the rabbit hole about city sponsored Christian nativity scenes).

And then he tells me to fuck off back to Australia again. 

We don't talk much anymore. 

I learned to keep my mouth shut when I lived in Tucson.

And eventually I fucked off back to Australia and was very happy to do so.

Nice place, Tucson, lot of nice people I worked with, good company too. But the disjuncture WRT perceptions of reality was a bit much.

FKT

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34 minutes ago, dfw_sailor said:

Fair enough,  although it does keep on raising costs in the medical system (another finger in the pie).

It’s not particularly fair, because it’s not an accurate statement of funding - his word. There’s a mixture of public/private funding and public loans most schools, among others. We are neither private, nor public (“socialism”) we are the worst of both in many ways.

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6 minutes ago, Fah Kiew Tu said:

I learned to keep my mouth shut when I lived in Tucson.

And eventually I fucked off back to Australia and was very happy to do so.

Nice place, Tucson, lot of nice people I worked with, good company too. But the disjuncture WRT perceptions of reality was a bit much.

FKT

I'm stuck here.  Oz is too small for my business.  And it is far easier to do business here,  for the most part.   My customers are tx, ca, nm, wa, co, az. And we manufacture a pragmatic green product in Colin County Texas,  Trump central. An interesting / irritating mix for sure. 

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Typo, irrigating should have been irritating....... although given the product is advanced graywater irrigation systems, swype correction to irrigate is kinda funny.

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1 minute ago, Mismoyled Jiblet. said:

It’s not particularly fair, because it’s not an accurate statement of funding - his word. There’s a mixture of public/private funding and public loans most schools.

Good point

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1 minute ago, dfw_sailor said:

I'm stuck here.  Oz is too small for my business.  And it is far easier to do business here,  for the most part.   My customers are tx, ca, nm, wa, co, az. And we manufacture a pragmatic green product in Colin County Texas,  Trump central. An interesting / irrigating mix for sure. 

If I were to live in the SW again I'd want to be in Bisbee. When I was sick of Tucson I'd take myself off there for the weekend.

But I don't plan on ever returning.

My current wish is to keep all the US citizens from migrating to Australia because both what passes for Left and Right in the USA are toxic to our culture IMO. In different ways, sure, and possibly to different extents, but still toxic.

FKT

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8 minutes ago, Fah Kiew Tu said:

If I were to live in the SW again I'd want to be in Bisbee. When I was sick of Tucson I'd take myself off there for the weekend.

But I don't plan on ever returning.

My current wish is to keep all the US citizens from migrating to Australia because both what passes for Left and Right in the USA are toxic to our culture IMO. In different ways, sure, and possibly to different extents, but still toxic.

FKT

I heard walls are awesome.

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4 minutes ago, Fah Kiew Tu said:

If I were to live in the SW again I'd want to be in Bisbee. When I was sick of Tucson I'd take myself off there for the weekend.

But I don't plan on ever returning.

My current wish is to keep all the US citizens from migrating to Australia because both what passes for Left and Right in the USA are toxic to our culture IMO. In different ways, sure, and possibly to different extents, but still toxic.

FKT

I don't think i could put up with California all the time,  and definitely not Ohio.. but texas and Arizona are shifting blue quite quickly now.  It's just been the last 3 years that have been close to unbearable.  I'm expecting a fairly rapid return to a form of decency,  and a gradual demise of the far right. 

Tumultuous upheaval in the meantime. 

We will wait until we retire before we work out where to go. 

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1 hour ago, dfw_sailor said:

I had an interesting chat with a colleague who looks a lot like the old bearded fella in duck dynasty. His name is Doug,  but might as well be called dog.

Is having a police force socialist? No

Are public schools socialist? No

Are city taxes socialist?  No

Would opening up med school for more doctors be socialist?  No

Would industry wide health insurance be socialist?  No

Is college/ university medical research socialist?  No

Would government run Healthcare (along the lines of Australia), with the option of private health insurance and networks be socialist?  YES.

Why? BECAUSE I SAID SO.

can you explain why taxes for roads and libraries are OK,  but not a 2% tax for health? NO, this is Murica, fuck off, just go back to Australia.

You met a conservative intellectual.   They must hate taking to you, since their favorite talking point is how government healthcare cannot work and is terrible,  

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1 minute ago, roundthebuoys said:

I heard walls are awesome.

Sharks would eat the walls.  And any boats aiming across the pacific would be located by the navy and turned around.

Any boats that sank to avoid the navy would have potential illegal immigrants taken by the navy to Norfolk Island, which will allow the government to apply any rules it likes because it is outside legal jurisdiction. 

 

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57 minutes ago, dfw_sailor said:

Fair enough,  although it does keep on raising costs in the medical system (another finger in the pie).

While we are sorta talking about educamation.... (me and Doug again)

Should parents have a choice of schools for their kids?  Yes

Should the schools open with a prayer each day?  HELL  Yeah

Which prayer? Christian prayers! 

What about the Muslims,  or shock horror Atheists (that's me)? No way this is a Christian nation. They can go to their own schools. 

