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and sailed nicely at balmain twilight last week . looking good .

 

the boat seems quick enough to race some larger boats without too much trouble

 

FORTUNE of WAR (#64) had a good night last Friday (RANSA twilights). 10 knots of breeze, 5 crew and we followed a Farr 40 (Panther) around the top mark and were overtaken by a Lyons 50 and one of the Sydney 38's on the return, but won with a margin on handicap of 3 minutes 8 seconds. Can't wait to see my handicap for this week! Racing in CYCA Twilight on Wednesday but forecast not good. In the light air the FT really flies!

 

Still trying to tame her in the big afternoon sea-breezes which are common here at this time of year. Rig has been tuned which has improved the situation greatly, and backstay shortned again.

 

Adrian East Sydney

FORTNE of WAR

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and sailed nicely at balmain twilight last week . looking good .

 

the boat seems quick enough to race some larger boats without too much trouble

 

Early days, but we felt she showed us her potential. We were not in 'race trim'... the outhaul and backstay need attention, jib halyard slipping and the rig was loose (delivery run up the coast - that day). We were a bit ugly on the beats, but off the breeze she seemed to have the legs to hang with the Mumm and 11:MOD....

 

We're smiling!

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FORTUNE of WAR (#64) had a good night last Friday (RANSA twilights). 10 knots of breeze, 5 crew and we followed a Farr 40 (Panther) around the top mark and were overtaken by a Lyons 50 and one of the Sydney 38's on the return, but won with a margin on handicap of 3 minutes 8 seconds. Can't wait to see my handicap for this week! Racing in CYCA Twilight on Wednesday but forecast not good. In the light air the FT really flies!

 

Still trying to tame her in the big afternoon sea-breezes which are common here at this time of year. Rig has been tuned which has improved the situation greatly, and backstay shortned again.

 

Adrian East Sydney

FORTNE of WAR

 

Good job Adrian. Way to go!

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what's the length of the thing ? Should I get a 6' bag or 7' ? Our boat is getting commissioned and I found some places online where I can order the bag, but they come in different lengths (I think there is only one surf shop in San Francisco and not really on my usual route, and I got a bad cold so I am not spending as much time as I would like at the yard)

 

-- thanks!

 

Blade is 8', get a bag 8' 6". Try to get one of those not too pointy, but with nice rounded edges. Check for those called travel bags, with handles and strap and thicker padding.

 

Cazza

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Seems the only? FT on Port Phillip is entered in the "Cock of the Bay" a 30 mile race from Melbourne to Portsea that kicks of the subsequent ocean races (MTL & MTH)

 

http://www.orcv.org.au/index.php?option=co...64&Itemid=1

 

107 entries this year and plenty of competition at this size including Sydney 36's, Radford Sprint, Sydney 38's, RP 36 and a T 980.

 

Forecast for Boxing Day is light with afternoon sea breeze.

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Seems the only? FT on Port Phillip is entered in the "Cock of the Bay" a 30 mile race from Melbourne to Portsea that kicks of the subsequent ocean races (MTL & MTH)

 

http://www.orcv.org.au/index.php?option=co...64&Itemid=1

 

107 entries this year and plenty of competition at this size including Sydney 36's, Radford Sprint, Sydney 38's, RP 36 and a T 980.

 

Forecast for Boxing Day is light with afternoon sea breeze.

 

Good Luck!! :ph34r:

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Seems as "YA Man" did pretty well.

Up there on line in quite a long and frustrating race, beating the T 980 to boot.

Well done.

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Townsville No. 55 FERAL!!!!!

 

Very nice. And one of #66 Balmain Tiger on the way to the finish of the Australia Day Regatta in Sydney...

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Very nice. And one of #66 Balmain Tiger on the way to the finish of the Australia Day Regatta in Sydney...

 

 

...and result was...

 

as good as the photo ?

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Very nice. And one of #66 Balmain Tiger on the way to the finish of the Australia Day Regatta in Sydney...

 

Interesting... twings and a spin pole (on deck). Did you rig for a Sym kite option? Do you really need the twing with the Asym?

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Interesting... twings and a spin pole (on deck). Did you rig for a Sym kite option? Do you really need the twing with the Asym?

 

Ah, now I was expecting at least one of those two questions. First of all the spin pole laying on the foredeck is for No Extras - Twilights... for poling out the jib. We usually hide it for serious racing. Yes it's an ugly old thing off our previous boat. We'll organise a sexy black number when we've finished spending money on more important stuff. Could be there for a while then...

 

As for the twings (or as we call them... tweakers), yes we do find them useful, given the kite is an AP and has a wide range of wind angles. We understand there are a couple of schools of thought on this, but we find that when we sail deep (and deep is usually the fastest way to the leeward mark in anything under planning pressure) easing the sheet opens the leach and the kite loses power, so tweak on. Neil Pryde kindly puts telltales on the luff (not in the right spot, but still) so they understand that the assy is like a big jib... as you come off the wind and ease a jib sheet, the car has to go forward to keep the top of the sail working (as indicated by telltales). The assy doesn't have cars, of course, so pulling on the tweaker has a similar effect.

 

Proviso... this is a sports yacht, not a skiff or a sportsboat where the power to weight (quick to plane and desire to stay upright) tends to overcome subtleties of kite trimming.

 

Make sense?

 

Oh, and anyone reading this is Sydney who sails Super 30s..... this is all bullshit and is a waste of time and money and just isn't worth trying as it will get you into more trouble than it's worth....

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nice shot toolbox!

i hear all the crew are "ferals" too! ;):P

looking forward to how the boat really performs on the race track,the gun boat in townsville is "zoe" an older ims racer from the drawing board of SYDNEY yachts....super fast upwind (probably still one of the fastest 40 footers in australia upwind !)but rather slow downwind for its ilk! should also be good racing against you and avid on his Thomson T7

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So..

