nacradriver 650 #1 Posted December 10, 2020 Sad... I actually like her.. Looks like Newsom found some wiggle room and his next pick (s) https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/dianne-feinsteins-missteps-raise-a-painful-age-question-among-senate-democrats Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grrr... 1,533 #2 Posted December 10, 2020 I don't know much about her at all, so I'll reserve judgement. But I've done the same thing, and I'm in my 40's. Who hasn't repeated themselves, or called their kid by another kid's name, or any one of a thousand other things you might do while you're on auto-pilot? I think of some of the things said in meetings here and in comparison what she did is hardly worth mentioning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pedagogical Tom 1,509 #3 Posted December 10, 2020 She still has important work to do battling the scourge of people like me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Olsonist 1,909 #4 Posted December 11, 2020 Except for the Majority Leadership vote, DiFi is for all intents a FiCon Republican. I lived in her precinct when I lived in SF and I've been aware of her since the Milk-Moscone assassination. Joe Manchin is more liberal. Jeff would hail DiFi as an American Maggie Thatcher (another latter day vegetable) if only she had an R behind her name. I'd have to compare DiFi's accomplishments with those of Barbara Lee and ask which has done less. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AJ Oliver 1,266 #5 Posted December 11, 2020 Since at least the 1970's the Corporate Reich has used term limits as a distraction from getting money out of politics. And the rubes still fall for it every time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raz'r 3,343 #6 Posted December 11, 2020 Term limits exist. It’s called voting. I didn’t vote for DiFi this tune around. She’s a fine lady, but her time is due. I expect her to either go Strom Thurmond and just be rolled out for photo-Ops or retire. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Not for nothing 240 #7 Posted December 11, 2020 I was all for term -limits until I watched this short video Let's talk about Trump, Feinstein, and term limits.... - YouTube we already have the ability to determine term limits , it's called voting Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Olsonist 1,909 #8 Posted December 11, 2020 14 minutes ago, Not for nothing said: I was all for term -limits until I watched this short video Let's talk about Trump, Feinstein, and term limits.... - YouTube we already have the ability to determine term limits , it's called voting In the case of DiFi, it's important to remember that this is California with a jungle primary and top two generals. This system, which has its advantages, makes it even harder to replace incumbents. For better or worse (worse), DiFi was re-elected by Republicans preferring her to Kevin de Leon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,290 #9 Posted December 11, 2020 31 minutes ago, Not for nothing said: I was all for term -limits until I watched this short video Let's talk about Trump, Feinstein, and term limits.... - YouTube we already have the ability to determine term limits , it's called voting So you'll vote Republican to get rid of her? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raz'r 3,343 #10 Posted December 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, SloopJonB said: So you'll vote Republican to get rid of her? In all likelihood, her opponent will be another Democrat. Not that she'll make it to 2024 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Olsonist 1,909 #11 Posted December 11, 2020 9 minutes ago, SloopJonB said: So you'll vote Republican to get rid of her? Again, CA has a jungle primary (all parties compete for two spots) and then a top two general. Republicans in California are just bonkers and so independents have grown tired of them. Consequently, Republicans very rarely have a candidate for the statewide offices. Moreover, looking at the field today, I can't think of any CA Republicans now who would rise above the field. It's a bad brand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacradriver 650 #12 Posted December 11, 2020 31 minutes ago, Olsonist said: For better or worse (worse), DiFi was re-elected by Republicans preferring her to Kevin de Leon. Fienstinen (blue) de Leon (everything else) A lot of the yellow you're seeing are "republican" strongholds in the state. She won because she was a known product. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_United_States_Senate_election_in_California Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Olsonist 1,909 #13 Posted December 11, 2020 What you're seeing in that map is a lot of Republicans not voting at all in 2018. In fact, Republicans actually had a candidate in the governors race, some radio talk show host named Cox who had moved here in 2011. Combined there were 7,721,410 + 4,742,825 = 12,464,235 votes in that Governors race. Cox got crushed. However, there were only 6,019,422 + 5,093,942 = 11,113,364 in the Senate race. So a lot of Republicans, but definitely not all, didn't vote in that race. Consequently, your statewide map of all voters means exactly squat. For extra credit, you can look at the Senate primary where the leading Republican got a little more than 8%. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aA 199 #14 Posted December 11, 2020 yup, two terms and they should be gone. reduce their lifetime bene and retirements too unless lobbying is abolished. end the toxic tribalism or continue with todays political idiocy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacradriver 650 #15 Posted December 11, 2020 12 minutes ago, Olsonist said: What you're seeing in that map is a lot of Republicans not voting at all in 2018. In fact, Republicans actually had a candidate in the governors race, some radio talk show host named Cox who had moved here in 2011. Combined there were 7,721,410 + 4,742,825 = 12,464,235 votes in that Governors race. Cox got crushed. However, there were only 6,019,422 + 5,093,942 = 11,113,364 in the Senate race. So a lot of Republicans, but definitely not all, didn't vote in that race. Consequently, your statewide map of all voters means exactly squat. We're not talking about the governors race this is a demographic of the Feinstine v. de Leon race.. County results Feinstein: 50–60% 60–70% de León: 50–60% 60–70% 70–80% de Leon with all of his left radical views scarred a lot of people, democrats included.. where he did well was with the large Hispanic populations. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Olsonist 1,909 #16 Posted December 11, 2020 15 minutes ago, nacradriver said: We're not talking about the governors race this is a demographic of the Feinstine v. de Leon race.. County results Feinstein: 50–60% 60–70% de León: 50–60% 60–70% 70–80% de Leon with all of his left radical views scarred a lot of people, democrats included.. where he did well was with the large Hispanic populations. That wasn't a demographic map, FiCons don't live in CA-1, de Leon is not radical leftist and I'm sorry if you were scarred. There's ObamaCare for that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raz'r 3,343 #17 Posted December 11, 2020 1 hour ago, nacradriver said: Fienstinen (blue) de Leon (everything else) A lot of the yellow you're seeing are "republican" strongholds in the state. She won because she was a known product. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_United_States_Senate_election_in_California 1 acre 1 vote! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Left Shift 2,750 #18 Posted December 11, 2020 So, the republicans get the chipmunk and coyote votes, and the democrats get the people? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Not for nothing 240 #19 Posted December 11, 2020 5 hours ago, SloopJonB said: So you'll vote Republican to get rid of her? As an Independ I vote for who I feel would do the best job, some times right other times wrong. Unfortunately many choice are who your voting against rather then who your voting for, I probably , in my life voted more Republican then Dem. ie; never voted for a Clinton ( either one) sadly in 2016 I didn't vote as I thought both were unqualified, So your answer is Yes, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites