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Race Day 1

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Morning boyz and girls...

 

Charleston woke up to a rather chilly morning but sunny day. Light breeze and calm seas are the order for the day. So far forecasts are for light today, 10-20 tomorrow and blowing stink Sunday. We'll see if it holds.

 

All boats are out to their respective courses. Clean is apparently going out with Tim Wilkes as we had some issues with boats this morning and had to swap rides.

 

We'll do our best to get you coverage ala KWRW. This time Clean and I swapped places. I'm on shore to provide support for the scorers on the RC boats and he's on the water reporting.

 

Will get more news as races start and we get info from the courses.

 

Stay tuned.

 

LZ

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From the water, winds are light at about 8 out of the south. Clean on the way out to one of the Offshore Courses.

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Hey Ed, aintcha supposed to be workin'?

 

We're out here now, on the North course, which is mostly PHRF stuff. A bunch of C & C type thingies just went round the top mark for the first race, the second class to the mark is the Tartan 10's, and we'll have mark roundings for you shortly. Mer's taking some pics, and we'll be getting them up as well.

 

Give us some leeway, we've got some teething issues but mostly it's sweet out here.

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T-10's to the top mark, Niquor box is about 20 BL's ahead of the rest of the fleet. second is 30718 third is 407. Luiz will help name them in a bit.

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T-10's to the top mark, Niquor box is about 20 BL's ahead of the rest of the fleet. second is 30718 third is 407. Luiz will help name them in a bit.

 

That would be the T-10 Pegasus (30718) followed by T-10 Velocity (407)

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Inshore Course start (Melges, etc) has been postponed. Lots of wholes, shifty and light. RC waiting for the winds to settle.

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PHRF F (J29s, J92, etc):

 

First Mark: Remedy (Don27), Cool Change, Rum Punch, Wrinkles (Olson30), True Blue, Radio Flyer (Tripp26)...

 

Clean is right now loading and processing photos and send will them up to me for posting.

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Hey Ed, aintcha supposed to be workin'?

 

We're out here now, on the North course, which is mostly PHRF stuff. A bunch of C & C type thingies just went round the top mark for the first race, the second class to the mark is the Tartan 10's, and we'll have mark roundings for you shortly. Mer's taking some pics, and we'll be getting them up as well.

 

Give us some leeway, we've got some teething issues but mostly it's sweet out here.

 

This is work!

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Who's leading in the PHRF "C"class w/ C&C 115, Bene 36.7,J35, J33 ?? Got some friends on the Grand Soleil.

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it's ridiculous that i am here in the office, reading about the racing that i see out my office window! Clean- don't worry about coming back in for me if you've got good stuff goin' on out there. thanks for the updates!

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PHRF F (J29s, J92, etc):

 

First Mark: Remedy (Don27), Cool Change, Rum Punch, Wrinkles (Olson30), True Blue, Radio Flyer (Tripp26)...

 

Clean is right now loading and processing photos and send will them up to me for posting.

 

Nice LZ, keep it coming!

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Decision TP52 rounded leeward mark and can't even see second boat around... so far ahead...

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Decision TP52 rounded leeward mark and can't even see second boat around... so far ahead...

 

 

HAHA!! The Southern boys.

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Inshore course still under postponement. Very very light breeze inshore...

 

South Course 2nd leeward mark - Decision, round ages ago followed by the Farr 36, Cracker (Ker), both Melges 32 rounding about a boat appart with 128 in the lead over 77, Sister Golden Hair and Yellow Jacket and the rest of the boats are still coming down to the mark.

 

Henderson just rounding in the middle of the 3 J120.

 

Starting times for Course C is posted and finish times for 1st race should be coming soon too - www.yachtscoring.com

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Mer - Come on we needs some picture's!

 

It's sunny and freezing up here in Chicago and we're all counting on you!

 

And I know, that you know, what kind of picture's we want.

 

 

TK

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Pics or it didn't happen....

 

jibeset

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Mer - Come on we needs some picture's!