I'm watching the latest FT10 go in the drink yesterday.

Today he comes in to the harbour from Botany Bay.

 

Fer F..ks sake can someone Please give someone else a lesson on how to put sail numbers on a mainsail.

 

It looks shithouse!

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So..

I'm watching the latest FT10 go in the drink yesterday.

Today he comes in to the harbour from Botany Bay.

 

Fer F..ks sake can someone Please give someone else a lesson on how to put sail numbers on a mainsail.

 

It looks shithouse!

 

ditto the bloke with the Mumm30 from Middle Harbour...

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hey bryce did you run into a certain sydney 36 with the tiger one wags race?

he not very happy camper :unsure:

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Blade is 8', get a bag 8' 6". Try to get one of those not too pointy, but with nice rounded edges. Check for those called travel bags, with handles and strap and thicker padding.

 

Cazza

 

Cheap unpadded bag http://www.essentialsurf.com/ikorb.php?fun...;category_id=28

 

Great padded bag http://www.wavejammer.com/surf/brdbags/brdbags332.htm

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hey bryce did you run into a certain sydney 36 with the tiger one wags race?

he not very happy camper :unsure:

 

Not this little Tiger? What/where is a wags race?

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wednesday afternoon gentlemans sail ? sydney somewhere? just a rumour tis all, thats all i heard!could have been one of the other tigers? was only asking m8 not accussing :mellow::unsure:

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ditto the bloke with the Mumm30 from Middle Harbour...

 

It is a new main and we are talking to the sail maker about changing the numbers from blue to white at this very time.

 

Why would you put blue numbers on a carbon sail?

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wednesday afternoon gentlemans sail ? sydney somewhere? just a rumour tis all, thats all i heard!could have been one of the other tigers? was only asking m8 not accussing :mellow::unsure:

 

Nope.... don't usually race on Wednesdays. Did one Edwards race many weeks ago and I believe there was a Syd36CR out there. Didn't see them until some time after we'd finished and then only from a distance.

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So who is the new Flying Tiger in Mosman Bay (Sydney - Australia)?

 

 

"Flying B...." arrived last Saturday. Will be competing in RANSA Regatta this Sunday along with Balmain Tiger, Ophir and FORTUNE of WAR. Promises to be a BIG day. www.ransa.com.au

 

Another in the yard now being prepared for launch, and more on the way!

 

Adrian East Sydney

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"Flying B...." arrived last Saturday. Will be competing in RANSA Regatta this Sunday along with Balmain Tiger, Ophir and FORTUNE of WAR. Promises to be a BIG day. www.ransa.com.au

 

Another in the yard now being prepared for launch, and more on the way!

 

Adrian East Sydney

#64

 

 

Flying B going to do Audi as well ?

 

That would give you 6 FT10's.

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Flying B going to do Audi as well ?

 

That would give you 6 FT10's.

 

5 I think.... Fortune of War, Ophir, Flying Brandy, Sabre and Balmain Tiger. Sabre is being commissioned now, so is not a cert.

 

For RANSA Regatta you'd have to put your money on the FoW wouldn't you? Of course we'd expect their handicap to be much, much higher than the visitors due to local knowledge and the high calibre of the crew... but still!?

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So, five FT's vs five Mumm30's.

 

Anyone want to have a stab at who might come out on top in this battle of the 30-odd footers? Should be super racing. Almost 30 boats in that fleet now. Starts are going to be a lot of fun - but not if you are on a SB3...

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5 I think.... Fortune of War, Ophir, Flying Brandy, Sabre and Balmain Tiger. Sabre is being commissioned now, so is not a cert.

 

For RANSA Regatta you'd have to put your money on the FoW wouldn't you? Of course we'd expect their handicap to be much, much higher than the visitors due to local knowledge and the high calibre of the crew... but still!?

 

 

Bryce et al

 

I am hoping that the FTs will be similarly handicapped. As we have a handicap start, maybe there will only be 4 FTs on the line at the time. This would make it our first head to head! As there is no weight limit, we will have plenty of Cascade on board. Long range forecast for WSW at 15kt - unusual - so local knowledge won't help.

 

Adrian East Sydney

FORTUNE of WAR #64

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interesting, just picking some similar length boats

 

http://www.ransa.yachting.org.au/site/yach...esults%2008.xls

 

FT Ophir 2:28

Sydney 32 Razors Edge 2:34 (benchmark)

Hick 30 Diana 2:35 (benchmark)

Adams 10 2:41

FT #2 2:41

FT #3 " " +

 

not entirely comparable as h'cap starts staggered the boats on the course by near a 1/2 hour

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Adrian, Bryce, etc., please let us know how it went. Gybes, any links to photos?

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interesting, just picking some similar length boats

 

http://www.ransa.yachting.org.au/site/yach...esults%2008.xls

 

FT Ophir 2:28

Sydney 32 Razors Edge 2:34 (benchmark)

Hick 30 Diana 2:35 (benchmark)

Adams 10 2:41

FT #2 2:41

FT #3 " " +

 

not entirely comparable as h'cap starts staggered the boats on the course by near a 1/2 hour

 

Gybes... the FTs went off together and the elapsed prety much reflects sailing capability rather than the boats. First race for Flying Brandy (#79), first kite run for many on FoW (#64) and we broke a halyard (#66 - and I buggered up replacing it)... but... Ophir (#56) was closer to how we all should have gone. They sailed well (nice work guys!) and were the only crew all wearing the same shits and caps and we know how important that is to boat speed! The Syd 32 and Hick were Div 2 which had a slightley different (shorter) course.

 

Nice to see 4 Tigers back at RANSA though! No. 5 in the water this week, No, 6 just arrived in the country, No. 7 just ordered...

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Gybes... the FTs went off together and the elapsed prety much reflects sailing capability rather than the boats. First race for Flying Brandy (#79), first kite run for many on FoW (#64) and we broke a halyard (#66 - and I buggered up replacing it)... but... Ophir (#56) was closer to how we all should have gone. They sailed well (nice work guys!) and were the only crew all wearing the same shits and caps and we know how important that is to boat speed! The Syd 32 and Hick were Div 2 which had a slightley different (shorter) course.

 

Nice to see 4 Tigers back at RANSA though! No. 5 in the water this week, No, 6 just arrived in the country, No. 7 just ordered...

 

Bryce,

 

So how many will be at Audi?

 

The Sports 30 Div has been split into Sports Yachts and Sports Boats.

 

The Sports Yachts will be as follows,

 

2XCESS 8336 Peter Woodhead MHYC MUMM 30 NSW

 

ANITRA MAY 543 Adrian Walters MHYC Peter Cole NSW

 

ARROW 6544 Justin Graham JUSTIN Swarbrick JS9000 NSW NOTE; Arrow was “T-Boned” on Sat and will not be racing for a while.

 

AWARUA 7060 Dennis Thomas CYCA mumm 30 NSW

 

BALMAIN TIGER AUS66 Brian Wood BSC Flying Tiger 10 NSW

 

BITTER & TWISTED AUS6580 David Price DSC M30 NSW

 

DON'T TELL MUMM 6696 Garry Hobson RSYS Mumm 30 NSW

 

ECHOES R300 David Mundell RMYC CLUBMAN SUPER 30 NSW

 

FLYING BRANDY AUS79 Marco Tapia SASC Flying Tiger NSW

 

KRAKATOA 8383 Don Young SASC Young Super 30 NSW

 

MERLIN 8005 John Lehmann MHYC Austral Super 30 NSW

 

OPHIR AUS56 Bruce & Neil Tavener DSC/MHYC Flying Tiger 10 NSW

 

OPTIMUM AUS7151 Guy Stening RSYS M30 NSW

 

SABRE AUS74 Stuart Birdsall RANSA Fying Tiger 10 NSW

 

 

Should be a better fleet.

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Bryce,

 

So how many will be at Audi?

 

The Sports 30 Div has been split into Sports Yachts and Sports Boats.

 

The Sports Yachts will be as follows,

 

2XCESS 8336 Peter Woodhead MHYC MUMM 30 NSW

 

ANITRA MAY 543 Adrian Walters MHYC Peter Cole NSW

 

ARROW 6544 Justin Graham JUSTIN Swarbrick JS9000 NSW NOTE; Arrow was “T-Boned” on Sat and will not be racing for a while.

 

AWARUA 7060 Dennis Thomas CYCA mumm 30 NSW

 

BALMAIN TIGER AUS66 Brian Wood BSC Flying Tiger 10 NSW

 

BITTER & TWISTED AUS6580 David Price DSC M30 NSW

 

DON'T TELL MUMM 6696 Garry Hobson RSYS Mumm 30 NSW

 

ECHOES R300 David Mundell RMYC CLUBMAN SUPER 30 NSW

 

FLYING BRANDY AUS79 Marco Tapia SASC Flying Tiger NSW

 

KRAKATOA 8383 Don Young SASC Young Super 30 NSW

 

MERLIN 8005 John Lehmann MHYC Austral Super 30 NSW

 

OPHIR AUS56 Bruce & Neil Tavener DSC/MHYC Flying Tiger 10 NSW

 

OPTIMUM AUS7151 Guy Stening RSYS M30 NSW

 

SABRE AUS74 Stuart Birdsall RANSA Fying Tiger 10 NSW

Should be a better fleet.

 

Much more sensible. Was getting concerned about the speed bumps... So FTs for Audi... 3 definite (Ophir, Balmain Tiger and Flying Brandy). Sabre is due to get wet this Thursday so cannot be seen as a cert. Fortune of War was waiting to see how well his crew handled the kite in the RANSA Regatta yesterday and, um, well.... perhaps the splitting of the fleet into Sports Yachts will tempt them along. Adrian?

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Much more sensible. Was getting concerned about the speed bumps... So FTs for Audi... 3 definite (Ophir, Balmain Tiger and Flying Brandy). Sabre is due to get wet this Thursday so cannot be seen as a cert. Fortune of War was waiting to see how well his crew handled the kite in the RANSA Regatta yesterday and, um, well.... perhaps the splitting of the fleet into Sports Yachts will tempt them along. Adrian?

 

Thanks Bryce,

 

Any little shove you can give them would be appreciated. The more Sports Yachts the better. Philc

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Thanks Bryce,

 

Any little shove you can give them would be appreciated. The more Sports Yachts the better. Philc

 

 

On the RANSA.. the mid race 90 degree windshift did favor Ophir who had 99% of a leg with the kite while the others had to work for most/all of it. So the deltas were magnified compared to what would have normally happenned... though we just put that down to good luck follows good sailing :rolleyes:

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For all you Aussie Flying Tiger enthusiasts point your browser to the Geographe Bay Race Week results page at http://www.sportspage.com.au/yacht_clubs/g...lt_2008224-.htm for the Long Passage race held yesterday. Check out the YAH Race 3 results for Division 2 in which there are 2 Flying Tigers, Matador & New Tricks. That's right Strobe got a first. He wrote a little piece on the Freo Doctor website in the Race Week 2008 forum copied below -

 

Had our best day on the Tiger in the long passage race.

Second boat all day to Wild Side. 17m in front of us at the bottom mark then only beating us by 20min for the Race. The new Quantum A7 kite up the coast was our making leg for the Race. It would have been nice if the IRC fleet had of started 5 min in front instead they broke there start and got sent to the back of the fleet.

Looking forward to the night race. Not much wind but slowly building.

Will try and tack anyone intrested in an FT10m out for a sail before or after one of our races. Just drop bye and say G'Day.

