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J24 Worlds on Port Phillip

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The first o/s visitors arrive at Sandringham Yacht Club for the J24 Nats. & Worlds, all part of Sail Melbourne.

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I'll post J24 stuff when I can during the event, on this thread. If you want weather information try this website, it is Fawkner Beacon at the North end of Port Phillip and is about a mile or so from the J24 course area:-

 

www.earthsci.unimelb.edu.au/~awatkins/fbeacon.html

 

Met. info at :- www.bom.gov.au

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JS, Looks like SIESTA faired ok in the container. Did it look alright coming out? Was the mast in there as well?

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Siesta just fitted in the container, maybe a slight mark on the starboard topsides that would probably polish out. Was on a special wheeled cradle made to hold the boat on an angle. There was no room for packing between hull & container side (or it fell out) Standard cradle and mast were also in container.

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Hi JS,

 

Thanks for letting us know that the weather mark is only a mile or so away from the race course. Is there any tide running in/out of the bay?

 

Tide range in Port Phillip is not much more than about 30 inches at springs, due to the bay being quite large & the entrance being very narrow. Tide floods up the west to centre of the bay towards Williamstown (north end of the bay) then down the east side and meets the flood about Beaumaris/Black Rock area. (check a map when u get here)

Tidal flow is probably less than 1 knot and is rarely noticable except in light airs. Where your course is likely to be, you can't get out of it, though you might find the interface between the north flowing flood and the south flowing (down the east side) flood. The ebb just drains away towards the entrance.

Has that got you totally confused? This area has been my backyard for about 50 years.

The regatta office will have a couple of online computors where you may access the Fawkner beacon info.

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Its officially summer in Melbourne when Johnny Saint turns up! He has been fronting up for a lot of years to help run regattas out of SYC when things get too darned hot in Queensland for his Victorian liking. Any sign of Gladys this year???

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Who dat? I've been here for a couple of weeks. It's too bloody hot up there, been northerlys since end of Sept. (most of the time)

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You all will have a great time out of Sandringham! Was there for the '99 14 Worlds. Great times had by all. Watch the 'short chop/ holes in the water' stuff.

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Results from Nat's???? Anyone have any daily scores???

Rochester NY REPRESENT!!! :angry:

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Results from Nat's???? Anyone have any daily scores???

Rochester NY REPRESENT!!! :angry:

 

 

Nationals start today, Mon 9th. I will post results when I can tonight Melbourne time. (UTC +11) or look on:- www.sailmelbourne.com.au

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The first o/s visitors arrive at Sandringham Yacht Club for the J24 Nats. & Worlds, all part of Sail Melbourne.

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Hey thats a pretty cool picture. Do you have any more like that?

 

I think that pic is even cooler than pics of J24s racing because there is tons of those.

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I haven,t any results to post but they can be got from the Sail Melb. website. I can tell you about the weather today. As usual the weather bureau got the date right but not much else. Wind at midday light northerly, then proceeded right round the clock at point 5 of a knot gusting 4. Finally settled at about 350 degrees at 8 to 15 knots. Then at about 1700 (roughly) came in at 25-30 gusting 35 from about 290 degrees. Caught a lot of J24 with no.1s going to windward. Flattened all the 49rs ( easy to do). Thats all, I need a beer.

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Day 2, J24 Aus Nats. 8-10 knots, 190 degrees. Race 2, 3 general recalls. Black flag start & 5 nailed. freshening breeze. Race 4, 2 I flag starts. Breeze 200 - 18 to 20 plus. Typical Port Phillip short steep seas

After 4 races:- Siesta Jap 11 points. Brain Cramp USA 19 points. Bruschetta, Brazil, 20 points. Death Star, AUS, 20 points. Code Violation AUS 23 points, Cerezo Jap, 34 points.

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How many races overall for Nats? Saw one throwout. oh yeah, GO MR. INGHAM!!!

 

Thanks, Skirts.

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The picture you show of Siesta looks like something Brain Cramp did a few years ago. Curt Barnes from Brain Cramp wrote a great article for the class magazine ( International J/24, Spring-Summer 2002, volume 44) on how to get all this accomplished. And no, it is not a perfect fit. One corner of the container requires a mild "tweaking." You might want to check with the US class magazine for Curts article.

Ask the crew of Siesta to bring their boat up to Rochester, NY for the North Americans in September! The class has given our NAs a second spot as a 2007 worlds qualifier and it can be anybody!

 

Go! Brain Cramp!!

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I do not know why, but Seista was lifted out after todays (Thurs) racing and mast dropped. It's a wet regatta. Don"t think regatta is over yet. Too busy on other courses (and in lost fathers tent) to find out why.