 

It's sunny and freezing up here in Chicago and we're all counting on you!

 

And I know, that you know, what kind of picture's we want.

 

 

TK

 

 

Yes it is after all

 

"FRIDAY" :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The 13th :o

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

PIX - Pix

 

 

We want Pix !!!

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Pics are coming. Clean had to come in to pick some people up and is bringing me pics.

 

Matter fact, Mer just arrived here.

 

Time for pics.

 

LZ

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In the mean time, results for Circle 3 (Offoshore) are starting to come in...

 

LZ

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Sorry, guys - you know we're gonna have some issues at every regatta until we get dialled in. It's a good thing it happened today, as there ain't much breeze. I just got a report from the Farr 36, from SA'er doghouse - they took second behihnd decision (and they were relatively close - relatively), but the wind is dying offshore now. They had an unexpected NNE breeze of 8 or so that held for the first race, but now it's going away. I don't think seabreeze is going to beat it, but we'll see.

 

 

We're going over to the inshore course now to see if they're going to get a little racing in. They have been sittting around there, floating, for over 2 hours now.

 

Mer, HURRY UP - we've got to go get some gas babe!

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The North coure was fun to watch - a bunch of PHRF classes, including a non-spin class - there are two C & C's that we saw - the white one with the big SLAM sticker on her was kicking some ass, the red one not so much...

 

Rhumb Punch looked to be holding pretty tight with the J/92's, but the 92S was further back than all of 'em...operator error, I hope. Luiz, what's the link to the scrolling screen?

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We've only heard one tanker giving five blasts so far, so the CG is probably happy...

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Who's leading in the PHRF "C"class w/ C&C 115, Bene 36.7,J35, J33 ?? Got some friends on the Grand Soleil.

 

 

What boat? I never got the name. And what boat is Bob on do you know? a bene something I think.

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Got to give some love to Rick Hall, the local SeaRay/Boston Whaler dealer. He took us out to the ocean course in a new Whaler 27 with twin Mercs - they're weird for 4 strokes - in-line sixes with superchargers...very sweet motors, we were cruising at 55 knots no problem. We've just switched over to a SeaPro 21 to watch the inshore boats, which sound like they're getting ready for a start. Luiz, pics, bitch!

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Got to give some love to Rick Hall, the local SeaRay/Boston Whaler dealer. He took us out to the ocean course in a new Whaler 27 with twin Mercs - they're weird for 4 strokes - in-line sixes with superchargers...very sweet motors, we were cruising at 55 knots no problem. We've just switched over to a SeaPro 21 to watch the inshore boats, which sound like they're getting ready for a start. Luiz, pics, bitch!

 

 

Hey Clean don't you have a picture phone..... Post pics.....

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All the pics return this message:

 

> Board Message

 

Sorry, an error occurred. If you are unsure on how to use a feature, or don't know why you got this error message, try looking through the help files for more information.

The error returned was:

 

Sorry, but you do not have permission to use this feature. If you are not logged in, you may do so using the form below if available.

 

 

-w

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All the pics return this message:

 

> Board Message

 

Sorry, an error occurred. If you are unsure on how to use a feature, or don't know why you got this error message, try looking through the help files for more information.

The error returned was:

 

Sorry, but you do not have permission to use this feature. If you are not logged in, you may do so using the form below if available.

-w

 

 

I get the same message.

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That's interesting... I am posting the pictures, can see them on my screen and click on them with no error message...

 

Dawg, any thoughts?

 

LZ

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I'll keep posting the pics... maybe we can sort this out as we go...

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Not that you don't have your hands full, but I will lobby for some updates on the J-24 class (18 boats?). First CRW I have missed in 5 years - have some friends in that class. Thanks for the efforts!

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OK... I think I have figured out... And just talked to the Ed.

 

This is a new forum and there were some permissions set for us to test the forum before going live. I think there are some setting in this forum that needs to be adjusted.

 

Ed is calling Dawg and will work on it. I'll keep posting since I can see them. And you guys should be able to get them shortly.

 

LZ

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I can see 'em, but I think that Dawg's got to make a change...Ed's on it...

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OK... update on the J24, Melges, etc... Inshore Course... Breeze has finally arrived and they started their first race on that course.

 

No further updates at this time. I'm just looking out the window and can see them racing.

 

Clean I think is at that course so maybe he'll post some news on them shortly.

 

LZ

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Check out the results for the races so far - they're here: http://www.yachtscoring.com/event_results_...m?Race_Number=1

 

We are waiting for some douche in a grady-white to fill his tanks with apparently about ten thousand gallons - then we're off to catch the inshore guys, who are racing. Wind's clocked around to 200-210, blowing 8-10. Not sure what's going on offshore...

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I just changed a setting but before that I logged on as my regular member account (no special privilages) and was able to see all the photos.

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Here's one of the little schooners out to watch the racers:

 

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Pete, bosun on the sail trainer Westward serves the rigging with a mallet - C'mon, real marlinespike shit gets y'all going, doesn't it...

 

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LZ sorry but still no pic's.

 

they're workin' perfectly for me.

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I can't even believe how much fuel this dickhead is taking on...by the way, pete the bosun is single, girls. Get on it!

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I get the same message.

 

 

same here...or, uh....nevermind! keep 'em coming

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That's interesting... I am posting the pictures, can see them on my screen and click on them with no error message...

 

Dawg, any thoughts?

 

LZ

 

 

Working fine for me ...

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Alright y'all - race 1 in the Melges was a fun one - Reggie Fairchild and Ned Goss (OSA) went from 2nd to 6th to 2nd again. Bill Blank takes first. Shifty as hell though - Ned said "the last boat to round the leeward mark crossed half the fleet on the next beat."

 

 

Simon Strauss, with Jeff Madrugali on tactics - 9th....

 

We're here for the entire next race, and we'll have the good stuff. Much comfier in here than outside, short courses and lots of boats. Outside it was justt too spread out...

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Simon sys "good start, but got screwed by the current.'

 

Welcome to Charleston, I guess...

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No problem seeing the Pix

 

 

 

Photog hint:

 

Shoot "Wider"

 

Crop your photo later

 

 

takes time to learn

 

how to on the Fly

 

 

It will never get easy

 

If you keep trying enough, it will get better

 

eventualy you can make it look easy

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The 24s and J/80s and the REALLY slow PHRF boats are still finsihing, and the RC looks like they're getting ready to go into sequencce for the Melgi - we're on it.

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Gotcha, WOODY - Mer's borrowing Saltwater Cowboy's 75-300, can't get WIDE enough!

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Okay kiddies, 4 minutes to Melges start...Bill Carleton and his boys promised us they'd try for a port-tack pin end start...

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Hey CLEAN, can I get an update for USA500, Hollerbach's FU...thanks.

I'll keep an eye out. Nate never showed, and Bear was about 400 lbs. light as of last night, when he was looking for a giant gorilla.

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Start coming up - heavily starboard favored...

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OK, I'm back. Had to go setup the monitors with the results at the tent. Here's more of Mer's pics

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Alright, 568 gets the great start, that's Bill Blank, 450 just behind. Simon had a good one on 592 but had to tack away and had a slow tack, with 497 right next to him. Fu (500) had a hard one and got killed, they're way off to the right now. We're headed to the top mark...

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Bill Blank and Steve Kopf (with our pal and 470 olympian Michael Miller on tactics) are fighting for the lead right now, seems like more breeze here on the left but more current as well...

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I'll keep an eye out. Nate never showed, and Bear was about 400 lbs. light as of last night, when he was looking for a giant gorilla.

 

CLEAN, I had to work at the last minute. I fly in tonight and I'll be racing tomorrow. - Nate

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We'll have some pics shortly, and mark roundings...this is exciting! Two bottlenose dolphins just jumprd in front of us, and some fucking asshole just tore throught the fleet in a fishing boat, I mean TORE through it.