Cheers

Michael

AUS 36

Matador

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Nice to see 4 Tigers back at RANSA though! No. 5 in the water this week, No, 6 just arrived in the country, No. 7 just ordered...

 

kinda

 

Diana stayed berthed to the bitter end enjoying the rooty-tooty boater-clad Jazz band, are FT blokes WoWsers & girls, or does Phil just like jazz and cheap drinks more ?

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kinda

 

Diana stayed berthed to the bitter end enjoying the rooty-tooty boater-clad Jazz band, are FT blokes WoWsers & girls, or does Phil just like jazz and cheap drinks more ?

 

Well, you got 3 out of 4.... half of the Balmain Tiger crew were girls, and Phil is partial to a bit of jazz and cheap drinks.

 

God! He didn't dance, did he!?

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For all you Aussie Flying Tiger enthusiasts point your browser to the Geographe Bay Race Week results page at http://www.sportspage.com.au/yacht_clubs/g...lt_2008224-.htm for the Long Passage race held yesterday. Check out the YAH Race 3 results for Division 2 in which there are 2 Flying Tigers, Matador & New Tricks. That's right Strobe got a first. He wrote a little piece on the Freo Doctor website in the Race Week 2008 forum copied below -

 

I will clear up a few things

 

Had our best day on the Tiger in the long passage race.

Second boat all day to Wild Side(Ingles 57) 17m in front of us at the bottom mark then only beating us by 20min for the Race. The new Quantum A7 kite up the coast was our making leg for the Race(The wind had droped to less then 5kn still making 3.5-4.5kn). It would have been nice if the IRC fleet had of started 5 min in front instead they broke there start and got sent to the back of the fleet(The fleet has a goon mix of boats we would have liked to have seen how many we would have court).

Looking forward to the night race. Not much wind but slowly building.

Will try and take anyone intrested in an FT10m out for a sail before or after one of our races. Just drop bye and say G'Day.

Cheers

Michael

AUS 36

Matador

 

 

Night race was a soilders coures with very little kite legs and windward in it. Harry on AUS 46 has had a good race as well last night. He has now set the rig up the same as ours and is show a lot more speed all round. We are still waiting for results to come up on the website.

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Well, you got 3 out of 4.... half of the Balmain Tiger crew were girls, and Phil is partial to a bit of jazz and cheap drinks.

 

God! He didn't dance, did he!?

 

Indeed, thanks Bryce for providing 3 delightful ladies for me to look at when I should have been trimming main.

 

:P

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Just out of interest can anyone tell me how many FT10's have been ordered and how many have been delivered?

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Well done Strobe, just few metres behind a 55ft Inglis in racing trim, we have banged her a couple of times on the river but she there she has her centreboad 1/2 up! That was a truly great race worthy and of a nomination to the to the 'Tiger Hall of Fame' . Best of luck for the rest of the regatta.

from Panthera.

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That was a truly great race worthy and of a nomination to the to the 'Tiger Hall of Fame' .

 

Fellas is damn hard to follow what you're doing down there... first of all you guys win too much, now even two races in one day. Second your damn officers never post the boat type in the results, and I get lost in between exotic names... third you rarely post a pointer and refer to races in cool australian slang that requires me digging for half an hour with google to get to the actual website... :P

 

On the good side my australian is getting better and I now understand most of what you write at first pass (except gybeset).

 

anyway, good to see you're having fun... now let me go and add something about this Long Passage thing...

 

Where's my pint?

Cazza

 

Philc: 80 delivered. Don't know how many order still pending.

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Philc: 80 delivered. Don't know how many order still pending.

 

 

I am taking a group of guys tomorrow morning before our race for a sail. Hope to see a few more Tigers coming West.

2 Windward returns in the arvo and Thur morning then a med passage on friday to finsh. Been a great learning curve for us on the Tiger as well as Harry (AUS 46). Would love to see more Tigers here next year.

 

Cazza will try and talk slower to help you guys out :P

 

Cheers

Strobe

AUS 36

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Fellas is damn hard to follow what you're doing down there... first of all you guys win too much, now even two races in one day. Second your damn officers never post the boat type in the results, and I get lost in between exotic names... third you rarely post a pointer and refer to races in cool australian slang that requires me digging for half an hour with google to get to the actual website... :P

 

On the good side my australian is getting better and I now understand most of what you write at first pass (except gybeset).

 

anyway, good to see you're having fun... now let me go and add something about this Long Passage thing...

 

Where's my pint?

Cazza

 

Philc: 80 delivered. Don't know how many order still pending.

 

you failed 'Strine 101, the English drink pints, ( choose Schooner, middy, pot, handle, pony, jug)

 

btw do you mean the 'long paddock' ?

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you failed 'Strine 101, the English drink pints, ( choose Schooner, middy, pot, handle, pony, jug)

 

btw do you mean the 'long paddock' ?

 

Aw, be kind to the Septic... he's having a fair dinkum go at the yabber...

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MHYC have the Mumm and FT giving the big melges time this weekend

 

someone should pick up a phone, quote last years winter's or sasc as evidence when they say 'dunno'

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MHYC have the Mumm and FT giving the big melges time this weekend

Say what? The little Melges sure, but that's got to be an error. Linky?

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Say what? The little Melges sure, but that's got to be an error. Linky?

