JimBowie 328 #1 Posted November 25, 2020 Sorry to shit on Scooters turf with reference to another rag's article but this one is just too cool not to share https://www.yachtingworld.com/extraordinary-boats/paja-jack-setton-modern-whaleboat-128640?fbclid=IwAR2nffrxTI9lAc1784ci6LiR8Wrn_dQv3YrjWpO-BxFF_IY8i-BeyUOQxBw Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JimBowie 328 #2 Posted November 25, 2020 Just oozes practicality, huh? Why not hire 40 ton crane everytime you need to launch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JimBowie 328 #3 Posted November 25, 2020 The updated JS 9001... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darth reapius 155 #4 Posted November 25, 2020 32 minutes ago, JimBowie said: The updated JS 9001... It's even narrower! Doesn't look comfy at all :/ Edit - Nah I'm wrong AF, it's 1" wider. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sail4beer 2,009 #5 Posted November 25, 2020 Hmmm, 30 footer with electric winches and a faggy as hell Bimini? No thanks, I’ll take the canoe 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Veeger 310 #6 Posted November 25, 2020 49 minutes ago, Sail4beer said: Hmmm, 30 footer with electric winches and a faggy as hell Bimini? No thanks, I’ll take the canoe Sometimes.... sometimes wisdom supersedes ‘faggy’. Great familiarity with dermatologists tends to influence one’s priorities... 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heymatey 27 #8 Posted November 26, 2020 On 11/25/2020 at 10:11 AM, Sail4beer said: Hmmm, 30 footer with electric winches and a faggy as hell Bimini? No thanks, I’ll take the canoe Are you using the word "faggy" in a derogatory sense? Because this fag doesn't appreciate it. 11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sail4beer 2,009 #9 Posted November 26, 2020 I meant it like dodgy, so sorry about that. The Bimini looks undersized and not well built for the boat, I didn’t mean that as a homosexual slight. I guess it doesn’t sound the way I wanted. There is nothing homosexual looking about the boat, it is a boat and is inert. Heck, I don’t even call boats she! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redboat 35 #10 Posted November 26, 2020 Rekindles the love for my old 110. Remains one of the best boats I ever drove upwind. Remember the turbo 110 that was developed and discussed in these hallowed forums? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sail4beer 2,009 #11 Posted November 26, 2020 That inspired me to turbo my Ensign! T in the logo is for Turbo 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blurocketsmate 68 #12 Posted November 26, 2020 On 11/24/2020 at 10:21 PM, JimBowie said: Just oozes practicality, huh? Why not hire 40 ton crane everytime you need to launch What's the draft? With that keel it wouldn't float anywhere around here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fastyacht 1,460 #13 Posted November 26, 2020 Ray Hunt did a way cooler 36 foot fin keel daysailer. In the 30s. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redboat 35 #14 Posted November 26, 2020 3 hours ago, fastyacht said: Ray Hunt did a way cooler 36 foot fin keel daysailer. In the 30s. You mean like this................ http://classicsailboats.org/portfolio-view/c-raymond-hunt-international-410/ 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sail4beer 2,009 #15 Posted November 27, 2020 Taunton did a nice 40’+ himself to the same pedigree Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fastyacht 1,460 #16 Posted November 27, 2020 4 hours ago, redboat said: You mean like this................ http://classicsailboats.org/portfolio-view/c-raymond-hunt-international-410/ Yeah that one too, but that's not the one I was thinking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 4,748 #17 Posted November 27, 2020 Pass. Cockpit too small, too wet, bimini is definitely a kludgey afterthought. A 30' that needs a crane but does not have an inboard or a head? Sorry if I was rich enough to just casually have a toy that expensive and THAT impractical, I'd want something either a lot faster or a lot more classic-y FB- Doug 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benytoe 31 #18 Posted November 27, 2020 21 hours ago, blurocketsmate said: What's the draft? With that keel it wouldn't float anywhere around here 7 feet 10inch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fastyacht 1,460 #19 Posted November 27, 2020 7 hours ago, Steam Flyer said: Pass. Cockpit too small, too wet, bimini is definitely a kludgey afterthought. A 30' that needs a crane but does not have an inboard or a head? Sorry if I was rich enough to just casually have a toy that expensive and THAT impractical, I'd want something either a lot faster or a lot more classic-y FB- Doug 30 foot sailing canoe with powered hiking board. Oh wait, someone already came up with that... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fastyacht 1,460 #20 Posted November 27, 2020 The outboard motor is Dog's Breakfast. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sail4beer 2,009 #22 Posted November 27, 2020 8 hours ago, Steam Flyer said: Pass. Cockpit too small, too wet, bimini is definitely a kludgey afterthought. A 30' that needs a crane but does not have an inboard or a head? Sorry if I was rich enough to just casually have a toy that expensive and THAT impractical, I'd want something either a lot faster or a lot more classic-y FB- Doug You mean like Bob Perry’s Boomer?! I wouldn’t pass up a chance to sail on the 30’, but Bob’s boat is the bomb! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 4,748 #23 Posted November 27, 2020 10 minutes ago, Sail4beer said: 8 hours ago, Steam Flyer said: Sorry if I was rich enough to just casually have a toy that expensive and THAT impractical, I'd want something either a lot faster or a lot more classic-y FB- Doug You mean like Bob Perry’s Boomer?! I wouldn’t pass up a chance to sail on the 30’, but Bob’s boat is the bomb! Reading the story, they probably cost about the same. I like Bob's daysailer.... it's bigger than 30ft though, isn't it? Also remedies most of the problems I complained about. A turbo diesel is pretty far up the horsepower to weight ratio, though. And a WAY better drive system for anything other than pulling in/out of a slip in calm weather. - DSK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sail4beer 2,009 #24 Posted November 27, 2020 https://yotlot.com/robert-perry-36-custom-daysailer/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ALL@SEA 246 #25 Posted November 29, 2020 I'd stick with the JS9000 thanks... and were those bow cleats an after thought? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steelmadesteamer 6 #26 Posted November 29, 2020 Plunder designed 1922 Germany built 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TwoLegged 791 #27 Posted November 29, 2020 We have a winner for the World's Biggest Toothpick competition 4 hours ago, steelmadesteamer said: Plunder designed 1922 Germany built 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amati 1,346 #28 Posted November 29, 2020 On 11/26/2020 at 10:08 AM, redboat said: Rekindles the love for my old 110. Remains one of the best boats I ever drove upwind. Remember the turbo 110 that was developed and discussed in these hallowed forums? The 210 weighs less than Paja or the Admiralty 30, granted it’s not as deep, and it’s plywood but I keep wondering what a 30’ modernized 110 would do instead of the prettified 210. Low rider skinny Moths showed us something, after all. There’s a lot to like about Paja. The French seem to like putting guests back by the stern? Judging by the Optio and a few others. At what point do skinny monohulls start to perform better with an A cat rig?, like uh, A cats? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amati 1,346 #29 Posted November 29, 2020 5 hours ago, steelmadesteamer said: Plunder designed 1922 Germany built Plank on edge, Victorian England Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amati 1,346 #31 Posted November 29, 2020 And ICs modern 17*30’s and old 16*30’s.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amati 1,346 #32 Posted November 29, 2020 On 11/27/2020 at 1:38 PM, fastyacht said: 30 foot sailing canoe with powered hiking board. Oh wait, someone already came up with that... Beat me to it. Or something like that Olsen 30 with wings. Maybe a stretched Lowrider Skinny Moth with a keel? Oh wait.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Jack 267 #33 Posted November 29, 2020 how much better is this new one verses one almost 15 years older ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spoonie 73 #34 Posted November 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Black Jack said: how much better is this new one verses one almost 15 years older ... Or you know, if you want to go down that path, an Adams 10 does remarkably well for something that is what, circa 40 years old. https://www.adamsten.com.au/index.php 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fastyacht 1,460 #35 Posted November 30, 2020 7 hours ago, Amati said: The 210 weighs less than Paja or the Admiralty 30, granted it’s not as deep, and it’s plywood but I keep wondering what a 30’ modernized 110 would do instead of the prettified 210. Low rider skinny Moths showed us something, after all. There’s a lot to like about Paja. The French seem to like putting guests back by the stern? Judging by the Optio and a few others. At what point do skinny monohulls start to perform better with an A cat rig?, like uh, A cats? Ray did the longger 36 footer *before* the 110. Actually I think it was 35'8" but who's counting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amati 1,346 #36 Posted November 30, 2020 14 minutes ago, fastyacht said: Ray did the longger 36 footer *before* the 110. Actually I think it was 35'8" but who's counting. 550? (Wasn’t the i550- anyway it’s hard to find). Supposedly it was complex and expensive to build. Cool looking though. All of them were 1:6 B/L, IIRR. Were Suicides skinnier than 1:6? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fastyacht 1,460 #37 Posted November 30, 2020 13 minutes ago, Amati said: 550? (Wasn’t the i550- anyway it’s hard to find). Supposedly it was complex and expensive to build. Cool looking though. All of them were 1:6 B/L, IIRR. Were Suicides skinnier than 1:6? Nope.225. It is on classicsailboats.org Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amati 1,346 #38 Posted November 30, 2020 Just now, fastyacht said: Nope.225. It is on classicsailboats.org That’s it! Seriously sexy... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fastyacht 1,460 #39 Posted November 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Amati said: That’s it! Seriously sexy... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amati 1,346 #40 Posted November 30, 2020 20 minutes ago, fastyacht said: ~7:1 L:B 2450lbs. Was it planked, Sharpie style, or plywood? Lines are lost? edit @lwl 35, D/l = 25, lwl, 30= 40. With plywood/uni e glass/epoxy & carbon in places? 6’ draft? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amati 1,346 #41 Posted November 30, 2020 On 11/27/2020 at 9:45 AM, Benytoe said: 7 feet 10inch We draw 8.5’. Sure, there are places we dare not go. Some bays. Going upwind is fun.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amati 1,346 #42 Posted November 30, 2020 Another toothpick, 60’ though... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
'Bacco 78 #43 Posted November 30, 2020 On 11/29/2020 at 10:39 AM, TwoLegged said: We have a winner for the World's Biggest Toothpick competition A challenger emerges. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buck 3 #44 Posted December 1, 2020 7 hours ago, Amati said: Another toothpick, 60’ though... Wylie for Charles Ray? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amati 1,346 #45 Posted December 1, 2020 3 hours ago, buck said: Wylie for Charles Ray? Yup. Cool. 3 hours ago, buck said: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kraftwerk 10 #46 Posted December 3, 2020 Curious, will that Wylie be set up for single handed sailing? 60 ' is a lot... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fastyacht 1,460 #47 Posted December 3, 2020 On 11/30/2020 at 1:42 PM, 'Bacco said: A challenger emerges. Having been aboard, I give two thumbs up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Great Red Shark 379 #48 Posted December 4, 2020 On 11/27/2020 at 7:45 AM, Benytoe said: 7 feet 10inch No problem around here! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
