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Its a f****ng power boat. Who cares

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1 hour ago, Don said:

Its a f****ng power boat. Who cares

What is a powerboat? Have you been to the website?

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Why the fuck; if you wanted to single hand on a voyage around the world on a "voyage of self discovery" would you pay somebody to join an "event"? 

Some seriously shit boats for Europe round Antarctica event in that lost too! 

Edit... just found the bit where they want 7500 Euros out of each entrant plus carrying their branding for free etc... The big prize for being first..... 7500 Euros... somebody is having a laugh.

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2 hours ago, littlechay said:

Why the fuck; if you wanted to single hand on a voyage around the world on a "voyage of self discovery" would you pay somebody to join an "event"? 

Some seriously shit boats for Europe round Antarctica event in that lost too! 

Edit... just found the bit where they want 7500 Euros out of each entrant plus carrying their branding for free etc... The big prize for being first..... 7500 Euros... somebody is having a laugh.

Gotta agree with that sentiment.  That said, there are plenty of people that want to step outside their comfort zone, but either don't know how or don't want to step too far.

There is as much chance of that getting off the ground as there is of 10 IMOCAS in the The ocean Race!

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On 11/30/2020 at 11:49 PM, littlechay said:

Why the fuck; if you wanted to single hand on a voyage around the world on a "voyage of self discovery" would you pay somebody to join an "event"? 

Some seriously shit boats for Europe round Antarctica event in that lost too! 

Edit... just found the bit where they want 7500 Euros out of each entrant plus carrying their branding for free etc... The big prize for being first..... 7500 Euros... somebody is having a laugh.

Because everyone knows that singlehanders are just sitting on money, waiting for someone to show them where to put it.

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It's interesting. Set up by an old Class40 sailor called Marco Nanini - no idea what he's been doing since, I think he's a finance guy but he'll get some entries. My biggest concern would be who are the OA. Maybe the info is easy to find and I'm just being lazy... 

If you want to race around the world solo and non-stop you've only got two options. The Vendée Globe or the Golden Globe. The first is financially unattainable and the latter is run by a loony.

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Isn't there already like a half a dozen of these stupid wannabe races?

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35 minutes ago, TPG said:

Isn't there already like a half a dozen of these stupid wannabe races?

It's for amateurs, what's wrong with that?
Mark Slats, second in the Golden Globe 2018, was celebrated over here.

99,99 % of all yachtsmen are amateurs.

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On 12/4/2020 at 8:24 AM, furler49 said:

If you want to race around the world solo and non-stop you've only got two options. The Vendée Globe or the Golden Globe. The first is financially unattainable and the latter is run by a loony.

With rules like this it is hardly a race. Stops, outside assistance etc. etc. It is a cruise in company and as somebody pointed out there are half a dozen of these events already. 

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MOTORING

Engines shafts are not sealed and motoring is permitted. A maximum fuel allowance at the start will be specified.

Really? 

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8 hours ago, airacer said:

MOTORING

Engines shafts are not sealed and motoring is permitted. A maximum fuel allowance at the start will be specified.

Really? 

Yea there is precedent or two for this... The maximum fuel allowance is (will probably be) so small that it wouldn't make any difference to finish position. That part is an OK rule in this case IMO. 

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10 hours ago, littlechay said:

With rules like this it is hardly a race. Stops, outside assistance etc. etc. It is a cruise in company and as somebody pointed out there are half a dozen of these events already. 

Admittedly and having now read the NOR it does seem like a cruise in company but for some it will certainly be a race. Genuinely interested in what these other half a dozen events that already exist are? I'm not aware of any others! 

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11 hours ago, furler49 said:

Admittedly and having now read the NOR it does seem like a cruise in company but for some it will certainly be a race. Genuinely interested in what these other half a dozen events that already exist are? I'm not aware of any others! 

GGR, The French long route (whatever long route is in French), Jimmy Cornells ARC Global, and various other informal events. 

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It looks like an amazing opportunity for amateur sailors who maybe really want to do a big race but can't for whatever restrictions the other races impose that they can't meet. But how does a race like this one go ahead without the race itself having any corporate sponsors or partners to fund it? 

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5 hours ago, seasick said:

It looks like an amazing opportunity for amateur sailors who maybe really want to do a big race but can't for whatever restrictions the other races impose that they can't meet. But how does a race like this one go ahead without the race itself having any corporate sponsors or partners to fund it? 

Realistically what costs do they have? Tracking, Website, Insurance, costs associated to people - wages, accommodation etc. I cannot imagine the budget requirement will be huge. If they get good buy in from teams then each persons €7,500 entry fee will go pretty far. This isn't trying to compete with the VG or the VOR. It's the following circus that costs the big bucks! 

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On 12/16/2020 at 6:48 PM, furler49 said:

Realistically what costs do they have? Tracking, Website, Insurance, costs associated to people - wages, accommodation etc. I cannot imagine the budget requirement will be huge. If they get good buy in from teams then each persons €7,500 entry fee will go pretty far. This isn't trying to compete with the VG or the VOR. It's the following circus that costs the big bucks! 