 

 

PHS Spinnaker Sports 30 (Cat 7)

 

BOAT NAME SAIL NO SKIPPER FROM DESIGN STATE PHC DIV

 

2XCESS 8336 Peter Woodhead MHYC MUMM 30 NSW 1.105 1

ALLEGRETTO 4933 Colin Goldrick RSYS Custom NSW 0.931 2

ANITRA MAY 543 Adrian Walters MHYC Peter Cole NSW 1.104 1

ARROW 6544 Justin Graham JUSTIN Swarbrick JS9000 NSW 1.029 1

AWARUA 7060 Dennis Thomas CYCA mumm 30 NSW 1.029 1

BALMAIN TIGER AUS66 Brian Wood BSC Flying Tiger 10 NSW 1.083 1

BEWARE OF THE DOG 2501 Barry Crook BSC mungral 25 NSW 0.890 2

BITTER & TWISTED AUS6580 David Price DSC M30 NSW 1.078 1

DART VADER 3352 Mark Prince NCYC Dart SB3 NSW 1.030 2

DON'T TELL MUMM 6696 Garry Hobson RSYS Mumm 30 NSW 1.038 1

ECHOES R300 David Mundell RMYC CLUBMAN SUPER 30 NSW 1.046 1

FLY N BY 118 Richard Jarvis MHYC Elliott 780 NSW 0.965 2

FLYING BRANDY AUS79 Marco Tapia SASC Flying Tiger NSW 1.085 1

FROTH & BUBBLE R10 Nathan Smith SASC Young 780 NSW 1.034 2

GREEN MACHINE 3383 Sean O CYCA/MDSC Dart SB3 QLD 1.084 2

GREENGATE 14 Matthew Fisher CYC Magic 25 NSW 1.027 2

KOOKA SAILING SCHOOL 055 Murray Owen CYCA Murray 25 NSW 1.036 2

KRAKATOA 8383 Don Young SASC Young Super 30 NSW 1.032 1

MARTINI 6512 David Stitz CYCA Thompson 870 NSW 0.988 2

MELGES ASIA PACIFIC AUS668 Geoff Masters RPAYC Melges 32 NSW 1.096 1

MERLIN 8005 John Lehmann MHYC Austral Super 30 NSW 1.035 1

MOBYDICK 3356 Bill Dickson MDSC DART SB3 WA 1.066 2

OCEAN'S 11 3353 Kai Timm MDSC Dart SB3 QLD 1.090 2

OPHIR AUS56 Bruce & Neil Tavener DSC/MHYC Flying Tiger 10 NSW 1.103 1

OPTIMUM AUS7151 Guy Stening RSYS M30 NSW 1.127 1

RGYC 1 3382 Brendan Garner RGYC dart sb3 VIC 1.100 2

SABRE AUS74 Stuart Birdsall RANSA Fying Tiger 10 NSW 1.085 1

TEAM G.U.E. 7888 Chris Williams GSC thompson 7 NSW 1.091 2

THE BUSINESS AUS150 Heath Walters RPAYC Melges 32 NSW 1.124 2

WAGOP 3357 Mike McLean NQCYC sb3 QLD 1.018 2

YANDOO 6671 John Formosa CYCA MUMM 30 NSW 1.122 1

ZIP 7007 Bruce Hollis RPEYC THOMPSON 7 NSW 1.070 2

ZIPPIER 6311 Andrew Waugh RSYS THOMPSON 8 NSW 1.111 2

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PHS Spinnaker Sports 30 (Cat 7)

 

BOAT NAME SAIL NO SKIPPER FROM DESIGN STATE PHC DIV

 

2XCESS 8336 Peter Woodhead MHYC MUMM 30 NSW 1.105 1

ALLEGRETTO 4933 Colin Goldrick RSYS Custom NSW 0.931 2

ANITRA MAY 543 Adrian Walters MHYC Peter Cole NSW 1.104 1

ARROW 6544 Justin Graham JUSTIN Swarbrick JS9000 NSW 1.029 1

AWARUA 7060 Dennis Thomas CYCA mumm 30 NSW 1.029 1

BALMAIN TIGER AUS66 Brian Wood BSC Flying Tiger 10 NSW 1.083 1

BEWARE OF THE DOG 2501 Barry Crook BSC mungral 25 NSW 0.890 2

BITTER & TWISTED AUS6580 David Price DSC M30 NSW 1.078 1

DART VADER 3352 Mark Prince NCYC Dart SB3 NSW 1.030 2

DON'T TELL MUMM 6696 Garry Hobson RSYS Mumm 30 NSW 1.038 1

ECHOES R300 David Mundell RMYC CLUBMAN SUPER 30 NSW 1.046 1

FLY N BY 118 Richard Jarvis MHYC Elliott 780 NSW 0.965 2

FLYING BRANDY AUS79 Marco Tapia SASC Flying Tiger NSW 1.085 1

FROTH & BUBBLE R10 Nathan Smith SASC Young 780 NSW 1.034 2

GREEN MACHINE 3383 Sean O CYCA/MDSC Dart SB3 QLD 1.084 2

GREENGATE 14 Matthew Fisher CYC Magic 25 NSW 1.027 2

KOOKA SAILING SCHOOL 055 Murray Owen CYCA Murray 25 NSW 1.036 2

KRAKATOA 8383 Don Young SASC Young Super 30 NSW 1.032 1

MARTINI 6512 David Stitz CYCA Thompson 870 NSW 0.988 2

MELGES ASIA PACIFIC AUS668 Geoff Masters RPAYC Melges 32 NSW 1.096 1

MERLIN 8005 John Lehmann MHYC Austral Super 30 NSW 1.035 1

MOBYDICK 3356 Bill Dickson MDSC DART SB3 WA 1.066 2

OCEAN'S 11 3353 Kai Timm MDSC Dart SB3 QLD 1.090 2

OPHIR AUS56 Bruce & Neil Tavener DSC/MHYC Flying Tiger 10 NSW 1.103 1

OPTIMUM AUS7151 Guy Stening RSYS M30 NSW 1.127 1

RGYC 1 3382 Brendan Garner RGYC dart sb3 VIC 1.100 2

SABRE AUS74 Stuart Birdsall RANSA Fying Tiger 10 NSW 1.085 1

TEAM G.U.E. 7888 Chris Williams GSC thompson 7 NSW 1.091 2

THE BUSINESS AUS150 Heath Walters RPAYC Melges 32 NSW 1.124 2

WAGOP 3357 Mike McLean NQCYC sb3 QLD 1.018 2

YANDOO 6671 John Formosa CYCA MUMM 30 NSW 1.122 1

ZIP 7007 Bruce Hollis RPEYC THOMPSON 7 NSW 1.070 2

ZIPPIER 6311 Andrew Waugh RSYS THOMPSON 8 NSW 1.111 2

 

Whoever came up with those ratings for the SB3 must have their head up their ass - and the top listed MUMM 30 rated faster than a M32????????????