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Thanks Nate, lookin' forward to seeing you tomorrow. Bear clawed back a bunch, here are the top few at the top mark.

 

568

450

489

136

378

592

419

90

500

 

Everyone's headed right fo rpressure on the way down.

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Gotcha, WOODY - Mer's borrowing Saltwater Cowboy's 75-300, can't get WIDE enough!

 

Give it back ;)

 

Use the POS that came with the camera

 

She'll have no problem panning out

 

that camera takes a monster image

 

Zoom on the PC then crop, post

 

(Why am I telling these things ???)

 

I mean borrow a 100-400mm Lens and get in tight :o:lol::lol:

 

 

 

If you get to San Diego again

 

I'll give you a Sweet deal on a 28-200mm lens

 

much more what you need

 

(Till you are in command of your own photo boat)

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Any update on the J24s, this is the first race week day I missed since we started them back in the 90's

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Any update on the J24s, this is the first race week day I missed since we started them back in the 90's

 

They all sunk!!!

 

 

j/k... I really have no clue.

 

-w

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I'm loading a bunch of pics right now, will take a few, but we're going to chill at the top mark so we can get the roundings and action for the other boats on the course. This wind is really fluky, down about 3 or 4 now, and the wind has gone back to due South...

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They all sunk!!!

j/k... I really have no clue.

 

-w

 

 

No that ws in 2001 when we all got hit by a micro burst on the way in the jetties.

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CLEAN, if you get close enough to my guys at the end of the race, AND they are going to race again, could you let them know that they should be using the new BLACK reacher downwind, thanks man.....ehh, that might be too much to ask.

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Okay, J/24's are rounding - here are the numbers:

 

1) 3145 -

2) 2260 - Sling Blade

3) 2215- Sea Plane

4) 1600 - My Heine (which is good, cause that's what we're drinkin)

5) Cold Feet

6) 3004 - Classic

7) 443 - Plan B

8) 3492 - Footloose

9) 2349 - Latte

10) SHort bus - 3971

 

Collision amongst three boats after that, including 3785, who might've caused it all - (Loosey Goosey) but i didn't really witness it (in case someone was asking)

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CLEAN, if you get close enough to my guys at the end of the race, AND they are going to race again, could you let them know that they should be using the new BLACK reacher downwind, thanks man.....ehh, that might be too much to ask.

 

Outside assistance, Nate? B)

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melges' are back up, with a litttle shake up at the top

1) 450 - Spray, Lucas, just had a terrible hoist but they're in first,

2) Blur, Steve Kopf in second

3) Brilliant - Blank

The J/80's are mixed in here, with Outrageous in first, and with 829 and 840

 

Next Melges is

4) 136

5) 626 - Wireless

6) Team Gill

7) 274 Big Sky

8) 245 Riot Act

9) Fu is holding hard

10) 687 Fire Water

 

The rest of the J/80s are here, Angry Chameleon, then 173. Then the S2 7.9 is coming around too. It's sort of silly that the Melges are racing with these slow boats, but certainly make it more fun...

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I think this will be the last race of the day, but we're here for the finish. Sorry Nate, they're using the other kite...

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J/24 3145 is way out front again, I think that's Rossi Milev, but I could be VERy wrong - isn't J/24 Nationals this weekend?

 

Mer's camera battery just died. Good thing she took a hundred pictures in the last 30 minutes.

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Cowboy just called in, looks like Savasana got the first race, and Convexity the second in the 105s. I'm sure yachtscoring has them by now.

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Melges coming in for the finish now.

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Clean's a M24 Snob- We want to hear about Pegasus beating Liquor Box in the 2nd T-10 race.

 

Thank goodness LZ is keeping us to date with his website:

 

http://www.yachtscoring.com/event_results_cumulative.cfm

Eat me mofo - there are 21 of the little bastards, so it's fun to watch. I ain't no snob, but this 21 footer we're on ain't the best thing in the world for the offshore course. We'll get the stories later, count on it.