The EUR7500 per person will go really far if it continues like this, but there's something that doesn't seem right about how it's set up. The organiser seems, from his public facebook page, to live in Italy - Brescia, it states. That's somewhere in Lombardy. The company behind the organisation of the race is a Ltd company registered in the UK. I mean, I'm sure there are reasons for it but shouldn't the entity running the race, given that its management and organisation comes from within Italy, be an Italian entity? I could see why this might not be the case if this were a once off thing but the company was incorporated in 2009, looking at the publicly available information at Companies House (actually just a google  search of its name). The organiser seems to have been living in Italy since around 2012 from looking at his list of accolades and medals (amazing achievements by the way, chapeau) on the "team" page of the race's site. I would worry, if I were a competitor spending this amount of money just to enter, that the race could be stopped for reasons to do with its organisation. You see, I think the organiser just might have perhaps got it wrong and perhaps an Italian SRL (similar to a UK Ltd company) should be set up to run the race if he wants to organise and manage it from within Italy. Or alternatively, the organiser should perhaps take himself off all the pages on the internet and be an invisible organiser /manager and appoint someone else who is clearly resident in the UK (as opposed to Italy), to avoid any risks that it could be seen as just another UK Ltd company operating within Italy and bending the rules, taking advantage of the more beneficial and easier system for companies in the UK versus Italy. Having said this, competitors maybe won't care as long as they get to do the race, and they're eager and willing to already part with their cash for it, so it may well be a non-point all around. Just important to note it, I think, for anyone who wants to delve a bit deeper. I think the costs of setting up an SRL to run this race would be in the region of EUR2,500 minimum, which is nothing given the money coming from the entry fees. This way the competitors could be sure that the underlying organisation and management is solid and there are no grey areas with regard to jurisdiction. 

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On 1/6/2021 at 7:56 AM, seasick said:

 

The EUR7500 per person will go really far if it continues like this, but there's something that doesn't seem right about how it's set up. The organiser seems, from his public facebook page, to live in Italy - Brescia, it states. That's somewhere in Lombardy. The company behind the organisation of the race is a Ltd company registered in the UK. I mean, I'm sure there are reasons for it but shouldn't the entity running the race, given that its management and organisation comes from within Italy, be an Italian entity? I could see why this might not be the case if this were a once off thing but the company was incorporated in 2009, looking at the publicly available information at Companies House (actually just a google  search of its name). The organiser seems to have been living in Italy since around 2012 from looking at his list of accolades and medals (amazing achievements by the way, chapeau) on the "team" page of the race's site. I would worry, if I were a competitor spending this amount of money just to enter, that the race could be stopped for reasons to do with its organisation. You see, I think the organiser just might have perhaps got it wrong and perhaps an Italian SRL (similar to a UK Ltd company) should be set up to run the race if he wants to organise and manage it from within Italy. Or alternatively, the organiser should perhaps take himself off all the pages on the internet and be an invisible organiser /manager and appoint someone else who is clearly resident in the UK (as opposed to Italy), to avoid any risks that it could be seen as just another UK Ltd company operating within Italy and bending the rules, taking advantage of the more beneficial and easier system for companies in the UK versus Italy. Having said this, competitors maybe won't care as long as they get to do the race, and they're eager and willing to already part with their cash for it, so it may well be a non-point all around. Just important to note it, I think, for anyone who wants to delve a bit deeper. I think the costs of setting up an SRL to run this race would be in the region of EUR2,500 minimum, which is nothing given the money coming from the entry fees. This way the competitors could be sure that the underlying organisation and management is solid and there are no grey areas with regard to jurisdiction. 

This is my revengeful ex wife Ella Connolly... for any question on the race, myself or organisation please feel free to contact me directly Marco Nannini, marco.nannini@globalsolochallenge.com, she trolling the net publishing various posts and comments under fake names trying to tarnish my reputation and that of the event, sad to see someone fall so low.

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What matters here isn't who writes the post but the content of the post. I could write nothing at all, but that would possibly leave competitors open to losing their non-refundable entry fee in the event that the Italian tax authority deems the organising company Marco Nannini Ltd, with registered office in England, to be based there fictitiously, and in fact having a permanent establishment on the Italian territory after 9 years of operations in Italy. This is a worthy point to make irrespective of who makes it. That the organiser chooses to not respond, preferring to state that any questions should be directed to him in private, is simply avoiding addressing the matter in public, where it can be discussed and conclusions arrived at openly and transparently. And frankly, if the organiser doesn't respond here I would take it as an indication that he wants to ignore or hide from the possibility of the race being forced to be stopped for possible breach of Italian income tax law (specifically, art. 73 of the consolidated income tax act, which states that a foreign company, can operate on italian territory (in the sense that it is has its effective place of management there) only for 183 days before being required to be registered in Italy). NB there is no attempt here to tarnish anyone's reputation, rather, my comments are geared at saving those reputations at risk of being lost.

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The organiser and his Ex washing dirty laundry in public is of no interest to me, apart from any salacious bedroom gossip ....

For me, I cant see how this event is going to work. It is either a cruise in company, or a race. If one begets the other, then its a different ball game. Amateurs who wanna be racers, but do it round the world gives me great concern for safety and experience. Make no mistake, a trip to the ice line in the Southern Ocean for days on end is no cruise in company.

The event as described does not appear to have the basic infrastructure to support such an adventure. It seems to be an idea based on the back of a fag packet and more than a few glasses of wine.

 

 

 

 

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