 

PHS Spinnaker Sports 30 (Cat 7)

 

BOAT NAME SAIL NO SKIPPER FROM DESIGN STATE PHC DIV

 

2XCESS 8336 Peter Woodhead MHYC MUMM 30 NSW 1.105 1

ALLEGRETTO 4933 Colin Goldrick RSYS Custom NSW 0.931 2

ANITRA MAY 543 Adrian Walters MHYC Peter Cole NSW 1.104 1

ARROW 6544 Justin Graham JUSTIN Swarbrick JS9000 NSW 1.029 1

AWARUA 7060 Dennis Thomas CYCA mumm 30 NSW 1.029 1

BALMAIN TIGER AUS66 Brian Wood BSC Flying Tiger 10 NSW 1.083 1

BEWARE OF THE DOG 2501 Barry Crook BSC mungral 25 NSW 0.890 2

BITTER & TWISTED AUS6580 David Price DSC M30 NSW 1.078 1

DART VADER 3352 Mark Prince NCYC Dart SB3 NSW 1.030 2

DON'T TELL MUMM 6696 Garry Hobson RSYS Mumm 30 NSW 1.038 1

ECHOES R300 David Mundell RMYC CLUBMAN SUPER 30 NSW 1.046 1

FLY N BY 118 Richard Jarvis MHYC Elliott 780 NSW 0.965 2

FLYING BRANDY AUS79 Marco Tapia SASC Flying Tiger NSW 1.085 1

FROTH & BUBBLE R10 Nathan Smith SASC Young 780 NSW 1.034 2

GREEN MACHINE 3383 Sean O CYCA/MDSC Dart SB3 QLD 1.084 2

GREENGATE 14 Matthew Fisher CYC Magic 25 NSW 1.027 2

KOOKA SAILING SCHOOL 055 Murray Owen CYCA Murray 25 NSW 1.036 2

KRAKATOA 8383 Don Young SASC Young Super 30 NSW 1.032 1

MARTINI 6512 David Stitz CYCA Thompson 870 NSW 0.988 2

MELGES ASIA PACIFIC AUS668 Geoff Masters RPAYC Melges 32 NSW 1.096 1

MERLIN 8005 John Lehmann MHYC Austral Super 30 NSW 1.035 1

MOBYDICK 3356 Bill Dickson MDSC DART SB3 WA 1.066 2

OCEAN'S 11 3353 Kai Timm MDSC Dart SB3 QLD 1.090 2

OPHIR AUS56 Bruce & Neil Tavener DSC/MHYC Flying Tiger 10 NSW 1.103 1

OPTIMUM AUS7151 Guy Stening RSYS M30 NSW 1.127 1

RGYC 1 3382 Brendan Garner RGYC dart sb3 VIC 1.100 2

SABRE AUS74 Stuart Birdsall RANSA Fying Tiger 10 NSW 1.085 1

TEAM G.U.E. 7888 Chris Williams GSC thompson 7 NSW 1.091 2

THE BUSINESS AUS150 Heath Walters RPAYC Melges 32 NSW 1.124 2

WAGOP 3357 Mike McLean NQCYC sb3 QLD 1.018 2

YANDOO 6671 John Formosa CYCA MUMM 30 NSW 1.122 1

ZIP 7007 Bruce Hollis RPEYC THOMPSON 7 NSW 1.070 2

ZIPPIER 6311 Andrew Waugh RSYS THOMPSON 8 NSW 1.111 2

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Both Melges now in Div 2

 

Has someone checked if the Melges Asia Pacific is an actual M32? I seem to recall 'The Business' was the only M32 here in Oz? I thought I remember seeing Asia Pacific as a M24. Which would explain the difference in handicaps. Could be wrong.

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Has someone checked if the Melges Asia Pacific is an actual M32? I seem to recall 'The Business' was the only M32 here in Oz? I thought I remember seeing Asia Pacific as a M24. Which would explain the difference in handicaps. Could be wrong.

 

I have confirmed that both are 32's as I thought the same as you.

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I have confirmed that both are 32's as I thought the same as you.

 

gets weirder by the minute!

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SABRE sailed into Sydney Harbor on friday evening just as the RANSA race was beginning. Great to have yet another Tiger in Sydney, and at our club. Another on the water on its way to Sydney, and another on order!

 

Audi regatta on this weekend with 4 Tigers n the line. I could not make it due work commitments. Looking jealously out the window now at 9-13 knot winds. About perfect!

 

Adrian East Sydney

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Sabre has a rattling good graphics job

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Sabre has a rattling good graphics job

 

Certainly does. 10/10 for balls to paint one up like that! And 15/10 for putting up the sails for the first time on Friday and taking the new baby out in 20+ to compete in the Audi. And let me tell you they got better and better over the weekend... until a Chinese D2 turnbuckle said enough's, enough.

 

So 4 Tigers in the Audi with the oldest just 3 months old. Lots to learn and a lot more perf to extract...

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Sabre has a rattling good graphics job

Show us some pics

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Show us some pipost-24286-1204958431_thumb.jpgcs

Hope the picture comes up on this post.

