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NyJboat

Manhasset Bay Fall

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Time to bust out that foul weather gear. Its always a great event with lots of breeze, just look at the pics from last year.

 

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So whos down?

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Its always a great event with lots of breeze

The kiss of death.

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Great regatta, I remember a number of years back we brought in a J39 in from Cleveland. Camped in the RV and the dinghy garages at the Manhassett YC, beautful place, there was this butler kinda guy following us around. I think he thought we were going to steal the furniture. One of the crew asks where to buy the t-shirts, butler guy replies: oh, t-shirts...... what a good idea.

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Great regatta, I remember a number of years back we brought in a J39 in from Cleveland. Camped in the RV and the dinghy garages at the Manhassett YC, beautful place, there was this butler kinda guy following us around. I think he thought we were going to steal the furniture. One of the crew asks where to buy the t-shirts, butler guy replies: oh, t-shirts...... what a good idea.

 

But they do have what counts - free beer and food. Great regatta, wouldnt miss it.

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But they do have what counts - free beer and food. Great regatta, wouldnt miss it.

Was a great regatta, just the commute was a bit of a pain.

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You betcha! Match racing Hustler two weekends in a row? Priceless. :ph34r:

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You betcha! Match racing Hustler two weekends in a row? Priceless. :ph34r:

You've got your goals set pretty high

You should get by Chaika before coming after us

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Got Kelp?

 

 

Like hiking over the rail at that point will help flaten her out?!?!!?!?!

 

Maybe she was looking for a dead body around the keel.

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You've got your goals set pretty high

You should get by Chaika before coming after us

 

Just call me "Team China". And don't forget... we have a hostage. :P

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Just call me "Team China". And don't forget... we have a hostage. :P

NICE!

It will be a fun time

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You've got your goals set pretty high

You should get by Chaika before coming after us

You're assuming Chaika will be in our zipcode.

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We'll be there wit our new 1/2 oz masthead kite.

Yeah dog, you go boiiii!

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We'll be there wit our new 1/2 oz masthead kite.

 

Guess your hoping for light air?

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Irish Coffees, Dark N' Stormy's, Bratworst and Krout...what else could you want from a regatta!!

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Irish Coffees, Dark N' Stormy's, Bratworst and Krout...what else could you want from a regatta!!

To bad your cleansing!

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Irish Coffees, Dark N' Stormy's, Bratworst and Krout...what else could you want from a regatta!!

 

Bloody Mary's to cure the hangover !

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To bad your cleansing!

 

 

I know! As long as you enjoy it then I'll be a happy sailor.

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Irish Coffees, Dark N' Stormy's, Bratworst and Krout...what else could you want from a regatta!!

 

Bloody Mary's to cure the hangover !

 

Nah, thats what the Heineken on the way out to the race course is for. Nothing like killing hangovers with more booze.

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Bloody Mary's to cure the hangover !

Nah, thats what the Heineken on the way out to the race course is for. Nothing like killing hangovers with more booze.

 

 

The Dogs like turing the LYC dock into a Bloody Mary drive-thu while waiting for the wind to fill in.

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Bloody Mary's to cure the hangover !

Nah, thats what the Heineken on the way out to the race course is for. Nothing like killing hangovers with more booze.

 

I love vitamin H in the morning!

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Heard DOPO got permission for sailing in Manhasset Bay Fall series written into his pre -nup.

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I just looked at the NOR--they intend (weather permitting) to send us around government marks (circa 1990) on either the first Sunday or the second Saturday of the series! Just like the old days--the "christmas tree" of red and green placards designating the marks to be rounded.

 

I haven't sailed races like that in years. Annapolis sailors take heed--"old school" racing coming to a venue near you

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I just looked at the NOR--they intend (weather permitting) to send us around government marks (circa 1990) on either the first Sunday or the second Saturday of the series! Just like the old days--the "christmas tree" of red and green placards designating the marks to be rounded.

