idontwan2know 90 #1601 Posted January 17 Tipping her over won't do anything with the whole hull submerged, damage will still be underwater. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arr4ws 78 #1603 Posted January 17 1 minute ago, Robin_sweden said: Yeah, that's never a good sign. Is any of the hull even above water? What use are the pumps if the hull is fully submerged anyway? whole hull underwater Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mako23 433 #1604 Posted January 17 Not looking good at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toad 687 #1605 Posted January 17 great memes but seriously, this is a disaster for the series. but no one hurt right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WetHog 522 #1606 Posted January 17 Man it looks like they may lose her. WetHog Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crashtack 163 #1607 Posted January 17 Let this be a lesson, put someone very trustworthy on your backstays (or get rid of them entirely) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rainier 72 #1608 Posted January 17 Anybody got video of the crash? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horn Rock 1,316 #1609 Posted January 17 If they lose Patriot their program is over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Forourselves 1,153 #1610 Posted January 17 Shit, this doesn't look good. Boys better dust off Defiant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WetHog 522 #1611 Posted January 17 Just now, Rainier said: Anybody got video of the crash? WetHog 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idontwan2know 90 #1612 Posted January 17 All that's missing is the string quartet playing "Nearer My God To Thee". 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
33jesus 47 #1613 Posted January 17 "Removing all electronics as soon as possible...." via LSD on FB. Wow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mako23 433 #1614 Posted January 17 2 minutes ago, toad said: great memes but seriously, this is a disaster for the series. but no one hurt right? No one hurt ...maybe a few careers damaged Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Charlatan 13 #1615 Posted January 17 Live feed link https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?v=129774008967086&ref=watch_permalink Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robin_sweden 4 #1616 Posted January 17 3 minutes ago, arr4ws said: whole hull underwater That's just sad they need to get the crew of the boat and get some more flotation bags around or in the hull, and a sail or something to block the hole, so maybe she can float high enough for the pumps to do anything useful... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rainier 72 #1617 Posted January 17 Thanks WetHog! Thats ugly.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horn Rock 1,316 #1618 Posted January 17 What a disaster...so bad for the event. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EYESAILOR 705 #1619 Posted January 17 Why is a salvage vessel not on scene yet. They have equipment to save the boat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rh3000 1,596 #1620 Posted January 17 The cameras on the mast are getting lower and lower Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mako23 433 #1621 Posted January 17 ETNZ crew heavily involved in rescue.......good to see 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horn Rock 1,316 #1622 Posted January 17 Well she hasn't gone down any further. They might have stabilised it - hope so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Alchemist 1,255 #1623 Posted January 17 They should have enough of those salvage bags inflated to keep her from sinking. You would be amazed how much they can lift. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EYESAILOR 705 #1624 Posted January 17 So many people standing on the boat. Get the salvage professionals there. Its been an hour Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rushman 227 #1625 Posted January 17 Deck looks to be above water now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaysper 561 #1626 Posted January 17 3 minutes ago, Horn Rock said: Well she hasn't gone down any further. They might have stabilised it - hope so. I figured they'd stick some of the floaties inside her to evacuate some of the water. Or is there no way to get into the hull? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WetHog 522 #1629 Posted January 17 This is like 2003 all over again. NYYC doesn’t have great luck sailing for the Cup in NZ. WetHog 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
33jesus 47 #1630 Posted January 17 1 minute ago, mako23 said: ETNZ crew heavily involved in rescue.......good to see Yup Pete is over there helping move the mainsail. Just as a gust comes up too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeusproject 162 #1631 Posted January 17 What is great to see is every other team helping as much as they can 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nroose 189 #1632 Posted January 17 Live Sail Die just said that Pete Burling is on AM and helping... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Varan 1,915 #1633 Posted January 17 Cannot connect to the FB live feed. Is there another? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horn Rock 1,316 #1634 Posted January 17 Burling helping to load the AM main onto the ETNZ support boat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crashtack 163 #1635 Posted January 17 Pistol Pete getting a good look at the Quantum main 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Priscilla 2,305 #1636 Posted January 17 10 minutes ago, Robin_sweden said: Yeah, that's never a good sign. Is any of the hull even above water? What use are the pumps if the hull is fully submerged anyway? Divers are placing flotation bags under the submerged hull pumps will make some progress once they are inflated I hope. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chocoa 10 #1637 Posted January 17 http://forums.sailinganarchy.com/index.php?/topic/157227-where-are-they-now-retired-americas-cup-boat/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nroose 189 #1638 Posted January 17 Put that mainsail under the hull and then pump... That should work! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeusproject 162 #1639 Posted January 17 1 minute ago, crashtack said: Pistol Pete getting a good look at the Quantum main Doyle main built for Quantum Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horn Rock 1,316 #1640 Posted January 17 Showing a bit of freeboard now......looks promising. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Redreuben 64 #1641 Posted January 17 1 minute ago, nroose said: Put that mainsail under the hull and then pump... That should work! Not with foil arms in way. which is most likely where the damage is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mako23 433 #1642 Posted January 17 The bow has surfaced Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Alchemist 1,255 #1643 Posted January 17 good part of the hull now out of the water Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idontwan2know 90 #1644 Posted January 17 Looks like maybe she's starting to rise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EYESAILOR 705 #1645 Posted January 17 looking a bit better Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeusproject 162 #1646 Posted January 17 3 minutes ago, Varan said: Cannot connect to the FB live feed. Is there another? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shanghaisailor 1,288 #1647 Posted January 17 4 minutes ago, EYESAILOR said: So many people standing on the boat. Get the salvage professionals there. Its been an hour They are 20 miles from Auckland. Even if a salvage tug was flashed up at the very moment of the capsize it would take approaching 2 hours to get to the site Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Alchemist 1,255 #1648 Posted January 17 Remember to check the mainsail when they get it back to the base, all of those kiwi sailors have safety knives on them.... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nroose 189 #1649 Posted January 17 1 minute ago, Redreuben said: Not with foil arms in way. which is most likely where the damage is. Fact checking my joke... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horn Rock 1,316 #1651 Posted January 17 Fingers crossed it's getting better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rainier 72 #1652 Posted January 17 Sure looks like the foil arm rips backwards on re-entry. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nroose 189 #1653 Posted January 17 Seems like the feed should have stayed on this. Probably would have gotten more views than the regular racing. And they are right there with a great view and good camera. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nroose 189 #1654 Posted January 17 Someone jinxed the foil arms earlier today... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rh3000 1,596 #1655 Posted January 17 When Spark were promoting 5g coverage I don't think they were planning LSD's live FB feed 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indio 891 #1656 Posted January 17 ETNZ boat builders are probably on stand by to now to help...if asked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nroose 189 #1657 Posted January 17 LiveSailDie has 3.2k viewers on. I wonder if that is high for them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lupedelupe 16 #1658 Posted January 17 2 minutes ago, nroose said: Seems like the feed should have stayed on this. Probably would have gotten more views than the regular racing. And they are right there with a great view and good camera. I don’t think the onboard cameras will be working anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robin_sweden 4 #1659 Posted January 17 Just now, Rainier said: Sure looks like the foil arm rips backwards on re-entry. I initially thought it looked like the whole port fool arm was ripped off, but luckily that was not the case, you could see atleast the arm when they righted her. But, the hull may well be cracked around the foil. I thought that she was floating a lot lower than ETNZ when she was still on her side, probably started filling up very quickly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
33jesus 47 #1660 Posted January 17 2 minutes ago, Rainier said: Sure looks like the foil arm rips backwards on re-entry. I think you're right. Water is definitely gushing in. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaysper 561 #1661 Posted January 17 13 minutes ago, Horn Rock said: Well she hasn't gone down any further. They might have stabilised it - hope so. I figured they'd stick some of the floaties inside her to evacuate some of the water. Or is there no way to get into the hull? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nroose 189 #1662 Posted January 17 Even SA seems to have jinxed AM: https://sailinganarchy.com/2021/01/15/yanks-tumble/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaysper 561 #1663 Posted January 17 Can't believe they went from a dominant position to this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kevlar 22 #1664 Posted January 17 I was hoping to see this happen on the NBC replay on the US east coast, but it looks like I'm just recording ads. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barnyb 366 #1665 Posted January 17 Port foil arm hits water very hard. I would suggest that is were the problem is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rainier 72 #1666 Posted January 17 Actually it looks like the hull fails and the foil arm rips back before they even lift off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mako23 433 #1668 Posted January 17 Sound like a commentary from a 12 year old........doing a good job for a lad of that age Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mako23 433 #1669 Posted January 17 A meter of the hull above the water 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horn Rock 1,316 #1670 Posted January 17 Sounds like they're winning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zillafreak 98 #1671 Posted January 17 https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/sport/other/capsize-dean-barkers-american-magic-suffer-horror-crash-after-going-airborne-chasing-first-prada-cup-win?auto=6223520267001 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rushman 227 #1672 Posted January 17 I see three teams helping... did Ineos head home early? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kate short for Bob 264 #1673 Posted January 17 They won't get it back to Port before dark. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mako23 433 #1674 Posted January 17 The boat is saved...phew 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horn Rock 1,316 #1675 Posted January 17 2 minutes ago, mako23 said: doing a good job for a lad of that age It's a girl isn't it? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Foiling Optimist 242 #1676 Posted January 17 I was showing my son the video and we convinced ourselves you can see the foil arm being pushed back as it crashes down. Then I showed him the One Australia sinking and he's trying to isolate the line when the annoucer said, "The boat....is turning into a banana". It's for the memes, you see. Props to Live Sail Die for staying on the live feed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Alchemist 1,255 #1677 Posted January 17 attaching tow line to bow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WetHog 522 #1678 Posted January 17 1 minute ago, mako23 said: The boat is saved...phew Yes, excellent news. It didn’t look good there for a bit. WetHog Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tugboat 54 #1679 Posted January 17 Someone of the LSD feed just reported that a SeaTow vessel has arrived. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaysper 561 #1680 Posted January 17 I hope Etnz et al offer shore crew to fix her up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaysper 561 #1682 Posted January 17 3 minutes ago, WetHog said: Yes, excellent news. It didn’t look good there for a bit. WetHog Still gotta make it 20 miles, but yea a lot better. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RantyDave 12 #1683 Posted January 17 5 minutes ago, Rainier said: Actually it looks like the hull fails and the foil arm rips back before they even lift off. Looking at the video, I think you're right. Just before they go to the moon there's a BIG flurry of water off the port foil. I bet the housing gave out and it ripped backwards, giving it way too much lift at a really bad moment..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rh3000 1,596 #1684 Posted January 17 1 minute ago, jaysper said: I hope Etnz et al offer shore crew to fix her up. Like that time they offered a lay-day to Oracle? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rushman 227 #1685 Posted January 17 3 minutes ago, jaysper said: I hope all other teams offer shore crew to fix her up. FIFY 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Liquid Assett NZ 44 #1686 Posted January 17 Gonna be a great press conference Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nroose 189 #1687 Posted January 17 Just a reflection. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kate short for Bob 264 #1688 Posted January 17 19 minutes ago, EYESAILOR said: So many people standing on the boat. Get the salvage professionals there. Its been an hour It would take an hour or more to get there even if a salvage boat was ready and available. It won't be easy getting it back. But at least they will have tide with them if they move soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Alchemist 1,255 #1689 Posted January 17 Looks like NYYC told Davy Jones he had to give it back. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mako23 433 #1690 Posted January 17 Just now, jaysper said: I hope Etnz et al offer shore crew to fix her up. I hope that all the syndicates offer help. If each syndicate offered 4 or 5 technicians the rebuild could be 24 hours a day Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rh3000 1,596 #1691 Posted January 17 Quite a flotsam haul out on the water today boyzz... I scored myself some bananas, an ineos chilli bin, and an AM foil-arm assembly! Drinks on me at swashies! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sailbydate 2,553 #1692 Posted January 17 They are fothering her by the look. Serious hull damage I'd say. Doesn't look good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mako23 433 #1693 Posted January 17 1 minute ago, rh3000 said: Like that time they offered a lay-day to Oracle? I would hope that the days of very poor sportsmanship are behind us . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Alchemist 1,255 #1694 Posted January 17 LR tender attached to the bow tow rope. no signs of UK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horn Rock 1,316 #1695 Posted January 17 Looks like they've put a big wrap around it. Seems to indicate it has been damaged. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toad 687 #1696 Posted January 17 why offer builders, they are the competition. Its not a lovefest 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
