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US elections were changed for better (and worse) by the secret 'Australian ballot'

And then the Americans used it to be Racist

The Australian ballot arrives

The secret ballot was designed to stop one problem made possible by these very public election days — voter intimidation.

It's much harder to intimidate or bribe someone if you can't see who they end up voting for.

But Dr DeBats says there was another reason some states and counties got behind the Australian ballot.

It could be used to control who got to vote.

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"It disenfranchised African Americans and disenfranchised anybody who couldn't read a ballot on their own," Dr DeBats says.

US election ballots are complicated. It's not just the president being voted for, there are other state and local offices (eg senators, attorneys general), and there are ballot measures — proposed laws being put to voters.

Reading and filling out a ballot — as opposed to dropping a pre-written party ticket in a ballot box — required a level of education that many lacked.

"It was a pseudo literacy test. The Australian ballot, worked very, very well, it disenfranchised millions," Dr DeBats says.

"Anybody who couldn't read a very complicated ballot, on their own, in secret, in a kind of a sanctified space was essentially disenfranchised. And that was the idea."

A New York Times account of Mississippi's first use of Australian ballots in 1891 says the law, "as is generally known, was passed to put the white people in control of the state for all time to come".

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What is complicated about that ballot?

Should we have a seperate piece of paper for every office and ballot initiative?

Or, are we just supposed to vote a straight party ticket and let the politicians control everything?

 

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13 minutes ago, Mid said:

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That's an interesting ballot.  Where is it from?

It looks like the infamous Palm Beach County Butterfly Ballot.

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1 hour ago, Saorsa said:

What is complicated about that ballot?

Should we have a seperate piece of paper for every office and ballot initiative?

Or, are we just supposed to vote a straight party ticket and let the politicians control everything?

 

Why is one of the most partisan PA'ers here trying to talk as though voting a straight party ticket is inherently bad?

IMHO the bigger problem is removal of responsibility from politicians. When they're not held accountable, why would they give a fuck about the people? When they can be removed by a vote, even a "straight party ticket" vote, then they will.

- DSK

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You might be interested in knowing that the main architect of Mississippi's Jim Crow laws and KKK terror 

has a historic sailboat named in his honor - the Governor Stone.  

It is a designated National Historic Landmark -  

I have politely suggested to the board of the Governor Stone that they change the name of the vessel. 

They were not interested, pretty clearly liking what the name means and what it represents. 

I call that racist. 

Jim Crow is alive and well in many parts of the US. 

(Note how cleverly the Stone's supporters downplay the racial component of its history  https://www.governorstone.org/our-history  ) 

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6 hours ago, Saorsa said:

That's an interesting ballot.  Where is it from?

It looks like the infamous Palm Beach County Butterfly Ballot.

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Australian Senate ballot paper probably from NSW or Victoria.

Nothing wrong with it - if you can count past your number of fingers & thumbs. Which in your case is probably 12...

FKT

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48 minutes ago, Fah Kiew Tu said:

Australian Senate ballot paper probably from NSW or Victoria.

Nothing wrong with it - if you can count past your number of fingers & thumbs. Which in your case is probably 12...

FKT

and don't forget the fact you have various "Senate ballot for Dummies" options.

You don't have to number all the boxes..just 6 minimum? or all, or anywhere in between.

I can't remember the last time one of our Senate ballots was less than a "yard" long.

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