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Relax. It is not filling yet. Let me know when it tops 400, that is the time to not be a straggler.

 

OK. Call me stupid. I was so busy in late December and into January that I had not checked the entry numbers nor had I been around SA much lately to be prompted by all the good people here. Thankfully, CYC closed registration temporarily and then reopened. I registered with less than 25 spots left. Whew!

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Thats Triple 000 to you, sir.

 

Glad to see we have some friends...but not many. Does your keel lift too?

 

Hroth

It does actually. Might help us both get a spot!!

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So total entry's are up to 440, 450 seems to be the number that keeps getting thrown around as the cut off. Someone said that there were 70 boats on the waiting list!

 

How many boats out of the 440 entered will back out? 10-15, probably made up of first time racers mostly.

That leaves a few more spots open for entry! Then there are always a few boats were logistics just don't work maybe another 3-6 boats back out?

 

I really wonder if the 2008 Chicago to Mackinac race will have 450 boats start?!

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Good luck, I was asking that question weeks ago. It's not Lucky (Glücklich)...

 

Yeah I noticed Lucky was entered, with the owner of Lucky also listed as crew on this thing...

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Yeah I noticed Lucky was entered, with the owner of Lucky also listed as crew on this thing...

Vincetore crew list is the one from 2006, it's not the final crew list it's just copied. Many boats have their completed crew list marked as received when they are not, it's just easier to click it through right now, many will change.

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Formating will probably suck...but you get the idea....as of the evening of 2/4/08.

 