 

I haven't sailed races like that in years. Annapolis sailors take heed--"old school" racing coming to a venue near you

I'll start checking EBay now for Starcut kites! :o:lol:

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I'll start checking EBay now for Starcut kites! :o:lol:

 

 

or the famous Butch Ulmer "Fat Cat"

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I just looked at the NOR--they intend (weather permitting) to send us around government marks (circa 1990) on either the first Sunday or the second Saturday of the series!

 

Even more interesting, when you register online they give the opportunity to vote on your preference regarding the gov't marks racing. The choices (paraphrased) are Yes, No and Whatever. Seriously.

 

Whatever.

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Even more interesting, when you register online they give the opportunity to vote on your preference regarding the gov't marks racing. The choices (paraphrased) are Yes, No and Whatever. Seriously.

 

Whatever.

 

 

so you voted for "whatever" right Todd??

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so you voted for "whatever" right Todd??

 

Was I that obvious? ;)

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Was I that obvious? ;)

 

 

I think that kind of course will be fun for a change---need to do a little navigating--read a chart. Maybe they will do a real "throwback" race and make us finish up the bay in front of the mooring field. We used to call Manhasset Bay itself the "equalizer"--no matter how big a lead you might have--everyone would bunch up in the bay and the race would start over again for the last 3/4 mile.

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Interesting about the govt marks thing, that should be a fun change of pace. One thing to note though, the first weekend is supposed to be the J-105 East Coast Championships - wonder how the fleet will react if one of those days is sailed around govt marks, or will the 105's be seperate? And please, lets not turn this into yet another 105 bashing thread - we get it, the boats are slow and underpowered, and we're all a bunch of hacks.

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It's a conspiracy, I say!

 

I'll bet John's "family" has "persuaded" the RC to re-introduce the steeplechase in order to take advantage of my well-documented inability to read/follow the posted course. :lol:

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Interesting about the govt marks thing, that should be a fun change of pace. One thing to note though, the first weekend is supposed to be the J-105 East Coast Championships - wonder how the fleet will react if one of those days is sailed around govt marks, or will the 105's be seperate? And please, lets not turn this into yet another 105 bashing thread - we get it, the boats are slow and underpowered, and we're all a bunch of hacks.

 

 

That is an interesting conundrum--I would think that if the J/105 sailors point that out--the government marks course will be sailed on the second Saturday. that will make everyone happy

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It's a conspiracy, I say!

 

I'll bet John's "family" has "persuaded" the RC to re-introduce the steeplechase in order to take advantage of my well-documented inability to read/follow the posted course. :lol:

 

 

you sound like Br'er Rabbit "Oh please dont throw me in the briar patch"

 

the J/92 is a reaching machine. You will destroy us if it turns into a reach fest

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I just looked at the NOR--they intend (weather permitting) to send us around government marks (circa 1990) on either the first Sunday or the second Saturday of the series! Just like the old days--the "christmas tree" of red and green placards designating the marks to be rounded.

 

I haven't sailed races like that in years. Annapolis sailors take heed--"old school" racing coming to a venue near you

It's actually been in the NORs for a couple of years, but hasn't been used.

 

If you get an attachment assigning Gov't marks letters, then the RC is serious.

 

Looks like the 105's will have their own circle the first weekend.

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I'll start checking EBay now for Starcut kites! :o:lol:

We have one the red gray and white

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We have one the red gray and white

 

That sail looks like an ass!

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That sail looks like an ass!

 

 

MUST... NOT... TAKE... THE... BAIT! arghhhhh

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Question to PHRF 70 - 90 boats,

 

Are you racing IRC or PHRF?

 

I'm surprised they are allowing both, that could lead to some interesting divisions.

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you sound like Br'er Rabbit "Oh please dont throw me in the briar patch"

 

the J/92 is a reaching machine. You will destroy us if it turns into a reach fest

You are assuming he will be reaching towards the correct mark! ;)

 

Any word on a scratch sheet, division splits? Anyone?