 

Sabre (#75) was launch on a very wet 28th February 2008. This occurred at Shell Point Marina on the southern shores of Botany Bay, south of Sydney. Those with a keen eye will notice the highly modified rudder! Final rig checks on Friday morning and pleasant ride up to Sydney. Fourteen plus knots with the delivery jib only.

 

The kite was launched for the first time on the way to the start line for the Audi Regatta on the Saturday.

 

What a fantastic yacht!

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Hope the picture comes up on this post.

 

Sabre (#75) was launch on a very wet 28th February 2008. This occurred at Shell Point Marina on the southern shores of Botany Bay, south of Sydney. Those with a keen eye will notice the highly modified rudder! Final rig checks on Friday morning and pleasant ride up to Sydney. Fourteen plus knots with the delivery jib only.

 

The kite was launched for the first time on the way to the start line for the Audi Regatta on the Saturday.

 

What a fantastic yacht!

Good going mates.How much wind for the 14knts? Thanks for the pics. great graphics. Yes they are great boats.

Have fun.

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any comments on the 'highly modified rudder'??

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any comments on the 'highly modified rudder'??

 

It's a special carbon fibre, shallow draw jobbie I'd say!?

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It's a special carbon fibre, shallow draw jobbie I'd say!?

 

And Sabre at play....

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For Fark sake. Can FT supply instructionc for puting sail numbers on. Some of the boats in Sydney are just bloody horrible!!! Its not that hard. Nice new boat, nice names on the side, sail numbers all over the place. Have some pride fella's.

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For Fark sake. Can FT supply instructionc for puting sail numbers on. Some of the boats in Sydney are just bloody horrible!!! Its not that hard. Nice new boat, nice names on the side, sail numbers all over the place. Have some pride fella's.

I know , look at my comment made some weeks ago.

 

Bloody terrible handi work. More than embarrasing when you see the pics.

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For Fark sake. Can FT supply instructionc for puting sail numbers on. Some of the boats in Sydney are just bloody horrible!!! Its not that hard. Nice new boat, nice names on the side, sail numbers all over the place. Have some pride fella's.

 

it must be a southern hemisphere thing... disorientation etc... the feet are up and who knows where the head is..

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For Fark sake. Can FT supply instructionc for puting sail numbers on. Some of the boats in Sydney are just bloody horrible!!! Its not that hard. Nice new boat, nice names on the side, sail numbers all over the place. Have some pride fella's.

 

What's that? Have some Pryde!!

NP_Sail_Numbers.pdf

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Not much from the oz fleet lately. Here's a shot of 55 Feral sailing off Townsville.

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OK... some news from Sydney. We are having our second NSW FT Class meeting next Monday eve. The International FT Assoc. has named us ‘Fleet 3’. Keg on the way!? We’re expecting 10 owners to turn up which includes 3 newbies.

 

We will discuss making ‘Fleet 3’ the representative of all Oz east coast FTs for the time being.

 

One new boat (#82) arrives 23rd of April (to sail out of RANSA) and the other two are just ordered. One of the two just ordered, will be making it’s way to Pittwater to join Tigress (#75), the other will be joining Balmain Tiger at Balmain Sailing Club.

 

Tigress was launched from the home of FT commissioning (as it seems it has become), Shell Point Marine, 3 weeks ago, sailed up to it's new home in Pittwater in a 25 knot southerly - and won it's first Twilight apparently. Owner very happy.

 

Shere Khan (#77) should get wet this Friday and will hopefully join Balmain Tiger, Sabre and Ophir in the Sportsboat/yacht Div of the Audi Winter Series this Sunday.

 

So that makes 10 for the Sydney/Pittwater area so far. Not bad considering the first Tiger was launched in November 2007, just 5 months ago.

 

20 by Christmas?

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OK... some news from Sydney. We are having our second NSW FT Class meeting next Monday eve. The International FT Assoc. has named us ‘Fleet 3’. Keg on the way!? We’re expecting 10 owners to turn up which includes 3 newbies.

 

We will discuss making ‘Fleet 3’ the representative of all Oz east coast FTs for the time being.

 

One new boat (#82) arrives 23rd of April (to sail out of RANSA) and the other two are just ordered. One of the two just ordered, will be making it’s way to Pittwater to join Tigress (#75), the other will be joining Balmain Tiger at Balmain Sailing Club.

 

Tigress was launched from the home of FT commissioning (as it seems it has become), Shell Point Marine, 3 weeks ago, sailed up to it's new home in Pittwater in a 25 knot southerly - and won it's first Twilight apparently. Owner very happy.

 

Shere Khan (#77) should get wet this Friday and will hopefully join Balmain Tiger, Sabre and Ophir in the Sportsboat/yacht Div of the Audi Winter Series this Sunday.

 

So that makes 10 for the Sydney/Pittwater area so far. Not bad considering the first Tiger was launched in November 2007, just 5 months ago.

 

20 by Christmas?

YOU ALL ARE GOING "BALLS TO THE WALL"! CONGRATS!

 

WE NEED YOUR HELP. BEFORE SHIPPING YOUR KEG WE NEED SOME IMPUT FROM YOU ALL AS TO THE GRAPHICS.

 

YOU DON'T WANT TO LEAVE IT TO US DO YOU?

 

POST SOME IDEAS PLEASE.

 

:ph34r:

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Saw *77 yesterday being finished, I hope that at the meeting, the newer boat owners are filled in on the problems of the older boats.

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Saw *77 yesterday being finished, I hope that at the meeting, the newer boat owners are filled in on the problems of the older boats.

 

Phil,

 

You bet. Given that all but one of Sydney Tigers has been commisioned at Shell Point Marine, you know that Bruce Gault at the yard now has a 'Standard FT Package' so they hit the water pretty much sorted. We share and enjoy!

 

Incidently, it is not as big a 'package' as you might suspect. More a recommended options list.

 

Time to upgrade Phil!?

