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A Really Cool 30' Daysailer

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Just oozes practicality, huh?  Why not hire 40 ton crane everytime you need to launch

 

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32 minutes ago, JimBowie said:

The updated JS 9001...

It's even narrower!

Doesn't look comfy at all :/

Edit - Nah I'm wrong AF, it's 1" wider.

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Hmmm, 30 footer with electric winches and a faggy as hell Bimini?

No thanks, I’ll take the canoe

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49 minutes ago, Sail4beer said:

Hmmm, 30 footer with electric winches and a faggy as hell Bimini?

No thanks, I’ll take the canoe

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Sometimes.... sometimes wisdom supersedes ‘faggy’.  Great familiarity with dermatologists tends to influence one’s priorities...

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On 11/25/2020 at 10:11 AM, Sail4beer said:

Hmmm, 30 footer with electric winches and a faggy as hell Bimini?

No thanks, I’ll take the canoe

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Are you using the word "faggy" in a derogatory sense? Because this fag doesn't appreciate it.

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I meant it like dodgy, so sorry  about that. The Bimini looks undersized and not well built for the boat, I didn’t mean that as a homosexual slight. I guess it doesn’t sound the way I wanted.

There is nothing homosexual looking about the boat, it is a boat and is inert. Heck, I don’t even call boats she! 

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Rekindles the love for my old 110. Remains one of the best boats I ever drove upwind.

Remember the turbo 110 that was developed and discussed in these hallowed forums?

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That inspired me to turbo my Ensign!

T in the logo is for Turbo

 

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On 11/24/2020 at 10:21 PM, JimBowie said:

Just oozes practicality, huh?  Why not hire 40 ton crane everytime you need to launch

 

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What's the draft? With that keel it wouldn't float anywhere around here

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Taunton did a nice 40’+ himself to the same pedigree

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Pass.

Cockpit too small, too wet, bimini is definitely a kludgey afterthought.

A 30' that needs a crane but does not have an inboard or a head?

Sorry if I was rich enough to just casually have a toy that expensive and THAT impractical, I'd want something either a lot faster or a lot more classic-y

FB- Doug

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21 hours ago, blurocketsmate said:

What's the draft? With that keel it wouldn't float anywhere around here

7 feet 10inch

 

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7 hours ago, Steam Flyer said:

Pass.

Cockpit too small, too wet, bimini is definitely a kludgey afterthought.

A 30' that needs a crane but does not have an inboard or a head?

Sorry if I was rich enough to just casually have a toy that expensive and THAT impractical, I'd want something either a lot faster or a lot more classic-y

FB- Doug

30 foot sailing canoe with powered hiking board. Oh wait, someone already came up with that...

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8 hours ago, Steam Flyer said:

Pass.

Cockpit too small, too wet, bimini is definitely a kludgey afterthought.

A 30' that needs a crane but does not have an inboard or a head?

Sorry if I was rich enough to just casually have a toy that expensive and THAT impractical, I'd want something either a lot faster or a lot more classic-y

FB- Doug

You mean like Bob Perry’s Boomer?!

I wouldn’t pass up a chance to sail on the 30’, but Bob’s boat is the bomb!

 

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10 minutes ago, Sail4beer said:
8 hours ago, Steam Flyer said:

Sorry if I was rich enough to just casually have a toy that expensive and THAT impractical, I'd want something either a lot faster or a lot more classic-y

FB- Doug

You mean like Bob Perry’s Boomer?!

I wouldn’t pass up a chance to sail on the 30’, but Bob’s boat is the bomb!

Reading the story, they probably cost about the same. I like Bob's daysailer.... it's bigger than 30ft though, isn't it? Also remedies most of the problems I complained about.

A turbo diesel is pretty far up the horsepower to weight ratio, though. And a WAY better drive system for anything other than pulling in/out of a slip in calm weather.

- DSK

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I'd stick with the JS9000 thanks... and were those bow cleats an after thought? 