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Good luck Will,

 

Better luck to your lady.

 

Sail Safe!

Thanks. Will you be up?

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That sail looks like an ass!

WTF if you dont like the sail DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!

You havn't bought a sail in over a year.

There's an empty spot in our quiver!

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WTF if you dont like the sail DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!

You havn't bought a sail in over a year.

There's an empty spot in our quiver!

 

 

sure--as soon as we race in a real one-design regatta. I will buy sails as soon as the J/29 NA's are about to start.

 

I guess as long as RP can hold off a Championship--I can hold off buying new sails. (as if we need them to race PHRF!!)

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sure--as soon as we race in a real one-design regatta. I will buy sails as soon as the J/29 NA's are about to start.

 

I guess as long as RP can hold off a Championship--I can hold off buying new sails. (as if we need them to race PHRF!!)

I guess we will be holding on to our current inventory for quite a while then! That trophy won't be coming off the mantle any time soon.

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I guess we will be holding on to our current inventory for quite a while then! That trophy won't be coming off the mantle any time soon.

 

 

I agree--it really sickens me. When we had the trophy for 4 straight years--the thought of not having a NA regatta was the end of the world! Now that it is, once again, in the hands of Chesapeake Bay sailors--we will never compete for it again. WTF???

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sure--as soon as we race in a real one-design regatta. I will buy sails as soon as the J/29 NA's are about to start.

 

I guess as long as RP can hold off a Championship--I can hold off buying new sails. (as if we need them to race PHRF!!)

Killing Me

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I agree--it really sickens me. When we had the trophy for 4 straight years--the thought of not having a NA regatta was the end of the world! Now that it is, once again, in the hands of Chesapeake Bay sailors--we will never compete for it again. WTF???

Let them keep it, there really is nothing else to prove against the southern boats. Time to head up to Canadia!

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Let them keep it, there really is nothing else to prove against the southern boats. Time to head up to Canadia!

 

 

I think that's a great idea. What concerns me is that the J/29 class has no leadership at all. I have no idea if Bob Wardwell is alive or dead--no one has heard from him since Oxford Md. Is he still president?--If he is, why has no one been in touch with him about a NA's in Nova Scotia--or anywhere???!!!

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Time for a new boat.

Let us race yours!

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Let us race yours!

 

No, get your own and show us what a bunch of hacks we all are. :P

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Let us race yours!

THAT is an interesting idea...

JD, how about having HUSTLER aboard as guest crew?

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THAT is an interesting idea...

JD, how about having HUSTLER aboard as guest crew?

 

 

Maybe for something next year. Wonder if I would be allowed on board?

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Maybe for something next year. Wonder if I would be allowed on board?

of course... some one needs to pass up the yachting beverges...

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of course... some one needs to pass up the yachting beverges...

 

That and twings upwind.

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of course... some one needs to pass up the yachting beverges...

No we just need him to drop off the food and bev in the morning and come back and clean up the the afternoon. Something like a BN

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and clean up the the afternoon.

 

And a little glass work as well, right?

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And a little glass work as well, right?

That's always a possibility

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And a little glass work as well, right?

It depends. What color would you like the boat painted? :o:lol:

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I think that's a great idea. What concerns me is that the J/29 class has no leadership at all. I have no idea if Bob Wardwell is alive or dead--no one has heard from him since Oxford Md. Is he still president?--If he is, why has no one been in touch with him about a NA's in Nova Scotia--or anywhere???!!!

 

Pitman for President?

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four J109s entered. What a bunch of pussies. they're probably all under tarps already and it's 80 degrees.

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Scratch Sheet

 

I'm going to move to IRC.

JD scratch boat and Espo & Random Sailor at the other end of that class (class 6) ...

should have some good stories come monday...

come on JD, stay put and show Hustler & Thin Man what Tenacious is made of...

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Scratch Sheet

 

I'm going to move to IRC.

