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1 minute ago, shanghaisailor said:

NOW LIVE ON AMERICA'S CUP FACEBOOK PAGE

 

Fuck Facebook.....

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I’m in Australia, watching on Foxtel. 

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Ineos looking very comfortable in the conditions...

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16 minutes ago, Varan said:

So with no anchoring in the cable zone, are the spectators generally responsible enough to hold position without anchoring if the weather kicks in. 

As I thought stuff all spectators.  

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Question. 
Those double luff mains wouldn’t have any shape cut into them would they ?

Shape is controlled by mast rotation yes ?

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The wind is up and the sea is choppy ...maybe something might break :) 

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Woohoo bring it on !

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4 minutes ago, pusslicker said:

http://freestreams-live1.com/skyspomix/

This is free. Try it first.

I got strong vpn for $10 month and use a vpn in Belgium and can see it on you tube in US, don't spend the money!

 

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My prediction.... someone is going to have a butt clencher of a wipeout today. 

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Just now, Forourselves said:

Big day. Big waves, wind against tide.

Yep just as I expected.  Remember pulling in a long line in that sort of weather.  Got whacked dropped it.  Spent the next hour trying to find it.  Never did.

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INEOS seems much more stable in the pre-start & first bits up wind.......

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Did anyone else notice the columns of water pour out of the rudder/tiller around prestart on Rita?

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This isn't even much wind.

Everybody who has overcome the fear of wind says..


Let's go!

DRC

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INEOS a lot mor stable - just got that feeling that the |handbags are into the upper limits of current foil package,,,,,, bottom gate 17 sec or so - INEOS is not pointing as high....

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2 minutes ago, Tornado-Cat said:

40 kts only downwind with these conditions ? the F50 would smoke them :)

shoo

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1 minute ago, Kate short for Bob said:

The gusts are at the top of the range.  Trust me that sea state there is gnarly.  

And? Win the boat race.

 

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Prada  is killing them on vmg upwind. 

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Handbags +5 V.M.G & pointing much higher - who'd a thunk it.... really played the shifts much better.......

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43 minutes ago, porthos said:

Only you can answer that. There are, however, cheaper ways to watch it in the US.

I’ll ask that differently, how does one in the USA watch the full replays for free?

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6 minutes ago, Tornado-Cat said:

40 kts only downwind with these conditions ? the F50 would smoke them :)

Until they nosedive, capsize, break the wing and get towed back to the dock till next race.

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1 minute ago, craigj said:

I’ll ask that differently, how does one in the USA watch the full replays for free?

Wait a couple days and they will be on youtube. Just not live for free.

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2 minutes ago, Forourselves said:

Until they nosedive, capsize, break the wing and tow the bits back to the dock till next months  race.

FIFY

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LR might have just fucked this up big time. 
 

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what the actual F am I watching.....

both on their butts.....

1 hitch to the finish.....

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Just now, 167149 said:

fronts almost in

Can see the cloud rolling in from the west. 

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Fucking anti-climax! Can’t blame the race committee though. The call had to be made. 

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Despite the abandonment, that's the most enjoyable race so far from my point of view.

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Just now, jaysper said:

Despite the abandonment, that's the most enjoyable race so far from my point of view.

true dat

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They should have let the race go, it's part of the game, all of us sailors have known that in races. It would NOT have been a lottery today.

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Was just getting the handbag coms and the stern cam.

no commentary.

  anyone else seeing something else?

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3 minutes ago, Piet56 said:

what the actual F am I watching.....

both on their butts.....

1 hitch to the finish.....

You just saw a huge wind shift.  Essentially one moment the wind is blowing on your face and in an instant it drops and then whams you on your side.

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So the reason they stopped the racee is because they don't want to reach ? utter bullshit, that's part of sailing.

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Just now, Tugboat said:

Fucking anti-climax! Can’t blame the race committee though. The call had to be made. 

"The call had to be made. "   Why?  They can't sail through a wind shift???   Can't sail on a reach???

Sheesh... too light...  too strong...  wrong wind direction...  what next?

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1 minute ago, Raked Aft\\ said:

Was just getting the handbag coms and the stern cam.

no commentary.

  anyone else seeing something else?

Mate - depends on what feed you are watching....

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2 minutes ago, MaxHugen said:

"The call had to be made. "   Why?  They can't sail through a wind shift???   Can't sail on a reach???

Sheesh... too light...  too strong...  wrong wind direction...  what next?

I feel the same, not allowing a reach during an AC if there is a shift is just nonsense. So these $ 100 M boats can't sail on the reach ?

 

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Is there an upper wind limit that they cancel the race at? Maybe that happened with the new front coming in?

I feel like the wind shift alone shouldn't have been enough to abandon that. It was leg 5 too

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18 minutes ago, Tornado-Cat said:

40 kts only downwind with these conditions ? the F50 would smoke them :)

Please don’t make me post the videos of the F50s all self destructing 30 min before the start in NYC with just 20 knots of wind - this continued Cat discussion is just lame. 