Design Boat Name Total

Tartan 10 36

Beneteau 36.7 27

J105 23

Beneteau 40.7 13

J109 12

J120 12

Great Lakes 70 10

Farr 395 9

Farr 40 7

Corsair 31 6

Mumm 36 6

J35 5

Nelson Marek 36 5

Corsair F-27 4

S2 10.3 4

Sydney 38 4

Beneteau 42 3

C&C 110 3

C&C 115 3

Dehler 39 3

J130 3

J133 3

Nelson Marek 43 3

New York 36 3

Peterson 34 3

Super Ray 33 3

Tartan 3700 3

Beneteau 10R 2

Beneteau 361 Wing Keel 2

Beneteau 411 2

Beneteau 44.7 2

C&C 39 2

Cal 40 2

Carroll Marine 1200 2

Catalina 320 2

Corsair 31-1D 2

Ericson 39 2

F-25C 2

Farr 49 2

Flying Tiger 10 2

J30 2

Jeanneau 45.2 2

Melges 32 3

Nelson Marek 41 2

Nelson Marek 46 2

Nelson Marek 50 2

One Design 35 2

Sabre 36 2

Sydney 41 2

Tripp 33 2

*** TBD 1

***Evelyn 42 1

***Hunter 1

***Kaufman 46 1

***SSO 1

Alden 52 1

Andrews 68 1

Andrews 70 1

Arcona 460 1

B/C 58 custom 1

Beneteau 38s5 1

Beneteau 42 CC 1

Beneteau 423 Deep Keel 1

Beneteau 42s7 1

Beneteau 42s7 LWshoal 1

Beneteau 440 modified 1

Beneteau First 375 1

Beneteau First 44.7 Betty Jean 1

Beneteau First 44.7 Total 1

Beneteau Oceanis 381 1

Bill Lee 68 canting keel 1

Bounty II 1

Brewer 12.8 1

C&C 121 1

C&C 33 Mk1 1

C&C 332 1

C&C 35 Mk 1 1

C&C 35 Mk III 1

C&C 35 MkI 1

C&C 35-3 1

C&C 372 Deep Keel 1

C&C 382 1

C&C 402 1

C&C 41 1

Cal 39 1

Cape Dory Custom 40 1

Catalina 34 1

Catalina 34 Mk I 1

Catalina 36 MK II 1

Catalina 38 1

Catalina 400 1

Catalina 400 MKII WK 1

Catalina 42 1

Catalina 42 Wing Keel 1

Catalina 470 Wing Keel 1

Catamaran 1

Cheoy Lee 41 1

Concordia 47 1

Corsair 31UC 1

Corsair F-28R 1

Cr 106 1

Cris White 44 1

Crowther 50 1

Custom 47 1

Custom Rogers 46 1

DuBois 50 1

DuFour 44 1

Elan 40 1

Ericson 34 1

Ericson 35 1

Ericson 35 MK II 1

Ericson 36C 1

Evelyn 32 1

Express 34 1

Express 37 1

F-31 Modified 1

F-33 1

F-33R 1

Farr 38 1

Farr 42 1

Farr 44 1

Farr 47 (Concordia 47) 1

Farr ILC 46 1

Farr One Ton 1

Farrier F82R 1

Formula 60 1

Frank 40 1

Frers 41 1

Frers 46 1

Frers 50 1

Gougeon 35 1

Grand Soleil 44 1

Heritage 37 1

Hunter 30T 1

Hunter 355 1

Hunter 355 WK 1

Hunter 375 WK 1

Irwin 43 c/c 1

J122 1

J124 1

J125 1

J130 SD 1

J145 1

J29 IB MH 1

J33 1

J44 1

J46 1

J46 Shoal Draft 1

J92 1

Jeanneau 42 Sun Odyssey DS 1

Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 36.2 1

Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 45 1

JN40 1

Judel-Vrolijk 66 1

Kauf 44 1

Kiwi 35 1

Lager L-40 One Ton 1

Laser 28 1

Lex 34 1

Lightspeed 32 1

LS 10 1

Mariah 27 1

Mariner 36 1

Max Z86 1

Mir 338 1

Moody 54 1

Morgan 36.5 Nelson Marek 1

Morgan 36T 1

Morgan 41 1

Morgan 41 CB 1

Morgan 43 1

Morgan 45 1

Mumm 30 1

Najad 405 1

Nautor's Swan 44 1

Nelson Marek 40 1

Nelson Marek 50 IOR 1

Nelson Marek 52 1

Nelson Marek 70 1

New York 40 1

Newick 50 1

Newport 30 Mk III 1

North American 40 1

Olson 30 1

Olson 34 1

Olson 40 1

Olson 911 1

One Design 48 1

Palmer Johnson 40 1

Pearson 36 1

Pearson 37 1

Pearson Sl 1

Peterson 37 1

Peterson 43 1

PlasTrend 32 1

Reichel-Pugh 66 1

Reichel-Pugh Super 30 1

S&S 50 1

S2 11.0A 1

S2 9.1 1

S2 9.2A 1

Saber 36 1

Sabre 42 1

Schock 41 1

Shock 35 1

Shock 40 1

Shock 55 1

Southern Cross R/C 52 1

Soverel 332 1

Swan 41 1

Swan 53 1

Sydney 36 1

Tartan 31 1

Tartan 34C 1

Tartan 41 1

Tartan 4100 1

Taylor 40 1

Thomas 35 1

Transpac 52 1

Tripp 36 1

Tripp 37 1

Tripp 38 1

Tripp 40 1

Tripp 40 Mk2 1

Tripp 43 1

Tripp 47 1

Vagabond 42 1

X-482 1

Grand Total 440

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Formating will probably suck...but you get the idea....as of the evening of 2/4/08.

 

Design Boat Name Total

Tartan 10 36

Beneteau 36.7 27

J105 23

Beneteau 40.7 13

J109 12

J120 12

Great Lakes 70 10

Farr 395 9

Farr 40 7

Corsair 31 6

Mumm 36 6

J35 5

Nelson Marek 36 5

Corsair F-27 4

S2 10.3 4

Sydney 38 4

Beneteau 42 3

C&C 110 3

C&C 115 3

Dehler 39 3

J130 3

J133 3

Nelson Marek 43 3

New York 36 3

Peterson 34 3

Super Ray 33 3

Tartan 3700 3

Beneteau 10R 2

Beneteau 361 Wing Keel 2

Beneteau 411 2

Beneteau 44.7 2

C&C 39 2

Cal 40 2

Carroll Marine 1200 2

Catalina 320 2

Corsair 31-1D 2

Ericson 39 2

F-25C 2

Farr 49 2

Flying Tiger 10 2

J30 2

Jeanneau 45.2 2

Melges 32 3

Nelson Marek 41 2

Nelson Marek 46 2

Nelson Marek 50 2

One Design 35 2

Sabre 36 2

Sydney 41 2

Tripp 33 2

*** TBD 1

***Evelyn 42 1

***Hunter 1

***Kaufman 46 1

***SSO 1

Alden 52 1

Andrews 68 1

Andrews 70 1

Arcona 460 1

B/C 58 custom 1

Beneteau 38s5 1

Beneteau 42 CC 1

Beneteau 423 Deep Keel 1

Beneteau 42s7 1

Beneteau 42s7 LWshoal 1

Beneteau 440 modified 1

Beneteau First 375 1

Beneteau First 44.7 Betty Jean 1

Beneteau First 44.7 Total 1

Beneteau Oceanis 381 1

Bill Lee 68 canting keel 1

Bounty II 1

Brewer 12.8 1

C&C 121 1

C&C 33 Mk1 1

C&C 332 1

C&C 35 Mk 1 1

C&C 35 Mk III 1

C&C 35 MkI 1

C&C 35-3 1

C&C 372 Deep Keel 1

C&C 382 1

C&C 402 1

C&C 41 1

Cal 39 1

Cape Dory Custom 40 1

Catalina 34 1

Catalina 34 Mk I 1

Catalina 36 MK II 1

Catalina 38 1

Catalina 400 1

Catalina 400 MKII WK 1

Catalina 42 1

Catalina 42 Wing Keel 1

Catalina 470 Wing Keel 1

Catamaran 1

Cheoy Lee 41 1

Concordia 47 1

Corsair 31UC 1

Corsair F-28R 1

Cr 106 1

Cris White 44 1

Crowther 50 1

Custom 47 1

Custom Rogers 46 1

DuBois 50 1

DuFour 44 1

Elan 40 1

Ericson 34 1

Ericson 35 1

Ericson 35 MK II 1

Ericson 36C 1

Evelyn 32 1

Express 34 1

Express 37 1

F-31 Modified 1

F-33 1

F-33R 1

Farr 38 1

Farr 42 1

Farr 44 1

Farr 47 (Concordia 47) 1

Farr ILC 46 1

Farr One Ton 1

Farrier F82R 1

Formula 60 1

Frank 40 1

Frers 41 1

Frers 46 1

Frers 50 1

Gougeon 35 1

Grand Soleil 44 1

Heritage 37 1

Hunter 30T 1

Hunter 355 1

Hunter 355 WK 1

Hunter 375 WK 1

Irwin 43 c/c 1

J122 1

J124 1

J125 1

J130 SD 1

J145 1

J29 IB MH 1

J33 1

J44 1

J46 1

J46 Shoal Draft 1

J92 1

Jeanneau 42 Sun Odyssey DS 1

Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 36.2 1

Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 45 1

JN40 1

Judel-Vrolijk 66 1

Kauf 44 1

Kiwi 35 1

Lager L-40 One Ton 1

Laser 28 1

Lex 34 1

Lightspeed 32 1

LS 10 1

Mariah 27 1

Mariner 36 1

Max Z86 1

Mir 338 1

Moody 54 1

Morgan 36.5 Nelson Marek 1

Morgan 36T 1

Morgan 41 1

Morgan 41 CB 1

Morgan 43 1

Morgan 45 1

Mumm 30 1

Najad 405 1

Nautor's Swan 44 1

Nelson Marek 40 1

Nelson Marek 50 IOR 1

Nelson Marek 52 1

Nelson Marek 70 1

New York 40 1

Newick 50 1

Newport 30 Mk III 1

North American 40 1

Olson 30 1

Olson 34 1

Olson 40 1

Olson 911 1

One Design 48 1

Palmer Johnson 40 1

Pearson 36 1

Pearson 37 1

Pearson Sl 1

Peterson 37 1

Peterson 43 1

PlasTrend 32 1

Reichel-Pugh 66 1

Reichel-Pugh Super 30 1

S&S 50 1

S2 11.0A 1

S2 9.1 1

S2 9.2A 1

Saber 36 1

Sabre 42 1

Schock 41 1

Shock 35 1

Shock 40 1

Shock 55 1

Southern Cross R/C 52 1

Soverel 332 1

Swan 41 1

Swan 53 1

Sydney 36 1

Tartan 31 1

Tartan 34C 1

Tartan 41 1

Tartan 4100 1

Taylor 40 1

Thomas 35 1

Transpac 52 1

Tripp 36 1

Tripp 37 1

Tripp 38 1

Tripp 40 1

Tripp 40 Mk2 1

Tripp 43 1

Tripp 47 1

Vagabond 42 1

X-482 1

Grand Total 440

 

 

thats alot of boats

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From the rumor mill...there are some 'dummy' registrants in case any 'noteworthy' boats want to enter later.

 

Don't kill me. Just something I heard somewhere.

 

Hroth

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"Steve Fossett on Stars and Stripes set the multihull record of 18 hours, 50 minutes, and 32 seconds in 1998." From the CYC website.

 

True, but Fossett is not likely to be in the race this year!

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From the rumor mill...there are some 'dummy' registrants in case any 'noteworthy' boats want to enter later.

 

Don't kill me. Just something I heard somewhere.

 

Hroth

Wouldn't surprise me in the least...that and the fact that some of the crew lists are seriously due for revision

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From the rumor mill...there are some 'dummy' registrants in case any 'noteworthy' boats want to enter later.

 

Don't kill me. Just something I heard somewhere.

 

Hroth

 

There are NO dummy entries....although we are dropping yours for spreading rumors.

 

rew

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I'm going to be one of the boats trying to make the entry deadline. Would kinda suck getting all the ducks in a row to do this race from SoCal and get canned during the entry process. Guess we can always do Coastal Cup. :P

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There are NO dummy entries....although we are dropping yours for spreading rumors.

 

rew

Touche.

 

Announcement: No more rumor spreading on Sailing Anarchy!

 

Hroth

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Oh shit in about 4 mins the Chicago Yacht Club race to Mackinac site is going to crash hard!

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Alright all you Chicago Mac sailors, come on over and do the BYC Mac!

 

Yes, the transport sucks if you have to go straight through, but make it happen!

 

Maybe a 4th of July cruise with your family? Maybe a 4th of July cruise for one or your crew's family who has more time than you?

 

C'mon over, we'll show you BYC's hospitality, and would love to have you. Use it as a warm-up for the big race, or just enjoy the Longest Continually Run Freshwater Race in the World.

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Alright all you Chicago Mac sailors, come on over and do the BYC Mac!

 

Yes, the transport sucks if you have to go straight through, but make it happen!

 

Maybe a 4th of July cruise with your family? Maybe a 4th of July cruise for one or your crew's family who has more time than you?

 

C'mon over, we'll show you BYC's hospitality, and would love to have you. Use it as a warm-up for the big race, or just enjoy the Longest Continually Run Freshwater Race in the World.

 

 

I'm Sold...See you there!

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Genuine Risk is IN

 

Nautilus, ex-Goblin, ex-Deep Powder is IN with some talent.

 

 

GR draws 19 feet, that will make things interesting indeed.

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There are NO dummy entries....although we are dropping yours for spreading rumors.

 

rew

 

Really? This sure looks like a dummy entry being reserved for one of the sponsors:

 

 

Boat Name Sail Number Owner(s)/Charterer(s) City / State Club Design LOA

Guaranteed Period USA 173 Lands' End Business Outfitters Madison, Wisconsin Chicago Yacht Club *** TBD 1

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When will the Mac Safety Regs be posted?

The 2007 regs are in the Archives section. Do you think they will change much?

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The 2007 regs are in the Archives section. Do you think they will change much?

 

Here is the link for the 2007 race:

 

http://www.chicagoyachtclub.org/racetomack...MSRMonohull.pdf

 

I am aware of only 2 substantive changes from 2007 to 2008:

1) Delete orange smoke flares

2) Delete chart plotting equipment

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Here is the link for the 2007 race:

 

http://www.chicagoyachtclub.org/racetomack...MSRMonohull.pdf

 

I am aware of only 2 substantive changes from 2007 to 2008:

1) Delete orange smoke flares

2) Delete chart plotting equipment

 

I thought they also went with the non-SOLAS requirement on the flares to be consistent with the BYC Mac regs...

 

Who knows... I look forward to the 08 release of the information.

 

DG

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Really? This sure looks like a dummy entry being reserved for one of the sponsors:

 

 

Boat Name Sail Number Owner(s)/Charterer(s) City / State Club Design LOA

Guaranteed Period USA 173 Lands' End Business Outfitters Madison, Wisconsin Chicago Yacht Club *** TBD 1

And how about this:

 

***TBA / Charter package USA ***000 ***TBA ..... Charter partners.... Lk. Leelanau, Michigan Grand Traverse Yacht Club ***TBA 68

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I am aware of only 2 substantive changes from 2007 to 2008:

 

2) Delete chart plotting equipment

This makes no sense to me. If you are still going to require a few paper charts (which is a no-brainer, IMNSHO), then why on earth not make sure that the dumbasses who think their GPS/electronics will never pack up have the proper tools to use them? It's not like a pair of dividers, parallel rules, protractor, etc. weigh anything.

 

I, for one, as the the erstwhile naviguesser for 40048, will "ignore" this change!

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***TBA / Charter package USA ***000 ***TBA .....Charter partners....Lk. Leelanau, Michigan Grand Traverse Yacht Club ***TBA 68

 

This is interesting...mystery boat AND mystery people B)

 

and I just noticed that it was already posted...oh well

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That is actually Mari Cha IV. I've heard that Dickie Greenleaf has chartered her for a run at the record.

Nah... It's actually Legacy. During the day of cancelled races in Key West, I got bored, borrowed a RIB, and pulled her off the beach. It was a challenge car topping a Perini Navi half way acrosss the country, but we'll have her cleaned up in time for the Mac.

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Here is the link for the 2007 race:

 

http://www.chicagoyachtclub.org/racetomack...MSRMonohull.pdf

 

I am aware of only 2 substantive changes from 2007 to 2008:

1) Delete orange smoke flares

2) Delete chart plotting equipment

 

How am I supposed to circle the position on the chart where the boat sank and they found us dead floating next to our EPIRB in our 33 lb buoyancy fanny packs we couldn't get over our heads in the waves with no day signals for the chopper?

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How am I supposed to circle the position on the chart where the boat sank and they found us dead floating next to our EPIRB in our 33 lb buoyancy fanny packs we couldn't get over our heads in the waves with no day signals for the chopper?

 

Does "chart plotting equipment" refer to electronic plotters?

 

Getting rid of dividers and rulers and such just sounds completely stupid. Of course this is also the club that doesn't mandate rafts...

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How am I supposed to circle the position on the chart where the boat sank and they found us dead floating next to our EPIRB in our 33 lb buoyancy fanny packs we couldn't get over our heads in the waves with no day signals for the chopper?

 

You bring up some good points...how is this for a possible solution:

 

1. Extract bottle of Mt Gay rum from your first aid kit.

2. Set rum bottle on the chart with the bottle centered on position of interest. (ok to remove cap & take a swig or two to lower liquid volume so when you peer through the opening you have a better view of the chart below)

3. Draw a circle around the base of said rum bottle.

4. Removed cockpit accessible knife from sheathing.

5. Slit wrist of most expendable crew member for instant red die marker.

;)

 

I’m still bringing my chart plotting equipment because there is no rule that says you can’t have them onboard. I believe BYC removed the chart plotting rule from their regs last year and CYC & BYC have tried to merge their regs where possible. The Chart Plotting rule was unenforceable because a ruler, pencil & string could be used to satisfy the rule.