 

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We have a winner for the World's Biggest Toothpick competition

 

4 hours ago, steelmadesteamer said:

Plunder designed 1922 Germany built

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On 11/26/2020 at 10:08 AM, redboat said:

Rekindles the love for my old 110. Remains one of the best boats I ever drove upwind.

Remember the turbo 110 that was developed and discussed in these hallowed forums?

The 210 weighs less than Paja or the Admiralty 30, granted it’s not as deep, and it’s plywood:wub: but I keep wondering what a 30’ modernized 110 would do instead of the prettified 210.  Low rider skinny Moths showed us something, after all.  There’s a lot to like about Paja.  The French seem to like putting guests back by the stern?  Judging by the Optio and a few others.  At what point do skinny monohulls start to perform better with an A cat rig?, like uh, A cats?

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5 hours ago, steelmadesteamer said:

Plunder designed 1922 Germany built

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Plank on edge, Victorian England

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And ICs modern 17*30’s and old 16*30’s....

 

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On 11/27/2020 at 1:38 PM, fastyacht said:

30 foot sailing canoe with powered hiking board. Oh wait, someone already came up with that...

Beat me to it.  Or something like that Olsen 30 with wings.  Maybe a stretched Lowrider Skinny Moth with a keel? Oh wait....

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1 hour ago, Black Jack said:

how much better is this new one verses one almost 15 years older ... 

Or you know, if you want to go down that path, an Adams 10 does remarkably well for something that is what,  circa 40 years old. 

https://www.adamsten.com.au/index.php 

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7 hours ago, Amati said:

The 210 weighs less than Paja or the Admiralty 30, granted it’s not as deep, and it’s plywood:wub: but I keep wondering what a 30’ modernized 110 would do instead of the prettified 210.  Low rider skinny Moths showed us something, after all.  There’s a lot to like about Paja.  The French seem to like putting guests back by the stern?  Judging by the Optio and a few others.  At what point do skinny monohulls start to perform better with an A cat rig?, like uh, A cats?

Ray did the longger 36 footer *before* the 110. Actually I think it was 35'8" but who's counting.

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14 minutes ago, fastyacht said:

Ray did the longger 36 footer *before* the 110. Actually I think it was 35'8" but who's counting.

550?  (Wasn’t the i550- anyway it’s hard to find).  Supposedly it was complex and expensive to build.  Cool looking though.  All of them were 1:6 B/L, IIRR.  Were Suicides skinnier than 1:6?  

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13 minutes ago, Amati said:

550?  (Wasn’t the i550- anyway it’s hard to find).  Supposedly it was complex and expensive to build.  Cool looking though.  All of them were 1:6 B/L, IIRR.  Were Suicides skinnier than 1:6?  

Nope.225.

It is on classicsailboats.org

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Just now, fastyacht said:

Nope.225.

It is on classicsailboats.org

That’s it!  Seriously sexy...

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20 minutes ago, fastyacht said:

 

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~7:1 L:B  2450lbs.  Was it planked, Sharpie style, or plywood?  Lines are lost?  
 

edit @lwl 35, D/l = 25, lwl,  30= 40.  
With plywood/uni e glass/epoxy & carbon in places? 6’ draft?  

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On 11/27/2020 at 9:45 AM, Benytoe said:

7 feet 10inch

 

We draw 8.5’.  Sure, there are places we dare not go.  Some bays.  Going upwind is fun....:)

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Another toothpick, 60’ though...

 

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On 11/29/2020 at 10:39 AM, TwoLegged said:

We have a winner for the World's Biggest Toothpick competition

 

 

A challenger emerges.

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7 hours ago, Amati said:

Another toothpick, 60’ though...

 

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Wylie for Charles Ray?

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3 hours ago, buck said:

Wylie for Charles Ray?

Yup.  Cool.

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Curious, will that Wylie be set up for single handed sailing? 60 ' is a lot...

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