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What boat? I never got the name. And what boat is Bob on do you know? a bene something I think.

 

 

I think they are on Kalevala.

 

Bob is on a Benete 10r, not sure which one

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I'd bet an appropraite wad on positions being shuffled once the wind pipes-up.

 

Nice job Mer, Clean and LZ! Look forward to continuing coverage. If see any of the peeps from Rhumb Punch. I have one question; WTF over?

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Melges Finishes:

 

1) 450 - Spray

2) 489 - Blur

3) 568 - brilliant

4) 626 Wireless

5) 136 - Creative Juice (NICE!)

6) 245 Riot Act

7) 592 - Gill

8) 687 - Fire water

9) 497 - Marshmellow

10) 274 Big sky

 

Fu was a couple back, sorry Nate!

 

 

Looks like maybe one more race, but it's getting late. With sunday's forecast looking like minimum 25 knots and maybe more, I think they might really try to get in three here.

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Alright, they're going for three races. We've got to go drop someone off then we'll come back out to get you the info. Don't go away, ya junkies. Seriously, thanks for checking in here. If no one would watch, we wouldn't get to have so much fun.

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Just found out Anarchist Cap is on Decision. Nice job LZ, Clean(s), thanks for the coverage.

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Just found out Anarchist Cap is on Decision. Nice job LZ, Clean(s), thanks for the coverage.

 

Cap's a buddy of mine, too. Shouldn't be "too" difficult to well in that class, but Cap's renowned for some great clusterf*cks, on and off the water...

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LZ,

 

Nice work on the race scoring. It's almost live!!!

 

Clean,

 

Thanks again for the hard work and Mere too, great photos!! Any melges shots?

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That's interesting... I am posting the pictures, can see them on my screen and click on them with no error message...

 

Dawg, any thoughts?

 

LZ

 

 

I've got no problems with photos, embedded or stand alone.

 

Great job guys!

 

Cheers,

 

MikeR

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LZ,

 

Nice work on the race scoring. It's almost live!!!

 

Clean,

 

Thanks again for the hard work and Mere too, great photos!! Any melges shots?

Here come the Melges shots - we're back at Race HQ - boat issues again, couldn't get out there for race 3. Hang on for photos - they rock!

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Yay Chameleons!!!!

 

Cheers,

 

MikeR

 

 

Expecting 6" of SNOW on Sunday???

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The conditions really were pretty nice out there. At first, I was happy to not be racing - then we went inshore, the breeze filled in, and DAMN...

 

Anyways, here are some pics of the harbor course:

 

Thanks to my lovely wife, who thinks I'm an asshole right about now...

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The conditions really were pretty nice out there. At first, I was happy to not be racing - then we went inshore, the breeze filled in, and DAMN...

 

Anyways, here are some pics of the harbor course:

 

Thanks to my lovely wife, who thinks I'm an asshole right about now...

 

isn't she sure yet? or, how did she manage to find it out in so little time of marriage? :P

 

sorry, i couldn't help making the joke. you know how the saying goes...

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I just got a good report on the last J/24 start on the harbor course. It was an awesome start - the current was flooding hard, and the RC had an I-flag up. The wind picked up, and eight j/24s were over early. And as they waited for a General Recall...but wait, no general! All eight had to go back around the pin and re-start.

 

The melges had a huge pile-up at the top mark, same race. Current just screwing with everyone's heads - clean, no paint, but still good fun.

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Okay, pics from race 2, Harbor course, Melges start - the WHOLE start:

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Here's some of the first mark rounding. I know, I know - I'm a melges snob...

 

It's ok, Mer's got a ton more. Give me some time!

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Report from Hike, Bitches - he's on the phone as he's bringing the jib down.

 

 

Remedy (Donovan 27), had wheels today - Rhumb Punch (with HB) needs a little more, and no more OCS's (like race 3). HB says that Remedy is going to be tough- they make no mistakes (so far) and they 've got a fast boat. He just had to go and fold some sails.

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