rh3000 1,615 #1401 Posted January 17 2 minutes ago, jsn7821 said: WHO IS ON THE BACKSTAY I was... but I'm on the couch sinking piss... should I have been doing something? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bgytr 339 #1402 Posted January 17 1 minute ago, Hitchhiker said: My text as this day started. Carnage for how many millions? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Redreuben 64 #1403 Posted January 17 The tack went fine but the runner screwed the bear away. Someone is ringing the bell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GBR562 10 #1404 Posted January 17 shit it could sink Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
167149 135 #1405 Posted January 17 now its sinking too 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arr4ws 80 #1406 Posted January 17 Boat is sooo low on water Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmyHate 86 #1407 Posted January 17 Shit she's sitting low in the water Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horn Rock 1,325 #1408 Posted January 17 Yeah the bows are flooded. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zillafreak 105 #1409 Posted January 17 Boat is awash to the deck! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barnyb 410 #1410 Posted January 17 Youtube feed finishing. Is there another feed? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GSBTom 10 #1411 Posted January 17 As soon as I saw them tacking around the mark, I literally spit out my beer. Nathan had it right, bear away would have been the safer move. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rh3000 1,615 #1412 Posted January 17 fuck they took their time to right that boat... Can't recall if patriot has capsized before... someone forgot it needs a bung? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
animeproblem 222 #1413 Posted January 17 Been pretty up front about my support of LR, but sure as fuck hate to see a race end that way. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmyHate 86 #1414 Posted January 17 Just now, Barnyb said: Youtube feed finishing. Is there another feed? Nah TVNZ will be going to news Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arr4ws 80 #1415 Posted January 17 Man the electronic are surely toasted Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
167149 135 #1417 Posted January 17 can definely see a complete rethink of crew position wise on the old flat top sperm cell Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jsn7821 30 #1418 Posted January 17 Hahahahaha AM starts sinking - sad melodramatic music starts - "we'll see you next weekend!" - live feed ENDS ???????????? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kate short for Bob 266 #1420 Posted January 17 Call it whatever way you wish but AM fucked entry to the starting box, got the start wrong, got lucky on one leg and then went to hard when they had 500m in the bank. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horn Rock 1,325 #1421 Posted January 17 The FCS might be getting a bath.....in salt water...... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jsn7821 30 #1422 Posted January 17 Is this more character building??? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mako23 451 #1423 Posted January 17 Even if it doesn’t sink there electronics are going to be all f&*ked up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Varan 1,930 #1424 Posted January 17 1 minute ago, Gissie said: This. How can you grind and call tactics. Exactly. Huffin and puffin trying to pump like a young buck. Ain't happening. Somebody needs to have their head out of the boat. No fault but theirs. But damn, ETNZ designed an indestructible mast section. How and the heck did that mast not break? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Alchemist 1,256 #1425 Posted January 17 too many tactical fck ups by AM Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Redreuben 64 #1426 Posted January 17 1 minute ago, Kate short for Bob said: Call it whatever way you wish but AM fucked entry to the starting box, got the start wrong, got lucky on one leg and then went to hard when they had 500m in the bank. Your right but it still sucks for the overall competition, I hope they get the boat working again soon. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Alchemist 1,256 #1427 Posted January 17 The whole boat jumped out of the water. Must have cracked something to get that much water in the hull. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arr4ws 80 #1428 Posted January 17 I cant believe they cut the feed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kate short for Bob 266 #1429 Posted January 17 Just now, Redreuben said: Your right but it still sucks for the overall competition, I hope they get the boat working again soon. Agreed. LOL I wonder if AM found that long line I lost out there. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Piet56 67 #1430 Posted January 17 Glad everyone got through that safe & in 1 piece Who called that move\? Fairly certain I heard D.B. advising against it Is there something else broken on Patriot? never seen any of current breed of boat flood that fast Someone, somewhere is gonna take one in the butt...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Redreuben 64 #1431 Posted January 17 2 minutes ago, Varan said: Exactly. Huffin and puffin trying to pump like a young buck. Ain't happening. Somebody needs to have their head out of the boat. No fault but theirs. But damn, ETNZ designed an indestructible mast section. How and the heck did that mast not break? Or the foils under that cartwheel 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bgytr 339 #1432 Posted January 17 Maybe time to change a few things around the organization? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eurochild 39 #1433 Posted January 17 Just now, arr4ws said: I cant believe they cut the feed. +1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snaerk 62 #1434 Posted January 17 2 minutes ago, Varan said: Exactly. Huffin and puffin trying to pump like a young buck. Ain't happening. Somebody needs to have their head out of the boat. No fault but theirs. But damn, ETNZ designed an indestructible mast section. How and the heck did that mast not break? umm ... not mutsh ryting moment Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arr4ws 80 #1435 Posted January 17 Just now, bgytr said: Maybe time to change a few things around the organization? Nathan is a free agent Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mako23 451 #1436 Posted January 17 I hope that the other teams including ETNZ chip in and help. There’s enough tenders out there to stop the boat sinking. A lot of electronics will need fixing or replacing. Other syndicates should cough up spares to help. The Bad days of Dennis Conner win at all cost are behind us and teams should act accordingly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Alchemist 1,256 #1437 Posted January 17 Just now, Piet56 said: Glad everyone got through that safe & in 1 piece Who called that move\? Fairly certain I heard D.B. advising against it Is there something else broken on Patriot? never seen any of current breed of boat flood that fast Someone, somewhere is gonna take one in the butt...... Dean called it. The sail trimmer kept trying to talk them out of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nroose 189 #1438 Posted January 17 Yeah. They were ahead. They should have been conservative. They wanted to shut the door, so they were doing an agressive move in a huge puff, and then there was something of almost a mutiny, and someone forgot to let off the runner. Definition of chaos. I guess sailing in big wind can get that way, but this is indemic of a leader-tactition-grinder mindset. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaysper 640 #1439 Posted January 17 8 minutes ago, GBR562 said: shit it could sink wot are u seeing that I cant? These boats are usually pretty easy to right Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barnyb 410 #1440 Posted January 17 TNZ went sailing the day after their last capsize! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tugboat 54 #1441 Posted January 17 See you all again Friday. Hopefully 3 boats make the start line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kate short for Bob 266 #1442 Posted January 17 1 minute ago, Piet56 said: Who called that move\? Fairly certain I heard D.B. advising against it I dont think they have someone in charge on the boat. There is a disconnect. Perhaps Barker doesn't want to be just Helmsman but Skipper as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RantyDave 12 #1443 Posted January 17 Just now, nroose said: Yeah. They were ahead. They should have been conservative. Nah, you should do the same thing you do every time. Letting the leeward runner off, for instance. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
17mika 169 #1444 Posted January 17 2 minutes ago, Piet56 said: Glad everyone got through that safe & in 1 piece Who called that move\? Fairly certain I heard D.B. advising against it Is there something else broken on Patriot? never seen any of current breed of boat flood that fast Someone, somewhere is gonna take one in the butt...... It was goodie who was questioning the manouvres 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doot Master Flex 13 #1445 Posted January 17 Just now, Barnyb said: TNZ went sailing the day after their last capsize! They didn’t turn their boat into a submarine though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zillafreak 105 #1446 Posted January 17 You can hear Goodison trying to talk them out of the maneuver. Kept saying "this is gonna be a rough one". So who called it Barker or TH? 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Piet56 67 #1447 Posted January 17 Just now, Barnyb said: TNZ went sailing the day after their last capsize! Patriot ain't ETNZ stud...... Holy shit - well that's a hell of a cash conversion job....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gorn FRANTIC!! 403 #1448 Posted January 17 2 minutes ago, arr4ws said: Nathan is a free agent Won't qualify under the nationality clause. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arr4ws 80 #1449 Posted January 17 Just now, zillafreak said: You can hear Goodison trying to talk them out of the maneuver. Kept saying "this is gonna be a rough one". So who called it Barker or TH? thats the problem on AM , who the fuck LEAD that boat 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
P_Wop 1,887 #1450 Posted January 17 Did they sink? My coverage crapped out just after the capsize Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RobG 753 #1452 Posted January 17 1 minute ago, Gorn FRANTIC!! said: Won't qualify under the nationality clause. He's been resident in NZ for quite some time, so maybe… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Piet56 67 #1453 Posted January 17 See y'all next week I guess.... I am back to bed..... 05h a.m..... that's enough excitement for the day...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kate short for Bob 266 #1454 Posted January 17 3 minutes ago, nroose said: I guess sailing in big wind can get that way, but this is indemic of a leader-tactition-grinder mindset. Hutchison is supposedly Skipper and Director. WTF at 52 years of age is he doing grinding AND making calls! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idontwan2know 90 #1455 Posted January 17 Well, on the bright side, the boat seemed very fast in these conditions. But wow they have fundamental crew role issues and they need to make a change immediately. Hope the boat can be back out on the water quickly so they can practice whatever new arrangement they decide on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaysper 640 #1456 Posted January 17 4 minutes ago, mako23 said: I hope that the other teams including ETNZ chip in and help. There’s enough tenders out there to stop the boat sinking, But a lot of electronics will need fixing or replacing. Other syndicates should cough up spares to help I don't know about SHOULD, but I hope they do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JALhazmat 1,175 #1457 Posted January 17 3 minutes ago, Barnyb said: TNZ went sailing the day after their last capsize! They were not half full of water Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Alchemist 1,256 #1458 Posted January 17 3 minutes ago, Barnyb said: TNZ went sailing the day after their last capsize! NZ didn't fly so high out of the water and come crashing back down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Varan 1,930 #1459 Posted January 17 Why does Deano grip the wheel so hard? Does not show confidence or comfort. So far, in the Prada Cup, my favorite helmsperson is Francesco Bruni. Calm, smart, love listening to this guy. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Redreuben 64 #1460 Posted January 17 Great, now I have to watch cricket Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RobG 753 #1461 Posted January 17 The bottom line though is that even if you lose every round robin race, you still have the same chance of making the final as the boat that finishes second. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mako23 451 #1462 Posted January 17 Is anyone out in the water at the moment who can give us an update. The morons cut the broadcasts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Redreuben 64 #1463 Posted January 17 Just now, Varan said: Why does Deano grip the wheel so hard? Does not show confidence or comfort. So far, in the Prada Cup, my favorite helmsperson is Francesco Bruni. Calm, smart, love listening to this guy. And he inspires confidence Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Alchemist 1,256 #1464 Posted January 17 1 minute ago, Barnyb said: I swear a few click later and you could see the rudder and foil out of the water. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rh3000 1,615 #1465 Posted January 17 On live news now... boat is still singking... fuck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rushman 229 #1466 Posted January 17 1 minute ago, JALhazmat said: They were not half full of water Half? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tornado-Cat 929 #1467 Posted January 17 5 minutes ago, nroose said: Yeah. They were ahead. They should have been conservative. They wanted to shut the door, so they were doing an agressive move in a huge puff, and then there was something of almost a mutiny, and someone forgot to let off the runner. Definition of chaos. I guess sailing in big wind can get that way, but this is indemic of a leader-tactition-grinder mindset. When we sail in good wind, even when not ahead, we are generally conservative. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rh3000 1,615 #1468 Posted January 17 Floatation buoys attached... but it was almost just sails above the water now... seriously... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baconator 79 #1469 Posted January 17 Helmsman steers the boat .... Barker C. H. O. K. E. D. System normal 1 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GBR562 10 #1470 Posted January 17 #pradacup on twitter for those of us in the Northern Hem Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Redreuben 64 #1471 Posted January 17 1 minute ago, Redreuben said: Great, now I have to watch cricket Fuck the Indians are still batting. Sad Face Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JALhazmat 1,175 #1472 Posted January 17 1 minute ago, rh3000 said: On live news now... boat is still singking... fuck NZ news or a live stream somewhere? poor fuckers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rh3000 1,615 #1474 Posted January 17 If it doesn't go down to the bottom of the sea, it's going to be a lot of work to get back in commission Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WakaNZ 161 #1475 Posted January 17 Just now, arr4ws said: BOAT IS SINKING Feed or photo? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arr4ws 80 #1476 Posted January 17 live sail die is live on facebook . 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JALhazmat 1,175 #1477 Posted January 17 Just now, Baconator said: Helmsman steers the boat .... Barker C. H. O. K. E. D. System normal Sock prick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
P_Wop 1,887 #1478 Posted January 17 Electronics and seawater aren't friends Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tornado-Cat 929 #1479 Posted January 17 6 minutes ago, Barnyb said: TNZ went sailing the day after their last capsize! The races are not finished yet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gorn FRANTIC!! 403 #1480 Posted January 17 4 minutes ago, RobG said: He's been resident in NZ for quite some time, so maybe… Not of the US but, which is who it's being suggested he sail for. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rh3000 1,615 #1482 Posted January 17 Just now, JALhazmat said: NZ news or a live stream somewhere? poor fuckers Live over the air broadcast... TVNZ One News does to a live stream, see if you can get it running LSD https://fb.watch/33wrXqR9Rg/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arr4ws 80 #1484 Posted January 17 boat is completely submerged right now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baconator 79 #1485 Posted January 17 Karma for a choker. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barnyb 410 #1486 Posted January 17 https://www.facebook.com/livesaildie.official Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sailor Y 23 #1487 Posted January 17 https://www.facebook.com/livesaildie.official/videos/2427510050727566 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arr4ws 80 #1488 Posted January 17 you cant barely see it out of the water Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snaerk 62 #1490 Posted January 17 50 minutes ago, nroose said: Did they say whether they went larger or smaller? I fear they went smaller and will regret the decision. I still don't get why these boats are using the low aspect ratio jibs. I thought TNZ taught all the challengers that lesson during the Christmas cup. Ahem (thay went smaller) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Redreuben 64 #1491 Posted January 17 Bugger I don’t do Faceache Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
P_Wop 1,887 #1492 Posted January 17 Hey, guys, pass me my old blue bucket... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barnyb 410 #1493 Posted January 17 Its coming up now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
littlechay 699 #1494 Posted January 17 That port foil hit the water almost flat. The forces transmitted up the arm to the hull pivot must have been huge. My bet is that there is a crack there! 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toad 690 #1495 Posted January 17 4 minutes ago, arr4ws said: BOAT IS SINKING zis is ze coast guard; vat are you sinking? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