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Does "chart plotting equipment" refer to electronic plotters?

 

Getting rid of dividers and rulers and such just sounds completely stupid. Of course this is also the club that doesn't mandate rafts...

 

Dividers, parallel rulers, etc. are NOT necessary. They make life more efficient than without, but they are easily substituted. Shit, JoeO could probably build a small reactor using nothing but the battery from an EPIRB and a Heatermeal.

 

This is also the club that has 450 entries to what, BYCs 250...maybe?

 

Say all you want, but participation should be one of objectives and the annual debate over the more prestigious race has been laid to rest for some years to come. (I love both)

 

Disclaimer, I will be on a boat that never needed a raft and has always carried a GPIRB.

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Dividers, parallel rulers, etc. are NOT necessary. They make life more efficient than without, but they are easily substituted. Shit, JoeO could probably build a small reactor using nothing but the battery from an EPIRB and a Heatermeal.

 

This is also the club that has 450 entries to what, BYCs 250...maybe?

 

Say all you want, but participation should be one of objectives and the annual debate over the more prestigious race has been laid to rest for some years to come. (I love both)

 

Disclaimer, I will be on a boat that never needed a raft and has always carried a GPIRB.

 

Just doesn't sound right to me. Also, hard to compare entries when Lake Michigan has so many more boats up and down the shoreline. In Lake Huron, you have BFE Ontario and BFE Michigan, aside from a couple Bay City, Alpena, Tawas boats.

 

This is also your 100th race, which we all know is inflating your entries to such a fantastic number. And having 450 boats, I should be able to find a decent ride, yes? I know how to use dividers and parallel rules, not that that counts for anything.

 

Nonetheless, best of luck to everyone racing, and big congrats to CYC for reaching such a milestone. Looks like they'll have a race for the record books.

 

And what boats never needed a raft?

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This is also your 100th race, which we all know is inflating your entries to such a fantastic number.

 

And what boats never needed a raft?

 

I'm from Detroit, Multihulls.

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Disclaimer, I will be on a boat that never needed a raft and has always carried a GPIRB.

Take it back you nutter.

 

You are tempting fate worse than your non-flipping boat banning friend. And you know what happened to him. ;)

 

Karma sucks. Stop now. :P

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Dividers, parallel rulers, etc. are NOT necessary. They make life more efficient than without, but they are easily substituted. Shit, JoeO could probably build a small reactor using nothing but the battery from an EPIRB and a Heatermeal.

You should have seen Shife making do with some pencils. It was the best navigating he's ever done.

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I'm from Detroit, Multihulls.

 

My apologies then. Being from Detroit AND sailing multihulls is the ULTIMATE tragedy.

 

Cheers!

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My apologies then. Being from Detroit AND sailing multihulls is the ULTIMATE tragedy.

 

Cheers!

 

Ouch! And I thought they were a step up from the old IOR boats!

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Ouch! And I thought they were a step up from the old IOR boats!

 

C'mon dude. You KNOW that death-rolling lead pigs are the only vessels that real men sail.

 

You're one of Cap's buddies, right? Hope to meet you on the Island this year. Hope even more that I remember it.

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Dividers, parallel rulers, etc. are NOT necessary. They make life more efficient than without, but they are easily substituted. Shit, JoeO could probably build a small reactor using nothing but the battery from an EPIRB and a Heatermeal.

 

This is also the club that has 450 entries to what, BYCs 250...maybe?

 

Say all you want, but participation should be one of objectives and the annual debate over the more prestigious race has been laid to rest for some years to come. (I love both)

 

Disclaimer, I will be on a boat that never needed a raft and has always carried a GPIRB.