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1 minute ago, Tornado-Cat said:

So the reason they stopped the racee is because they don't want to reach ? utter bullshit, that's part of sailing.

Since when as that been the case in windward leeward courses?

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1 minute ago, MaxHugen said:

Sheesh... too light...  too strong...  wrong wind direction...  what next?

Sir Kunty Koots turns up and demands Dalt's pays for Butterball's hospital bill's from Newport???

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Aukland weather is providing the only entertainment in this series so far. When the breeze is steady, the racing is shit with no passing and the boat that wins the start just bouncing off the boundary for three laps.

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2 minutes ago, Tornado-Cat said:

They should have let the race go, it's part of the game, all of us sailors have known that in races. It would NOT have been a lottery today.

Fucking hypocritical SOB. For so long, you and your little band of wanker haters have been using the word "Fair" now they make a call in the name of fairness, and you wanna let it go? Dickhead!

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1 minute ago, Kate short for Bob said:

Since when as that been the case in windward leeward courses?

Part of sailing.

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Before they pulled the pin Ineos had pulled off a nice lead change. They won’t be happy. 

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This is just a fckg joke!  wind shifts, abandon race because it isn't fair .... yesterday winds dies with a very few puffs, it is OK.

 

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1 minute ago, Redreuben said:

Before they pulled the pin Ineos had pulled off a nice lead change. They won’t be happy. 

Notable that LR had better VMG for most of the race!  Sometimes by quite a few knots.

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17 minutes ago, Redreuben said:

Prada  is killing them on vmg upwind. 

Indeed. They did very well going uphill.

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1 minute ago, XPRO said:

Please don’t make me post the videos of the F50s all self destructing 30 min before the start in NYC with just 20 knots of wind - this continued Cat discussion is just lame. 

If you put this fleet in NYC on that day  it would have been equally splintered. Also, the RC in this event has featured far less stones than the SailGP race committee on the days when the shit has hit the fan for Sailgp. The risk of breakage is the opportunity for seamanship. Let's just call off the southern ocean in the ocean race next.

DRC

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5 minutes ago, Kate short for Bob said:

Since when as that been the case in windward leeward courses?

What? Committees don't usually abandon races just from a wind shift, has that actually ever happened to you?

They might adjust a mark, or postpone a start to adjust the course, but not a mid-race abandonment.

I have a feeling this had to do with dangerous conditions (the wind going across the waves, or something, just a guess). Dangerous conditions is the only time I've seen a race abandoned mid-race (or from lack of wind).

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Just gone through the Hand book - don't see the words "fair" anywhere .... it is what is is once the gun goes....

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12 minutes ago, craigj said:

I’ll ask that differently, how does one in the USA watch the full replays for free?

Fairly extensive highlights (25+ minutes) are available in the US. To get full race replays, you need to use a VPN. There are free VPN's and there are ones that are about $10/month. I ended up going with a paid service NordVPN as looking around at reviews some of the free VPN's can be janky.  

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1 minute ago, Tornado-Cat said:

Part of sailing.

Not in windward leeward match racing.  You might get away with it in fleet racing.

But I'm starting to sense you are an amateur that has a bitch with the AC75.

You only had to look at the lay lines from the marks skewing like crazy to see the wind change.

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Before the cancellation LR was looking faster in the conditions. Ineos seem better at lower winds 

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Checking in to see who is defending this BS abandonment.

WetHog  :ph34r:

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3 minutes ago, The_Alchemist said:

This is just a fckg joke!  wind shifts, abandon race because it isn't fair .... yesterday winds dies with a very few puffs, it is OK.

 

FFS you whining little bitch! Did you not hear Ken Read? he literally explained the difference!

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1 minute ago, WetHog said:

Checking in to see who is defending this BS abandonment.

WetHog  :ph34r:

Phew! The Justice League is here!

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1 minute ago, WetHog said:

Checking in to see who is defending this BS abandonment.

WetHog  :ph34r:

Funny, the same reason the haters have been going on about since the beginning. A FAIR race course.

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Shit that chilly bin is going to fetch a good sum on trademe

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Just now, rh3000 said:

Phew! The Justice League is here!

Send for the Avengers......:ph34r:

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3 minutes ago, WetHog said:

Checking in to see who is defending this BS abandonment.

WetHog  :ph34r:

The usual suspects.

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9 minutes ago, Piet56 said:

Just gone through the Hand book - don't see the words "fair" anywhere .... it is what is is once the gun goes....

I agree. 

INEOS might have reason to feel aggrieved but to be honest I'm not sure Prada weren't in the better position at time of abandonment.

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Okay, I'm making a beer run. Anybody need anything? Please give me a 5 min. heads up before the next start.

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Just now, pusslicker said:

The usual suspects.

Was just going to post this.  GDs minions. 

WetHog  :ph34r:

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