So back to freedom of choice of schools then,... should the government give charter schools (private schools) the money that would have been spent educating the Muslim child in the public school? NO FUCKING WAY

Why not,  its freedom of choice of religion and schools,  shouldn't the government put the money where the kids are?  LOOK, take the money away from the public schools and my nephews won't have a many teachers. All we want is to go back to how things were before Obama screwed up the country. Just Christian and none of this PC Bullshit. Besides,  the goverment can't give money for religious use. 

(and then we go down the rabbit hole about city sponsored Christian nativity scenes).

And then he tells me to fuck off back to Australia again. 

We don't talk much anymore. 

Nyuk nyuk nyuk...

Reminds me of getting ripped a new arsehole in the UK for coming over and stealing their higher paid jobs, and being told bluntly many times to fuck off back to Australia. 

Ironic when once it was from an Indian and a South African chap (that were nationalised admittedly)

 

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1 minute ago, dfw_sailor said:

Sharks would eat the walls.  And any boats aiming across the pacific would be located by the navy and turned around.

Any boats that sank to avoid the navy would have potential illegal immigrants taken by the navy to Norfolk Island, which will allow the government to apply any rules it likes because it is outside legal jurisdiction. 

 

Well you just saved Joe Biden $1millions of dollars and hours of debate prep for the next debate.  He walks out in his aviator shades, says "Sharks eat walls." and drops the mic and walks off the stage.  Game over.

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3 minutes ago, roundthebuoys said:

Well you just saved Joe Biden $1millions of dollars and hours of debate prep for the next debate.  He walks out in his aviator shades, says "Sharks eat walls." and drops the mic and walks off the stage.  Game over.

Oh that's funny,  thanks I needed that. 

I shoulda said dropbears.

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Clarification

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If she's smart she'll figure out a way to call Trump's free to everyone Covid treatment offer socialized medicine.

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Why is the moderator asking a Governors  question to the VPs?  Fucking slut.

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Kamala show her skanky self. Unfounded claims. 

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4 minutes ago, warbird said:

Why is the moderator asking a Governors  question to the VPs?  Fucking slut.

I see war dodo started the debate drinking game way early.

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5 minutes ago, warbird said:

Why is the moderator asking a Governors  question to the VPs?  Fucking slut.

Slut?    You must really hate Trump if you throw around labels like that. 

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Pence continues to run his answers long.

 

need her to yell STFU!

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8 minutes ago, warbird said:

Why is the moderator asking a Governors  question to the VPs?  Fucking slut.

I see war dodo started the debate drinking game way early.

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You respect the American people by telling them the truth,   Huzzah.   

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9 minutes ago, warbird said:

Why is the moderator asking a Governors  question to the VPs?  Fucking slut.

wow

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How long it this moderator going to allow pence to speak on a done topic and thus completely ignor the current question?

 

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3 minutes ago, Fakenews said:

Pence interrupting like crazy.

Very Rude!

Yeah but he does it in such a polite way.

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thats two in a row he's completely failed to address

 

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12 minutes ago, Fakenews said:

I see war dodo started the debate drinking game way early.

Moderator has showed her stripes, cunt

 

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Pence did credit the tremendous sacrifices the American people have made. Never bothered with why the death rate is so high, I suppose we just didn't sacrifice enough, and of course he is lying like a big dog.

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Just now, warbird said:

Moderator has showed her stripes, cunt

 

Such a statement from you is a ringing endorsement as to their decency and electability.

Keep it up mindless mouthpiece.  

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China?   I thought the deficit was higher now.   She should ask Pence if his religion accepts lying or actually requires it.

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I can only think, each of Kamala's smiles are for when she was fucking Willy Brown to get ahead.

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“This is supposed to be a debate on truth”

I’m speaking.

The economy is a complete disaster

Skillfully  brings in ACA and preexisting condition

They're coming for you

She just eviscerated him on this back and forth.

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Just now, warbird said:

Coat tails of Biden's success? Fucking skank!

Do you have any criticism that isn’t sexual double standard?   

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1 minute ago, warbird said:

Coat tails of Biden's success? Fucking skank!

Need an outlet for all that hate filled aggression you poor thing?

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Ever notice Pence spends most of his time patting Trump on the back? Uses all that time without ever answering the question while denigrating Biden.

No wonder warturd likes him.

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So Pence is for clean California fires?

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6 minutes ago, warbird said:

Coat tails of Biden's success? Fucking skank!

Nothing sadder than a drunk 70 year old Incel..

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I wish she would actually answer the question.  Will Dems do ANYTHING to slow climate change either?    Or just promise their grandkids will in 2050?

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2 minutes ago, Lark said:

So Pence is for clean California fires?

No, only big rakes.

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Just now, Lark said:

I wish she would actually answer the question. 

You must be thinking of Pence. 

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1 minute ago, Lark said:

I wish she would actually answer the question.  Will Dems do ANYTHING to slow climate change either?    Or just promise their grandkids will in 2050?

She hasnt denied the green new deal once

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27 minutes ago, Snore said:

Pence continues to run his answers long.

 

need her to yell STFU!

He's also told approximately one lie per sentence, and spent more time telling everybody what Biden's policy would be than answering the questions.

Sen. Harris is not shining on clarity, but seems to be holding up

- DSK

 

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Just now, Jules said:

You must be thinking of Pence. 

No.   She dodged it for half her time, then repeated the sacrifices we wouldn’t make, and finally said the next generation will do great things in 2050 after Trump and  Biden are dead.   

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She keeps saying they are not raising taxes yet they plan on repealing the Trump tax cuts day one.  
 Removing those tax cuts will raise taxes period.  
 

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Just now, Fakenews said:

Nothing sadder than a drunk 70 year old Incel..

Sorry,  we have a 20 something incel in the next apartment, with 2 big dogs he never takes out,  and a doormat often covered in white feathers. 

 

I think that's a bit worse than your description,  but not by much. 

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He looks better than Dan Quayle did..... But.....

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They need to start cutting the replicant's mike when he won't shut the fuck up.

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Just now, The Joker said:

She keeps saying they are not raising taxes yet they plan on repealing the Trump tax cuts day one.  
 Removing those tax cuts will raise taxes period.  
 

Not for you,   You don’t earn that much money,   

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Just now, Mrleft8 said:

He looks better than Dan Quayle did..... But.....

Can he spell potato 

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1 minute ago, The Joker said:

She keeps saying they are not raising taxes yet they plan on repealing the Trump tax cuts day one.  
 Removing those tax cuts will raise taxes period.  
 

^ a lie ^

She said they are not raising taxes on anyone making under $400k year

- DSK

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2 minutes ago, The Joker said:

She keeps saying they are not raising taxes yet they plan on repealing the Trump tax cuts day one.  
 Removing those tax cuts will raise taxes period.  
 

Not for you

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She needs some cutting comment about Pence learning the art of conversation from his boss.  
 

edit.  But she has dodged pissing off China with that question.    Maybe she’s angling for some election assistance.

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Oh yeah Pence trotted out suspending travel from China again. He suspended travel for Chinese citizens, tens of thousands of people came to the US from China. Harris should point out it's just another Trump lie.  Of course if she did that she would never have time to answer anything.

 

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$400K.............. That's just sick.

 How about $100K?

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4 minutes ago, Steam Flyer said:

^ a lie ^

She said they are not raising taxes on anyone making under $400k year

- DSK

If you repeal a tax cut and those taxes go back to the old rate.  You will be paying more in taxes.   That is a tax increase.   Then he will increases taxes even higher on those making 400k or more.  So they get hit twice.  
 

Pretty sure most Americans can do the math.   

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Just now, The Joker said:

If you repeal a tax cut and those taxes go back to the old rate.  You will be paying more in taxes.   That is a tax raise.   Then he will increases taxes even higheron those making 400k or more.  So they get hit twice.  
 

Pretty sure most Americans can do the math.   

Still living off 30 year old trickle down economics.  You're a failure.

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Pretty sure most Americans don't make anything close to $400K a year.

 Pretty sure most Americans don't make $100K a year or even close to that.

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52 minutes ago, Willin' said:

If she's smart she'll figure out a way to call Trump's free to everyone Covid treatment offer socialized medicine.

One might fairly call it "medicare for one". 

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45 minutes ago, warbird said:

Kamala show her skanky self.

The usual discrete charm of the Reich 

You sir, are a low-life punk 

just wish I could tell you that to your face 

can you help to make it happen? 

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1 minute ago, d'ranger said:

Cut the damn mike.

Right above the neck would be fine with me.

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11 minutes ago, Mrleft8 said:

$400K.............. That's just sick.

 How about $100K?

Ah NO - I fucking ALREADY pay 6 grand more per year thanks to Trump. That will do.

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4 minutes ago, bridhb said:

Right above the neck would be fine with me.

Even just at the eyebrow line.....

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3 hours ago, Mike G said:

I felt she was flat and ineffective. 

Sen Harris is trying not to be labeled a shrill bitch, according to my wife

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12 minutes ago, The Joker said:

If you repeal a tax cut and those taxes go back to the old rate.  You will be paying more in taxes.   That is a tax increase.   Then he will increases taxes even higher on those making 400k or more.  So they get hit twice.  
 

Pretty sure most Americans can do the math.   

You love you some debt, eh? Fuck the future

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Never even touched the abortion question.  Pence ran like the spineless shit he is, straight to the Bible thumping.

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13 minutes ago, The Joker said:

If you repeal a tax cut and those taxes go back to the old rate.  You will be paying more in taxes.   That is a tax increase.   Then he will increases taxes even higher on those making 400k or more.  So they get hit twice.  
 

Pretty sure most Americans can do the math.   

I'm pretty sure most Americans understand the difference between a "tax cut" and an increased deduction, which is what people in the 80% and under tax brackets got.

My taxes actually went up slightly.

- DSK

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1 minute ago, Raz'r said:

You love you some debt, eh? Fuck the future

Joker is still banking on the lie about tax cuts.  The tax cuts that DIDN'T Happen for a large chunk of the middle class.

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1 minute ago, Amati said:

Sen Harris is trying not to be labeled a shrill bitch, according to my wife

If they were alone in a room I have a feeling Pence would be wearing his nutsack on his face she would kick him so hard.