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It looks like there are 10 races scheduled, 2 for tomorrow. Any word on this Siesta rumour?

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It looks like there are 10 races scheduled, 2 for tomorrow. Any word on this Siesta rumour?

 

J24 Aust. Champs is over, 8 races.

 

1st. Bruschetta Brazil 23 points

2nd Siesta Japan 28 points

3rd Brain Cramp USA 40 points (countback, 2 X 1sts.)

4th Cerzo Japan 40 points

5th Death Star Aus. 48 points

 

Worlds, Invitation race on Sunday 15th.

First heat Monday 16th --- 3 races scheduled, 1st. at 1200.

Last day of racing, Friday 20th.

Series has 12 races scheduled

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I got it wrong! (I was given wrong info) 10 race series, which is now over. Bruschetta 1st on 30 points. Brain Cramp 2nd on 58 points. Fly Emerates Aus. 3rd on 70 points. Inmarsat, GBR, won last 2 races. If Brazilian crew are waiting on crew from VOR, it'll be a long wait. Big high south west of Aus.

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anyone know where there is an entries list?

 

Got a mate sailing a local chartered boat

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It looks like there are 10 races scheduled, 2 for tomorrow. Any word on this Siesta rumour?

 

J24 Aust. Champs is over, 8 races.

 

1st. Bruschetta Brazil 23 points

2nd Siesta Japan 28 points

3rd Brain Cramp USA 40 points (countback, 2 X 1sts.)

4th Cerzo Japan 40 points

5th Death Star Aus. 48 points

 

Worlds, Invitation race on Sunday 15th.

First heat Monday 16th --- 3 races scheduled, 1st. at 1200.

Last day of racing, Friday 20th.

Series has 12 races scheduled

 

very well done bruschetta guys. world vice-champion in 2005, now champion in aus natl, prep to the 2006 worlds. maybe this is the brasilian year in j24. go bruschetta.

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Prediction for the J24 Worlds:

Brazilians in a close shave.....

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Sportscar,Chris If you wander down ,say g'day to the guys on Code Violation and check if they're wearing their sponsors shirts.

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Prediction for the J24 Worlds:

Brazilians in a close shave.....

 

 

I'll put my money on Mike Ingham, he's been on fire lately.

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from the front page

 

" I was able to watch the busy preparations and the Invitation race for the J24 Worlds out of Sandringham YC today. A perfect sailing day for the Js saw them get away in around 16-18 knots and it was immediately apparent that the boat that won last weeks pre-worlds regatta (Aussie Champs) ”Bruschetta” from Brazil had speed to burn. They led closely around the course from a Japanese boat and a British boat until the last beat to the finish when they just seemed to put the pedal to the metal and romped away from the rest as the breeze increased to around 22 knots. It was notable that their boat seemed to pitch a lot less than the other Js and was remarkably steady in the notorious Port Phillip chop. “Bruschetta” is superbly prepared and expertly crewed and helmed and should be a hot favourite for the Worlds after today’s performance in what were typical Melbourne summer afternoon sea breeze conditions. "

 

 

what did i just say on post #33? go bruschetta!

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Sportscar,Chris If you wander down ,say g'day to the guys on Code Violation and check if they're wearing their sponsors shirts.

 

Hi Phil and HNY!

Will try to get down there again tomorrow but unfortunately I have to keep spinning the wheels of commerce at the moment. Pisses me right off with all this sailing action going on on my home pond and I can't get near it. Hoping to get out on a stinkboat to see the VO70s come in on Friday or Sat. Will take the trusty Camera with me cos, as they say, photos or it didn't happen!

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Thanks Chris,Tell Doug and Tony they need some more bullets=one is not enough.

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This is the Aussie boat chartered by Canadians skippered by Tadeusz Bartlewski. This happened in race 6, upwind in a SW sea breeze upwards from 22knt. They also had the misfortune of breaking their rudder off at the waterline while running with the "bag" in 30+ knots in race 8 today (wed18). Needless to say the now have 2 DNFs.

 

Bruschetta protested Inmarsat GBR, in race 6 under RRS 19.1.b and Inmarsat was disq.

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Race 7 & 8 were sailed in a SE 28 to 31 knots (I was on Deckadance, DK46, good instrumentation)

Race 7, Bruschetta was OCS on an I flag, returned and started stone motherless last! They got up to 6 or 7 at the finish. Others OCS that did not return, don't know who.

Finish of race 8 saw 3 overlapped at finish. Could be protests. 5 lodged for both races.

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Thanks for the updates Johnny.

