SailGP

[Priscilla 2,354]

NZ SailGP off to Christchurch.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/boating/124004616/christchurch-to-host-multimilliondollar-global-sailing-event

 

[Forourselves 1,170]

No event in Aussie. Does that mean no Aussie team?

[MaxHugen 796]

5 hours ago, Forourselves said:

No event in Aussie. Does that mean no Aussie team?

No, they are still in it. On the SailGP website:

" SailGP racing is being planned for the Australia/New Zealand region in the early part of 2022. "

[Flags 116]

10 minutes ago, MaxHugen said:

No, they are still in it. On the SailGP website:

" SailGP racing is being planned for the Australia/New Zealand region in the early part of 2022. "

Australia are one of the few teams to not have a sponsor. At the beginning of 2020 I was told that Russel would be OK swapping out the AUS team for an NZ team if the Aussies couldn't pay their way. But I haven't heard since if they have survived the Covid break?

[Ex-yachtie 1,568]

9 hours ago, Priscilla said:

NZ SailGP off to Christchurch.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/boating/124004616/christchurch-to-host-multimilliondollar-global-sailing-event

 

Grandstands on the Port Hills?

[TheUltimateSockPuppet 199]

3 hours ago, Flags said:

Australia are one of the few teams to not have a sponsor. At the beginning of 2020 I was told that Russel would be OK swapping out the AUS team for an NZ team if the Aussies couldn't pay their way. But I haven't heard since if they have survived the Covid break?

Both Aussie & kiwi teams for SailGP 2021/22 Lyttelton was likened to San Fransisco by Sir Russell in his press statement

[Ex-yachtie 1,568]

30 minutes ago, TheUltimateSockPuppet said:

Both Aussie & kiwi teams for SailGP 2021/22 Lyttelton was likened to San Fransisco by Sir Russell in his press statement

Yip. Exactly the same. Except the bridge. 

[RobG 756]

4 hours ago, Flags said:

Australia are one of the few teams to not have a sponsor.

Maybe Clive is a prospect? Well cashed up, likes (stink) boats, happy to waste tens of millions on hopeless cases, in need of a PR coup. Might need to change the livery to overall canary yellow with a feint green pinstripe.

No event in Aus might be an issue though…

[TheUltimateSockPuppet 199]

13 hours ago, RobG said:

Maybe Clive is a prospect? Well cashed up, likes (stink) boats, happy to waste tens of millions on hopeless cases, in need of a PR coup. Might need to change the livery to overall canary yellow with a feint green pinstripe.

No event in Aus might be an issue though…

I understand the no event in Aus is only this season as there was an event at the beginning of the aborted Season 2 in Sydney and as this season is also being truncated by COVID one less event is planned than usual.

[TheUltimateSockPuppet 199]

13 hours ago, Ex-yachtie said:

Yip. Exactly the same. Except the bridge. 

Well I'm sure those ingenious kiwi's could build one!

[Stingray~ 1,419]

Looks from the schedule like AUS somewhere is still a possibility following the Christchurch event. 

[Rskiff 110]

On 1/21/2021 at 7:52 AM, Priscilla said:

NZ SailGP off to Christchurch.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/boating/124004616/christchurch-to-host-multimilliondollar-global-sailing-event

 

lower end of harbour, will be up further

 

[Priscilla 2,354]

Akaroa Harbour.

[TheUltimateSockPuppet 199]

2 hours ago, Priscilla said:

Akaroa Harbour.

Nice but that isn’t Lyttelton?

[Priscilla 2,354]

14 minutes ago, TheUltimateSockPuppet said:

Nice but that isn’t Lyttelton?

Hah was posted in response to Rskiff claiming Akaroa was Lyttleton  in error but wow going to be an interesting regatta in Lyttleton.

[Ex-yachtie 1,568]

9 hours ago, TheUltimateSockPuppet said:

Well I'm sure those ingenious kiwi's could build one!

Nothing some fancy on-screen graphics can’t fix. 