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Congrats and many thanks to all on the Ft10m effort down under.

 

WE ARE GETTING READY TO SEND THE FIRST KEG DOWN UNDER.

 

ANY IDEAS WHAT TO PUT ON IT ART WISE?

 

:ph34r:

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WE ARE GETTING READY TO SEND THE FIRST KEG DOWN UNDER.

 

ANY IDEAS WHAT TO PUT ON IT ART WISE?

 

:ph34r:

 

 

Who cares!! It's WHAT IS INSIDE that counts!!!

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WE ARE GETTING READY TO SEND THE FIRST KEG DOWN UNDER.

 

ANY IDEAS WHAT TO PUT ON IT ART WISE?

 

:ph34r:

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Congrats and many thanks to all on the Ft10m effort down under.

 

"Shere Khan" being launched today and sailed to Sydney from Botany Bay (Captain Cook's landing place in 1770).

 

Should be racing tomorrow in the CYCA winter series on Sydney Harbour.

 

Congratulations Rod!

 

Adrian east Sydney

 

#64 FORTUNE of WAR

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"Shere Khan" being launched today and sailed to Sydney from Botany Bay (Captain Cook's landing place in 1770).

 

Should be racing tomorrow in the CYCA winter series on Sydney Harbour.

 

Congratulations Rod!

 

Adrian east Sydney

 

#64 FORTUNE of WAR

 

Be great to see Shere Khan in the Winter Series tomorrow! Suuper effort. But why no Fortune of War!?

 

All work and no play.....

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Shere Khan was out on the water and looking good. Considering she was only launched yesterday .. and the tweaks are still to be worked out .. I expect her to be topping Div E by the end of the season.

 

The paint job looks interesting from far away, but up close and coming atcha - looks really really good. Can't wait to see the crew shirts.

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I was sailing on a Syd 38 last Sunday and saw a lot of FT 10’s out there.

 

So let’s hear from the Sydney yachts, tell us what your yacht is like. Saw Shere Khan the new one, nice paint job but good luck on getting away with a premature start, that bow is going to stand out in the fleet.

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Was the paint job based on his bedspread cover ? :blink:

 

It's good to see the competition hotting up in the graphics stakes ;)

 

It's nice to see some variety and colour on the harbour

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I was sailing on a Syd 38 last Sunday and saw a lot of FT 10’s out there.

 

So let’s hear from the Sydney yachts, tell us what your yacht is like. Saw Shere Khan the new one, nice paint job but good luck on getting away with a premature start, that bow is going to stand out in the fleet.

 

4 Tigers in Sunday's race. All off at the same time. At some point during the race, each of the 4 led the others. 3 finished within 50 seconds of each other with the 4th only a minute so behind. Tigers were 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 7th in the Div.

 

Early days… we’re still learning, fiddling and all still using the delivery sails. And all wondering how you can you have this much fun for so little money!? With the strength of the $A, one could be racing in the Harbour, in a month or so, for around $A90K.

 

#82 arrives tomorrow and the factory is slipping #84 and #85 into containers marked ‘Sydney’ as we speak.

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4 Tigers in Sunday's race. All off at the same time. At some point during the race, each of the 4 led the others. 3 finished within 50 seconds of each other with the 4th only a minute so behind. Tigers were 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 7th in the Div.

 

Early days… we’re still learning, fiddling and all still using the delivery sails. And all wondering how you can you have this much fun for so little money!? With the strength of the $A, one could be racing in the Harbour, in a month or so, for around $A90K.

 

#82 arrives tomorrow and the factory is slipping #84 and #85 into containers marked ‘Sydney’ as we speak.

 

But my Afloat Magazine boasts of a cost landed of 74K. What are the extras?

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But my Afloat Magazine boasts of a cost landed of 74K. What are the extras?

 

The "net" boat is shipped the same world wide. It is ready to sail.

 

Extras would be motor, bottom paint, instruments, UV paint for mast, safety equipment, etc

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The "net" boat is shipped the same world wide. It is ready to sail.

 

Extras would be motor, bottom paint, instruments, UV paint for mast, safety equipment, etc

 

 

Then the price is not really "ready to sail" is it?

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Bryce:

Sounds like you have the beginnings of a strong fleet. Many thanks for the postings and Congrats again.

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Then the price is not really "ready to sail" is it?

Of course it is !

 

It would 'not really (be) "ready to sail" for someone (like you and moron with a bush?) who needed a motor.

 

'Nuff said.

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Dear George and Christian:

Could you please take your tiresome and boring shit fight to another thread.

I think the Australians have it figured out for themselves and would prefer to see this thread kept reserved for constructive commentary on the FT's.

By all signs they seem to be enjoying the boat.

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Really enjoying your boat Bob, and happy to help anyone to do likewise!

 

Just to clear up the price thing... the $A74K was the landed cost before commissioning. So that was our container, in Sydney and ready to be sent to yard, duty and GST paid in Nov 2007.

 

Today with a higher Tiger price and higher $A/$US (for the moment at least), that would be closer to $A78K. Add to that commissioning, motor, antifoul…. Maybe a couple ‘recommended options’ and you can go racing for $A90K, but I’d budget $95K and add a heavy air jib and some more new string…

 

And incidentally, after some 10 Sydney Tigers, the purchase/delivery/commissioning process is seamless and surprisingly painless.

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Of course it is !

 

It would 'not really (be) "ready to sail" for someone (like you and moron with a bush?) who needed a motor.

 

'Nuff said.

 

You really are a complete asshole - and a dumbfuck to boot.

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Could you please take your tiresome and boring shit fight to another thread.

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Bryce:

That's great.

Glad to hear the process was "painless". There are some here who continue to push the pain button in the hope that one day they will get a reaction.

As my Aussie Mom used to say "Don't winge." Or is it "whinge"?

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