 

You honestly think you'll do better in IRC??? That would move you to Div 3 which includes a lot of well sailed boats. I think you have a far better shot as the fast boat in Div 6, especially if it is light-med. breeze with your new masthead kite.

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You honestly think you'll do better in IRC??? That would move you to Div 3 which includes a lot of well sailed boats. I think you have a far better shot as the fast boat in Div 6, especially if it is light-med. breeze with your new masthead kite.

 

 

Sailflow is saying 10-15 kts.

temps around 60

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in my last experience of 36.7 against hustler was that hustler can kick your ass boat for boat. they will sail lower and faster and come out of the tacks faster. you can bring that crew on your boat and then write lengthy international accolade letters to the world, thanking hustler for helping you dominate the regatta. do it!

 

s.

 

ps, but back then i think hustler had shiny new rags

Solo,

 

Will you be doing a guest appearance on Hustler this regatta?

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four J109s entered. What a bunch of pussies. they're probably all under tarps already and it's 80 degrees.

yeah, that... or on their way across the country for north americans.

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yeah, that... or on their way across the country for north americans.

i'd NEVER agree w/ LI punk kid, but the entry list for J109 NAs in Long Beach as of 10/5 was 7 (yes Seven) boats.

i think the only real travel boat is Vitesse

10/19 is the deadline...

no East Coast boats on the scratch sheet yet...

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i'd NEVER agree w/ LI punk kid, but the entry list for J109 NAs in Long Beach as of 10/5 was 7 (yes Seven) boats.

i think the only real travel boat is Vitesse

10/19 is the deadline...

no East Coast boats on the scratch sheet yet...

Chicken is already packed up and heading out west for the event.

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Chicken is already packed up and heading out west for the event.

hey Gonzo, are you riding the Chicken for NAs?

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i'd NEVER agree w/ LI punk kid, but the entry list for J109 NAs in Long Beach as of 10/5 was 7 (yes Seven) boats.

i think the only real travel boat is Vitesse

10/19 is the deadline...

no East Coast boats on the scratch sheet yet...

 

Exactly Rummy.

Maybe there are some more going on their own bottoms thru the Canal.

I didnt see any on the highway this morning.

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Exactly Rummy.

Maybe there are some more going on their own bottoms thru the Canal.

I didnt see any on the highway this morning.

Hey LIS,

dont let someone agreeing with you indicate that they actually like you or find you Knowledgeable. Because everyone on here does not.

 

Your still an asshat!!!!!

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Hey LIS,

dont let someone agreeing with you indicate that they actually like you or find you Knowledgeable. Because everyone on here does not.

 

Your still an asshat!!!!!

Hey,

I like him!

And that's all that matters

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You honestly think you'll do better in IRC???

 

Nope, just think it will be more fun (read I'm a glutton for punishment).

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Hey,

I like him!

And that's all that matters

does it now ESPO????

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Nope, just think it will be more fun (read I'm a glutton for punishment).

Chicken!

 

There are more excuses being the bottom boat in the division than being the scratch boat. :P

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Chicken!

 

There are more excuses being the bottom boat in the division than being the scratch boat. :P

 

Hey you are welcome to sail IRC as well. :o

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yeah, that... or on their way across the country for north americans.

 

 

Well played, Bowboy. Remarkable restraint.

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i'd NEVER agree w/ LI punk kid, but the entry list for J109 NAs in Long Beach as of 10/5 was 7 (yes Seven) boats.

i think the only real travel boat is Vitesse

10/19 is the deadline...

no East Coast boats on the scratch sheet yet...

 

 

We don't believe in preregistering...gives up the element of surprise.

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Hey you are welcome to sail IRC as well. :o

That decision is above my pay grade. ;)

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Where in your pointy head is there a little voice that told you i give a shit about wether you or some of the old decrepit shitbags that hang out here like me?

 

Two asshatas can agree on one thing, and still disagree on thousands more.