[Rskiff 110]

46 minutes ago, Priscilla said:

Hah was posted in response to Rskiff claiming Akaroa was Lyttleton  in error but wow going to be an interesting regatta in Lyttleton.

ha, can't you spell Lyttelton

[Jethrow 137]

The person that invented Lyttelton can't even spell Lyttelton!

[KiwiJoker 353]

8 hours ago, Rskiff said:

On 1/21/2021 at 7:52 AM, Priscilla said:

NZ SailGP off to Christchurch.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/boating/124004616/christchurch-to-host-multimilliondollar-global-sailing-event

 

lower end of harbour, will be up further

Sorry mate. You are sadly mistook.  This a heavily-distorted wide angle view of the innermost end of Lyttelton Harbour. Not 100 percent certain of my bearings but the bottom left end of the pix appears to show Governor's Bay which is widely recognized as the head of the harbour.  The longer inlet to the right is called Head of the Bay. The headlands of the harbour mouth are dimly visible in the morning mist at the top left of the pix. It has been a while but as I recall the water in the lower part of the photo is pretty thin, especially at low tide.

The port, which is the largest in the South Island, is located about half way down the harbour on its northern flank.. The harbour is a drowned volcano with precious little flat land on its rim. Likely best place for Rusty's shore side activities are the adjacent park areas at Corsair Bay and Cass Bay. Both are close to the commercial port and to the road and rail tunnels that provide quick access to the City of Christchurch. 

It is hard to sufficiently emphasise the minuscule size and quaint nature of Lyttleton Township, nestled into the hillside behind the commercial port.  Permanent residents, approx 3,000.  A couple of small hotels, a scattering of guest houses, restaurants and cafes. International visitors will stay in Christchurch and surrounds.  St Tropez it aint!  But a great locale for a TV-focused event.

[matto 1]

5 hours ago, KiwiJoker said:

The port, which is the largest in the South Island, is located about half way down the harbour on its northern flank.. The harbour is a drowned volcano with precious little flat land on its rim. Likely best place for Rusty's shore side activities are the adjacent park areas at Corsair Bay and Cass Bay. Both are close to the commercial port and to the road and rail tunnels that provide quick access to the City of Christchurch. 

 

Actually Naval Point (as indicated) will be the location of the shore facilities, adjacent to the Naval Point Club and Coastguard. Racing will be in the water off the port and shipping movements will cease during the racing.

[dullers 407]

On 1/21/2021 at 8:05 AM, TheUltimateSockPuppet said:

Both Aussie & kiwi teams for SailGP 2021/22 Lyttelton was likened to San Fransisco by Sir Russell in his press statement

It is uncanny. 

[Tornado-Cat 934]

Next 8 events.

https://sailgp.com/news/season-two-to-feature-eight-global-events/

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[Horn Rock 1,360]

^^^^ Quite an ambitious schedule I think, with the plague still hanging around. No Australian event?

[Xlot 846]

On 1/24/2021 at 1:38 AM, Horn Rock said:

^^^^ Quite an ambitious schedule I think, with the plague still hanging around. No Australian event?

Apart from the latest delivery delays, no way vaccines will get to herd immunity in Italy by early June

[southseasbill 112]

Wonder what the Christchurch City Council paid to get the Lyttelton event. They should be spending their money on fixing the water pipes as a first priority (still a lot of them leaking and haven't been repaired since the Earthquake).

[Sailbydate 2,592]

3 minutes ago, southseasbill said:

Wonder what the Christchurch City Council paid to get the Lyttelton event. They should be spending their money on fixing the water pipes as a first priority (still a lot of them leaking and haven't been repaired since the Earthquake).

Except tight water pipes aren't very entertaining, or generate much additional council revenue. ;-)

[rh3000 1,624]

29 minutes ago, Sailbydate said:

Except tight water pipes aren't very entertaining, or generate much additional council revenue. ;-)

 

[Stingray~ 1,419]

1 hour ago, Xlot said:

Apart from the latest delivery delays, no way vaccines will get to herd immunity in Italy by early June

OT but since I booked a frikkin pricey place for overlooking Piazza Navona for 5 weeks over October, am hoping Italy will be letting ‘health passport’ (vaccinated) people in by then.
 