 

The safety regs have little to do with participation. Chicago has a better economy and higher interest in sailing. They also have a better natural course, although the 333 mile thing is a little deceiving. Bayview did a good thing by putting everyone on the same course.

 

Both clubs have done a good job in recent years making the safety regs simpler and easier to be compliant. (SOLAS hand flares and 33 lb inflatable life jackets not included, one would think USCG approval is good enough.)

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That is actually Mari Cha IV. I've heard that Dickie Greenleaf has chartered her for a run at the record.

 

Hahahahahahahahahaha!

 

When they told me that I would have to bring my own phonebooks to stand on, I rescinded my offer.

 

It's a total low-budget program.

 

DG

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The safety regs have little to do with participation. Chicago has a better economy and higher interest in sailing. They also have a better natural course, although the 333 mile thing is a little deceiving. Bayview did a good thing by putting everyone on the same course.

 

Very true, but it still doesn't explain why some of the out of town boats that come in for the Chi Town Mac don't do the BYC Mac. That is not intended as a slam on Bayview, just curious. Not to hijack, but I would still like to see the Super Mac come back on a regular basis. Every three years maybe?

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The safety regs have little to do with participation. Chicago has a better economy and higher interest in sailing. They also have a better natural course, although the 333 mile thing is a little deceiving. Bayview did a good thing by putting everyone on the same course.

Agreed, what proper sailing club quotes their course length in statute miles. Even if it does make for better PR.

 

SuperMac is a pretty serious race, I don't care which way you slice it. Even the 70's and multis would need a real watch system for that duration, which IMHO is what really defines the kind of race you're doing.

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Agreed, what proper sailing club quotes their course length in statute miles. Even if it does make for better PR.

 

SuperMac is a pretty serious race, I don't care which way you slice it. Even the 70's and multis would need a real watch system for that duration, which IMHO is what really defines the kind of race you're doing.

How about SuperMac n' Back? 1000+ miles of freshwater lunacy...

 

;)

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How about SuperMac n' Back? 1000+ miles of freshwater lunacy...

 

;)

 

Solo! I am not kidding, there are some idiots thinking about it.

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How about SuperMac n' Back? 1000+ miles of freshwater lunacy...

 

;)

That's a long time for most Great Lakes sailors I know to not step foot in a bar...

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Solo! I am not kidding, there are some idiots thinking about it.

 

Believe me, I know. I like those idiots very much.

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How about SuperMac n' Back? 1000+ miles of freshwater lunacy...

 

;)

 

 

If it makes it sound more grandiose , why the hell knot....

 

535.911552 kilometers

17582.4 chain

535911552 millimeters

 

"Hello ladies, would you like to see my 7500 mil member? I light years its 2.013629597E-017..."

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Solo! I am not kidding, there are some idiots thinking about it.

 

There was some discussion among the Great Lakes Singlehanded Sailing Society of a Chicago to Buffalo solo race too. Don't know if anything's coming of that.

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For me the ultimate frustration would be making 2 passes of the Island without a stop at the Pony :ph34r:

a minimum 5hr Pony stop could be written into the race instructions.....

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If it makes it sound more grandiose , why the hell knot....

 

535.911552 kilometers

17582.4 chain

535911552 millimeters

 

"Hello ladies, would you like to see my 7500 mil member? I light years its 2.013629597E-017..."

How many miles exactly would Chi-Town to PH to Chi-Town be? NM, not lubber's miles...

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Solo! I am not kidding, there are some idiots thinking about it.

 

I'm an idiot and I'm not thinking about it......

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I'm an idiot and I'm not thinking about it......

Can I charter your boat?

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How many miles exactly would Chi-Town to PH to Chi-Town be? NM, not lubber's miles...

Chicago-Mac is 289 NM and PH-Mac is 219, so a little more than 1000

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SuperMac is a pretty serious race, I don't care which way you slice it. Even the 70's and multis would need a real watch system for that duration, which IMHO is what really defines the kind of race you're doing.

ok, i'll bite. what do you consider a 'real' watch system? and what defines the kind of racing you do?