 

Please keep it going.There's a few of our MHYC mates down there.

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Can someone clarify the actual wind speed? If you look at the notes next to the scoring for each race you never see more than 18 knots listed, but people keep claiming 20, or 28-31 for race 7 which the results show as: Wind Direction = 110 degrees Wind Speed = 14-16 knots Distance = 1.1m Waves = 1.0m http://sailmelbourne.com.au/raceresults/20...amps/07note.htm

 

Those photos look like it's not what the notes say and is indeed windier. What's with the race software discrepancy?

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Can someone clarify the actual wind speed? If you look at the notes next to the scoring for each race you never see more than 18 knots listed, but people keep claiming 20, or 28-31 for race 7 which the results show as: Wind Direction = 110 degrees Wind Speed = 14-16 knots Distance = 1.1m Waves = 1.0m http://sailmelbourne.com.au/raceresults/20...amps/07note.htm

 

Those photos look like it's not what the notes say and is indeed windier. What's with the race software discrepancy?

 

The committee boat probably is using a hand held wind speed instrument, about 7 feet off the water. We had wind gear at least 50 feet off the water. Race 7 started in about 22k & quickly kicked up to 27-28, gusting to 31k that I saw.

Results are phoned ashore, if results office didn't get a wind speed they may have looked out the window and guessed. A SE at SYC is offshore and it never looks like it is blowing as hard as it really is.

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Johnny, you're a saint, thanks. It sure looked to be blowing in your pic. Have anymore of them?

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Johnny, you're a saint, thanks. It sure looked to be blowing in your pic. Have anymore of them?

 

A couple at the leeward mark, it's a gate, race 8.

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Way to go Brain Cramp! Impressive day with two bullets in Race 9 and 10... big push from 8th to 4th... and looking sharp too!

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Way to go Brain Cramp! Impressive day with two bullets in Race 9 and 10... big push from 8th to 4th... and looking sharp too!

 

still 31points behind bruschetta. :P

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Carbon pole, matching kit...

 

It ain't the Brain Cramp of old but damn... Two bullets!

 

Good day for Rex too. Go Rex - finish strong.

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The Brazilians are looking damn impressive these days. Can you say quick?!? Hopefully the Crampers can close a bit more, but barring disaster I'd say it's pretty much a lock.

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Last day of racing. Current wind (@0630 local) a very warm Northerly average about 30 gusting 39. Flat water and hot, thin air. Look on this website, Fawkner beacon, is a mile or so from the course:- http://www.earthsci.unimelb.edu.au/~awatkins/fbeacon.html

 

It's gonna be a hot day 35+ but good chance the Northerly could fade before a sea breeze (SW). Thunderstorms forecast all day. One happening now near Melbourne.

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Way to go Brain Cramp! Impressive day with two bullets in Race 9 and 10... big push from 8th to 4th... and looking sharp too!

 

 

F-ing awesome!!! Go Crampers!!!!!!!!!!!

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Racing Postponed 1 hour. It's honking! 30+ gusting to 40. Forecast to ease ahead of a sea breeze, but I'm not sure about that. May be too late to get a race in. Now 25 minutes past scheduled start time.

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news just in...verbal confirmation of over 40 knots...more like 45!!!!!!!!

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Thank you kindly Mr. saint for the updates; been a little busy this week & you have been wonderful.

 

Mr. Phil~ There are J/24's at MHYC?

 

Peace & Cupcakes~

 

~Skirts

 

Go Team Brain Cramp~! Something about those Red Chucks on the bow of a J/24... Rock-N-Roll Mr. Ingham!

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news just in...verbal confirmation of over 40 knots...more like 45!!!!!!!!

 

Postponed for further hour. If AP comes down at 1300, can't start before 1350. Can't start after 1600 on the last day (in the SI's)

It's still honking, Northerly. Volvo boats will get some of this, their course from Cape Otway is about NNE.

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Racing abandoned. It's all over. Results stand as at the end of race 10.

Hoisting of N over A produced a big cheer and a rush for the "lost fathers tent"

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Skirts,yeah reasonable fleet of J24s at MHYC,including Doug McGain,John Crawford,and Alstair Morrison.

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Skirts,yeah reasonable fleet of J24s at MHYC,including Doug McGain,John Crawford,and Alstair Morrison.

 

Cool Beans, that is lovely; thank you Mr. Phil. It looks like your local boys had a good showing in Melbourne. Good for them.

 

And thank you again Johnnysaint; bummed I wasn't there so it was rock'n to check your embedded reporting.

 

Peace & Cupcakes to all~

Skirts.

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