Maybe similar accommodations will be granted to healthy sailors by June, which must surely be the agreement with Bermuda. 

[barfy 1,140]

Speaking of Mono Rail, should move this steaming pile of Shit thread to the multi hull thread again where it belongs cause the spite club has fo to do with the AC.

[barfy 1,140]

[Stingray~ 1,419]

10 hours ago, barfy said:

the spite club

That’s you, right? Good grief! 

[dogwithabone 6]

On 1/26/2021 at 12:33 PM, southseasbill said:

Wonder what the Christchurch City Council paid to get the Lyttelton event. They should be spending their money on fixing the water pipes as a first priority (still a lot of them leaking and haven't been repaired since the Earthquake).

Local papers suggest ChristchurchNZ paid around $600k - the bigger cost is going to be on CCC redeveloping Naval Point itself which is a bit of an eyesore. 

[Milli 65]

In case anyone missed this: https://sailgp.com/news/burling-and-tukes-nz-sailgp-team-unveiled/

 

[NZK 334]

New additions to the USA roster too;

https://www.sail-world.com/news/235086/US-SailGP-Team-unveils-strategic-roster-pickups

Dressler, Campbell and Sinclair joining JS after their AM duties are complete for the time being.... Looks like the original S&S boys have been given the flick.

[crashtack 164]

31 minutes ago, NZK said:

New additions to the USA roster too;

https://www.sail-world.com/news/235086/US-SailGP-Team-unveils-strategic-roster-pickups

Dressler, Campbell and Sinclair joining JS after their AM duties are complete for the time being.... Looks like the original S&S boys have been given the flick.

I guess Jimmy's conditions were that he gets to pick the team, but still interesting that he would kick canfield off - I guess jimmy doesn't have faith in his foiling abilities. Did TC even manage to race once before the musical chairs?

[NeedAClew 1,154]

https://www.newsobserver.com/sports/article249205840.html

Isn't Kyle going on the Ocean Race? One spot less bumping. 

[45Roller 162]

Serious viewer numbers mentioned here:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexandrakirkman/2021/02/25/the-ultimate-spring-break-2021-escape-an-exclusive-sailing-championship-in-beautiful-bermuda/?sh=33926c4a94d7

"... which attracted a worldwide audience of 1.8 billion during its inaugural 2019 season" 

I know it was talked about here before, but how did they get to this number? 

The most viewed video on their YT channel has 1 million views, and it's a trailer for the NYC round:

 

 

[Paddywackery 180]

17 minutes ago, 45Roller said:

Serious viewer numbers mentioned here:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexandrakirkman/2021/02/25/the-ultimate-spring-break-2021-escape-an-exclusive-sailing-championship-in-beautiful-bermuda/?sh=33926c4a94d7

"... which attracted a worldwide audience of 1.8 billion during its inaugural 2019 season" 

I know it was talked about here before, but how did they get to this number? 

The most viewed video on their YT channel has 1 million views, and it's a trailer for the NYC round:

 

 

Absolute nonsense numbers Roller, some knob with an abacus and an eye on a bonus.

[rh3000 1,624]

37 minutes ago, Paddywackery said:

Absolute nonsense numbers Roller, some knob with an abacus and an eye on a bonus.

They buy posts on FB, YT, IG and pay to put them in front of people... it doesn't take that much money to generate massive 'vanity' metrics... marketing depts all over do it...

[jaysper 660]

1 hour ago, rh3000 said:

They buy posts on FB, YT, IG and pay to put them in front of people... it doesn't take that much money to generate massive 'vanity' metrics... marketing depts all over do it...

The only way 1 Billion people will ever watch a yacht is if they manage to put one on Mars.