 

How many NA Championships have 7 boats signed up just before the event? Maybe the J29's?.

 

 

If you want Jboat one design crusier /racer a used 105 is a much better deal and $150k less, which you can use to ship your boat to the NAs , key west, etc (where there will be about 30 boats) and back about 20 times. and you wil have money left over to buy some beer and maybe go to a trade school for a semester or two. ASSHAT!

Your funny.. You have no clue what your talking about again..

I am glad Espo can beat up on the compitetion, What have you done???

 

and oh by the way, it was nice of you to out other SA'ers!!! how bout outing yourself!

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Hey Duffy, STFU already. My guess is that any of those three old bastards (wtf?) would sail circles around you. But we will never know that will we?

 

Now for the record, are you from the Duffy's Bait and Tackle family? Ya little redheaded fuck.

 

yeah, I used to dig sandworms at low tide in Glen Cove and sell them to grandpa.

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Strider needs crew due to last minute cancellation. Chance to trim jib/kite.

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Listening to this kid compare the merits of the 105 and 109 is like listening to my 6 year old discuss why the Bentley Continental is much more car for your money than an Aston Martin Vanquish...

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Listening to this kid compare the merits of the 105 and 109 is like listening to my 6 year old discuss why the Bentley Continental is much more car for your money than an Aston Martin Vanquish...

Well it depends, was your 6 years old talking about the Continental or the Continental GTC. The GTC would be a better comparison but the Vanquish is really really schweet!

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Where in your pointy head is there a little voice that told you i give a shit about wether you or some of the old decrepit shitbags that hang out here like me?

 

Two asshatas can agree on one thing, and still disagree on thousands more.

 

How many NA Championships have 7 boats signed up just before the event? Maybe the J29's?.

 

 

If you want Jboat one design crusier /racer a used 105 is a much better deal and $150k less, which you can use to ship your boat to the NAs , key west, etc (where there will be about 30 boats) and back about 20 times. and you wil have money left over to buy some beer and maybe go to a trade school for a semester or two. ASSHAT!

 

Dude you need to relax. Still havent heard what NAs let alone regattas youve sailed in recently....mabey this one?

 

Edit: And no im not talking about the opti NAs cause those kids could kick just about anyones ass.

 

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Some of my best work really.

Noticed the "sails" as opposed to "race" out of SCYC as well. Everybody knows there's no racing at SCYC.

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Hey, now lay off the Kid, he sails a well respected Hunter 34 out of SCYC. Hell, he was even one of the instructors this past summer!

 

The same one that tried to put up a bow tacked asym at the ALIR start this year eventhough the aparent angle was about 45 degrees. :P

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So I send two emails to the regatta chair (one on Wednesday, one on Thursday) asking to be put in an IRC division and I end up in a PHRF division. WTF?

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Oh and 6 divisions on the East circle and two on the West - that makes a lot of sense.

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Very twisted first race. Wind all over the place and up and down in velocity. We were lucky to salvage a 4th (I think). Nice job Thin Man winning that race. Second race we lead at every mark but in the end I think Espo and the boys corrected over us. From what I can figure Hustler has 4 points and there is a three way tie for 2nd with 6, Tenacious, Thin Man and the J92s, then comes Iris with 7 (I think).

 

Hey, does anyone know how to work the mute button on this thing?

 

Manhasset YC sucks... can't they post results in a timely fashion. Everyone else does.

 

Don't tell me Tenacious is in the hunt? I guess a blind squirrel occassionally finds a nut, but I doubt they'll be able to handle the fame and fortune of being in 2nd place. Hey, I bet that masthead kite helped a lot!

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From memory (addled though it may be)...

 

Hustler 3+1=4

Tenacious 2+5=7

Strategery 5+2=7

Thin Man 1+7=8

Deviation ?+?=9

 

und so weiter.

 

And did I hear correctly that PRO is "thinking about" doing the distance race today? :unsure:

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