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ok, i'll bite. what do you consider a 'real' watch system? and what defines the kind of racing you do?

What I'm referring to here is the difference between a P-P race that lasts under a day or so vs those that last a couple days or more. One you can do as a sprint - couple PB & J sandwiches, whole crew working the boat & hiking the rail nonstop. Too much more than that and you start needing to put together some kind of reasonable rotation & sleep schedule, give some priority to caring for the carbon units & making time to keep things dry & clean, things of that sort.

 

A track analogy - under 24 hours would be like a 400 m or less sprint. 18-48 hours is probably more like an 800m mid-distance up to a mile, depending on how superman you & the crew are. Over 48 hours you're getting into the 2 mile, 10k, marathon long distance kind of racing that typically takes pacing.

 

So it's not just the course length that defines the type of race, it's about the boat you apply. A sprint for a 70 might be a long distance race to a 27 footer.

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Agreed, what proper sailing club quotes their course length in statute miles. Even if it does make for better PR.

 

SuperMac is a pretty serious race, I don't care which way you slice it. Even the 70's and multis would need a real watch system for that duration, which IMHO is what really defines the kind of race you're doing.

 

I did the "Super Mac" in 2000. Around Southampton, cross the line in Mackinac going upwind in 25 knots and straits chop, and one to Chicago. Passing by the Island once was enough for me for a while.

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Alright all you Chicago Mac sailors, come on over and do the BYC Mac!

 

Yes, the transport sucks if you have to go straight through, but make it happen!

 

Maybe a 4th of July cruise with your family? Maybe a 4th of July cruise for one or your crew's family who has more time than you?

 

C'mon over, we'll show you BYC's hospitality, and would love to have you. Use it as a warm-up for the big race, or just enjoy the Longest Continually Run Freshwater Race in the World.

Hell yes! Also discounted race entry fees and free dockage at Bayview for out of town IOR boats doing Dinosaur Cup and BYC Mac.

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never mind:

 

Sail Number 43996PHRF Rating 9MAC Rating AP 0.974MAC Rating Off Wind 0.961

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Title - What I Did on My Summer Mackinac Race Vacation

 

On the first day of my Summer Mac vacation, I woke up. then I went topside, to sail the boat. Then I dreamt about getting drunk on the Island.

On the second day of my Summer Mac vacation, I woke up. Then I went topside, to sail the boat. Then I dreamt about getting drunk on the Island.

On the third a day of my Mac summer vacation. I got to the island, and got drunk.

 

Fin

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Title - What I Did on My Summer Mackinac Race Vacation

 

On the first day of my Summer Mac vacation, I woke up. then I went topside, to sail the boat. Then I dreamt about getting drunk on the Island.

On the second day of my Summer Mac vacation, I woke up. Then I went topside, to sail the boat. Then I dreamt about getting drunk on the Island.

On the third a day of my Mac summer vacation. I got to the island, and got drunk.

 

Fin

What I learned from this essay is if blubberboy had actually sailed the boat instead of dreaming about getting drunk on the island, he might have gotten there in two, instead of three days.

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What I Did On My Summer Vacation

 

"It was a 'Dark & Stormy' night....... I don't remember much after that. The End"

Someone should ask JoeO to see his essay.

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The 100th Chicago Auto Show & the 100th Race to Mackinac.

 

Coincidence? I don't think so.

 

Thinking more of a Conspiracy.

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Thinking more of a Conspiracy.

 

I went Wednesday, media day. very nice show indeed. Ran into another Chi-town sailor; "Hey, is Sailing Anarchy covering the Auto Show now?' Is what I hear from behind. We ended up sending in quite the sailing contingency to the House Of Blues for the 'Stars, Cars, and Bars' party. Smash Mouth was on Stage, free top shelf drinks for about four hours. What a night.

 

Oh yeah, 100 Auto Shows, conspiracy fo shizzle...

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