 

 

 

 

 

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Total bunk - Sail GP would be lucky at best to have 1 Billion impressions even if they counted it the bogus Facebook way of 3 seconds as an impression.  With just 6 boats and 4 days of sailing at 6 venues good luck. Sure a video had 1 million global views, one video, a view can be 3 seconds if scrolled over on Facebook. Facebook got reamed by advertisers when it was found that as low as 1.5 seconds was seen as an impression. 

Americas Cup 36 video live viewing was as low as 29,000 live daily.

Tour de France is 21 days of racing plus 2 days days lead up, two day lay day with coverage, 17 nations represented. I did a swag for this this for 2020 Tour last year numbers (up 21% from 2019) and  looked at 17 countries and extrapolated from there. This is one of the key data points I found (not mine) -  2.2 billion people had watched at least 20 consecutive minutes of coverage while 3.2 billion had watched at least one minute. These are the key baseline numbers to understand this - 20 and 1 minute. This is just for media on TV, does not include pirated online, or in person viewing. 

 

Here are the newest numbers for the world Cup:

https://www.statista.com/chart/16875/super-bowl-viewership-vs-world-cup-final/#:~:text=According to FIFA%2C the 2018,in over its 90 minutes.

 

 

 

[Sailbydate 2,592]

1 hour ago, jaysper said:

The only way 1 Billion people will ever watch a yacht is if they manage to put one on Mars.

Agreed. 35% of the world's population has never even seen an ocean, apparently. 

Far fewer of those who have dipped their toes into seawater, have any knowledge whatsoever, of a yacht.

SailGP might as well be held on Mars. No wait... water?

[Stingray~ 1,419]

To SailGP’s credit, in the USA they are on TV channels that are  popular in bars, like what the AC Bermuda and SF broadcasts were. Even a lot of non-sailors got hooked. 

[.......................... 193]

31 minutes ago, Stingray~ said:

To SailGP’s credit, in the USA they are on TV channels that are  popular in bars, like what the AC Bermuda and SF broadcasts were. Even a lot of non-sailors got hooked. 

Let’s be honest , what does “got hooked” mean? In business we focus on the next sale, they investigated further, sought out the next race to watch, bought gear, learned how to sail... what you described was captive audience . 

[Stingray~ 1,419]

12 minutes ago, .......................... said:

Let’s be honest , what does “got hooked” mean? In business we focus on the next sale, they investigated further, sought out the next race to watch, bought gear, learned how to sail... what you described was captive audience . 

No big deal but pubs in my area tend to have lots of TV’s and channels running. If you want an event turned up a touch for a table nearby that TV they will do that for you and after my expressions of interest with a few friends who joined in, it was typical for others to do the same for on other TV’s. In case it amuses anyone? At least half of the (yes, mostly sailing-and AC ignorant) watchers would root for NZ! 

[Varan 1,934]

1 hour ago, Stingray~ said:

To SailGP’s credit, in the USA they are on TV channels that are  popular in bars, like what the AC Bermuda and SF broadcasts were. Even a lot of non-sailors got hooked. 

What are these bars you speak of?

[accnick 299]

1 minute ago, Varan said:

What are these bars you speak of?

Places where people used to go to drink, laugh, and talk loudly.

I remember bars....

[Stingray~ 1,419]

9 minutes ago, accnick said:

Places where people used to go to drink, laugh, and talk loudly.

I remember bars....

Yep! Have not been into my favorite pub, or any of them, since March. Am so looking forward to jabs! 

[NeedAClew 1,154]

1 hour ago, Stingray~ said:

To SailGP’s credit, in the USA they are on TV channels that are  popular in bars, like what the AC Bermuda and SF broadcasts were. Even a lot of non-sailors got hooked. 

Except when people were irate their usual Rodeo or Monster Truck sporting events had been preempted., lol.

[NeedAClew 1,154]

1 minute ago, Stingray~ said:

Yep! Have not been into my favorite pub, or any of them, since March. Am so looking forward to jabs! 

Mr Clew stopped drinking during the pandemic. Now I am going to be stuck buying wine by the glass unless it's a place with half bottles. Gawd what if I stop too?

[Varan 1,934]

16 minutes ago, accnick said:

Places where people used to go to drink, laugh, and talk loudly.

I remember bars....

Ahh, the good old days...

[Stingray~ 1,419]

3 minutes ago, NeedAClew said:

Mr Clew stopped drinking during the pandemic. Now I am going to be stuck buying wine by the glass unless it's a place with half bottles. Gawd what if I stop too?

Since starting to order everything delivered, it’s a close call about if I will frequent my pub ever again. But I will give it a try, it’s been almost like a ‘church’ community for many-many years, there are good people, good memories, and good laughs. 

[accnick 299]

25 minutes ago, Stingray~ said:

Since starting to order everything delivered, it’s a close call about if I will frequent my pub ever again. But I will give it a try, it’s been almost like a ‘church’ community for many-many years, there are good people, good memories, and good laughs. 

Unfortunately, bars are probably the last place I will go in the near future.

Getting vaccinated is not an excuse for rash behavior.

[Sailbydate 2,592]

45 minutes ago, accnick said:

Unfortunately, bars are probably the last place I will go in the near future.

Getting vaccinated is not an excuse for rash behavior.

So the vacs give you a rash too? ;-)

[ExOmo 112]

4 hours ago, Stingray~ said:

To SailGP’s credit, in the USA they are on TV channels that are  popular in bars, like what the AC Bermuda and SF broadcasts were. Even a lot of non-sailors got hooked. 

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[NSP 196]

12 minutes ago, ExOmo said:

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I'll take "things that never happened" for $100

[Stingray~ 1,419]

On 2/26/2021 at 8:09 PM, ExOmo said:

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Yes, NBCSN is one of the channels that play on bar screens, alongside whoever is broadcasting sporting events. NBCSN was broadcasting the AC in SF and in Bermuda and yes it was cool. 
 

That channel appears headed towards broadcasting AC36 too but I won’t be in any pubs to gauge interest or drive friends into engagement, this time. They are currently open for 25% capacity but I don’t trust the ventilation, especially in the restrooms!  Most of us will get our jabs soon enough, yay. 

[NeedAClew 1,154]

Even with a jab or two, "toilet plume" is going to make me eye my fellow patrons and venues carefully for a long time. Restroom toilets never have lids. Plane lavs, I put the lid down to flush in case my glasses fall in but mostly it's up when I go in. 

I don't want to breathe anybody's plume. And airlines NEVER mention laws when they go on about their sponsored studies and surface cleaning,

[TwoRockKnock 17]

Not sure where to put this, but here seems as good a place as any. After AC35, I got into a heated set of conversations around the impact to Bermuda, and particularly kids sailing, and particularly lower income kids which in Bermuda are predominantly black kids. There was healthy amount of scepticism about any long term benefit. 

The Coutts sponsored "Endeavour" program has been putting sailing on the curricula of all public and private schools in Bermuda since the heady days of 2017. It's focussed around STEAM, so not strictly just sailing, but has nurtured some talented sailors who have continued sailing/racing at local clubs. Perhaps more important is the Maritime Springboard Program, which guides youngster towards maritime careers. 

From a recent article: The Endeavour Maritime Career Springboard Programme is a seven-week training initiative designed to benefit Bermudian youth ages 16 and older who are interested in the maritime industry by equipping them with the skills and training necessary to jumpstart their career. Forty-one Bermudian youth from across the Island have benefitted since the programme was piloted in 2018.

https://bernews.com/2021/02/fourth-cohort-of-endeavour-maritime-programme/#:~:text=%E2%80%9CThe%20Endeavour%20Maritime%20Career%20Springboard,necessary%20to%20jumpstart%20their%20career.

It's not just about learning to become coaches. Sail GP heads to Bermuda in May and is partnering with Endeavour. It's a success story and a real tangible benefit from AC35.

https://bernews.com/2021/03/sailgp-inspire-partner-endeavour-sailing/

[disclaimer: not involved in Endeavour in any way]

[Paddywackery 180]

Nice to hear that the local kids benefited in some way from the AC circus. Bermuda did a great job with the regatta.